Hi All,
I am using Yocto poky Distro version 1.8.1 to build my image.
And have used Glib-2 version 2.46.2 package.
While testing glib-2 unittests, one of the test case "regex" failed with
below logs:
# ERROR:../../../glib-2.46.2/glib/tests/regex.c:129:test_new_fail:
assertion failed (error == (g
Hi all,
I'm a Linux novice and have run into a problem with a clean Stretch install
and apt.
I started tinkering with Debian late in the game with Wheezy and have used
Jessie pretty much without problem. After setting up some new Stretch
systems (amd64) I am running into issues when using a
Mini Trader wrote:
> I am on stretch Debian 4.9.30-2+deb9u2. Is there a link to submit this
> bug too?
>
> On Ubuntu's 4.4.0-83-generic this is not reproducible.
usually reportbug is used to do this, however IMO you are hitting some
other bug, but this is just a guess
regards
Hi,
On Mon, Jul 03, 2017 at 10:28:42PM -0700, dmacdoug wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 02, 2017 at 01:00:33PM +0200, Rene Engelhard wrote:
> > On Sat, Jul 01, 2017 at 11:05:20PM -0700, dmacdoug wrote:
> > > I have LibreOffice5 installed on Debian Stretch on an Asus EeePC
> > > notebook which uses an Atom N45
On Sun, Jul 02, 2017 at 01:00:33PM +0200, Rene Engelhard wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 01, 2017 at 11:05:20PM -0700, dmacdoug wrote:
> > I have LibreOffice5 installed on Debian Stretch on an Asus EeePC
> > notebook which uses an Atom N455 processor.
>
> i386?
>
Yes
> > This same problem occurred befor
On Sun, Jul 02, 2017 at 12:12:40PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 01, 2017 at 11:05:20PM -0700, dmacdoug wrote:
> > I have LibreOffice5 installed on Debian Stretch on an Asus EeePC
> > notebook which uses an Atom N455 processor.
> >
> > All the LibreOffice modules seem to work fine
Hi,
On 07/04/2017 02:06 AM, Jason Wittlin-Cohen wrote:
> I assume this will work fine for a server system, but will it work on
> a desktop system using GNOME? From what I've read, GNOME has several
> systemd dependencies, but it's not clear to me whether this requires
> systemd to be used as init,
Der Verkauf endet heute!
Damit endet für dich leider auch die Möglichkeit dir deinen gestählten
Männerkörper mithilfe der Tricks der alten Griechen zu formen.
Ich nehme an, dass du eher die Person bist die einfach lange auf Gelegenheiten
wartet und sie dann immer verpasst.
Genau so ein Typ war
On Mon 03 Jul 2017 at 17:05:51 (-0300), Wellington Terumi Uemura wrote:
> On 03-07-2017 16:42, David Wright wrote:
> >The discussion is not about units, but about reference points.¹
> The discussion also is not about reference points,
I disagree. The RTC is a reference point for setting the system
When I start DOSEMU and use any DOS program, I get "DPMI: Unhandled
Exception 0e - Terminating Client" and then I'm told that the emulator is
unstable and should be rebooted. Running any program after that causes
DOSEMU to crash.
Identical trouble was reported in https://bugs.debian.org/797
On Mon, Jul 03, 2017 at 09:17:00AM -0700, tony mollica wrote:
> On another note,
>
> just checking to see if anyone has used the nvidia driver (304
> series) install and if there were any problems that arose or needed
> to be resolved either before or after the installation?
I finally got this to
On 07/03/2017 04:41 AM, Whit Hansell wrote:
Can anyone recommend a monochrome (black toner) laser printer that is
currently available and reasonably priced (<$300). I am interested in
finding one as i am sick and tired of buying ink every month even when
I'm not printing much. Have tried the Br
I assume this will work fine for a server system, but will it work on a
desktop system using GNOME? From what I've read, GNOME has several systemd
dependencies, but it's not clear to me whether this requires systemd to be
used as init, or merely that systemd's packages must be installed.
Also, th
On Mon, 3 Jul 2017 14:46:08 -0400
Dan Ritter wrote:
...
> A Brother with all of:
>
> - ethernet networking
> - duplex
> - BR/Script3 (Their PostScript clone, which I think is actually
> GhostScript)
>
> will not need a driver.
>
> Current examples: HL-L5100N ($170), HL-L6200DW ($250)
Very
I am on stretch Debian 4.9.30-2+deb9u2. Is there a link to submit this
bug too?
On Ubuntu's 4.4.0-83-generic this is not reproducible.
On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 6:45 PM, deloptes wrote:
> Mini Trader wrote:
>
> > More information. I found a post here:
> >
> > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/
Mini Trader wrote:
> More information. I found a post here:
>
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1650635
>
> They mention LRO so I disabled it. I cannot reproduce if LRO is disabled.
>
> On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 5:59 PM, Mini Trader
> wrote:
>
>> Looks to be the same.
>>
>
On Mon, 3 Jul 2017 08:05:52 -0400
Adam Rosi-Kessel wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 03, 2017 at 07:41:31AM -0400, Whit Hansell wrote:
> > Can anyone recommend a monochrome (black toner) laser printer that is
> > currently available and reasonably priced (<$300). I am interested in
> > finding one as i am si
On 07/03/2017 05:45 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote:
On Mon, 3 Jul 2017 11:54:34 -0400 Whit Hansell
wrote:
On 07/03/2017 10:41 AM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
On Monday, July 03, 2017 07:41:31 AM Whit Hansell wrote:
Can anyone recommend a monochrome (black toner) laser printer that
is currently av
On Mon, 3 Jul 2017 16:39:26 -0400 Greg Wooledge
wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 03, 2017 at 08:42:11PM +0100, Rory Campbell-Lange wrote:
> > Simply put; systemd doesn't suit me. Its a bit like being asked to
> > use an graphical editor instead of vi. Or being forced to use
> > Windows. My laptop doesn't fee
More information. I found a post here:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1650635
They mention LRO so I disabled it. I cannot reproduce if LRO is disabled.
On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 5:59 PM, Mini Trader
wrote:
> Looks to be the same.
>
> On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 5:48 PM, delopte
Looks to be the same.
On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 5:48 PM, deloptes wrote:
> Mini Trader wrote:
>
> > task_numa_fault+0x6ed/0xd20
>
> what happens if you boot the vm with numa=off
>
>
>
>
On 3 July 2017 at 21:39, Greg Wooledge wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 03, 2017 at 08:42:11PM +0100, Rory Campbell-Lange wrote:
> > Simply put; systemd doesn't suit me. Its a bit like being asked to use
> > an graphical editor instead of vi. Or being forced to use Windows. My
> > laptop doesn't feel like my
Mini Trader wrote:
> task_numa_fault+0x6ed/0xd20
what happens if you boot the vm with numa=off
The middle button of my mouse (actually a 3-button laptop trackpad)
seemed to stop working in X after my jessie to stretch upgrade. It no
longer pasted text nor opened a web page in a new tab.
I since realised that it does still work but requires a limited time
interval between pressing and releas
On Mon, 3 Jul 2017 11:54:34 -0400 Whit Hansell
wrote:
>
>
> On 07/03/2017 10:41 AM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Monday, July 03, 2017 07:41:31 AM Whit Hansell wrote:
> >> Can anyone recommend a monochrome (black toner) laser printer that
> >> is currently available and reasonably priced (<
Pascal Hambourg composed on 2017-07-03 21:06 (UTC+0200):
> Wellington Terumi Uemura composed:
>> I use Linux since Slackware 2.0, way before Windows 95. And up to Debian
>> 8, I've never, EVER, had to follow that procedure because it worked just
>> fine before.
> Really ?
> Setting the RTC with
I had posted earlier that I was having issues with a java program but after
doing some quick digging I've been able to identity the error. I enabled
logging kernel messages over the network and was able to capture this.
Would appreciate some guidance on where to go from here.
[ 118.656721] -
On 03/07/17 20:42, Rory Campbell-Lange wrote:
Is there a pure Debian alternative?
There is an alternative init daemon, in the form of sysvinit (install
the package "sysvinit-core" to use this as your init daemon), and there
are several solutions for service management.
(I might humbly sugge
On 03-07-17, Rory Campbell-Lange wrote:
> I run Debian on my laptops and several servers.
>
> On my laptop I've had several recent occasions when it has been irksome
> to try and find the cause of a service not starting or shutting down,
> and I've concluded that I'd like to move away from systemd
On 07/03/2017 12:39 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
On Monday 03 July 2017 10:41:13 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
On Monday, July 03, 2017 07:41:31 AM Whit Hansell wrote:
Can anyone recommend a monochrome (black toner) laser printer that
is currently available and reasonably priced (<$300). I am
intere
On 07/03/2017 03:22 PM, David Christensen wrote:
On 07/03/17 04:41, Whit Hansell wrote:
Can anyone recommend a monochrome (black toner) laser printer that is
currently available and reasonably priced (<$300). I am interested in
finding one as i am sick and tired of buying ink every month even
Hello,
On 07/03/2017 03:42 PM, Rory Campbell-Lange wrote:
> I run Debian on my laptops and several servers.
>
> On my laptop I've had several recent occasions when it has been irksome
> to try and find the cause of a service not starting or shutting down,
> and I've concluded that I'd like to mov
On Mon, Jul 03, 2017 at 08:42:11PM +0100, Rory Campbell-Lange wrote:
> Simply put; systemd doesn't suit me. Its a bit like being asked to use
> an graphical editor instead of vi. Or being forced to use Windows. My
> laptop doesn't feel like my machine anymore.
>
> Is there a pure Debian alternativ
On 07/03/2017 02:46 PM, Dan Ritter wrote:
On Mon, Jul 03, 2017 at 12:39:06PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
On Monday 03 July 2017 10:41:13 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
On Monday, July 03, 2017 07:41:31 AM Whit Hansell wrote:
Can anyone recommend a monochrome (black toner) laser printer that
is cu
On 07/03/2017 01:41 PM, Tom Dial wrote:
On 07/03/2017 05:41 AM, Whit Hansell wrote:
Can anyone recommend a monochrome (black toner) laser printer that is
currently available and reasonably priced (<$300). I am interested in
finding one as i am sick and tired of buying ink every month even wh
On Monday, July 03, 2017 11:54:34 AM Whit Hansell wrote:
> Thanks for your reply,
You're welcome!
> Maybe I should have prefaced that statement with
> a "for me" phrase. I do print out a number of articles during a month
> but I used to have an hp722 printer and that cartridge held 2-3 times
>
I run Debian on my laptops and several servers.
On my laptop I've had several recent occasions when it has been irksome
to try and find the cause of a service not starting or shutting down,
and I've concluded that I'd like to move away from systemd as I don't
like the binary log.
This isn't a con
Le quintidi 15 messidor, an CCXXV, Wellington Terumi Uemura a écrit :
> I have no idea why they are forcing the use o UTC, local time was doing just
> fine. My TV doesn't use UTC, my router (OpenWRT) doesn't use UTC, my phone
> (Samsung S7 Edge) doesn't use UTC, it doesn't even has settings for UTC
On 03-07-2017 16:42, David Wright wrote:
The discussion is not about units, but about reference points.¹
The discussion also is not about reference points, but what is right to do.
I don't need UTC, many people around the world doesn't neither, leave UTC
for those who need it.
True; before t
We already know that information, Pascal. That is not the issue.
On 03-07-2017 16:06, Pascal Hambourg wrote:
Le 02/07/2017 à 23:08, Wellington Terumi Uemura a écrit :
I use Linux since Slackware 2.0, way before Windows 95. And up to Debian
8, I've never, EVER, had to follow that procedure becau
On Mon 03 Jul 2017 at 13:00:24 (-0300), Wellington Terumi Uemura wrote:
> I could say the same for for US not using a metric system, you don't change
> this by force even if it is right.
The discussion is not about units, but about reference points.¹
> I don't need UTC, many people around the wor
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On Mon, Jul 03, 2017 at 07:35:09AM -0700, tony mollica wrote:
> I really don't know what's happening regarding this issue [...]
> the printer was stopped with no other indications of what was
> happening [...] AND it keeps the extruder
> and platen hea
On 07/03/17 04:41, Whit Hansell wrote:
Can anyone recommend a monochrome (black toner) laser printer that is
currently available and reasonably priced (<$300). I am interested in
finding one as i am sick and tired of buying ink every month even when
I'm not printing much. Have tried the Brother
Olivier F. R. Dierick wrote:
> acpi=off
I don't know about the kernel
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:R40e
but you better check if your ATI will be supported with the recent X
server ;)
regards
Le 02/07/2017 à 23:08, Wellington Terumi Uemura a écrit :
I use Linux since Slackware 2.0, way before Windows 95. And up to Debian
8, I've never, EVER, had to follow that procedure because it worked just
fine before.
Really ?
Setting the RTC with local time does not work with dual boot because
Le 02/07/2017 à 22:33, to...@tuxteam.de a écrit :
BTW, this hints against Hans's guess that only FAT or NTFS are
auto-mounted. This file system is being mounted.
I do not see such a guess in any of the two Hans's posts in this thread.
Also the filesystem was mounted more than 10 seconds after
On Mon, Jul 03, 2017 at 12:39:06PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Monday 03 July 2017 10:41:13 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > On Monday, July 03, 2017 07:41:31 AM Whit Hansell wrote:
> > > Can anyone recommend a monochrome (black toner) laser printer that
> > > is currently available and reasona
Hi,
I wanted to file a bug report, but I don't know which package the issue
belongs to.
The computer is a IBM Thinkpad R40e.
Currently Debian 8 is installed. Ever since Debian 8 was installed on
the harddrive I had to add acpi=off to the kernel options, otherwise the
computer does not boot. No o
On 07/03/2017 05:41 AM, Whit Hansell wrote:
> Can anyone recommend a monochrome (black toner) laser printer that is
> currently available and reasonably priced (<$300). I am interested in
> finding one as i am sick and tired of buying ink every month even when
> I'm not printing much. Have trie
Hello Forum,
I have just tried merkaartor on my Stretch box:
so far I cannot make it works as within Jessie:
does anyone observed the same ?
Any hint is welcome.
Thanks,
Jerome
On 07/03/2017 06:41 AM, Whit Hansell wrote:
Can anyone recommend a monochrome (black toner) laser printer that is
currently available and reasonably priced (<$300). I am interested in
finding one as i am sick and tired of buying ink every month even when
I'm not printing much. Have tried the
On Monday 03 July 2017 11:02:56 David Wright wrote:
> On Mon 03 Jul 2017 at 09:38:12 (+0200), to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> > On Sun, Jul 02, 2017 at 06:08:31PM -0300, Wellington Terumi Uemura
wrote:
> > > I use Linux since Slackware 2.0, way before Windows 95. And up to
> > > Debian 8, I've never, E
On Monday 03 July 2017 10:41:13 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, July 03, 2017 07:41:31 AM Whit Hansell wrote:
> > Can anyone recommend a monochrome (black toner) laser printer that
> > is currently available and reasonably priced (<$300). I am
> > interested in finding one as i am sick and
On Sat, 1 Jul 2017 16:36:41 -0400, you wrote:
>Howdy! CVE-2017-9445 is a remotely exploitable bug in systemd. It was
>first announced to the public about four or five days ago, not sure
>when it would have been announced to the security team.
>
>Am I correct in interpreting this:
>https://security
On another note,
just checking to see if anyone has used the nvidia driver (304 series)
install and if there were any problems that arose or needed to be
resolved either before or after the installation?
thanks,
tony
I could say the same for for US not using a metric system, you don't change
this by force even if it is right.
I don't need UTC, many people around the world doesn't neither, leave UTC
for those who need it.
We can avoid a lot of mess with that.
Em 3 de jul de 2017 12:03, "David Wright"
escreve
On 07/03/2017 10:41 AM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
On Monday, July 03, 2017 07:41:31 AM Whit Hansell wrote:
Can anyone recommend a monochrome (black toner) laser printer that is
currently available and reasonably priced (<$300). I am interested in
finding one as i am sick and tired of buying i
Not worth the bother, I agree.
I just removed all the autostart stuff and that seems to work.
Tony
On 07/03/2017 08:43 AM, Curt wrote:
On 2017-07-03, tony mollica wrote:
Thanks for the link. Very interesting.
The link mentions a light-locker-settings package or configuration. It
would nic
On 2017-07-03, tony mollica wrote:
> Thanks for the link. Very interesting.
> The link mentions a light-locker-settings package or configuration. It
> would nice to know if that package/application actually produces the
> light-locker.conf file.
Yeah, apparently there's a config utility call
On Mon 03 Jul 2017 at 09:28:36 (-0400), Cindy-Sue Causey wrote:
> On 7/3/17, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
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> > On Mon, Jul 03, 2017 at 08:25:58AM -0300, Wellington Terumi Uemura wrote:
> >> Looks like people can't make up their minds, /etc/adjtim
Hi,
On Mon, Jul 03, 2017 at 04:16:53PM +0100, Joe wrote:
> The amd64 software versions were not all identical to the i386 ones, but
> I got away with it. The major configurations, samba and exim4, went in
Shouldn't happen on stable.
> without a hitch, and this was a server, so no faffing about w
On Mon, 3 Jul 2017 10:36:56 -0400
Adam Rosi-Kessel wrote:
> On 7/3/2017 6:52 AM, Rene Engelhard wrote:
> >>> On 01-07-2017 10:47, Adam Rosi-Kessel wrote:
> I have been unable to execute Java with >=2048M memory allocation
> since upgrading to stretch. I've changed nothing in my
>
Hello,
thank's for your time reading this.
I use wine(playonlinux wine 1.6.1) + 32 bit opengl libs
(no closed-source drivers)
for an application (game).
(It runs almost perfect on debian 8 (jessie))
If I dist-upgrade to debian 9 (stretch)
game has campaign map textures problem which
make it almost
On 7/3/2017 10:56 AM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
On Mon, 03 Jul 2017, Adam Rosi-Kessel wrote:
This isn't on purpose and not something I've ever thought about it. It looks
like migrating an existing system from i386 to amd64 is a cumbersome and
potentially glitchy process. Is it still tru
On Mon 03 Jul 2017 at 09:38:12 (+0200), to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 02, 2017 at 06:08:31PM -0300, Wellington Terumi Uemura wrote:
> > I use Linux since Slackware 2.0, way before Windows 95. And up to
> > Debian 8, I've never, EVER, had to follow that procedure because it
> > worked just f
On Mon, 03 Jul 2017, Adam Rosi-Kessel wrote:
> This isn't on purpose and not something I've ever thought about it. It looks
> like migrating an existing system from i386 to amd64 is a cumbersome and
> potentially glitchy process. Is it still true that there is no foolproof and
> easy way to transit
On Monday, July 03, 2017 10:36:56 AM Adam Rosi-Kessel wrote:
> This isn't on purpose and not something I've ever thought about it. It
> looks like migrating an existing system from i386 to amd64 is a
> cumbersome and potentially glitchy process. Is it still true that there
> is no foolproof and eas
Thanks for the link. Very interesting.
The link mentions a light-locker-settings package or configuration. It
would nice to know if that package/application actually produces the
light-locker.conf file.
Tony
On 07/03/2017 07:31 AM, Curt wrote:
On 2017-07-03, tony mollica wrote:
My progra
On Monday, July 03, 2017 07:41:31 AM Whit Hansell wrote:
> Can anyone recommend a monochrome (black toner) laser printer that is
> currently available and reasonably priced (<$300). I am interested in
> finding one as i am sick and tired of buying ink every month even when
> I'm not printing much.
On 7/3/2017 6:52 AM, Rene Engelhard wrote:
On 01-07-2017 10:47, Adam Rosi-Kessel wrote:
I have been unable to execute Java with >=2048M memory allocation
since upgrading to stretch. I've changed nothing in my configuration
otherwise.
Might be related to this:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-sec
I really don't know what's happening regarding this issue. I just
relayed what I saw occurring. It appears the processes are still
'running' but suspended. The information going from the computer to the
printer was stopped with no other indications of what was happening. In
my circumstance
On 2017-07-03, tony mollica wrote:
> My programs were also still in place but they stopped processing until I
> logged back in via the light-locker screen. After that, the processing
> re-started (evidenced by the printer continuing merrily on it's way) and
> then I continued to log into the f
I think this is a NM issue. I was having difficulty connecting with a USB
adapter. Just to make sure it wasn't my adapter, I tried a few different
distros (using live CDs) that all used NM, and none of them could connect.
As soon as I install WICD, it works flawlessly even after reboot.
On Thu, Ju
On 7/3/17, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
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> On Mon, Jul 03, 2017 at 08:25:58AM -0300, Wellington Terumi Uemura wrote:
>> Looks like people can't make up their minds, /etc/adjtime is missing
>> from initramfs.
>>
>> root@Dragon:/boot# lsinitramfs /boot/i
On 07/03/2017 08:05 AM, Adam Rosi-Kessel wrote:
On Mon, Jul 03, 2017 at 07:41:31AM -0400, Whit Hansell wrote:
Can anyone recommend a monochrome (black toner) laser printer that is
currently available and reasonably priced (<$300). I am interested in
finding one as i am sick and tired of buyin
On Mon, Jul 03, 2017 at 07:41:31AM -0400, Whit Hansell wrote:
> Can anyone recommend a monochrome (black toner) laser printer that is
> currently available and reasonably priced (<$300). I am interested in
> finding one as i am sick and tired of buying ink every month even when I'm
> not printing
Hi,
On Sat, Jul 01, 2017 at 10:49:53AM -0400, Adam Rosi-Kessel wrote:
> On 7/1/2017 9:50 AM, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
> >On 01-07-2017 10:47, Adam Rosi-Kessel wrote:
> >>I have been unable to execute Java with >=2048M memory allocation
> >>since upgrading to stretch. I've changed nothing in my
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On Mon, Jul 03, 2017 at 08:25:58AM -0300, Wellington Terumi Uemura wrote:
> Looks like people can't make up their minds, /etc/adjtime is missing
> from initramfs.
>
> root@Dragon:/boot# lsinitramfs /boot/initrd.img-4.9.0-3-amd64|grep etc
> etc
> etc/l
Can anyone recommend a monochrome (black toner) laser printer that is
currently available and reasonably priced (<$300). I am interested in
finding one as i am sick and tired of buying ink every month even when
I'm not printing much. Have tried the Brother 2270DW but can't get it
to work. Wh
Looks like people can't make up their minds, /etc/adjtime is missing
from initramfs.
root@Dragon:/boot# lsinitramfs /boot/initrd.img-4.9.0-3-amd64|grep etc
etc
etc/ld.so.cache
etc/mtab
etc/ld.so.conf.d
etc/ld.so.conf.d/zz_i386-biarch-compat.conf
etc/ld.so.conf.d/libc.conf
etc/ld.so.conf.d/x86_64
On Sun 02/Jul/2017 15:13:06 +0200 Christian Seiler wrote:
> (To clarify: I'm not saying that people who don't like systemd
> can't be rational, but I do think that anyone who claims to see
> a conspiracy here is not taking a rational position.)
Admittedly it was somewhat tongue-in-cheek, although
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On Sun, Jul 02, 2017 at 08:19:51PM -0700, tony mollica wrote:
> My programs were also still in place but they stopped processing
> until I logged back in via the light-locker screen.
This approach seems to be so heavy handed that I'm not sure I'd
want
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On Sun, Jul 02, 2017 at 06:08:31PM -0300, Wellington Terumi Uemura wrote:
> I use Linux since Slackware 2.0, way before Windows 95. And up to
> Debian 8, I've never, EVER, had to follow that procedure because it
> worked just fine before. I'm using Deb
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