Re: network setup

2016-12-13 Thread Erwan David
On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 10:08:01PM CET, Greg Wooledge said: > On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 09:02:45PM +, Brian wrote: > > On Tue 13 Dec 2016 at 20:48:46 +0100, Erwan David wrote: > > > Do you think eno167778 will be more useful than eth0 to a new user ? > > > My God, why must I use eno167778, he

Re: Python Alternatives?

2016-12-13 Thread Ben Finney
Joe Pfeiffer writes: > Ben Finney writes: > > > The policy for Python in Debian requires that “/usr/bin/python’ is > > the default Python 2 interpreter, and ‘/usr/bin/python3’ is the > > default Python 3 interpreter. > > > > There is no “default Python interpreter” in Debian. Python 2 and > > Py

Re: Python Alternatives?

2016-12-13 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Ben Finney writes: > Michael Milliman writes: > >> I currently have both Python 2.7 and Python 3.4 installed on my debain >> 8.5 (jessie) system. The default Python interpreter on the system is >> Python 2.7 (as linked by /usr/bin/python). > > The policy for Python in Debian requires that “/usr

Re: network setup

2016-12-13 Thread David Wright
On Tue 13 Dec 2016 at 21:52:15 (+0100), to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 07:44:39PM +, Brian wrote: > > [...] > > > For someone who has been using Debian for many years the position you > > expound is understandable and viable to support [...] > > > But remember new users; d

Re: Black Screen on First Boot

2016-12-13 Thread Felix Miata
Dan Norton composed on 2016-12-13 18:04 (UTC-0500): It's impossible to accurately answer all your questions without knowing your gfxchip (lspci) or display model (hwinfo)... You need a shell prompt, not a grub2 prompt, to run those. Grub doesn't recognize any of those commands, but from hard

Re: current testing

2016-12-13 Thread Felix Miata
Borden Rhodes composed on 2016-12-13 17:20 (UTC-0500): The Intel package driver was already purged from my system. I tried reinstalling it to no use. Purged xwayland, too (which I don't use but nevertheless installed). No help. I've also checked dmesg, messages, Xorg.0.log & syslog and syslog an

Re: Python Alternatives?

2016-12-13 Thread Ben Finney
Michael Milliman writes: > I currently have both Python 2.7 and Python 3.4 installed on my debain > 8.5 (jessie) system. The default Python interpreter on the system is > Python 2.7 (as linked by /usr/bin/python). The policy for Python in Debian requires that “/usr/bin/python’ is the default Py

Re: Python Alternatives?

2016-12-13 Thread deloptes
Michael Milliman wrote: > I currently have both Python 2.7 and Python 3.4 installed on my debain > 8.5 (jessie) system. The default Python interpreter on the system is > Python 2.7 (as linked by /usr/bin/python). I would prefer this default > to be Python 3.4. I can, of course manually change t

Re: Black Screen on First Boot

2016-12-13 Thread Dan Norton
[...] Thanks for the help. I've added more info... It's impossible to accurately answer all your questions without knowing your gfxchip (lspci) or display model (hwinfo)... Grub doesn't recognize any of those commands, but from hard copy: Display adapter: NVIDIAGeForce4 8X AGP ; Display: LG W

Python Alternatives?

2016-12-13 Thread Michael Milliman
I currently have both Python 2.7 and Python 3.4 installed on my debain 8.5 (jessie) system. The default Python interpreter on the system is Python 2.7 (as linked by /usr/bin/python). I would prefer this default to be Python 3.4. I can, of course manually change the link in /usr/bin to point

Re: Re: current testing

2016-12-13 Thread Borden Rhodes
The Intel package driver was already purged from my system. I tried reinstalling it to no use. Purged xwayland, too (which I don't use but nevertheless installed). No help. I've also checked dmesg, messages, Xorg.0.log & syslog and syslog and found nothing out of the ordinary in those logs. It just

Re: Plasma: keyboard crash

2016-12-13 Thread Kent West
On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 1:54 PM, Hans wrote: > > But that is another story. However, is there a way, to restart the > keyboard, > without leaving plasma? When the keyboard crashes, I can still open a > console, > start an onscreen keyboard (ie. kvkbd) and could use the mouse for input. > A simi

Re: network setup

2016-12-13 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 09:02:45PM +, Brian wrote: > On Tue 13 Dec 2016 at 20:48:46 +0100, Erwan David wrote: > > Do you think eno167778 will be more useful than eth0 to a new user ? > My God, why must I use eno167778, he will say? I must change > this to something I like. connection0 looks g

Re: network setup

2016-12-13 Thread Brian
On Tue 13 Dec 2016 at 20:48:46 +0100, Erwan David wrote: > Le 12/13/2016 à 20:44, Brian a écrit : > > On Tue 13 Dec 2016 at 14:40:47 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > > >> On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 01:36:05PM +, Darac Marjal wrote: > >> > >> [...] > >> > >>> https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/So

Re: network setup

2016-12-13 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 07:44:39PM +, Brian wrote: [...] > For someone who has been using Debian for many years the position you > expound is understandable and viable to support [...] > But remember new users; does it really matter to them? The

Re: network setup

2016-12-13 Thread Erwan David
Le 12/13/2016 à 20:44, Brian a écrit : > On Tue 13 Dec 2016 at 14:40:47 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > >> On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 01:36:05PM +, Darac Marjal wrote: >> >> [...] >> >>> https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/ >>> lists three options:

Re: Plasma: keyboard crash

2016-12-13 Thread Hans
The mouse is going on working. It is a software problem. Plasma at all seems unstable, as from time to time it crashes, but is automatically restarting again. But that is another story. However, is there a way, to restart the keyboard, without leaving plasma? When the keyboard crashes, I can

Re: network setup

2016-12-13 Thread Brian
On Tue 13 Dec 2016 at 14:40:47 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 01:36:05PM +, Darac Marjal wrote: > > [...] > > > https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/ > > lists three options: > > Thanks! For someone who has been using

Re: How do I update the plug-ins in WordPress? Followed wiki.debian.org/WordPress. Says I need ftp server.

2016-12-13 Thread Nate Homier
On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 8:44 AM, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote: > On 10/12/2016 23:59, Nate Homier wrote: >> >> Debian 8 server. all updates applied. >> >> Followed carefully the wiki.debian.org/WordPress instructions. Now >> WordPress says askimet plugin needs to be updated, but that ftp fails.

Re: Package update problem...{***SOLVED***}

2016-12-13 Thread Mark Neidorff
On Tuesday, 12/13/16 02:34:00 PM Henning Follmann wrote: > > Good news! I solved the problem. This solution came from the openSUSE > > forums... (just giving credit where credit is due) > > > > As root, in the folder /etc/cron.* (where * is either daily, hourly, etc. > > depending on how often y

Re: Package update problem...{***SOLVED***}

2016-12-13 Thread Henning Follmann
> > > Good news! I solved the problem. This solution came from the openSUSE > forums... (just giving credit where credit is due) > > As root, in the folder /etc/cron.* (where * is either daily, hourly, etc. > depending on how often you want the check to take place): > > 1. Create a file cal

Re: Plasma: keyboard crash

2016-12-13 Thread Mark Neidorff
On Tuesday, 12/13/16 06:48:54 PM Hans wrote: > Oh, sorry, yes of course. > > This is a notebook, running debian testing, proprietrary nvidia driver and > effects active in plasma. > > This behaviour appears from time to time, and it is a little bit annoying > when editing fields on a web page or

Re: Package update problem...{***SOLVED***}

2016-12-13 Thread Mark Neidorff
On Monday, 12/12/16 11:49:01 PM kamaraju kusumanchi wrote: > On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 12:50 PM, Mark Neidorff wrote: > > Sorry to seem stubborn, but I don't consider giving a user account full > > administrative access acceptable, even if there is only one user on the > > system. My reasoning is th

Re: current testing

2016-12-13 Thread Felix Miata
Borden Rhodes composed on 2016-12-13 12:14 (UTC-0500): Thank you for the references, Felix. Unfortunately, nothing you sent is applicable because SDDM doesn't even start in the first place. Computer goes unresponsive when it Which Intel chipset/CPU model do you have? Skylake? Lotsa troubles

Re: current testing

2016-12-13 Thread Felix Miata
Borden Rhodes composed on 2016-12-13 12:52 (UTC-0500): Thank you, Hans. My laptop has an Intel chipset, so nvidia doesn't apply. I think the recommended driver for my chipset is the framebuffer or vesa device, but I may try reinstalling the Intel driver to see if that fixes it. Maybe the appro

Re: current testing

2016-12-13 Thread Borden Rhodes
Thank you, Hans. My laptop has an Intel chipset, so nvidia doesn't apply. I think the recommended driver for my chipset is the framebuffer or vesa device, but I may try reinstalling the Intel driver to see if that fixes it. On 13 December 2016 at 12:37, Hans wrote: > Note, that SDDM does not work

Re: Plasma: keyboard crash

2016-12-13 Thread Hans
Oh, sorry, yes of course. This is a notebook, running debian testing, proprietrary nvidia driver and effects active in plasma. This behaviour appears from time to time, and it is a little bit annoying when editing fields on a web page or writing a larger document in libreoffice. Thanks for yo

Re: Plasma: keyboard crash

2016-12-13 Thread Mark Neidorff
On Monday, 12/12/16 09:41:20 PM Hans wrote: > Hi folks, > > from time to time in plasma 5 I have the problem, that the keyboard stops > its function. Is there a way to restart the keyboard without restarting > plasma? > > Thanks for any hints. > > Best > > Hans More info. please. Is this a de

Re: current testing

2016-12-13 Thread Hans
Note, that SDDM does not work with the proprietrary nvidia drivers. This maybe will not be fixed, as this behavior is documented since almost a year. Hans

Re: Re: current testing

2016-12-13 Thread Borden Rhodes
Thank you for the references, Felix. Unfortunately, nothing you sent is applicable because SDDM doesn't even start in the first place. Computer goes unresponsive when it tries to start X and then I have to force shut down. I've been able to start - just - by booting into multi-user.target and mask

Re: How do I update the plug-ins in WordPress? Followed wiki.debian.org/WordPress. Says I need ftp server.

2016-12-13 Thread tv.deb...@googlemail.com
On 10/12/2016 23:59, Nate Homier wrote: Debian 8 server. all updates applied. Followed carefully the wiki.debian.org/WordPress instructions. Now WordPress says askimet plugin needs to be updated, but that ftp fails. I can't update plugin without having a ftp server apparently. Otherwise WordP

Re: network setup

2016-12-13 Thread Charlie Kravetz
That is one network access point, yes. However, where I am, I get about 10 of those, and must then read down to ESSID: to find the name. Each access point grouping starts with Cell 0? so by skipping to each new Cell number, I can find the next access point to verify if it is mine. -- Charlie Kra

Re: current testing

2016-12-13 Thread Yvan Masson
Hi, I personnaly do not have particular problems running Stretch on a Gnome desktop computer and a LXDE laptop, from two years now. Just be careful during updates to not remove important packages because of dependencies, but that's all. But do not use sid or testing on a computer that should nev

Re: network setup

2016-12-13 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 01:36:05PM +, Darac Marjal wrote: [...] > https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/ > lists three options: Thanks! regards - -- t -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.

Re: network setup

2016-12-13 Thread Darac Marjal
On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 02:18:11PM +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 07:43:06PM -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote: I tried manual network configuration and debian renamed wlan0 to wlx00c0ca364bd2 for some reason. This is (somewhat ironically) called a "predictable interface name"

Re: network setup

2016-12-13 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 07:43:06PM -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote: > I tried manual network configuration and debian renamed wlan0 to > wlx00c0ca364bd2 for some reason. This is (somewhat ironically) called a "predictable interface name". I don't know whet

Re: understanding how localization works in Debian

2016-12-13 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 01:45:52AM +0200, Martin T wrote: > On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 3:47 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > For a more detailed look at #3, see > > https://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/manual/gettext.html > thank you for reply! I do understand that LC_* and LANG variables can > come fro

Re: network setup

2016-12-13 Thread Brian
If all you want is a single wireless connection which is activated when the machine boots you do not need a wpa_supplicant.conf. Everything can be done in /etc/network/interfaces. It is the simplest, most hassle-free and most straightforward way to proceed. First check that network-manager is not

Re: network setup

2016-12-13 Thread Jude DaShiell
I'm trying for a single wireless connection. I wrote some stuff in /etc/network/interfaces and wrote some things in /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf and found command line documentation for bringing an internet connection up incomplete. Iwconfig has to be given the interface and told jus

Re: network setup

2016-12-13 Thread Jude DaShiell
I can't do anything more on debian until problem with espeak accessibility gets fixed. I've already sent that report to debian-accessibility list not running debian to do it either. Lots of missing command line network documentation too. I was making some progress using iwconfig and may be c

Re: current testing

2016-12-13 Thread Felix Miata
Borden Rhodes composed on 2016-12-13 04:46 (UTC-0500): on Sunday I upgraded the xserver and wayland packages to their current testing version. Now my computer freezes or hangs when it tries to start KDE/SDDM. Can't switch into consoles and the only option is to hard power off. Seems to be a

Re: current testing

2016-12-13 Thread Borden Rhodes
I'd advise against running testing if you want stability. I get a lot of breakages on my Stretch laptop with routine upgrades. When I look into them, a number of breakages seem due to transitions to newer library platforms where all the kinks haven't been worked out yet. Other packages simply have

Re: Black Screen on First Boot

2016-12-13 Thread Felix Miata
Dan Norton composed on 2016-12-12 20:52 (UTC-0500): The netinst of jessie from a flash drive, graphic install, went well like it did on another PC, but on this old PC the boot after install produced a black screen. vbeinfo lists some display settings followed by "Preferred mode 1360x768", but

Re: Where to report wl bad behavior ?

2016-12-13 Thread Laurent Debian
Hi kamaraju, Thanks for your feedback. I will file a bug report against wl then. Cheers (the reply only to you was a mistake) 2016-12-13 5:23 GMT+01:00 kamaraju kusumanchi : > > 2016-12-11 20:59 GMT+01:00 kamaraju kusumanchi > > : > >> > >> How and where did you get the wireless driver? If the

Re: LVM RAID vs LVM over MD

2016-12-13 Thread Igor Cicimov
On 12 Dec 2016 10:21 pm, "Jonathan Dowland" wrote: On Tue, Dec 06, 2016 at 10:53:30AM +1100, Igor Cicimov wrote: > It depends. If you are using cloud services with remote shared storage like > AWS EBS it does not make sense using LVM on top of RAID. To me it is just > adding complexity to already