Re: DD bs=4M option on USB mem-stick creates false format

2017-03-28 Thread songbird
Thomas Schmitt wrote: > songbird wrote: >> always give an option to do a dry run without any actual changes >> being made > > But what difference would that make ? just me and a preference to err on the side of caution when dealing with devices that might alter a very basic thing. > If the pr

Re: DD bs=4M option on USB mem-stick creates false format

2017-03-28 Thread songbird
kAt wrote: > All I can say is that I feel honored that some useful code was produced > with my problem statement as an inspiration. > I am doing research on the topic trying to learn all that feels like a > huge gap of how disks and data relate. > > Have a nice day Thomas it is very useful to th

Re: Future upgrade from Stretch RC2 to release

2017-03-28 Thread songbird
Niclas Arndt wrote: ... > Hi, > > > I am considering changing from OpenSUSE to Debian for my e-mail server but = > I expect a learning curve. I'm sorry if my questions are basic, but please = > bear with me. saying what kind of experience you have so far would help a great deal. i'm assuming yo

Re: Future upgrade from Stretch RC2 to release

2017-03-28 Thread Dan Ritter
On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 07:44:15PM +, Niclas Arndt wrote: > I am considering changing from OpenSUSE to Debian for my e-mail server but I > expect a learning curve. I'm sorry if my questions are basic, but please bear > with me. > > > * Is there any chance that Stretch will be stable by 2017

Re: Wan/Lan problem

2017-03-28 Thread Dan Ritter
On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 04:46:02PM -0700, Mike McClain wrote: > Howdy, > I have a WAN/LAN challenge I'm hoping for help with. > > I'm runniing Debian 7.11 on a Pentium 3 with 250MB ram. > > mike@/deb7:~> uname -a > Linux playground 3.2.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.2.84-2 i686 GNU/Linux > > > The

Future upgrade from Stretch RC2 to release

2017-03-28 Thread Niclas Arndt
Hi, I am considering changing from OpenSUSE to Debian for my e-mail server but I expect a learning curve. I'm sorry if my questions are basic, but please bear with me. * Is there any chance that Stretch will be stable by 2017-05-16 when OpenSUSE Leap 42.1 goes EOL? * Is it advisable to ins

Wan/Lan problem

2017-03-28 Thread Mike McClain
Howdy, I have a WAN/LAN challenge I'm hoping for help with. I'm runniing Debian 7.11 on a Pentium 3 with 250MB ram. mike@/deb7:~> uname -a Linux playground 3.2.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.2.84-2 i686 GNU/Linux The situation is this: phoneeth0 eth1 AT&T---| ||

Re: DD bs=4M option on USB mem-stick creates false format

2017-03-28 Thread kAt
All I can say is that I feel honored that some useful code was produced with my problem statement as an inspiration. I am doing research on the topic trying to learn all that feels like a huge gap of how disks and data relate. Have a nice day Thomas kAt Thomas Schmitt: > Hi, > > i wrote a small

Re: UID mismatch across systems

2017-03-28 Thread Ross Boylan
I made some discoveries on a test system: root@IDTest:/etc# date; usermod -u 204 Debian-exim Tue Mar 28 15:01:19 PDT 2017 usermod: user Debian-exim is currently used by process 664 and this left everything, including the running process and passwd untouched. So I don't have to worry about what h

Re: Samsung ML-1915 printer

2017-03-28 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Brian writes: > On Mon 27 Mar 2017 at 19:57:01 +0100, Brian wrote: > > I give in! Your ULD package doesn't work for you on unstable. Let us see > how mine goes on. Many thanks. I'll be testing everyhing in the next few days and then let you know... Let's hope it's worked out now... Thanks ag

Re: [OT] Re: Issue with notebook (maybe the battery?)

2017-03-28 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 06:47:58PM +0100, Joe wrote: > On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 14:14:15 -0300 > Daniel Bareiro wrote: > > > Hi, Joe. > > > > > > > >> Do you think the problem might be in the charger? > > > > > Yes, certainly. That's why I said it's

Re: zenity --text-info autoscrolling?

2017-03-28 Thread Floris
Op Tue, 28 Mar 2017 04:03:20 +0200 schreef Jason : On Sun, 26 Mar 2017 22:03:33 +0200 Floris wrote: Op Fri, 24 Mar 2017 23:33:06 +0100 schreef Jason : In interactive shell scripts I like piping output into zenity --text-info for display. If the output is more than fits in the zenity windo

Re: Issue with notebook (maybe the battery?)

2017-03-28 Thread David Wright
On Tue 28 Mar 2017 at 15:46:36 (-0300), Daniel Bareiro wrote: > I was observing these values: > > > $ upower -i /org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/battery_BAT0 > (...) > battery > (...) > percentage: 37% > cap

Re: ipv6 apt issue

2017-03-28 Thread Matt Zagrabelny
On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 1:50 PM, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2017-03-28 13:24 -0500, Matt Zagrabelny wrote: > > > I'm hitting an IPv6 snafu. > > > > I've got a dual stack host and when doing various apt-y things I attempt > to > > connect to: > > > > # apt update > > 0% [Connecting to ftp-chi.osuosl

Re: An INCOMPLETE solution - was [Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?]

2017-03-28 Thread David Wright
On Tue 28 Mar 2017 at 16:10:57 (+), Curt wrote: > On 2017-03-28, David Wright wrote: > > On Sun 26 Mar 2017 at 11:31:57 (+), Curt wrote: > >> On 2017-03-25, David Wright wrote: > >> > On Sat 25 Mar 2017 at 10:50:50 (+), Curt wrote: > >> >> Actually, srcpkgcache.bin includes the inform

Re: ipv6 apt issue

2017-03-28 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2017-03-28 13:24 -0500, Matt Zagrabelny wrote: > I'm hitting an IPv6 snafu. > > I've got a dual stack host and when doing various apt-y things I attempt to > connect to: > > # apt update > 0% [Connecting to ftp-chi.osuosl.org (2600:3402:200:227::2) > > but it hangs and doesn't seem to complete

Re: Issue with notebook (maybe the battery?)

2017-03-28 Thread Daniel Bareiro
Hi, David. On 27/03/17 00:08, David Wright wrote: >>> Complete discharge is instantly fatal, they can never wake up again. >>> All lithium cells have rudimentary electronics to cut off discharge >>> earlier than this, typically 2.8-3.0V per cell. Charging is relatively >>> complex, constant curre

Re: DD bs=4M option on USB mem-stick creates false format

2017-03-28 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, songbird wrote: > always give an option to do a dry run without any actual changes > being made But what difference would that make ? If the program thinks it's not ok, then it will refuse. If it thinks it's ok, then shall the user refrain nevertheless ? Of course it's safer to know what is

ipv6 apt issue

2017-03-28 Thread Matt Zagrabelny
Greetings, I'm hitting an IPv6 snafu. I've got a dual stack host and when doing various apt-y things I attempt to connect to: # apt update 0% [Connecting to ftp-chi.osuosl.org (2600:3402:200:227::2) but it hangs and doesn't seem to complete its connection. If I look at my sources lists: % gre

[OT] Re: Issue with notebook (maybe the battery?)

2017-03-28 Thread Joe
On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 14:14:15 -0300 Daniel Bareiro wrote: > Hi, Joe. > > > >> Do you think the problem might be in the charger? > > > Yes, certainly. That's why I said it's difficult to know what's > > going on without either a known good battery or a known good > > charger. You'd better hop

Re: When specifying path to file - confused about ./ and ~/

2017-03-28 Thread Brian
On Tue 28 Mar 2017 at 13:09:57 -0400, songbird wrote: > kAt wrote: > ... > > I have an example where this might be useful or then I am not > > understanding the difference. > > > > Let's say you have an executable package in the system and let's call it > > pkgX > > If you type pkgX in any prompt

Re: DD bs=4M option on USB mem-stick creates false format

2017-03-28 Thread songbird
Thomas Schmitt wrote: ... > > > See a test run with rescatux ISO on /dev/sdc (any current Debian i386 > or amd64 ISO would be suitable, too). > > Still less dangerous than manipulating /dev files as superuser is > to give the

Re: Deb-Installer: Possible to set IP using a boot parameter?

2017-03-28 Thread Brian
On Tue 28 Mar 2017 at 17:12:30 +0100, Ron Leach wrote: > List, good afternoon, > > Does anyone know whether there is a Debian-Installer boot parameter that > enables a specific, static, IP to be set for use during the installation > process? > > I've checked the Installer guide, s 5.3 boot param

Re: When specifying path to file - confused about ./ and ~/

2017-03-28 Thread songbird
kAt wrote: ... > I have an example where this might be useful or then I am not > understanding the difference. > > Let's say you have an executable package in the system and let's call it > pkgX > If you type pkgX in any prompt then /usr/bin/pkgX will be executed maybe, maybe not (depends upon p

Re: Issue with notebook (maybe the battery?)

2017-03-28 Thread Daniel Bareiro
Hi, Joe. On 27/03/17 16:01, Joe wrote: I remember that when I bought this battery, I was advised to leave the charger plugged in for a little more than an hour after the charging level reaches 100%. And for the subsequent times, try to avoid having the charger plugged in when

Re: Upgrading Jessie to Stretch

2017-03-28 Thread songbird
Michael Lange wrote: ... > I believe that it is probably a good idea to dist-upgrade Jessie into an > up-to-date state before starting the upgrade to Stretch, but it is > certainly a good idea to do the intermediate steps of upgrading Squeeze > to Wheezy first and then to Jessie before starting the

Re: DD bs=4M option on USB mem-stick creates false format

2017-03-28 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > One may well try to manage the stick by a partition editor. Richard Owlett wrote: > Appropriate search terms that would lead to learning "howto"? "linux"-or-"yourdesktop" together with "partition editor". The reason to start this thread was about "gparted". We saw output of "f

Deb-Installer: Possible to set IP using a boot parameter?

2017-03-28 Thread Ron Leach
List, good afternoon, Does anyone know whether there is a Debian-Installer boot parameter that enables a specific, static, IP to be set for use during the installation process? I've checked the Installer guide, s 5.3 boot parameters [1], where a parameter to disable DHCP autoconfig is descri

Re: An INCOMPLETE solution - was [Re: Where is data stored when Synaptic scans DVDs?]

2017-03-28 Thread Curt
On 2017-03-28, David Wright wrote: > On Sun 26 Mar 2017 at 11:31:57 (+), Curt wrote: >> On 2017-03-25, David Wright wrote: >> > On Sat 25 Mar 2017 at 10:50:50 (+), Curt wrote: >> >> Actually, srcpkgcache.bin includes the information contained in the files >> >> in /var/lib/apt/lists; that

Re: DD bs=4M option on USB mem-stick creates false format

2017-03-28 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/28/2017 09:20 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, Richard Owlett wrote: /dev/sdb3 1140736 15130623 13989888 6.7G 83 Linux For the records (as Richard obviously knew it already): If you believe that line, would you like to by a Brooklyn Bridge? It was legitimately for sale in late 196

Re: DD bs=4M option on USB mem-stick creates false format

2017-03-28 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Richard Owlett wrote: > /dev/sdb3 1140736 15130623 13989888 6.7G 83 Linux For the records (as Richard obviously knew it already): After the run of make_isombr_part, the new partition has no filesystem. The commands mkfs or mkdosfs would be the next step, or some GUI tool for managing

Re: Anyone know what this means when running aptitude update?

2017-03-28 Thread Sven Hartge
Mark Fletcher wrote: > On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 09:51:18AM +0200, Sven Hartge wrote: >> Mark Fletcher wrote: >>> Possibly stupid question -- this is Jessie, does this mechanism of >>> dropping the files in trusted.gpg.d work properly in Jessie or is it >>> new? >> It works properly. I have sev

Re: [way off topic] Re: Encrypted flash drives

2017-03-28 Thread David Wright
On Tue 28 Mar 2017 at 12:46:18 (+0200), Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > i wrote: > > > Just wait until you read my alternative facts about the raison d'être > > > of systemd. > > kAt wrote: > > I want to read it > > If you test > > http://scdbackup.webframe.org/make_isombr_part > > as descri

Re: DD bs=4M option on USB mem-stick creates false format

2017-03-28 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 08:41:52AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 03/28/2017 07:17 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > >[snip] > > > >I'd guess there's a difference between Thomas's processor architecture > >and yours. [snip] > > Recompiled for my archit

Re: DD bs=4M option on USB mem-stick creates false format

2017-03-28 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/28/2017 07:17 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [snip] I'd guess there's a difference between Thomas's processor architecture and yours. [snip] Recompiled for my architecture successfully. Did a successful minimal install from my modified flash drive. Operator error or other? It's always

Re: DD bs=4M option on USB mem-stick creates false format

2017-03-28 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/28/2017 07:16 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: [snip] To build your own binary, do in the directory where you have the file make_isombr_part.c : cc -g -Wall -o make_isombr_part make_isombr_part.c This command should end quickly without any messages. If messages appear, then please show them.

Re: Anyone know what this means when running aptitude update?

2017-03-28 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 01:24:59PM +0200, Frank wrote: > Op 28-03-17 om 07:48 schreef Frank: > Mark, > > As it turns out the ID 1397BC53640DB551 refers to a subkey of key > 7721F63BD38B4796. Both seem to be present in google's key file, so I can't > explain why apt ignores one of them. > I'll leav

Re: DD bs=4M option on USB mem-stick creates false format

2017-03-28 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/28/2017 07:16 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: Hi, Richard Owlett wrote: I am running Debian 8.6.0 with MATE desktop. ... bash: /home/richard/Downloads/make_isombr_part: cannot execute binary file: Exec format error Can it be your system is equipped with Debian for architecture i386 ? Yepp ;

Re: Anyone know what this means when running aptitude update?

2017-03-28 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 09:51:18AM +0200, Sven Hartge wrote: > Mark Fletcher wrote: > > > Possibly stupid question -- this is Jessie, does this mechanism of > > dropping the files in trusted.gpg.d work properly in Jessie or is it > > new? > > It works properly. I have several hundred servers as

Re: DD bs=4M option on USB mem-stick creates false format

2017-03-28 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 02:16:24PM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: [...] > http://scdbackup.webframe.org/make_isombr_part.c Yummy source. Now we're talking :-) (trapped at work ATM. But I'll sure look into that) regards - -- t -BEGIN PGP SIGNAT

Re: DD bs=4M option on USB mem-stick creates false format

2017-03-28 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 06:53:08AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 03/28/2017 05:10 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > >[snip] > > > >It would be interesting to see how various partition editors react on > >this state of the USB stick. Can they reduce the s

Re: DD bs=4M option on USB mem-stick creates false format

2017-03-28 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Richard Owlett wrote: > I am running Debian 8.6.0 with MATE desktop. > ... > bash: /home/richard/Downloads/make_isombr_part: cannot execute binary file: > Exec format error Can it be your system is equipped with Debian for architecture i386 ? I forgot to mention that my system is amd64. > O

Re: DD bs=4M option on USB mem-stick creates false format

2017-03-28 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/28/2017 05:10 AM, Thomas Schmitt wrote: [snip] It would be interesting to see how various partition editors react on this state of the USB stick. Can they reduce the size of partition 3 ? Can they remove partition 3 and add on new one ? That looked interesting. As I had a flash drive wi

Re: Anyone know what this means when running aptitude update?

2017-03-28 Thread Frank
Op 28-03-17 om 07:48 schreef Frank: Op 28-03-17 om 00:57 schreef Mark Fletcher: Right, for the key issue, that has taken me right back to where I started: W: There is no public key available for the following key IDs: 1397BC53640DB551 Odd. If you do a web search with that number, you'll find

Re: [off topic] Re: Encrypted flash drives

2017-03-28 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote: > > Just wait until you read my alternative facts about the raison d'être > > of systemd. kAt wrote: > I want to read it If you test http://scdbackup.webframe.org/make_isombr_part as described in https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/03/msg01215.html on your USB stick and

Re: DD bs=4M option on USB mem-stick creates false format

2017-03-28 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, i wrote a small program which shall make a USB stick with isohybrid ISO more digestible for partition editors by removing all partition tables except MBR partitions. It then creates a new partition in the first MBR partition slot which is found with block count 0. usage: ./make_isombr_part

Re: Anyone know what this means when running aptitude update?

2017-03-28 Thread Frank
Op 28-03-17 om 09:54 schreef Sven Hartge: in this case we know this is the ID of Googles key, but my argument still holds in general In general, yes.

Re: Samsung ML-1915 printer

2017-03-28 Thread Brian
On Mon 27 Mar 2017 at 19:57:01 +0100, Brian wrote: > On Mon 27 Mar 2017 at 18:38:25 +0100, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > > > Brian writes: > > > > > The HOWTO looks fine for 2010. In 2017 CUPS has changed but, more > > > importantly for this thread and its sister one at > > > > > > https://lists.deb

Re: Anyone know what this means when running aptitude update?

2017-03-28 Thread Sven Hartge
Frank wrote: > Op 28-03-17 om 00:57 schreef Mark Fletcher: >> Right, for the key issue, that has taken me right back to where I started: >> >> W: There is no public key available for the following key IDs: >> 1397BC53640DB551 > Odd. If you do a web search with that number, you'll find a lot of p

Re: Anyone know what this means when running aptitude update?

2017-03-28 Thread Sven Hartge
Mark Fletcher wrote: > Possibly stupid question -- this is Jessie, does this mechanism of > dropping the files in trusted.gpg.d work properly in Jessie or is it > new? It works properly. I have several hundred servers as proof. Grüße, Sven. -- Sigmentation fault. Core dumped.

Re: libjasper in Stretch

2017-03-28 Thread Sven Hartge
David Griffith wrote: > On Mon, 27 Mar 2017, Sven Hartge wrote: >> David Griffith wrote: >>> I also saw this >>> https://packages.qa.debian.org/j/jasper/news/20170212T221713Z.html, which >>> suggests that the original maintainer has stepped back up. In any case, I >>> should perhaps convert my