Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot

2017-04-19 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 20/04/2017 à 04:10, David Wright a écrit : AFAICT cards that can boot appear later as: $ ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/ [edited] usb-General_Combo_CardMMC_SD_12345678-0:0 -> ../../sdb usb-General_Combo_CardMMC_SD_12345678-0:0-part1 -> ../../sdb1 usb-General_Combo_CardMMC_SD_12345678-0:0-

Re: Debian hardware compatibility

2017-04-19 Thread John Elliot V
On 20/04/17 10:33, Ben Caradoc-Davies wrote: > why not just install stretch from RC3? stretch is close to release. Sounds like a good idea! Thanks Ben. Will stretch RC3 smoothly transition to stable (with an apt-get dist-upgrade) when stretch is released? > HD 630 iGPU is working fine for me wit

Re: Secure boot - Uefi installation

2017-04-19 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 20/04/2017 à 00:44, Mark Fletcher a écrit : On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 08:53:52PM +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 18/04/2017 à 01:21, Mark Fletcher a écrit : I believe the live images only use MBR boot BIOS boot. Pedant. Pleased to meet you. I'm Pascal. You knew exactly what I meant.

Re: Proper folder for non-Debian binaries

2017-04-19 Thread Felix Miata
Ben Finney composed on 2017-04-20 13:53 (UTC+1000): > Felix Miata wrote: >> Denying an admin the right to create other directories in the root of >> /usr/local/ makes no sense to me. > It makes sense in the context of “this space reserved for future use”. > The operating system reserves some na

Re: Encrypted RAID1 for storage with Debian Jessie

2017-04-19 Thread David Christensen
On 04/18/2017 07:06 PM, commentsab...@riseup.net wrote: Is there an easy way to attach several pair of RAID1 disks (with full disk encryption) to a Debian Jessie system? Here is a picture of what I'm trying to achieve: http://imgur.com/vF7IqX2 I am building a home backup system, I have differen

Re: Proper folder for non-Debian binaries

2017-04-19 Thread Ben Finney
Felix Miata writes: > Denying an admin the right to create other directories in the root of > /usr/local/ makes no sense to me. It makes sense in the context of “this space reserved for future use”. The operating system reserves some name spaces – including the root directory – to allow newer v

Re: Proper folder for non-Debian binaries

2017-04-19 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
On 20/04/17 05:56, Nicolas George wrote: Le decadi 30 germinal, an CCXXV, Felix Miata a écrit : /usr/local/, like so: The directory you are looking for is /opt. On my Debian machine: $ ls -al /opt total 20 drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 Apr 15 19:48 ./ drwxr-xr-x 22 root root 4096 Apr 15 13:09

Re: Proper folder for non-Debian binaries

2017-04-19 Thread David Wright
On Wed 19 Apr 2017 at 15:06:11 (-0400), Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > On 4/19/17, David Wright wrote: > > On Wed 19 Apr 2017 at 13:46:51 (-0400), Felix Miata wrote: > >> Brian composed on 2017-04-19 14:03 (UTC+0100): > >> > >> > On Wed 19 Apr 2017 at 07:30:20 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > >> > >> >>

Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot

2017-04-19 Thread David Wright
On Sat 15 Apr 2017 at 23:21:33 (+0100), Brian wrote: > On Sat 15 Apr 2017 at 16:30:29 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > > On Sat 15 Apr 2017 at 19:57:32 (+0100), Brian wrote: > > > On Sat 15 Apr 2017 at 13:08:30 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > > > > On 04/15/2017 12:24 PM, Brian wrote: > > > >

Re: Secure boot - Uefi installation

2017-04-19 Thread Joel Rees
On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 4:02 AM, Diamantis Karagkiaouris wrote: > I am really pissed off with the installation as it failed miserably. If it fails after disabling UEFI, you probably have a machine with a BIOS that doesn't really disable UEFI when you tell it to nicely. (I hear some won't allow it

Re: Debian hardware compatibility

2017-04-19 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
On 19/04/17 19:52, John Elliot V wrote: I'm getting a new workstation. Proposed specs are here: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/7MCfjc I tried to find out if my new hardware would run Debian stable, but couldn't confirm. CPU is Intel Core i7-7700K on an Asus STRIX Z270F mobo. I'm planning to dr

Re: If Linux Is About Choice, Why Then ...

2017-04-19 Thread Joel Rees
On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 12:41 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 18 April 2017 11:00:34 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > >> [...] >> In the past at least, HP hosted and provided servers and bandwidth for >> critical Debian build infrastructure, and (still) sponsor a group >> subscription to LWN for Deb

Re: Proper folder for non-Debian binaries

2017-04-19 Thread Felix Miata
David Wright composed on 2017-04-19 13:25 (UTC-0500): > On Wed 19 Apr 2017 at 13:46:51 (-0400), Felix Miata wrote: >> /usr/local/, like so: >> # ls -gG /usr/local/ >> drwxr-xr-x 2 4096 Mar 2 01:17 bin >> drwxr-xr-x 3 4096 Dec 28 03:58 Brother >> drwxrwxr-x 2 4096 Mar 31 11:51 dfsee >> drwx

Re: Debian man pages - mechanics of creation/publication?

2017-04-19 Thread Ben Finney
Richard Owlett writes: > I've an idea for something to be added to some man pages. > It has not risen even the "wishlist bug" stage yet. With such vague description, answers can only be very vague and won't address specifics of what you hope to do. > To rise that far I have to convince myself t

Re: Secure boot - Uefi installation

2017-04-19 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 08:53:52PM +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 18/04/2017 à 01:21, Mark Fletcher a écrit : > > > >I believe the live images only use MBR boot > > BIOS boot. > Pedant. You knew exactly what I meant.

Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot

2017-04-19 Thread Richard Owlett
On 04/19/2017 02:31 PM, Brian wrote: On Wed 19 Apr 2017 at 20:39:35 +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 19/04/2017 à 00:27, Brian a écrit : On Wed 19 Apr 2017 at 00:12:15 +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 18/04/2017 à 21:14, Brian a écrit : However, my main point was that the kernel identifyin

(OT) Phishing with Unicode Domains

2017-04-19 Thread Curt
In Firefox about:config, setting "network.IDN_show_punycode" to true is the workaround for the moment (works on the proof-of-concept example at least). -- "It might be a vision--of a shell, of a wheelbarrow, of a fairy kingdom on the far side of the hedge; or it might be the glory of speed; no on

Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot

2017-04-19 Thread Brian
On Wed 19 Apr 2017 at 20:39:35 +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 19/04/2017 à 00:27, Brian a écrit : > >On Wed 19 Apr 2017 at 00:12:15 +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > > > >>Le 18/04/2017 à 21:14, Brian a écrit : > >>> > >>>However, my main point was that the kernel > >>>identifying a card as a /d

Re: Proper folder for non-Debian binaries

2017-04-19 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 4/19/17, David Wright wrote: > On Wed 19 Apr 2017 at 13:46:51 (-0400), Felix Miata wrote: >> Brian composed on 2017-04-19 14:03 (UTC+0100): >> >> > On Wed 19 Apr 2017 at 07:30:20 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: >> >> >> I wish to use SeaMonkey's Linux executable to maintain maximum >> >> compatibi

Re: Secure boot - Uefi installation

2017-04-19 Thread Diamantis Karagkiaouris
I am really pissed off with the installation as it failed miserably. It asks me if i want to force uefi and then it fails on grub configuration. In opensuse i didnt have this issue. I really like the idea of hands on but this is nonsense. In every upgrade of debian testing should i cross my fingers

Re: Secure boot - Uefi installation

2017-04-19 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 18/04/2017 à 01:21, Mark Fletcher a écrit : I believe the live images only use MBR boot BIOS boot.

Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot

2017-04-19 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 19/04/2017 à 00:27, Brian a écrit : On Wed 19 Apr 2017 at 00:12:15 +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Le 18/04/2017 à 21:14, Brian a écrit : However, my main point was that the kernel identifying a card as a /dev/sdX disk does not imply it will necessarily be visible to GRUB and bootable by it.

Re: Efficiently finding information 'known' to exist "somewhere"

2017-04-19 Thread davidson
On Wed, 19 Apr 2017, Richard Owlett wrote: I've had two instances recently. I've found the "immediately" needed information, but they are samples of more generic problems. 1. Today's problem was easily solved. I had seen a post discussing an application of the "tree" command. When I tried it,

Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot

2017-04-19 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 19/04/2017 à 09:46, GiaThnYgeia a écrit : Question: You have a system with everything on a HD /dev/sda, you use /dev/sdb a live disk to boot and install debian on /dev/sdc including the grub on /dev/sdc You unplug the live disk and reboot, what will grub do by default, what systems will it s

Re: Proper folder for non-Debian binaries

2017-04-19 Thread David Wright
On Wed 19 Apr 2017 at 13:46:51 (-0400), Felix Miata wrote: > Brian composed on 2017-04-19 14:03 (UTC+0100): > > > On Wed 19 Apr 2017 at 07:30:20 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > > >> I wish to use SeaMonkey's Linux executable to maintain maximum > >> compatibility > >> with my Windows machine. >

spam to aliases and system accounts

2017-04-19 Thread Daniel Pocock
When people install Debian (or any distro), they usually get a bunch of entries in /etc/aliases and various system accounts (/etc/passwd entries with UID < 1000) created by the packages they install. I've noticed an increase in spammers targeting some of the more common ones. Can the number of

Re: Proper folder for non-Debian binaries

2017-04-19 Thread Nicolas George
Le decadi 30 germinal, an CCXXV, Felix Miata a écrit : > /usr/local/, like so: The directory you are looking for is /opt. Symlinks from /usr/local to the latest version in /opt are often a good idea. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Proper folder for non-Debian binaries

2017-04-19 Thread Felix Miata
Brian composed on 2017-04-19 14:03 (UTC+0100): > On Wed 19 Apr 2017 at 07:30:20 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: >> I wish to use SeaMonkey's Linux executable to maintain maximum compatibility >> with my Windows machine. >> Using https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard as a guide

Re: Efficiently finding information 'known' to exist "somewhere"

2017-04-19 Thread David Wright
On Wed 19 Apr 2017 at 08:59:18 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > I've had two instances recently. I've found the "immediately" needed > information, but they are samples of more generic problems. > > 1. Today's problem was easily solved. I had seen a post discussing > an application of the "tree" c

Re: Debian hardware compatibility

2017-04-19 Thread Joshua Schaeffer
I don't think you'll have any issue with that set of hardware. If you've never done water cooling before then you'll be very happy with your H80i purchase. I have a Corsair Hydro H100i in both my Linux and Windows boxes and absolutely love them. I'll never do anything but CPU water cooling anymore.

Re: Efficiently finding information 'known' to exist "somewhere"

2017-04-19 Thread Frank Miles
On Wed, 19 Apr 2017 16:10:01 +0200, Richard Owlett wrote: > I've had two instances recently. I've found the "immediately" needed > information, but they are samples of more generic problems. > > 1. Today's problem was easily solved. I had seen a post discussing an > application of the "tree" co

Re: Encrypted RAID1 for storage with Debian Jessie

2017-04-19 Thread Joshua Schaeffer
As already stated LUKS and mdadm are a good combination. I too use these in all my recent systems. I Create RAID volumes, then LVM, then cryptsetup: = + mdamd + + | + +LVM + + | + + LUKS + + | + +ext4+ = I can't speak to your syst

Re: Debian man pages - mechanics of creation/publication?

2017-04-19 Thread songbird
Richard Owlett wrote: > I've an idea for something to be added to some man pages. > It has not risen even the "wishlist bug" stage yet. > To rise that far I have to convince myself that the modification of so > many existing man pages could be automated. > > A web search turned up very low level d

Re: Efficiently finding information 'known' to exist "somewhere"

2017-04-19 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 19 Apr 2017, Richard Owlett wrote: > However that is not always the case. Some months ago I got a "command not > found" message for a command that had a man page (do not recall the specific > command). It turned out it was one utility command among many provided by a > package with an unrel

Re: Efficiently finding information 'known' to exist "somewhere"

2017-04-19 Thread Brian
On Wed 19 Apr 2017 at 08:59:18 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > 2. There are many commands whose man pages point to using the "info" > command. I personally find that format more annoying than useful. I would > prefer to access the TeXInfo formatted document and convert it locally to > desired forma

Re: Efficiently finding information 'known' to exist "somewhere"

2017-04-19 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 08:59:18AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > I've had two instances recently. I've found the "immediately" needed > information, but they are samples of more generic problems. > > 1. Today's problem was easily solved. I had seen a

Re: Efficiently finding information 'known' to exist "somewhere"

2017-04-19 Thread Darac Marjal
On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 08:59:18AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: I've had two instances recently. I've found the "immediately" needed information, but they are samples of more generic problems. 1. Today's problem was easily solved. I had seen a post discussing an application of the "tree" comma

Re: unattended upgrades does not do anything

2017-04-19 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 18 April 2017 15:55:25 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > If you Lisi revisit this and it doesn't work, I could try to help. Thanks, Jonathan. I may therefore revisit it later this week! :-) Lisi

Efficiently finding information 'known' to exist "somewhere"

2017-04-19 Thread Richard Owlett
I've had two instances recently. I've found the "immediately" needed information, but they are samples of more generic problems. 1. Today's problem was easily solved. I had seen a post discussing an application of the "tree" command. When I tried it, I got "command not found". In _this_ case i

Re: Debian man pages - mechanics of creation/publication?

2017-04-19 Thread David Wright
On Wed 19 Apr 2017 at 08:25:31 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 04/19/2017 06:59 AM, Peter Ludikovsky wrote: > >On 04/19/2017 01:40 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: > >>I've an idea for something to be added to some man pages. > >>It has not risen even the "wishlist bug" stage yet. > >>To rise that far

Re: Debian man pages - mechanics of creation/publication?

2017-04-19 Thread songbird
Richard Owlett wrote: > I've an idea for something to be added to some man pages. > It has not risen even the "wishlist bug" stage yet. > To rise that far I have to convince myself that the modification of so > many existing man pages could be automated. > > A web search turned up very low level d

Re: Debian man pages - mechanics of creation/publication?

2017-04-19 Thread Richard Owlett
On 04/19/2017 06:59 AM, Peter Ludikovsky wrote: On 04/19/2017 01:40 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: I've an idea for something to be added to some man pages. It has not risen even the "wishlist bug" stage yet. To rise that far I have to convince myself that the modification of so many existing man pag

Re: Proper folder for non-Debian binaries

2017-04-19 Thread Brian
On Wed 19 Apr 2017 at 07:30:20 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > I wish to use SeaMonkey's Linux executable to maintain maximum compatibility > with my Windows machine. > > Using https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard as a guide > I see several possible folders. > > What is Deb

Proper folder for non-Debian binaries

2017-04-19 Thread Richard Owlett
I wish to use SeaMonkey's Linux executable to maintain maximum compatibility with my Windows machine. Using https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard as a guide I see several possible folders. What is Debian's preferred folder for executables available to all users. TIA

Re: Debian man pages - mechanics of creation/publication?

2017-04-19 Thread Peter Ludikovsky
On 04/19/2017 01:40 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: > I've an idea for something to be added to some man pages. > It has not risen even the "wishlist bug" stage yet. > To rise that far I have to convince myself that the modification of so > many existing man pages could be automated. > > A web search tu

Debian man pages - mechanics of creation/publication?

2017-04-19 Thread Richard Owlett
I've an idea for something to be added to some man pages. It has not risen even the "wishlist bug" stage yet. To rise that far I have to convince myself that the modification of so many existing man pages could be automated. A web search turned up very low level details but not the need overvie

Re: Debian hardware compatibility

2017-04-19 Thread Dan Purgert
John Elliot V wrote: > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > --50ECA958FA859516FB3191E9 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > I'm getting a new workstation. Proposed specs are here: > > https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/7MCfjc > > I tri

Re: Encrypted RAID1 for storage with Debian Jessie

2017-04-19 Thread tv.deb...@googlemail.com
On 19/04/2017 05:06, commentsab...@riseup.net wrote: Hello, Is there an easy way to attach several pair of RAID1 disks (with full disk encryption) to a Debian Jessie system? Here is a picture of what I'm trying to achieve: http://imgur.com/vF7IqX2 I am building a home backup system, I have dif

Debian hardware compatibility

2017-04-19 Thread John Elliot V
I'm getting a new workstation. Proposed specs are here: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/7MCfjc I tried to find out if my new hardware would run Debian stable, but couldn't confirm. CPU is Intel Core i7-7700K on an Asus STRIX Z270F mobo. I'm planning to drive two monitors from the onboard graph

Re: Possibly erroneous "device not present" message during boot

2017-04-19 Thread GiaThnYgeia
The Wanderer: > On 2017-04-18 at 15:42, Brian wrote: > >> On Tue 18 Apr 2017 at 20:55:43 +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote: >> >>> Le 17/04/2017 à 22:46, GiaThnYgeia a écrit : I hope this makes some sense to someone. >>> >>> Not to me. TL;DR. Question: You have a system with everything on a