Re: programmatically determining the desktop environment of a system

2017-03-16 Thread Dominik George
Hi, >Is there a programmatic way that a piece of software can learn what >desktop environment it is executing in? Short answer: No. Long answer: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/116539/how-to-detect-the-desktop-environment-in-a-bash-script Cheers, Nik

programmatically determining the desktop environment of a system

2017-03-16 Thread Dan Hitt
Is there a programmatic way that a piece of software can learn what desktop environment it is executing in? For example, i'm using xfce, and i can tell that i'm using xfce by clicking on 'Applications' in the top menu bar and there's this item that says 'About Xfce'; if you click on it it it looks

XFCE - move items in notification area

2017-03-16 Thread Alex
How does one move items within the notification area?

Re: Coorperation

2017-03-16 Thread Paul Wise
On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 10:21 AM, 李松林 wrote: > I am a sales from Archermind Technology , we work together with Mstar , > and we want to debug Debian os , If you have a specific issue with Debian, please report a bug about it: https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting If you are not sure which p

Re: 回复: Coorperation

2017-03-16 Thread Michael Milliman
On 03/16/2017 09:21 PM, 李松林 wrote: > Hello, Manager, > > I am a sales from Archermind Technology , we work together with > Mstar , and we want to debug Debian os , > This is a good place to start. Tell us what the problem(s) is/are and there are many people here who may be ab

回复: Coorperation

2017-03-16 Thread 李松林
Hello, Manager, I am a sales from Archermind Technology , we work together with Mstar , and we want to debug Debian os , so can you give me a contact to for further cooperation . Martin Lee Archermind Technology www.archermind.com

Re: Guide(s?) to backup philosophies

2017-03-16 Thread songbird
Stefan Monnier wrote: >> It'd probably be fairly easy to come up with a backup system based on Git >> (probably not good for whole-system backups, but likely workable for >> homedir backups), but I haven't come across such a thing yet. > > Well, for the reference I've now found `bup` which isn't us

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-03-16 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
On 17/03/17 01:09, Celejar wrote: I just checked, and Geany can do both. I always use: geany --new-instance My ~/bin/geany is: #!/bin/bash exec /usr/bin/geany --new-instance "$@" Kind regards, -- Ben Caradoc-Davies Director Transient Software Limited New Zealand

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-03-16 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
On 17/03/17 02:56, Fred wrote: I recommend Nedit. Ah, rectangular cut and paste, how do I miss thee. I abandoned nedit for the allure of scalable fonts (in gedit then geany), but still remember it fondly. Kind regards, -- Ben Caradoc-Davies Director Transient Software Limited

Re: Broken Dell UEFI Firmware?

2017-03-16 Thread Kent West
On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 10:10 AM, Steve McIntyre wrote: > [ Note Reply-To set ] > > Kent West wrote: > > > >I have a new Dell Precision 3620. > > > >I have just installed Jessie on the drive, in UEFI mode, creating a > >separate EFI partition, FAT-formatted, in a GPT partition table. > > > >After

Re: Finding firmware (and SHA sums etc), was Re: Linux Mint, Ubuntu, Arch Linux recognize my Acer Aspire S wifi, debian does not

2017-03-16 Thread Brian
On Thu 16 Mar 2017 at 12:04:14 -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Thu 16 Mar 2017 at 14:05:17 (+0100), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 12:52:00PM +, GiaThnYgeia wrote: > > > Brian: > > > > > > > Documentation dispels ignorance. Dispelling ignorance requires the > > > > co-ope

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-03-16 Thread Joe
On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 09:04:00 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: > On 03/16/2017 07:20 AM, Joe wrote: > > On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 06:38:52 -0500 > > Richard Owlett wrote: > > > >> > >> The two files are nearly identical and need them displayed > >> simultaneously for instant visual comparison. Opening on

Re: Finding firmware (and SHA sums etc), was Re: Linux Mint, Ubuntu, Arch Linux recognize my Acer Aspire S wifi, debian does not

2017-03-16 Thread David Wright
On Thu 16 Mar 2017 at 14:05:17 (+0100), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 12:52:00PM +, GiaThnYgeia wrote: > > Brian: > > > > > Documentation dispels ignorance. Dispelling ignorance requires the > > > co-operation of the user. > > :-) > > > To recapitulate, the purpose of the

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-03-16 Thread rhkramer
On Thursday, March 16, 2017 10:15:06 AM Christian Groessler wrote: > On 03/16/17 15:01, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > Well, I did, and I didn't ;-) That was on the order of 15 years ago. > > Problems that I can remember centered around fonts, font sizes, > > readability, and compatibility with my

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-03-16 Thread John Hasler
rhkramer writes (about Emacs): > That was on the order of 15 years ago. Problems that I can remember > centered around fonts, font sizes, readability... None of those would be problems now. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Suggested edit

2017-03-16 Thread Catherine Gramze
> debian-8.7.1-amd64-CD-1.iso > > The reason I bring this up is because people in support groups and forums as > about why they didn't get a desktop environment, even when they use that > specific CD. That "feature" is not limited to the cd version. It is also in the netinst version and the d

Re: Suggested edit

2017-03-16 Thread Adrian O'Dell
debian-8.7.1-amd64-CD-1.iso The reason I bring this up is because people in support groups and forums as about why they didn't get a desktop environment, even when they use that specific CD. On 03/16/2017 09:35 AM, Steve McIntyre wrote: [ Note Reply-To: set ] On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 06:50

Re: Finding firmware (and SHA sums etc), was Re: Linux Mint, Ubuntu, Arch Linux recognize my Acer Aspire S wifi, debian does not

2017-03-16 Thread Steve McIntyre
David Wright wrote: >But irrespective of that, it would be sensible to make it as easy to >get from page A to http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/i386/iso-cd/ >without any right clicking or rubbing out, in the event that you get >drawn down this path. Whether that's a small proportion of

Re: Broken Dell UEFI Firmware?

2017-03-16 Thread Steve McIntyre
[ Note Reply-To set ] Kent West wrote: > >I have a new Dell Precision 3620. > >I have just installed Jessie on the drive, in UEFI mode, creating a >separate EFI partition, FAT-formatted, in a GPT partition table. > >After install, the "grubx64.efi" file is in in the "\[GUID]\EFI\debian" >directory

Re: Testing CDs for GNOME3, KDE and LXDE are missing from the download page

2017-03-16 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 09:17:49AM +0530, Lone Learner wrote: >On 9 March 2017 at 14:51, Steve McIntyre wrote: >> >> We've stopped building CDs for most purposes - they're just too small >> to be useful in a lot of cases, and have been causing issues for >> users. We also switched to offering the

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-03-16 Thread Christian Groessler
On 03/16/17 15:01, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I did, and I didn't ;-) That was on the order of 15 years ago. Problems that I can remember centered around fonts, font sizes, readability, and compatibility with my past experiences (which, by that time in my life, were mostly Dos / Window edit

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-03-16 Thread Charlie Kravetz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 06:38:52 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: >My environment is Jessie (8.6.0) with MATE desktop. >I require two things: > 1. a search and replace which can include a "newline" in new string. > 2. display/edit 2 files simultaneously *

Re: Suggested edit

2017-03-16 Thread Steve McIntyre
[ Note Reply-To: set ] On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 06:50:47AM -0500, Adrian O'Dell wrote: >Hello, > >I think your download page should clarify that the user should select YES to >the Mirrors question or else no graphical desktop environment can be >installed, thus leaving the user with a console-only

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-03-16 Thread Andreas Ronnquist
On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 08:56:12 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: >On 03/16/2017 07:27 AM, Andreas Ronnquist wrote: >> On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 13:16:19 +0100, >> Andreas Ronnquist wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 06:38:52 -0500, >>> Richard Owlett wrote: >>> My environment is Jessie (8.6.0) with MAT

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-03-16 Thread Fred
On 03/16/2017 04:38 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: My environment is Jessie (8.6.0) with MATE desktop. I require two things: 1. a search and replace which can include a "newline" in new string. 2. display/edit 2 files simultaneously *side by side* MATE's standard editor (Pluma) can handle the first

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-03-16 Thread rhkramer
On Thursday, March 16, 2017 09:47:31 AM to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > Your hunch isn't completely wrong. From Emac's wikipedia page: > > The original EMACS was written in 1976 by David A. Moon and > Guy L. Steele, Jr. as a set of Editor MACroS for the TECO > editor. It was inspired by the

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-03-16 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/16/2017 07:20 AM, Joe wrote: On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 06:38:52 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: My environment is Jessie (8.6.0) with MATE desktop. I require two things: 1. a search and replace which can include a "newline" in new string. 2. display/edit 2 files simultaneously *side by side*

Re: Linux Mint, Ubuntu, Arch Linux recognize my Acer Aspire S wifi, debian does not

2017-03-16 Thread Brian
On Thu 16 Mar 2017 at 04:07:42 +, Dean Valentine wrote: > On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 08:43 Pete Orrall wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Dean Valentine > > wrote: > > > I don't have debian installed on my computer yet, nor can I access the > > > internet with it (because my wifi i

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-03-16 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/16/2017 07:27 AM, Andreas Ronnquist wrote: On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 13:16:19 +0100, Andreas Ronnquist wrote: On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 06:38:52 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: My environment is Jessie (8.6.0) with MATE desktop. I require two things: 1. a search and replace which can include a "newli

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-03-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 16 March 2017 08:09:13 Celejar wrote: > On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 06:38:52 -0500 > > Richard Owlett wrote: > > My environment is Jessie (8.6.0) with MATE desktop. > > I require two things: > > 1. a search and replace which can include a "newline" in new > > string. 2. display/edit 2 files

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-03-16 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 08:33:46AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 03/16/2017 07:13 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > >>Suggestions? > > > >That said, it takes some investment. Some would say it's a > >religion, but there are especially perverse poly

Re: Linux Mint, Ubuntu, Arch Linux recognize my Acer Aspire S wifi, debian does not

2017-03-16 Thread Carl Fink
On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 10:33:22PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Wed 15 Mar 2017 at 23:21:12 (-0400), Carl Fink wrote: > > Not everyone has access to wired networks. I don't, to name just one > > example of a person who does not. My last Debian install, I had to > > use USB networking over my mob

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-03-16 Thread Stefan Monnier
> 1. a search and replace which can include a "newline" in new string. > 2. display/edit 2 files simultaneously *side by side* Really? I find it hard to believe that there could be editors out there which don't satisfy both of those. Of course, I'd recommend Emacs, but really: *any* editor shou

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-03-16 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/16/2017 07:13 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: Suggestions? That said, it takes some investment. Some would say it's a religion, but there are especially perverse polyreligious folks out there: I "am" Vim *and* Emacs (take that ;-) I'll see your "Vim *and* Emacs" and raise you TECO. Not s

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-03-16 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/16/2017 07:09 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Thursday 16 March 2017 11:38:52 Richard Owlett wrote: My environment is Jessie (8.6.0) with MATE desktop. I require two things: 1. a search and replace which can include a "newline" in new string. 2. display/edit 2 files simultaneously *side by si

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-03-16 Thread Richard Owlett
On 03/16/2017 07:09 AM, Celejar wrote: On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 06:38:52 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: My environment is Jessie (8.6.0) with MATE desktop. I require two things: 1. a search and replace which can include a "newline" in new string. 2. display/edit 2 files simultaneously *side by sid

Re: Finding firmware (and SHA sums etc), was Re: Linux Mint, Ubuntu, Arch Linux recognize my Acer Aspire S wifi, debian does not

2017-03-16 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 12:52:00PM +, GiaThnYgeia wrote: > Brian: > > > Documentation dispels ignorance. Dispelling ignorance requires the > > co-operation of the user. :-) > To recapitulate, the purpose of the list as I understand it is not to

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-03-16 Thread John Hasler
tomas writes: > That said, it takes some investment. Some would say it's a religion, > but there are especially perverse polyreligious folks out there: I > "am" Vim *and* Emacs (take that ;-) You are not the only one. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-03-16 Thread John Hasler
Richard Owlett writes: > I require two things: > 1. a search and replace which can include a "newline" in new string. > 2. display/edit 2 files simultaneously *side by side* Emacs. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Finding firmware (and SHA sums etc), was Re: Linux Mint, Ubuntu, Arch Linux recognize my Acer Aspire S wifi, debian does not

2017-03-16 Thread GiaThnYgeia
Brian: > Documentation dispels ignorance. Dispelling ignorance requires the > co-operation of the user. To a well educated ms-windows or apfel-widows to try out and see whether they can live with debian, do you propose a couple of years of studying before they even try a live version? When one 1

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-03-16 Thread Andreas Ronnquist
On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 13:16:19 +0100, Andreas Ronnquist wrote: >On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 06:38:52 -0500, >Richard Owlett wrote: > >>My environment is Jessie (8.6.0) with MATE desktop. >>I require two things: >> 1. a search and replace which can include a "newline" in new string. >> 2. display/edit 2 fi

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-03-16 Thread Joe
On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 06:38:52 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: > My environment is Jessie (8.6.0) with MATE desktop. > I require two things: > 1. a search and replace which can include a "newline" in new string. > 2. display/edit 2 files simultaneously *side by side* > > MATE's standard editor (Pl

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-03-16 Thread Andreas Ronnquist
On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 06:38:52 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: >My environment is Jessie (8.6.0) with MATE desktop. >I require two things: > 1. a search and replace which can include a "newline" in new string. > 2. display/edit 2 files simultaneously *side by side* > >MATE's standard editor (Pluma) c

Re: productivity tips

2017-03-16 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 01:07:47AM +1300, cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: > On Sun, Jan 01, 2017 at 03:02:32PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > > Just show me the editor which takes you to a function's source code > > (yes, even to the C source

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-03-16 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 06:38:52AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > My environment is Jessie (8.6.0) with MATE desktop. > I require two things: > 1. a search and replace which can include a "newline" in new string. > 2. display/edit 2 files simultaneou

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-03-16 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 16 March 2017 11:38:52 Richard Owlett wrote: > My environment is Jessie (8.6.0) with MATE desktop. > I require two things: > 1. a search and replace which can include a "newline" in new string. > 2. display/edit 2 files simultaneously *side by side* > > MATE's standard editor (Pluma

Re: Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-03-16 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 16 Mar 2017 06:38:52 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: > My environment is Jessie (8.6.0) with MATE desktop. > I require two things: > 1. a search and replace which can include a "newline" in new string. > 2. display/edit 2 files simultaneously *side by side* > > MATE's standard editor (Pl

Re: productivity tips

2017-03-16 Thread cbannister
On Sun, Jan 01, 2017 at 03:02:32PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > Just show me the editor which takes you to a function's source code > (yes, even to the C source itself!) within a few keystrokes. U, oh, here we go: http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Browsing_programs_with_tags enjoy. :) -- Th

Re: Finding firmware (and SHA sums etc), was Re: Linux Mint, Ubuntu, Arch Linux recognize my Acer Aspire S wifi, debian does not

2017-03-16 Thread Brian
On Thu 16 Mar 2017 at 03:19:00 +, GiaThnYgeia wrote: > Brian: > > It is also just as easy to find > > https://www.debian.org/CD/ > > and then > > https://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/ > > which leads to > > http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/i386/iso-cd/ > > But he already mentioned

Suitable text editor [NOT word processor] or workaround?

2017-03-16 Thread Richard Owlett
My environment is Jessie (8.6.0) with MATE desktop. I require two things: 1. a search and replace which can include a "newline" in new string. 2. display/edit 2 files simultaneously *side by side* MATE's standard editor (Pluma) can handle the first easily. I see no way to open 2 instances of P

Getting clock_gettime() with CLOCK_TAI to give the right answer

2017-03-16 Thread Edmund Grimley Evans
What's the easiest way of getting a Debian system to know about the offset between TAI and UTC? Presumably something like what's described here for SUSE would work: https://superuser.com/questions/1156693/is-there-a-way-of-getting-correct-clock-tai-on-linux Ideally it would just work out of the

Re: fprintd-enroll

2017-03-16 Thread Laurent Bigonville
Shahryar Afifi > wrote: after i enroll as super user i get the message " enroll resault: enroll compeleted" but when i log in as super user again, shell asks for password not finger authentication. Did you install the libpam-fprintd? It should configure the PA