First issue:
https://springrts.com/mantis/view.php?id=5634
This Kloot character keeps closing my promoted Zero-K tickets that get
promoted because of Spring engine issues. On Debian 8, the game ran
slow. On Debian 9 the game doesn't start.
A couple days ago, he said that my POLARIS10 drivers wer
On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 12:42 AM, Reco wrote:
> [...]
>> >
>> >> This behaviour on a critical component is mere madness.
>> >
>> > OpenBSD folks beg to differ.
>> >
>> > https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=149902196520920&w=2
>>
>> They were mocking systemd, not adopting the behaviour...
>
> Rly?
On 07/06/2017 10:00 AM, Reco wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Thu, 6 Jul 2017 15:49:41 +0200
> Erwan David wrote:
>
>>> True. But does libsystemd0 count? It's a library, not an executable.
>>>
>> There are also packages which add a dependency on systemd whereas the
>> same software works perfectly on
I made a wishlist bug to add support for the rtl8812au/rtl8814au hardware.
Given that it's already made its way into Ubuntu, perhaps there's a chance
this will get included in Debian at some point.
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Hi Larry,
The drivers you need are not available as a backport because no Debian
release packages said drivers. You'll need to compile them
yourself. However, the process should be fairly easy.
I think you want the drivers from here: https://gith
On Thu, 6 Jul 2017 20:55:48 +0100 Jonathan Dowland
wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 06, 2017 at 09:02:24AM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> >Even in Expert Mode, there's no choice to install an alternate init.
> >And with systemd being a major system dependency in Debian, it's
> >always going to be around rega
John Hasler wrote:
> songbird writes:
>> i've been running testing with bits from unstable and/or experimental
>> for quite some time now.
>
> Experimental is a completely different kettle of fish.
of course. :) it is not like i'm using a lot of
things from there. more like one or two items.
On Thu, Jul 06, 2017 at 09:02:24AM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
Even in Expert Mode, there's no choice to install an alternate init.
And with systemd being a major system dependency in Debian, it's always
going to be around regardless of which init you migrate to.
I believe expert mode offers y
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On Thu, 6 Jul 2017 10:57:55 +0100 Jonathan Dowland
wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 05, 2017 at 04:32:17PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> >If you're referring to "preseed" or "debootstrap" scenerios, those
> >are more "work-arounds" than a choice from within the installer --
> >What my original query was abo
Hi.
On Thu, 6 Jul 2017 15:49:41 +0200
Erwan David wrote:
> > True. But does libsystemd0 count? It's a library, not an executable.
> >
> There are also packages which add a dependency on systemd whereas the
> same software works perfectly on FreeBSD, thus without anything
> ressembling i
Hi.
On Thu, 6 Jul 2017 15:27:04 +0200
Erwan David wrote:
> Le 07/06/17 à 13:48, Reco a écrit :
> > Hi.
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 06, 2017 at 12:53:29PM +0200, Erwan David wrote:
> >> Le 07/03/17 à 22:48, Dejan Jocic a écrit :
> >>>
> >>> You can still use Debian without systemd as init.
>On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 2:41 PM, Larry Dighera wrote:
>
>> Which Debian Stretch package provides firmware for the Realtek
>> RTL8814U chip? In particular, the Comfast CF-917AC 1750Mbps USB3
>> adapter: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01B75MHR0 .
>>
>> Kali Linux supports the RTL8814 natively:
>> http
Am Wed, 5 Jul 2017 13:00:04 -0400 (EDT)
schrieb Anonymous :
> You can be a coffee achiever
> You can sit around the house and watch Leave It To Beaver
> The future's up to you
> So what you gonna do
>
> Dare to be stupid
But never dare to tell who you are - fie!
On Thu, 6 Jul 2017 11:50:24 +0100 Jonathan Dowland
wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 05, 2017 at 04:41:42PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> >All that can be done on a window manager only system, too. Just
> >install the utility needed, either terminal or X-based..
>
> You are missing the point entirely. I wa
On Thu, Jul 06, 2017 at 09:43:48AM -0400, Jason Wittlin-Cohen wrote:
> The last post on the bug report indicates that this issue has been fixed.
> The changelog for the fixed version states:
>
>* enable glusterfs support (glusterfs-common), in qemu-block-extra
>
> Stretch and newer contain qe
On 06/07/17 13:10, Greg Wooledge wrote:
On Thu, Jul 06, 2017 at 07:34:04AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
But that is not the scenario I am discussing. I am discussing the
experience which an ordinary user, who simply selects from the options
which the installer lists, will have. (My use of the term
Le 07/06/17 à 15:27, Reco a écrit :
> On Thu, Jul 06, 2017 at 08:45:30AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
>> On 2017-07-06 at 07:48, Reco wrote:
>>
>>> Hi.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 06, 2017 at 12:53:29PM +0200, Erwan David wrote:
>>>
Le 07/03/17 à 22:48, Dejan Jocic a écrit :
> You can still use
Le 07/06/17 à 13:48, Reco a écrit :
> Hi.
>
> On Thu, Jul 06, 2017 at 12:53:29PM +0200, Erwan David wrote:
>> Le 07/03/17 à 22:48, Dejan Jocic a écrit :
>>>
>>> You can still use Debian without systemd as init. Explained here:
>>>
>>> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/05/msg00538.htm
On Thu, Jul 06, 2017 at 08:45:30AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
> On 2017-07-06 at 07:48, Reco wrote:
>
> > Hi.
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 06, 2017 at 12:53:29PM +0200, Erwan David wrote:
> >
> >> Le 07/03/17 à 22:48, Dejan Jocic a écrit :
> >>
> >>> You can still use Debian without systemd as init. Exp
The last post on the bug report indicates that this issue has been fixed.
The changelog for the fixed version states:
* enable glusterfs support (glusterfs-common), in qemu-block-extra
Stretch and newer contain qemu-block-extra, and it depends on glusterfs-common.
On Jul 6, 2017 8:10 AM, "Da
On Thu, Jul 06, 2017 at 07:34:04AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
Am I?
I'm bored now of repeating myself.
Certainly there are ways to set things up in advance so that the
installer will never install the systemd-sysv package (or at least there
are reported to be - I've never tried any of them my
Hi everybody
I 've written a bash script and 2 small python files, to fix a problem I
found in apt-mirror. I don't know if I don't use correctly apt-mirror.
I give my problem and the script which solve the problem.
before that I don't understand this error ???:
Use of uninitialized value $conf
On 2017-07-06 at 07:48, Reco wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Thu, Jul 06, 2017 at 12:53:29PM +0200, Erwan David wrote:
>
>> Le 07/03/17 à 22:48, Dejan Jocic a écrit :
>>
>>> You can still use Debian without systemd as init. Explained
>>> here:
>>>
>>> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/05/msg00538.
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On Thu, Jul 06, 2017 at 06:52:13AM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> tomas writes:
> > Big, heavily interdependent systems [...]
> I have full Perl and Python environments and I sometimes run CFD, FEM
> and CAD packages. I think that the key is that I scan
On Thu, Jul 06, 2017 at 07:34:04AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
> But that is not the scenario I am discussing. I am discussing the
> experience which an ordinary user, who simply selects from the options
> which the installer lists, will have. (My use of the term "option" in
> the quoted paragraph,
I'm currently running a number of virtual hosts under qemu/kvm backed by
iscsi storage and would like to move the storage onto glusterfs.
Unfortunately, Debian's qemu does not come with gluster support. When
searching for information on this, I came across this bug report:
https://bugs.debian.org
songbird writes:
> i've been running testing with bits from unstable and/or experimental
> for quite some time now.
Experimental is a completely different kettle of fish. Unstable
contains packages that the developer hopes and expects will migrate to
Testing and end up in Stable without incident,
Hi.
On Thu, Jul 06, 2017 at 12:53:29PM +0200, Erwan David wrote:
> Le 07/03/17 à 22:48, Dejan Jocic a écrit :
> >
> > You can still use Debian without systemd as init. Explained here:
> >
> > https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/05/msg00538.html
> >
> > If you would prefer that it
On 2017-07-06 at 04:09, Dejan Jocic wrote:
> On 06-07-17, David Griffith wrote:
>
>> I'm aware of that technique. What I was talking about is a menu
>> option that pops up when the install is running that explicitly
>> asks the person installing which init to use.
>
> There was no such option w
On Thu, Jul 06, 2017 at 05:25:05PM +1000, David wrote:
> Shells do not set this variable to identify themselves.
> On jessie, 'man 1 login', states that it sets SHELL. I understand this to
> mean that 'login' exports SHELL as an environment variable to child
> processes of 'login'.
>
> I believe
tomas writes:
> Big, heavily interdependent systems consisting of lots of packages
> (big language environments à la Perl, Python, Java -- but most
> prominently big desktop environments) are especially vulnerable to
> version churn, which typically happens in testing once in its life
> cycle.
I h
On 2017-07-06 at 06:54, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 05, 2017 at 10:57:14PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
>
>> Since it is not even conceptually possible to install Debian with
>> no init system at all (even if an option to do so existed, what
>> would it *do* in practice?), having there be
Jason Cohen wrote:
...
> My question is how Debian Testing and Unstable compare in terms of
> stability. The Debian documentation suggests that Testing is more
> stable than Unstable because packages are delayed by 2-10 days and can
> only be promoted if no RC bugs are opened in that period [1].
Am Donnerstag, 6. Juli 2017, 11:50:44 CEST schrieb to...@tuxteam.de:
> On Thu, Jul 06, 2017 at 09:57:50AM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 06, 2017 at 12:22:29AM +0200, Javier Barroso wrote:
> > >Hi,
> > >
> > >On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 11:12 PM, Rainer Dorsch wrote:
> > >>Hi,
> > >>
> > >>
> My experience, solely as a user, has been that sometimes the unstable
> distribution breaks and you're hosed. I can't remember when I was
> last burned by running testing.
I can't remember when I was last burned by Unstable. It is necessary to
follow debian-dev to know when not to upgrade. I
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On Wed, Jul 05, 2017 at 10:57:14PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote:
Since it is not even conceptually possible to install Debian with no
init system at all (even if an option to do so existed, what would it
*do* in practice?), having there be an option to select which of the
available init systems shou
Le 07/03/17 à 22:48, Dejan Jocic a écrit :
>
> You can still use Debian without systemd as init. Explained here:
>
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/05/msg00538.html
>
> If you would prefer that it is some derivate/fork of Debian without
> systemd, I do not have personal experience wit
On Wed, Jul 05, 2017 at 04:49:41PM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote:
Is it true that systemd only allows sysvinit to run inside of systemd, in fact
systemd is starting your computer and shutting down your computer and still
running in the background while you are using your computer?
No. It is not t
On Wed, Jul 05, 2017 at 04:41:42PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
All that can be done on a window manager only system, too. Just install
the utility needed, either terminal or X-based..
You are missing the point entirely. I was not arguing it was impossible
to get that functionality without usi
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On Wed, Jul 05, 2017 at 04:32:17PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
If you're referring to "preseed" or "debootstrap" scenerios, those are
more "work-arounds" than a choice from within the installer -- What
my original query was about. While they work, so does the other option
of switching inits aft
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On Thu, Jul 06, 2017 at 09:57:50AM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 06, 2017 at 12:22:29AM +0200, Javier Barroso wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 11:12 PM, Rainer Dorsch wrote:
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>can anybody help to explain
On 07/05/2017 10:25 PM, David Griffith wrote:
[snip]
I'm aware of that technique. What I was talking about is a menu
option that pops up when the install is running that explicitly
asks the person installing which init to use.
On 07/06/2017 01:28 AM, Ansgar Burchardt replied:
But there are f
On July 5, 2017 9:11:27 AM PDT, The Wanderer wrote:
>On 2017-07-05 at 11:27, Don Armstrong wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 04 Jul 2017, David Griffith wrote:
>
>>> It would be nice to have an install-time option for selecting the
>desired init.
>>
>> It already exists:
>>
>> https://lists.debian.org/debian-
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>
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On Thu, Jul 06, 2017 at 12:22:29AM +0200, Javier Barroso wrote:
Hi,
On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 11:12 PM, Rainer Dorsch wrote:
Hi,
can anybody help to explain what is going on here ?
rd@mohot:~$ echo $SHELL
/bin/bash
rd@mohot:~$ if [ "abc" > "dec" ]; then echo bad; fi
bad
rd@mohot:~$ if [ "
I can not help much in developing or bug analysis, so my contribution has been
to test
what is handed out to me for testing. I have yet not been able to contribute
much as
nothing seems to break in testing or sid (amd64 openbox/lxde) ever. Sometimes I
wonder when I read the list or archives thing
On 06-07-17, David Griffith wrote:
>
> I'm aware of that technique. What I was talking about is a menu option that
> pops up when the install is running that explicitly asks the person
> installing which init to use.
>
>
> --
> David Griffith
> d...@661.org
>
> A: Because it fouls the order i
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On Wed, Jul 05, 2017 at 09:24:08PM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> Jimmy Johnson writes:
> > From what I read, very serious bugs are likely to be caught before
> > making it to Testing, while Unstable benefits from getting security
> > updates (in the form
On 6 July 2017 at 07:53, der.hans wrote:
>
> "$SHELL" is a builtin variable that tells you what shell you're currently
> running.
No, that's "not accurate", as indeed you wrote later.
Shells do not set this variable to identify themselves.
This can be easily tested by starting any shell interac
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