Re: Downgrading specific packages with apt

2017-06-10 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 10 June 2017 10:45:22 Fungi4All wrote: > UTC Time: June 10, 2017 7:42 AM > From: solit...@mail.com > > On Friday, 9 June 2017 23:38:40 CEST Jimmy Johnson wrote: > > I've never downgrade using apt, but with synaptic it's not too hard, > > Hi Jimmy, and thanks for your reply. I'm under Pl

Re: ifconfig network resolution

2017-06-10 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 10 June 2017 21:18:42 Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > My apologies in advance because I'm asking that without knowing if he > does or does not actually speak Japanese. He might be able to read > that quite well. In that case, I'm envious because that's on a #Life > to-do bucket list for me..

Re: Compiler segfault when building the kernel

2017-06-10 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi
On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 10:51 PM, Celejar wrote: > On Sat, 10 Jun 2017 09:37:39 -0400 > kamaraju kusumanchi wrote: > >> On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 7:58 AM, Celejar wrote: >> > Any ideas? Is this a bug I should be filing against kernel-package (or >> > anywhere else)? >> >> Two things >> >> 1) Does t

Re: Compiler segfault when building the kernel

2017-06-10 Thread Celejar
On Sat, 10 Jun 2017 09:37:39 -0400 kamaraju kusumanchi wrote: > On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 7:58 AM, Celejar wrote: > > Any ideas? Is this a bug I should be filing against kernel-package (or > > anywhere else)? > > Two things > > 1) Does the problem go away if you upgrade to the latest compiler? >

Re: ifconfig network resolution

2017-06-10 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Joel, On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 07:55:50AM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: > # If the address to be assigned is given first, which I think everyone > # pretty much does: > > myadm@mycomp:~$ env LANG=en_US.UTF-8 sudo ifconfig eth0:1 down > myadm@mycomp:~$ env LANG=en_US.UTF-8 sudo ifconfig eth0:1 > 10.19

Re: SOLVED? - was [Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust]

2017-06-10 Thread Michael Milliman
On 06/10/2017 06:33 PM, songbird wrote: > Richard Owlett wrote: > ... >> I've just done: >> apt-get update >> apt-get upgrade >> apt-get dist-upgrade >> >> I no longer see the problem described in this thread. >> [just a heads up for those who haven't recently done update etc] > >

Re: SOLVED? - was [Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust]

2017-06-10 Thread songbird
Richard Owlett wrote: ... > I've just done: > apt-get update > apt-get upgrade > apt-get dist-upgrade > > I no longer see the problem described in this thread. > [just a heads up for those who haven't recently done update etc] correct, updated versions of some MATE pieces were accept

Re: SOLVED - was [Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust]

2017-06-10 Thread Michael Milliman
On 06/10/2017 03:55 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 05/18/2017 11:52 PM, Michael Milliman wrote: >> I have no clue what happened, but the desktop background picture has >> ceased to be displayed. I'm not even sure where to look to troubleshoot >> the problem. The salient information is: OS is ful

Re: ifconfig network resolution

2017-06-10 Thread Joel Rees
erk On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 7:55 AM, Joel Rees wrote: > [...] > Which is confusing to my middle-aged brain. So I could suggest editing > the man page, something along the lines of the following > > - > [...] > {add} > NOTES >The parameters and options are

Re: ifconfig network resolution

2017-06-10 Thread Joel Rees
Okay, here it is in the common language: - myadm@mycomp:~$ env LANG=en_US.UTF-8 sudo ifconfig eth0:1 down myadm@mycomp:~$ env LANG=en_US.UTF-8 sudo ifconfig eth0:1 eth0:1Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 53:bc:81:02:21:bb UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:

Re: ifconfig network resolution

2017-06-10 Thread Joel Rees
Sorry, again, On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 11:36 PM, Joel Rees wrote: > On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 8:16 PM, Pascal Hambourg > wrote: >> Le 10/06/2017 à 12:13, Joel Rees a écrit : >>> >>> On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 3:52 PM, Pascal Hambourg >>> wrote: Le 10/06/2017 à 03:57, Joel Rees a écrit : >>

SOLVED? - was [Re: Desktop Background Bites the Dust]

2017-06-10 Thread Richard Owlett
On 05/18/2017 11:52 PM, Michael Milliman wrote: I have no clue what happened, but the desktop background picture has ceased to be displayed. I'm not even sure where to look to troubleshoot the problem. The salient information is: OS is fully updated Testing, MATE desktop environment. I have att

Re: ifconfig network resolution

2017-06-10 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 6/10/17, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > On 6/10/17, Joe wrote: >> On Sat, 10 Jun 2017 23:36:06 +0900 >> Joel Rees wrote: >> >> >>> - >>> myadm@mycomp:~$ sudo ifconfig eth0:1 down >>> myadm@mycomp:~$ sudo ifconfig eth0:1 >>> eth0:1Link encap:イーサネット ハードウェ

Re: ifconfig network resolution

2017-06-10 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 6/10/17, Joe wrote: > On Sat, 10 Jun 2017 23:36:06 +0900 > Joel Rees wrote: > > >> - >> myadm@mycomp:~$ sudo ifconfig eth0:1 down >> myadm@mycomp:~$ sudo ifconfig eth0:1 >> eth0:1Link encap:イーサネット ハードウェアアドレス >> 50:af:73:12:64:aa UP BROADCAST RUNNING

Re: Choose between amd64 and i386

2017-06-10 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 10/06/2017 à 15:41, Rodolfo Medina a écrit : Pascal Hambourg writes: Did the installer start in EFI or BIOS/legacy mode ? Did you try all combinations of the following ? - BIOS/legacy boot mode or EFI boot mode - text-mode install or GUI install - 32-bit install or 64-bit install With US

Re: Choose between amd64 and i386

2017-06-10 Thread Felix Miata
Rodolfo Medina composed on 2017-06-10 1+:50 (UTC+0100): . > ...as I described, Debian doesn't even manage to start up on that > machine... and that's my problem... I don't use Windows and so the machine > is > there permanently unused, waiting and hoping for next Debian releases to work > in the

Re: initramfs-tools - forgotten change?

2017-06-10 Thread Dejan Jocic
On 10-06-17, David Wright wrote: > > On Sat 10 Jun 2017 at 15:46:14 (+0200), Hans wrote: > > Hi Ben, > > > > I believe, this is what happened: > > I don't know what the patch (in the OP) is or who Ben is (but I assume > they post from 4ax.com or decadent.org.uk). > > I can only give a data poin

Adding metadata tags to wav files

2017-06-10 Thread Rodolfo Medina
I successfully add metadata tags (album, artist, title, genre...) to mp3 files using ffmpeg: $ ffmpeg -i input.mp3 -c copy -metadata title="Yesterday" output.mp3 . When I do the same with wav format, the tags are then properly shown by ffmpeg itself, but they aren't by common media players. Ha

Re: Choose between amd64 and i386

2017-06-10 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Richard Owlett writes: > ~1 hr after my first post I also suggested trying a Live ISO. Thanks, I'll be soon testing a Live iso and also Michael Lange's iso suggestion... Then I'll report here. Rodolfo

Re: Choose between amd64 and i386

2017-06-10 Thread Richard Owlett
On 06/10/2017 11:29 AM, David Wright wrote: On Sat 10 Jun 2017 at 16:50:19 (+0100), Rodolfo Medina wrote: Richard Owlett writes: On 06/10/2017 08:41 AM, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Pascal Hambourg writes: Le 07/06/2017 à 10:33, Rodolfo Medina a écrit : Some months ago I tried many times to insta

Re: Choose between amd64 and i386

2017-06-10 Thread Richard Owlett
On 06/10/2017 10:50 AM, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Richard Owlett writes: On 06/10/2017 08:41 AM, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Pascal Hambourg writes: Le 07/06/2017 à 10:33, Rodolfo Medina a écrit : Some months ago I tried many times to install Debian on my Debian Acer One ... [*MASSIVE* SNIP]

Re: initramfs-tools - forgotten change?

2017-06-10 Thread David Wright
On Sat 10 Jun 2017 at 15:46:14 (+0200), Hans wrote: > Hi Ben, > > I believe, this is what happened: I don't know what the patch (in the OP) is or who Ben is (but I assume they post from 4ax.com or decadent.org.uk). I can only give a data point, with no particular insight into its generation. >

Re: Choose between amd64 and i386

2017-06-10 Thread David Wright
On Sat 10 Jun 2017 at 16:50:19 (+0100), Rodolfo Medina wrote: > Richard Owlett writes: > > On 06/10/2017 08:41 AM, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > >> Pascal Hambourg writes: > >>> Le 07/06/2017 à 10:33, Rodolfo Medina a écrit : > >> Some months ago I tried many times to install Debian on my Debian >

Re: Reply-to-all or reply-to-list again

2017-06-10 Thread Fungi4All
From: joel.r...@gmail.com > And Now Google Doesn't Think Users Should Ever Set Headers. > Progress is progress. Yeah. Progress is progress. ahem. Sorry. I guess I forgot something. {irony}Progress is progress.{end-irony} -- Joel Rees If you live in a cave this may actually have some meaning amo

Re: Choose between amd64 and i386

2017-06-10 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Richard Owlett writes: > On 06/10/2017 08:41 AM, Rodolfo Medina wrote: >> Pascal Hambourg writes: >> >>> Le 07/06/2017 à 10:33, Rodolfo Medina a écrit : >> Some months ago I tried many times to install Debian on my Debian > Acer One ... > > [*MASSIVE* SNIP] > >>> Did you try all com

Re: Choose between amd64 and i386

2017-06-10 Thread Richard Owlett
On 06/10/2017 09:38 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 06/10/2017 08:41 AM, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Pascal Hambourg writes: Le 07/06/2017 à 10:33, Rodolfo Medina a écrit : Some months ago I tried many times to install Debian on my Debian Acer One ... [*MASSIVE* SNIP] Did you try all combinati

Re: Stretch, WIFI connection failed with aborting authentication with ... by local choice (Reason: 3=DEAUTH_LEAVING)

2017-06-10 Thread Richard Owlett
On 06/10/2017 08:04 AM, Yann Cohen wrote: Hello, [snip] Please appologize my poor English. Your English is fine. The less said about my French, the better. Last week, I reinstalled my laptop (lenovo YOGA 13) with Debian Stretch and network-manager. Linux yogayan 4.9.0-3-amd64 #1 SMP D

Re: ifconfig network resolution

2017-06-10 Thread Joe
On Sat, 10 Jun 2017 23:36:06 +0900 Joel Rees wrote: > - > myadm@mycomp:~$ sudo ifconfig eth0:1 down > myadm@mycomp:~$ sudo ifconfig eth0:1 > eth0:1Link encap:イーサネット ハードウェアアドレス > 50:af:73:12:64:aa UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 > メトリック:1 割り込み

Re: Choose between amd64 and i386

2017-06-10 Thread Richard Owlett
On 06/10/2017 08:41 AM, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Pascal Hambourg writes: Le 07/06/2017 à 10:33, Rodolfo Medina a écrit : Some months ago I tried many times to install Debian on my Debian Acer One ... [*MASSIVE* SNIP] Did you try all combinations of the following ? - BIOS/legacy boot mode

Re: ifconfig network resolution

2017-06-10 Thread Joel Rees
On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 8:16 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 10/06/2017 à 12:13, Joel Rees a écrit : >> >> On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 3:52 PM, Pascal Hambourg >> wrote: >>> >>> Le 10/06/2017 à 03:57, Joel Rees a écrit : ifconfig eth0 netmask 255.255.255.224 netmask 255.255.255.224

Re: Reply-to-all or reply-to-list again

2017-06-10 Thread Joel Rees
On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 10:52 PM, Fungi4All wrote: > UTC Time: June 10, 2017 2:13 AM > > From: joel.r...@gmail.com > > On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 12:57 AM, Nicolas George wrote: >> Le primidi 21 prairial, an CCXXV, The Wanderer a écrit : >>> Disagreed. This results in sending extra copies to people

Re: Reply-to-all or reply-to-list again

2017-06-10 Thread Fungi4All
UTC Time: June 10, 2017 2:13 AM From: joel.r...@gmail.com On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 12:57 AM, Nicolas George wrote: > Le primidi 21 prairial, an CCXXV, The Wanderer a écrit : >> Disagreed. This results in sending extra copies to people who are >> subscribed to the list, which is incorrect. > > Not

Re: initramfs-tools - forgotten change?

2017-06-10 Thread Hans
Hi Ben, I believe, this is what happened: Most people will have /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume file, which has a "RESUME=" content. So it will be the same, as set in initramfs.conf. This "resume"-file (I believe, but I am not sure!) was some day created by package uswsusp (If I am wrong

Re: Choose between amd64 and i386

2017-06-10 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Pascal Hambourg writes: > Le 07/06/2017 à 10:33, Rodolfo Medina a écrit : >> Some months ago I tried many times to install Debian on my Debian Acer One (tablet and laptop together) but always failed. I used debian-8.7.1-amd64-netinst.iso. Now we have debian-8.8.0-amd64-netin

Re: Compiler segfault when building the kernel

2017-06-10 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi
On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 7:58 AM, Celejar wrote: > Any ideas? Is this a bug I should be filing against kernel-package (or > anywhere else)? Two things 1) Does the problem go away if you upgrade to the latest compiler? Based on the error message, I believe you are using gcc 4.9? But it is not clear

Re: TCP proxy for host on subnet

2017-06-10 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 11:54:17AM +0100, Ron Leach wrote: > On 06/06/2017 18:03, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > > >Once you're ready to deploy it, you would want to set it up as an > >automatically respawning service, under systemd or one of the other > >se

Re: Debian installation issues

2017-06-10 Thread Richard Owlett
On 06/09/2017 03:37 PM, Michael Fothergill wrote: On 9 June 2017 at 20:59, Fungi4All wrote: Here is some relevant reading of installing linux system besides Win8 and in some cases the same problem exists on Win 10. https://askubuntu.com/questions/221835/installing-ubuntu-alongside-a-pre- insta

Stretch, WIFI connection failed with aborting authentication with ... by local choice (Reason: 3=DEAUTH_LEAVING)

2017-06-10 Thread Yann Cohen
Hello, First of all, I introduce myself. I am a "middle age" debian user : I began with Sarge and all my personals computers (wife's, daughter's, son's, domestic servers) run under Debian. Usually, I use my native language (french) for requesting some assitance about my issues. But today, it seem

initramfs-tools - forgotten change?

2017-06-10 Thread Hans
Dear list and developers, due to the changes in initramfs-tools between 0.128 and 0.130, I wondered, why there is no "RESUME=" variable set in the default config of initramfs-tools (/ etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf) I would have expected, that there is a default setting with a small explan

Re: ifconfig network resolution

2017-06-10 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 10/06/2017 à 12:13, Joel Rees a écrit : On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 3:52 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 10/06/2017 à 03:57, Joel Rees a écrit : ifconfig eth0 netmask 255.255.255.224 netmask 255.255.255.224 broadcast 10.19.23.223 10.19.23.94 But the command returns with SIOCSIFNETMASK: Can

Re: TCP proxy for host on subnet

2017-06-10 Thread Ron Leach
On 06/06/2017 18:03, Greg Wooledge wrote: Once you're ready to deploy it, you would want to set it up as an automatically respawning service, under systemd or one of the other service managers. I seem to be having a problem stopping socat under Wheezy LTS using /etc/init.d. I've created a s

Re: Downgrading specific packages with apt

2017-06-10 Thread Hans
Hi, I made best progress by using aptitude. However, you have to look at the dependencies yourself. How to handle: - Start aptitude with ncurses gui. - Mark the required to the former available version. - Look at the dependencies, you my have to set the dependend libs also to former versions

Re: Downgrading specific packages with apt

2017-06-10 Thread Dejan Jocic
On 10-06-17, solitone wrote: > On Saturday, 10 June 2017 05:45:22 CEST Fungi4All wrote: > > apt > > > > Hold a package: > > sudo apt-mark hold > > > > Remove the hold: > > sudo apt-mark unhold > > That's ok. I can then: > $ sudo apt upgrade > to upgrade that package to the latest available v

Re: ifconfig network resolution

2017-06-10 Thread Joel Rees
On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 3:52 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 10/06/2017 à 03:57, Joel Rees a écrit : >> >> Experimenting from the command line, I find myself puzzled about the >> arguments for ifconfig. >> >> Reading the manual, it would appear that the arguments for ifconfig >> should be somethin

Re: Downgrading specific packages with apt

2017-06-10 Thread solitone
--- Begin Message --- UTC Time: June 10, 2017 9:55 AM From: solit...@mail.com On Saturday, 10 June 2017 05:45:22 CEST Fungi4All wrote: > apt > > Hold a package: > sudo apt-mark hold > > Remove the hold: > sudo apt-mark unhold That's ok. I can then: $ sudo apt upgrade to upgrade that package to

Re: Downgrading specific packages with apt

2017-06-10 Thread solitone
On Saturday, 10 June 2017 05:45:22 CEST Fungi4All wrote: > apt > > Hold a package: > sudo apt-mark hold > > Remove the hold: > sudo apt-mark unhold That's ok. I can then: $ sudo apt upgrade to upgrade that package to the latest available version. But my question was: once I've upgrated it,

Re: Downgrading specific packages with apt

2017-06-10 Thread Fungi4All
UTC Time: June 10, 2017 7:42 AM From: solit...@mail.com On Friday, 9 June 2017 23:38:40 CEST Jimmy Johnson wrote: > I've never downgrade using apt, but with synaptic it's not too hard, Hi Jimmy, and thanks for your reply. I'm under Plasma Desktop, so I don't have synaptic--I use KDE's Discover. A

Re: Debian installation issues

2017-06-10 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, > In linux alone the MBR is unnecessary and boot info can be stored in > each partition and be handled by grub or lilo.  Correct? Not really. A hard-disk-like device that is bootable via BIOS or EFI must have an MBR. For BIOS because of the x86 prgram. For EFI because of the need for a partit

Re: Debian installation issues

2017-06-10 Thread Fungi4All
UTC Time: June 10, 2017 8:19 AM From: pas...@plouf.fr.eu.org Le 10/06/2017 à 10:07, Fungi4All a écrit : > From: scdbac...@gmx.net > > To boot from hard disk or USB stick, there must be a Master Boot Record. > > In linux alone the MBR is unnecessary and boot info can be stored in > each partition a

Re: Debian installation issues

2017-06-10 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 10/06/2017 à 10:07, Fungi4All a écrit : From: scdbac...@gmx.net To boot from hard disk or USB stick, there must be a Master Boot Record. In linux alone the MBR is unnecessary and boot info can be stored in each partition and be handled by grub or lilo. Correct? Not correct. A MBR is necess

Re: Debian installation issues

2017-06-10 Thread Fungi4All
Original Message Subject: Re: Debian installation issues UTC Time: June 10, 2017 7:16 AM From: scdbac...@gmx.net Hi, by mistake Fungi4All and i exchanged a few mails in private. I put this back to the list (although it could deserve a new topic). He showed me a xorriso report o

Re: Downgrading specific packages with apt

2017-06-10 Thread solitone
On Friday, 9 June 2017 23:38:40 CEST Jimmy Johnson wrote: > I've never downgrade using apt, but with synaptic it's not too hard, Hi Jimmy, and thanks for your reply. I'm under Plasma Desktop, so I don't have synaptic--I use KDE's Discover. Although I use it only for automatic updates. For instal

Re: Debian installation issues

2017-06-10 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, by mistake Fungi4All and i exchanged a few mails in private. I put this back to the list (although it could deserve a new topic). He showed me a xorriso report of a MS-Windows "ISO" (which we now know is actually an UDF filesystem), and i stated the same as with my reply here to Dan Ritter: