Re: want pinning with examples to prevent unwanted package(s) from being installed

2017-08-30 Thread Dejan Jocic
On 31-08-17, Felix Miata wrote: > Over an hour I've been searching in vain, apparently using broken Google-fu, > for > something using examples to explain how to prevent unwanted package(s) from > being installed via pinning when apt-mark's hold is being disregarded. Anyone > familiar with an URL

want pinning with examples to prevent unwanted package(s) from being installed

2017-08-30 Thread Felix Miata
Over an hour I've been searching in vain, apparently using broken Google-fu, for something using examples to explain how to prevent unwanted package(s) from being installed via pinning when apt-mark's hold is being disregarded. Anyone familiar with an URL that would do this? In openSUSE, it's a si

Re: Weird shell script behavior in a cron job

2017-08-30 Thread Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
James H. H. Lampert: Could it be that |cron| is running it an entirely different shell, that doesn't understand the |if| statement? Despite what others have said, the answer to this question is no. Whilst you /are/ running two different shells, the problem is not the |if| statement. Both o

Re: Encrypted RAID1 for storage with Debian Stretch

2017-08-30 Thread David Christensen
On 08/30/17 04:28, commentsab...@riseup.net wrote: ... Here is a picture of what I'm trying to achieve: https://imgur.com/a/DAM8D (the "Today" column). I am trying to build a home backup system. The system (Debian Stretch) will be on a SSD. For the time being, I only have one pair of HDDs (the "

Re: How to Keep Track of Changes to the System

2017-08-30 Thread ray
On Sunday, August 27, 2017 at 9:00:05 AM UTC-5, rhkr...@gmail.com wrote: ...snip... Hi RHKR, Thank you. This is an interesting way to store the broken system. It will be like a junk yard that I can copy out of. Partitioning will be a challenge. Currently, this is laptop runs LVM. I have

Selecting text

2017-08-30 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Hi, I usually select pieces of text on the screen running X with the mouse by pointing to it and then dragging to where the end is. The piece will turn blue. Then cntrl+c will copy the piece to the clipboard and cntrl+v will paste it. I now have a strange situation that on one system running

Re: How to Keep Track of Changes to the System

2017-08-30 Thread ray
On Sunday, August 27, 2017 at 6:50:06 AM UTC-5, hdv@gmail wrote: > On 2017-08-26 05:14, ray wrote: > > I would like to find a way to keep track of changes I make to my system. > > ...snip > Hi Ray, > > I just returned from a short holiday, so I am a bit late to the party, but... > if > you don'

Re: Encrypted RAID1 for storage with Debian Jessie

2017-08-30 Thread commentsabout
(there was a problem with my subscription to the list, I am not sure that my previous mail went through, copy/pasting it again just in case - sorry for the spam if you received it twice) Hello, On 2017-06-07 06:11, Andy Smith wrote: > On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 11:41:30PM +, commentsab...@riseup

Re: I just installed "tomcat8" and "tomcat8-admin" on a Debian 8.9 box, via an apt-get

2017-08-30 Thread Nicholas Geovanis
On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 5:51 PM, James H. H. Lampert < jam...@touchtonecorp.com> wrote: > I want to put Tomcat 8.5 on the box I've spent the past week configuring. > What my apt-get got me was Tomcat 8.0.14. > Can I get Tomcat 8.5 via an apt-get? If so, how? > The apt-cache command says that the

I just installed "tomcat8" and "tomcat8-admin" on a Debian 8.9 box, via an apt-get

2017-08-30 Thread James H. H. Lampert
I want to put Tomcat 8.5 on the box I've spent the past week configuring. What my apt-get got me was Tomcat 8.0.14. Can I get Tomcat 8.5 via an apt-get? If so, how? If not, what's the easiest way to get Tomcat 8.5 up and running as a service from an Apache download? -- JHHL

Re: One-line password generator

2017-08-30 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Brian wrote: > the crackers would likely not be in possession of a leaked password > (Uld4dFpYSkdkV1J3ZFdOclpYSUsK) but of a hash of it. That's why i did not claim to be able to decipher such things but rather mentioned that the name is celebrity enough to be quickly enumerated. The next two

Re: Atril configuration saving

2017-08-30 Thread Mario Castelán Castro
On 30/08/17 06:27, Haines Brown wrote: > I find the atril pdf viewer to be the most satisfactory choice for my > needs. However, a problem is that it does not save my configuration. Hello. What do you find good about Atril as compared to Evince (if you have used the later)? It is not a rhetorica

How to install extra TeX fonts without crud?

2017-08-30 Thread Mario Castelán Castro
Hello. I want to install some fonts to use in LaTeX that seem to be available only in the “texive-fonts-extra” package. The problem, is that “texive-fonts-extra” depends on a lot of fonts packages that I do not want. Is there a way to install only the TeX fonts contained in “texive-fonts-extra” wi

Re: Computer friendly blood pressure?

2017-08-30 Thread Wilko Fokken
On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 07:44:07AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > For sometime I've been causally looking for a blood pressure cuff with > communication capability that does NOT require a "smart" phone [be > it Apple or Android]. > > A recent hospital stay prompts me to more actively look. > > I

Re: Weird shell script behavior in a cron job

2017-08-30 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 09:32:37PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > > #! > > A curious shebang. > > Why would the behavior be any different? Could it be that cron is running it > > an entirely different shell, that doesn't understand the "if" statement? > > Presumably your script runs via /bin/bash in int

Re: Weird shell script behavior in a cron job

2017-08-30 Thread David Wright
On Wed 30 Aug 2017 at 11:07:36 (-0700), James H. H. Lampert wrote: > Can somebody explain this: > > My backup script WILL detect that ExternalHD is not mounted, and > attempt to mount it, if I run it manually. > > But it WON'T do that if it runs in a cron job. > > I've isolated the relevant code

Re: Weird shell script behavior in a cron job

2017-08-30 Thread James H. H. Lampert
A few minutes ago, with respect to my backup script attempting to mount ExternalHD if run from a command line, but not from cron, I wrote: Why would the behavior be any different? Could it be that cron is running it an entirely different shell, that doesn't understand the "if" statement? That w

Re: Weird shell script behavior in a cron job

2017-08-30 Thread Reco
Hi. On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 11:07:36AM -0700, James H. H. Lampert wrote: > Can somebody explain this: > > My backup script WILL detect that ExternalHD is not mounted, and attempt to > mount it, if I run it manually. > > But it WON'T do that if it runs in a cron job. > > I've isolated th

Re: Atril configuration saving

2017-08-30 Thread Tixy
On Wed, 2017-08-30 at 07:27 -0400, Haines Brown wrote: > I find the atril pdf viewer to be the most satisfactory choice for my > needs. However, a problem is that it does not save my configuration. > > More specifically, I go to its View menu and set my desired > configuration. Then I go to Edit,

Weird shell script behavior in a cron job

2017-08-30 Thread James H. H. Lampert
Can somebody explain this: My backup script WILL detect that ExternalHD is not mounted, and attempt to mount it, if I run it manually. But it WON'T do that if it runs in a cron job. I've isolated the relevant code into its own script, added debugging output, and set it up to run every minute

Re: One-line password generator

2017-08-30 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 30 August 2017 10:25:00 Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > i wrote: > > > The reason why this is still not fully reflected by the man page > > > is not yet uncovered. > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > Maybe a wee bit of security by obscurity? There is that I think in > > everyones thinking on

Re: One-line password generator

2017-08-30 Thread Brian
On Wed 30 Aug 2017 at 15:47:35 +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > Well, that easy to remember method just went down in flames. Sigh... > > That's the first diffuse but significant wisdom we found in this thread: > > If you can memorize it without the help of publicly knowabl

Re: Required help on local Debain mirror

2017-08-30 Thread David Wright
On Wed 30 Aug 2017 at 17:27:31 (+0200), Christian Seiler wrote: > Hi there, > > Am 2017-08-29 11:57, schrieb Kala Techies: > >I am using (Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.10 (squeeze)) in my environment and I > >want to update all systems using one local mirror. > > I don't think it's a good idea to setup a

Re: One-line password generator

2017-08-30 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 30 August 2017 10:07:09 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 09:57:34AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Wednesday 30 August 2017 09:47:35 Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > > The reason why this is still not fully reflected by the man page > > > is not yet uncovered. > > > > Maybe

Re: Inconsistent predictable interface names

2017-08-30 Thread David Wright
On Wed 30 Aug 2017 at 11:01:07 (-0400), Henning Follmann wrote: > On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 04:12:16PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > Hi. > > > > On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 08:39:44AM -0400, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > > > On 8/29/17, Reco wrote: > > > > > > > [...] > > > I left everything in there in cas

Re: On another (but related) note: Zip files

2017-08-30 Thread Mario Castelán Castro
On 30/08/17 05:14, Darac Marjal wrote: > So, because gzip has such a market share in the Linux world, it makes > sense for it to be included in the debian base install (in fact, apt and > various utilities rely on it, so it needs to be there). Zip files, > though, are much less common in the Linux

Re: Required help on local Debain mirror

2017-08-30 Thread Christian Seiler
Hi there, Am 2017-08-29 11:57, schrieb Kala Techies: I am using (Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.10 (squeeze)) in my environment and I want to update all systems using one local mirror. I don't think it's a good idea to setup a real local mirror, as that means you'll download the entire archive, which is

Re: Atril configuration saving

2017-08-30 Thread Phil Dobbin
On 30/08/17 12:27, Haines Brown wrote: > I find the atril pdf viewer to be the most satisfactory choice for my > needs. However, a problem is that it does not save my configuration. > > More specifically, I go to its View menu and set my desired > configuration. Then I go to Edit, Save Current Se

Re: Required help on local Debain mirror

2017-08-30 Thread Dan Ritter
On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 03:27:12PM +0530, Kala Techies wrote: > I am new to Debian and I want some help on Local Debain Mirror. > > > > I am using (Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.10 (squeeze)) in my environment and I want > to update all systems using one local mirror. > > I tried to configure local mirr

Re: Inconsistent predictable interface names

2017-08-30 Thread Henning Follmann
On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 04:12:16PM +0300, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 08:39:44AM -0400, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > > On 8/29/17, Reco wrote: > > > > [...] > > I left everything in there in case somehow it already says "yes or > > no". Is it possible that's previously decl

Re: One-line password generator

2017-08-30 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > If you can memorize it without the help of publicly knowable details of > > your life, then it's too easy to enumerate with nowadays' hardware. Curt wrote: > He should've salted it a little. Sure. I also did not "crack" it by enumeration but by base64 -d after recognizing the ty

Re: One-line password generator

2017-08-30 Thread Curt
On 2017-08-30, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Gene Heskett wrote: >> Well, that easy to remember method just went down in flames. Sigh... > > That's the first diffuse but significant wisdom we found in this thread: > > If you can memorize it without the help of publicly knowable details of > you

Re: One-line password generator

2017-08-30 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > The reason why this is still not fully reflected by the man page is > > not yet uncovered. Gene Heskett wrote: > Maybe a wee bit of security by obscurity? There is that I think in > everyones thinking on this subject. They don't want to price the farm > so cheap that it will

Re: One-line password generator

2017-08-30 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 09:57:34AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 30 August 2017 09:47:35 Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > The reason why this is still not fully reflected by the man page is > > not yet uncovered. > > Maybe a wee bit of security by obscurity? Or you're not reading the current

Re: One-line password generator

2017-08-30 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 30 August 2017 09:47:35 Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > Well, that easy to remember method just went down in flames. > > Sigh... > > That's the first diffuse but significant wisdom we found in this > thread: > > If you can memorize it without the help of publi

Re: One-line password generator

2017-08-30 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Gene Heskett wrote: > Well, that easy to remember method just went down in flames. Sigh... That's the first diffuse but significant wisdom we found in this thread: If you can memorize it without the help of publicly knowable details of your life, then it's too easy to enumerate with nowaday

Re: lp printing doesn't work

2017-08-30 Thread Curt
On 2017-08-30, Brian wrote: >> >> Vary confused. > > That makes two of us. > > Try setting a per-user default queue, which overrides the system-level > setting in /etc/cups/lpoptions. The per-user default is stored in > ~/.cups/lpoptions with 'lpoptions -d'. There is also a PRINTER variable > (se

Re: One-line password generator

2017-08-30 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 30 August 2017 09:09:49 Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > > I hereby challenge this group to crack this passwd: > > Uld4dFpYSkdkV1J3ZFdOclpYSUsK > > Without the claim to be able to do this again: > > By enumerating the name "Elmer Fudpucker" (obviously known to the > internet) and apply

Re: Inconsistent predictable interface names

2017-08-30 Thread Reco
Hi. On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 08:39:44AM -0400, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > On 8/29/17, Reco wrote: > > > > On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 01:04:06PM -0400, Henning Follmann wrote: > >> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 07:45:41PM +0300, Reco wrote: > >> > > >> > On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 11:01:35AM -0400, Henn

Re: One-line password generator

2017-08-30 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, > I hereby challenge this group to crack this passwd: > Uld4dFpYSkdkV1J3ZFdOclpYSUsK Without the claim to be able to do this again: By enumerating the name "Elmer Fudpucker" (obviously known to the internet) and applying base64 twice: $ echo "ElmerFudpucker" | base64 | base64 Uld4dFpYSk

Re: One-line password generator

2017-08-30 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 30 August 2017 08:11:05 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 11:47:24AM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > They don't. You ought not use /dev/urandom for key generation, use > > /dev/random instead. > > The Linux man page disagrees with you. From Debian 9 urandom(4): > >

Re: Inconsistent predictable interface names

2017-08-30 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 8/29/17, Reco wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 01:04:06PM -0400, Henning Follmann wrote: >> On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 07:45:41PM +0300, Reco wrote: >> > >> > On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 11:01:35AM -0400, Henning Follmann wrote: >> > > Hello, >> > > I am experiencing an odd issue with a new install

Re: On another (but related) note: Zip files

2017-08-30 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 11:14:59AM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: > I think it's down to the Freeness of the format. When PKZip was first > released, it was shareware (meaning that the binary is provided free of > charge, but there would be a "nag" message telling you to buy the product). > GZip has al

Re: lp printing doesn't work

2017-08-30 Thread Brian
On Tue 29 Aug 2017 at 14:14:52 -0700, Gary Roach wrote: > On 08/29/2017 06:02 AM, Brian wrote: > >On Sun 27 Aug 2017 at 17:19:51 -0700, Gary Roach wrote: [Snip] > >>Anyone have an idea what's causing this. > > > >Not a clue! I do not experience it myself. What does 'lpstat -t' give? > >Does 'lp

Re: Inconsistent predictable interface names

2017-08-30 Thread Henning Follmann
On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 08:29:05PM +0300, Reco wrote: [...] > Long story short - you've found a udev bug. > So should I file a bugreport? Against the debian package or upstream? > A good thing is - it has as easy workaround as creating a .link file > like this: > > [Match] > MACAddress=d8:a

Re: One-line password generator

2017-08-30 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 11:47:24AM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > They don't. You ought not use /dev/urandom for key generation, use > /dev/random instead. The Linux man page disagrees with you. From Debian 9 urandom(4): The /dev/random device is a legacy interface which dates back to a

Atril configuration saving

2017-08-30 Thread Haines Brown
I find the atril pdf viewer to be the most satisfactory choice for my needs. However, a problem is that it does not save my configuration. More specifically, I go to its View menu and set my desired configuration. Then I go to Edit, Save Current Settings as Default. It has no effect, and atril op

Re: Encrypted RAID1 for storage with Debian Stretch

2017-08-30 Thread commentsabout
Hello, On 2017-06-07 06:11, Andy Smith wrote: > On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 11:41:30PM +, commentsab...@riseup.net wrote: >> From there on, how should I proceed ? > > What is your goal? Exactly what setup do you have now? > > You are not making it easy for people to help you as your email does >

RE: dhcp restart with bad config

2017-08-30 Thread Bonno Bloksma
Hello Liam and list, >> Today I had a small (big?) problem with the DHCP server. >> When I make any changes I allways do a >> # service isc-dhcp-server >> restart to test the new config. In the past when there was an error in >> the config the service would keep running using the previous config

Re: One-line password generator

2017-08-30 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Curt wrote: > How about TawnyLoveRockefellerIII? Expect to get mails like: "Your money account at Blingstergirl.com is empty. Please send 1 million $ and some swimwear photos of you to prove your identity." Have a nice day :) Thomas

Re: One-line password generator

2017-08-30 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > Once again: QUOTE THE ARTICLE!!! Ouch my eyes. You shout. If the article puts one of its key statements into a diagram, then i cannot quote that directly as text, but only re-narrate it. > Then, QUOTE ME. > quote PRECISELY I did this in many lines. Without shoutin

Re: On another (but related) note: Zip files

2017-08-30 Thread Darac Marjal
On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 03:57:52PM -0700, James H. H. Lampert wrote: I know that the tradition for Linux is GZipped tarballs, but I also know that, at least from the Gnome desktop, I can open a PKZip-compatible Zip file, and create a (presumably also) PKZip-compatible Zip file. I don't, howev

Re: dhcp restart with bad config

2017-08-30 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2017-08-29, Bonno Bloksma wrote: > Hi, > > Today I had a small (big?) problem with the DHCP server. > When I make any changes I allways do a > # service isc-dhcp-server restart > to test the new config. In the past when there was an error in the config the > service would keep running using th

Re: One-line password generator

2017-08-30 Thread Curt
On 2017-08-29, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > >> Ok, they have to start somewhere - it might as well be you. :) > > Never choose a username that looks like money or sexual exploitability. How about TawnyLoveRockefellerIII? -- "Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana." Groucho.