Re: How stable is the frozen stretch?

2017-05-16 Thread deloptes
Fungi4All wrote: > The best thing about manjaro is that it is not ubuntu (which is like > Debian in drag without a personality) and I don't dare even look at > someone's machine that mentions mint. Ubuntu to me is like a Porsche 914, > a VW beatle mascaraded into a sports car. I'll just go with Fi

repo signing key for wheezy is dead?

2017-05-16 Thread Gene Heskett
Meaning this is the end of wheezy support? Or can I get a new key? Thanks. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page

Re: How stable is the frozen stretch?

2017-05-16 Thread Ric Moore
On 05/16/2017 11:04 PM, SDA wrote: On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 08:50:45AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: *ROFL!* ;/ I've been a computer _user_ for a half-century. About 5 years ago I started seriously plotting my escape from the gloppy GUI of an organization recently in the news. I investigated "Li

Re: How stable is the frozen stretch?

2017-05-16 Thread SDA
On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 08:50:45AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > *ROFL!* ;/ > I've been a computer _user_ for a half-century. > About 5 years ago I started seriously plotting my escape from the gloppy GUI > of an organization recently in the news. > I investigated "Linux from Scratch", Slackwa

Re: How stable is the frozen stretch?

2017-05-16 Thread Fungi4All
I've been cheating after years of being a debian purist. I do like lxde and often plain openbox with my custom panel. But in recent times have brought me various frustrations with deb... particularly with resolv.conf acting as it has a mind of its own and vanishing my set of dns collections and

Re: How stable is the frozen stretch?

2017-05-16 Thread Felix Miata
Richard Owlett composed on 2017-05-16 06:17 (UTC-0500): > On 05/15/2017 02:06 PM, deloptes wrote: >> I wouldn't use dedicated boot partition in your case. For testing >> you can leave all on one partition. If you use dedicated boot >> partition and want to share it among different installs - watc

Re: (solved)Re: how to copy files

2017-05-16 Thread Joe
On Tue, 16 May 2017 22:08:35 +0200 wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 05:27:24PM +0100, Joe wrote: > > On Tue, 16 May 2017 19:18:16 +0800 > > Long Wind wrote: > > > > > Thank Lisi Reisz, Greg Wooledge and Dejan Jocic! > > > > > > I have tr

Re: (solved)Re: how to copy files

2017-05-16 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 05:27:24PM +0100, Joe wrote: > On Tue, 16 May 2017 19:18:16 +0800 > Long Wind wrote: > > > Thank Lisi Reisz, Greg Wooledge and Dejan Jocic! > > > > I have try -ar options, it displays some files names > > I am not sure weth

Re: How stable is the frozen stretch?

2017-05-16 Thread deloptes
Thanatos Incarnate wrote: > My 2 cents: If you're used to Debian Stable level stability, then > Testing might get on your nerves with its tiny little paper cuts > (Firefox crashing, Thunderbird not knowing what to do with your Icedove > profile, KDE having GUI elements that follow your set theme,

Re: UEFI + Raid

2017-05-16 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 16/05/2017 à 19:40, Pascal Hambourg a écrit : Le 16/05/2017 à 19:12, Sam Smith a écrit : On 05/11/2017 12:21 AM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Also, when using the default ID ("debian"), it deletes any existing EFI boot entry whose name contains "debian" (case insensitive IIRC). I've used this n

Re: UEFI + Raid

2017-05-16 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 16/05/2017 à 19:12, Sam Smith a écrit : On 05/11/2017 12:21 AM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Also, when using the default ID ("debian"), it deletes any existing EFI boot entry whose name contains "debian" (case insensitive IIRC). I've used this now: grub-install -v --target=x86_64-efi --bootlo

Re: UEFI + Raid

2017-05-16 Thread Sam Smith
On 05/11/2017 12:21 AM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 11/05/2017 à 00:53, Sam Smith a écrit : On 05/09/2017 05:44 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Or use grub-install with --removable and --efi-directory for each disk. Or use grub-install with --efi-directory and --bootloader-id to install a copy of GRU

Re: How stable is the frozen stretch?

2017-05-16 Thread David Wright
On Tue 16 May 2017 at 08:58:27 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 05/16/2017 06:26 AM, Darac Marjal wrote: > >On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 06:17:38AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > >>On 05/15/2017 02:06 PM, deloptes wrote: > >>>Richard Owlett wrote: > >>> > >> > >>> > >>>mkdir test && cd test && zcat /

Re: (solved)Re: how to copy files

2017-05-16 Thread Joe
On Tue, 16 May 2017 19:18:16 +0800 Long Wind wrote: > Thank Lisi Reisz, Greg Wooledge and Dejan Jocic! > > I have try -ar options, it displays some files names > I am not sure wether it check files or copy files > and it complains of ownership (because of vfat?) > > clear confusion above take

Re: How stable is the frozen stretch?

2017-05-16 Thread Richard Owlett
On 05/16/2017 06:26 AM, Darac Marjal wrote: On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 06:17:38AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: On 05/15/2017 02:06 PM, deloptes wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: mkdir test && cd test && zcat /boot/initrd.img-`uname -r` | cpio -Hnewc -i I may not be "prophet or son of a prophet"

Wrong mtimes on memory card, mount -o tz=UTC ineffectual

2017-05-16 Thread Andre Majorel
The mtimes of the files on a VFAT file system on a memory card used by a digicam are off by two hours. My time zone is CEST, which is two hours ahead of UTC so I thought that mounting the file system with -o tz=UTC might fix that. It doesn't. In fact, in makes no difference whatsoever. Apparently

Re: How stable is the frozen stretch?

2017-05-16 Thread Richard Owlett
On 05/16/2017 06:22 AM, Thanatos Incarnate wrote: Hello there, Hi right back ;} My 2 cents: If you're used to Debian Stable level stability, then Testing might get on your nerves with its tiny little paper cuts (Firefox crashing, Thunderbird not knowing what to do with your Icedove profile,

Re: How stable is the frozen stretch?

2017-05-16 Thread Darac Marjal
On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 06:17:38AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: On 05/15/2017 02:06 PM, deloptes wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: mkdir test && cd test && zcat /boot/initrd.img-`uname -r` | cpio -Hnewc -i I may not be "prophet or son of a prophet", but I see a "lab practical" on parsing in

Re: How stable is the frozen stretch?

2017-05-16 Thread Thanatos Incarnate
Hello there, My 2 cents: If you're used to Debian Stable level stability, then Testing might get on your nerves with its tiny little paper cuts (Firefox crashing, Thunderbird not knowing what to do with your Icedove profile, KDE having GUI elements that follow your set theme, but then also o

(solved)Re: how to copy files

2017-05-16 Thread Long Wind
Thank Lisi Reisz, Greg Wooledge and Dejan Jocic! I have try -ar options, it displays some files names I am not sure wether it check files or copy files and it complains of ownership (because of vfat?) clear confusion above take time and effort I decide I can write a java program that list two f

Re: How stable is the frozen stretch?

2017-05-16 Thread Richard Owlett
On 05/15/2017 02:06 PM, deloptes wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: On 05/14/2017 06:46 AM, David Wright wrote: On Sun 14 May 2017 at 04:57:07 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: On 05/14/2017 02:40 AM, Joe wrote: On Sat, 13 May 2017 20:54:04 -0400 RavenLX wrote: On 05/13/2017 12:40 PM, Richard Owle

Re: Trouble importing gpg keys in stretch

2017-05-16 Thread Frank
Op 16-05-17 om 11:53 schreef Peter Miller: Frank, Yes, they do, but associated with Wheezy and Jessie, by the looks? /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/debian-archive-wheezy-automatic.gpg -- pub rsa4096 2012-04-27 [SC] [expires: 2020-04-25] A

Re: Re: Trouble importing gpg keys in stretch

2017-05-16 Thread Peter Miller
Frank, Yes, they do, but associated with Wheezy and Jessie, by the looks? /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/debian-archive-wheezy-automatic.gpg -- pub rsa4096 2012-04-27 [SC] [expires: 2020-04-25] A1BD 8E9D 78F7 FE5C 3E65 D8AF 8B48 AD62 4692 5