Re: How to get an older emacs on Jessie

2016-09-29 Thread Andre Majorel
On 2016-09-29 14:57 -0400, Marc Auslander wrote: > I see what you mean. I must assume that the other packages have > survived my upgrades from previous versions and are still in my > package database. Sorry for the misleading post - it shows I don't > know how aptitude works :-) "emacs21" "emac

Re: How to get an older emacs on Jessie

2016-09-29 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Thu, 29 Sep 2016, Greg Wooledge wrote: Whenever I don't find the pacakge I want in Debian's repository, I typically grab the upstream source code and build it myself. Yes, me too. I was able to build 23.4 from source, and this appeared to solve the choking-on-old-elisp while byte-compilin

Re: Scroll Lock on VT prevents reboot/shutdown

2016-09-29 Thread davidson
Some caveats, below, qualifying the claims in my previous reply to OP. On Fri, 30 Sep 2016, david...@freevolt.org wrote: On Thu, 29 Sep 2016, Matt Sickler wrote: [intro cut away] Here's how to replicate the bug: 1) Log in as a normal user on a VT/ 2) Start nano. If nano is no

Re: Sound problem Dell Latitude E7470

2016-09-29 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi
On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 3:03 AM, Hedvig Kamp wrote: > Hi, > > I am running Debian Stretch on a Dell Latitude E7470 and I get almost > no sound. After running alsactl init as root I have a buzzing sound in > my speakers, as well as a short beep when I unmute in alsamixer. But > that is all the soun

Re: Scroll Lock on VT prevents reboot/shutdown

2016-09-29 Thread davidson
On Thu, 29 Sep 2016, Matt Sickler wrote: [intro cut away] Here's how to replicate the bug: 1) Log in as a normal user on a VT/ 2) Start nano. If nano is not available, I think any application that interacts with the user would work, but I've only tried using na

Re: WARNING! New Perl/Perl-base upgrade removes 141 Sid/Unstable packages

2016-09-29 Thread Stefan Monnier
> It's a pity that Aptitude is so poorly designed. Just because it doesn't always work the way you want it doesn't mean it should labeled "poorly designed". Stefan

Scroll Lock on VT prevents reboot/shutdown

2016-09-29 Thread Matt Sickler
I'm not sure which package this bug should be filed against, partially because I'm not entirely sure of the root cause. I'm able to replicate it on our systems every time, though I have not tried on a fresh install of Debian - our images aren't really that much different anyway. We don't have

Re: Canon printer minor quibble

2016-09-29 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 29 September 2016 16:03:38 Mark Fletcher wrote: > which I find ironic > considering what the U of CUPS stands for Why? MacOSX is Unix based (via BSD) and CUPS is supposed to be common to all Unices (though I have only used it on Linux and MacOSX). Lisi

Re: How to get an older emacs on Jessie

2016-09-29 Thread Marc Auslander
I see what you mean. I must assume that the other packages have survived my upgrades from previous versions and are still in my package database. Sorry for the misleading post - it shows I don't know how aptitude works :-)

Re: How to get an older emacs on Jessie

2016-09-29 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 01:28:59PM -0400, Marc Auslander wrote: > I'm running Jessie with the standard repositories and emacs from 21 on > are available. Have you looked? I see emacs24 and xemacs21 in jessie. Nothing in between. I don't fully understand the differences between emacs and xemacs;

Re: How to get an older emacs on Jessie

2016-09-29 Thread Marc Auslander
I'm running Jessie with the standard repositories and emacs from 21 on are available. Have you looked?

Re: Canon printer minor quibble

2016-09-29 Thread Brian
On Fri 30 Sep 2016 at 00:03:38 +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 11:25:19AM +0100, Brian wrote: > > You should now be able to compare the outputs of the Gutenprint and > > Canon drivers. Color management support is done by cups-filters > > (completed in Aug 2014) so it will be

Re: Maximal volume size for the client with a NFS v3 mounting

2016-09-29 Thread Jean-Paul Bouchet
On 28/09/2016 20:59, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 08:06:53PM +0200, Christian Seiler wrote: On 09/28/2016 07:18 PM, Jean-Paul Bouchet wrote: On a Jessie 8.5 system I mount a partition on a NAS server with NFSv3 protocol using options "nfs rw,soft" in /etc/fstab. The size o

How to get an older emacs on Jessie

2016-09-29 Thread Bob Bernstein
I have a need for an emacs older -- in terms of major version number -- than the ver. 24.4.1 currently onboard my i686 Jessie system. I suspect anything of ver. 23.n.n vintage would suit my purpose, which is to avoid ver 24's fussiness about older elisp code in a -- non-Debian -- package I am n

Re: A psgmlx that plays nice with emacs24?

2016-09-29 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Johann Spies writes: > On 27 September 2016 at 23:34, Tony Baldwin > wrote: > > > > > Emacs?! People still use the crusty old thing? > Perhaps he consider dumping that monstrosity and joining the rest > of us in the 21st Century, and upgrade to a modern OS with a >

Re: Canon printer minor quibble

2016-09-29 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 11:25:19AM +0100, Brian wrote: > On Wed 28 Sep 2016 at 07:43:54 +0900, Mark Fletcher wrote: > > > Sorry Brian, I think some confusion there due to my phrasing in the > > original post. There is, to my knowledge, no Canon-supplied Linux CUPS > > driver for this printer. Wh

Re: Can't set up network on Debian 8 fresh install [was: Unidentified subject!]

2016-09-29 Thread Dan Purgert
Eike Lantzsch wrote: > On Donnerstag, 29. September 2016 10:09:45 PYT Dan Purgert wrote: >> It could be as simple as the laptop requires non-free drivers (e.g. >> Intel), which were not installed as part of the Debian setup process. >> I had that issues with Wheezy and an Intel 7260 WLAN card. > >

Re: WARNING! New Perl/Perl-base upgrade removes 141 Sid/Unstable packages

2016-09-29 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2016-09-29 10:50:39 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2016-09-28 23:05:31 +0200, Sven Hartge wrote: > > There is an option to tune the resolver. I have got the following in my > > /etc/apt/apt.conf: > > > > , > > | // tweak Aptitude to not suggest removals as first option > > | Aptitude::P

Re: WARNING! New Perl/Perl-base upgrade removes 141 Sid/Unstable packages

2016-09-29 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2016-09-29 13:28:48 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2016-09-29 10:17:57 +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: > > But what if PackageA is something like libc? A hundred packages are to be > > upgraded but PackageB is old and incompatible. Clearly, even though you've > > boosted the cost of removals, it'

Re: Upgrade fails

2016-09-29 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2016-09-29 11:41:59 +0200, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > On 29/09/16 11:21, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > On 2016-09-29 11:13:17 +0200, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > >> Trying apt-get upgrade: > >> > >> 11:10:17 root@tony-fr:~# apt-get upgrade > >> Reading package lists... Done > >> Building dependency t

[SOLVED] Re: Upgrade fails

2016-09-29 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 29/09/16 12:51, Floris wrote: > Op Thu, 29 Sep 2016 12:44:10 +0200 schreef Tony van der Hoff > : > >> On 29/09/16 12:11, Floris wrote: >>> Op Thu, 29 Sep 2016 12:07:47 +0200 schreef Tony van der Hoff >>> : >>> >>> >>> re-enable the deb-multimedia repo >>> (don't forget to run apt-get update) >>

Re: WARNING! New Perl/Perl-base upgrade removes 141 Sid/Unstable packages

2016-09-29 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2016-09-29 10:17:57 +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: > Looking at the documentation for SolutionCost, it only makes removals more > costly. There is no way to say "never remove any packages". Actually, the problem doesn't seem to be a cost one, but the fact that Aptitude *skips* solutions where some

Re: Can't set up network on Debian 8 fresh install [was: Unidentified subject!]

2016-09-29 Thread Eike Lantzsch
On Donnerstag, 29. September 2016 10:09:45 PYT Dan Purgert wrote: > wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 03:30:04PM -0700, hol...@cox.net wrote: > >> Clean install of deb8 (jessie)on my Thinkpad T4220i laptop. went well > >> except for the fact that the network configuration > >> with DCP failed. >

Re: Upgrade fails

2016-09-29 Thread Floris
Op Thu, 29 Sep 2016 12:44:10 +0200 schreef Tony van der Hoff : On 29/09/16 12:11, Floris wrote: Op Thu, 29 Sep 2016 12:07:47 +0200 schreef Tony van der Hoff : re-enable the deb-multimedia repo (don't forget to run apt-get update) and try to update your system with apt-get dselect-upgrade F

Re: Upgrade fails

2016-09-29 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 29/09/16 12:11, Floris wrote: > Op Thu, 29 Sep 2016 12:07:47 +0200 schreef Tony van der Hoff > : > > > re-enable the deb-multimedia repo > (don't forget to run apt-get update) > and try to update your system with > apt-get dselect-upgrade > > Floris > Yay, that's fixed it! Thanks, Floris!

Re: Can't set up network on Debian 8 fresh install [was: Unidentified subject!]

2016-09-29 Thread Dan Purgert
wrote: > On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 03:30:04PM -0700, hol...@cox.net wrote: >> Clean install of deb8 (jessie)on my Thinkpad T4220i laptop. went well >> except for the fact that the network configuration >> with DCP failed. > > This is probably DHCP. That means that the laptop tries to ask in > the lo

Re: Upgrade fails

2016-09-29 Thread Floris
Op Thu, 29 Sep 2016 12:07:47 +0200 schreef Tony van der Hoff : On 29/09/16 12:03, Floris wrote: apt-get purge vlc-data No!! I don't want to lose this lot: The following packages will be REMOVED: akregator* apper* ark* browser-plugin-vlc* dolphin* dragonplayer* gwenview* jovie* juk* k3b*

Re: Upgrade fails

2016-09-29 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 29/09/16 12:03, Floris wrote: > apt-get purge vlc-data No!! I don't want to lose this lot: The following packages will be REMOVED: akregator* apper* ark* browser-plugin-vlc* dolphin* dragonplayer* gwenview* jovie* juk* k3b* k3b-i18n* k4dirstat* kaccessible* kaddressbook* kate* kblocks* kcalc

Re: Upgrade fails

2016-09-29 Thread Floris
Op Thu, 29 Sep 2016 11:58:57 +0200 schreef Tony van der Hoff : On 29/09/16 11:48, Floris wrote: The following packages have unmet dependencies: libvlccore8 : Depends: vlc-data (= 2.2.4-1~deb8u1) but 1:2.0.6-dmo3 is to be installed Bah! you have enabled the Deb Multimedia repo. Which i

Re: Upgrade fails

2016-09-29 Thread Nicolas George
L'octidi 8 vendémiaire, an CCXXV, Tony van der Hoff a écrit : > Nope, it's commented out: But maybe you still have installed packages from it. signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: DHCP failure (was Re: Unidentified subject!)

2016-09-29 Thread Floris
Op Thu, 29 Sep 2016 01:18:02 +0200 schreef Dan Ritter : On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 03:30:04PM -0700, hol...@cox.net wrote: Clean install of deb8 (jessie)on my Thinkpad T4220i laptop. went well except for the fact that the network configuration with DCP failed. I was given 3 options. 1) try it a

Re: Upgrade fails

2016-09-29 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 29/09/16 11:48, Floris wrote: > >> >> The following packages have unmet dependencies: >> libvlccore8 : Depends: vlc-data (= 2.2.4-1~deb8u1) but 1:2.0.6-dmo3 is >> to be installed >> >> Bah! >> > > you have enabled the Deb Multimedia repo. Which is not part of Debian. > Now you have two option

Bug in apticron (or dpkg ?) and trying to work around with apt-mark

2016-09-29 Thread Michael Lange
Hi, (sorry, the following is getting lengthy) although I never used it myself, I think I found a bug in apticron. I am using a snippet from apticron in a custom script to create a list of upgradable packages and noticed that sometimes the number of packages reported by apticron's internal logic dif

Re: Upgrade fails

2016-09-29 Thread Floris
The following packages have unmet dependencies: libvlccore8 : Depends: vlc-data (= 2.2.4-1~deb8u1) but 1:2.0.6-dmo3 is to be installed Bah! you have enabled the Deb Multimedia repo. Which is not part of Debian. Now you have two options: - remove the repo and use the real Debian packages -

Re: Upgrade fails

2016-09-29 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 29/09/16 11:21, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2016-09-29 11:13:17 +0200, Tony van der Hoff wrote: >> Trying apt-get upgrade: >> >> 11:10:17 root@tony-fr:~# apt-get upgrade >> Reading package lists... Done >> Building dependency tree >> Reading state information... Done >> Calculating upgrade... Do

Re: missing subject

2016-09-29 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 03:34:13PM -0700, Bob Holtzman wrote: > Sorry. Hit the send key too soon. Subject should have been network > configuration. and you already got two proposals for a nicer Subject. Ain't we a nice bunch ;-) regards - -- t -

Can't set up network on Debian 8 fresh install [was: Unidentified subject!]

2016-09-29 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Bob. Welcome. First, a meta-suggestions Try to use a good subject line (I tried to modify it). This list is read by many volunteers, and is pretty high volume. Nobody reads everything. A good subject line will make it more probable that

Re: Upgrade fails

2016-09-29 Thread Kushal Kumaran
Tony van der Hoff writes: > Trying apt-get upgrade: > > 11:10:17 root@tony-fr:~# apt-get upgrade > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state information... Done > Calculating upgrade... Done > The following packages have been kept back: > db5.1-util phonon-backend

Re: Upgrade fails

2016-09-29 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2016-09-29 11:13:17 +0200, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > Trying apt-get upgrade: > > 11:10:17 root@tony-fr:~# apt-get upgrade > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state information... Done > Calculating upgrade... Done > The following packages have been kept back: >

Re: WARNING! New Perl/Perl-base upgrade removes 141 Sid/Unstable packages

2016-09-29 Thread Darac Marjal
On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 11:00:30AM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2016-09-28 19:30:07 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 19:55:49 +0200 Vincent Lefevre wrote: Hello Vincent, >I'm not asking it to read my mind. I just want it not to >remove any package I have manually installed.

Re: WARNING! New Perl/Perl-base upgrade removes 141 Sid/Unstable packages

2016-09-29 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Sep 28, 2016 at 05:03:26PM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: > As a general rule, I find that using Debian packaging for perl makes > absolutely no sense - and often problematic. It's more complicated than this. There are other (non-Perl, non-CPAN)

Upgrade fails

2016-09-29 Thread Tony van der Hoff
Trying apt-get upgrade: 11:10:17 root@tony-fr:~# apt-get upgrade Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Calculating upgrade... Done The following packages have been kept back: db5.1-util phonon-backend-vlc vlc vlc-nox vlc-plugin-notify vlc-plugin

Re: WARNING! New Perl/Perl-base upgrade removes 141 Sid/Unstable packages

2016-09-29 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2016-09-28 14:50:50 -0500, John Hasler wrote: > Vincent Lefevre writes: > > I'm not asking it to read my mind. I just want it not to remove any > > package I have manually installed. > > It doesn't remove anything without your permission. It proposes > a solution to the problem you present it

[SOLVED] Re: system gobbles disk space

2016-09-29 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 26/09/16 11:42, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > Hi, > > For the last few days, my jessie VM has apparently run out of disk space > overnight. df shows 100% usage on / but du does not show any enormous files. > > If I reboot, the disk usage goes back to 50% on a 40GB volume. Pleased to say, that wi

Re: WARNING! New Perl/Perl-base upgrade removes 141 Sid/Unstable packages

2016-09-29 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2016-09-28 21:37:54 +0200, Sven Hartge wrote: > Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > On 2016-09-28 10:46:31 -0500, John Hasler wrote: > >> Vincent Lefevre writes: > > >>> Things like that should not happen. But this is not a bug in the > >>> perl packages. This is a misfeature of apt / aptitude, which w

Re: A psgmlx that plays nice with emacs24?

2016-09-29 Thread Johann Spies
On 27 September 2016 at 23:34, Tony Baldwin wrote: > > Emacs?! People still use the crusty old thing? > Perhaps he consider dumping that monstrosity and joining the rest of us in > the 21st Century, and upgrade to a modern OS with a proper editor, such as > Debian 8/Jessie with Vim!" > > Why so n

Re: WARNING! New Perl/Perl-base upgrade removes 141 Sid/Unstable packages

2016-09-29 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2016-09-28 19:30:07 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 19:55:49 +0200 > Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > Hello Vincent, > > >I'm not asking it to read my mind. I just want it not to > >remove any package I have manually installed. > > I don't use aptitude, but if I understand things c

Re: WARNING! New Perl/Perl-base upgrade removes 141 Sid/Unstable packages

2016-09-29 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2016-09-28 23:05:31 +0200, Sven Hartge wrote: > There is an option to tune the resolver. I have got the following in my > /etc/apt/apt.conf: > > , > | // tweak Aptitude to not suggest removals as first option > | Aptitude::ProblemResolver::SolutionCost "removals"; > ` Unfortunately, it