Re: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again.

2016-09-01 Thread Joe
On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 19:28:58 -0700 Jimmy Johnson wrote: > On 09/01/2016 09:49 AM, Joe wrote: > > On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 17:05:59 +0100 > > Brad Rogers wrote: > > > >> On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 08:51:57 -0700 > >> Jimmy Johnson wrote: > >> > >> Hello Jimmy, > >> > >>> The latest upgrades have broken Syn

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

2016-09-01 Thread deloptes
Stefan Monnier wrote: >> In Korea, all most people are using KakaoTalk (android app). >> If i am wrong, sorry, and let it go to off-topic. > > It's not decentralized. IOW you're dependent on one central > server/company and everything goes through them, they get an insane > amount of data and po

Re: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again.

2016-09-01 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 09/01/2016 09:49 AM, Joe wrote: On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 17:05:59 +0100 Brad Rogers wrote: On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 08:51:57 -0700 Jimmy Johnson wrote: Hello Jimmy, The latest upgrades have broken Synaptic, unable to use Menus or right click and Search is affected too. All seems well here; Synap

Re: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again.

2016-09-01 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 09/01/2016 02:50 PM, Floris wrote: Op Thu, 01 Sep 2016 18:49:15 +0200 schreef Joe : On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 17:05:59 +0100 Brad Rogers wrote: On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 08:51:57 -0700 Jimmy Johnson wrote: Hello Jimmy, >The latest upgrades have broken Synaptic, unable to use Menus or >right click an

Re: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again.

2016-09-01 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 09/01/2016 09:05 AM, Brad Rogers wrote: On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 08:51:57 -0700 Jimmy Johnson wrote: Hello Jimmy, The latest upgrades have broken Synaptic, unable to use Menus or right click and Search is affected too. All seems well here; Synaptic functions normally with Debian testing/KDE.

Re: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again.

2016-09-01 Thread Floris
Op Thu, 01 Sep 2016 18:49:15 +0200 schreef Joe : On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 17:05:59 +0100 Brad Rogers wrote: On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 08:51:57 -0700 Jimmy Johnson wrote: Hello Jimmy, >The latest upgrades have broken Synaptic, unable to use Menus or >right click and Search is affected too. All seems we

Jessie>Stretch Update Challenges

2016-09-01 Thread Paul Gallaway
Actually, this didn't go too badly. Better than expected even. I have two systems I upgraded. Ones a desktop I rarely use and it went perfect so I went for it on my HTPC/mythtv/Steam system as well. Here's the process I followed: Changed my sources in /etc/apt/sources.list from jessie to stretch.

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

2016-09-01 Thread David Wright
On Wed 31 Aug 2016 at 14:08:36 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 31 August 2016 11:31:18 Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > On Wednesday 31 August 2016 15:45:42 Mark Fletcher wrote: > > > Well and > > > good -- actually, very good, because it prevents me making the > > > stupid mistake I frequently

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

2016-09-01 Thread Stefan Monnier
> In Korea, all most people are using KakaoTalk (android app). > If i am wrong, sorry, and let it go to off-topic. It's not decentralized. IOW you're dependent on one central server/company and everything goes through them, they get an insane amount of data and power this way. Stefan

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2016-09-01 Thread Honey Bun
I never recieved a wm card i was lied to, and i was charged on my debit card 4.95 for postage and delivery fee!!!

Re: Dual boot. Ubuntu update removes Debian GRUB.

2016-09-01 Thread Felix Miata
Stefan.schultz19.5.1991 composed on 2016-09-01 14:30 (UTC-0400): Dual boot. Ubuntu update removes Debian GRUB. Last week I installed a few updates to Ubuntu 14.04. It installed the updates and then froze whilst installing Ununtu's grub. After the re-boot, Ubuntu was the only choice of O/S.

Re: Dual boot. Ubuntu update removes Debian GRUB.

2016-09-01 Thread Brian
On Thu 01 Sep 2016 at 14:30:58 -0400, Stefan.schultz19.5.1991 wrote: > Dual boot. Ubuntu update removes Debian GRUB. > > Hello Debian support, Hello Stefan. There is only me in the office at the moment but the Night Shift should be along later. > Last week I installed a few updates to Ubuntu 14

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

2016-09-01 Thread Henning Follmann
On Thu, Sep 01, 2016 at 06:21:22PM +, Amir H. Firouzian wrote: > On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 4:25 PM, Henning Follmann > wrote: > > > On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 06:12:36PM +, Amir H. Firouzian wrote: > > > It's not my point of view, It's P2P philosophy. > > LOL, you really crack me up. P2P philos

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

2016-09-01 Thread deloptes
Joe wrote: > On Wed, 31 Aug 2016 08:27:51 +0200 > deloptes wrote: > Sorry for not being able to answer earlier. There are some points here that need to be emphasized. >> Lisi Reisz wrote: >> >> > >> >> About reliability - I have not seen recently undelivered mails >> >> (except bounces bet

Dual boot. Ubuntu update removes Debian GRUB.

2016-09-01 Thread Stefan.schultz19.5.1991
Dual boot. Ubuntu update removes Debian GRUB. Hello Debian support, Last week I installed a few updates to Ubuntu 14.04. It installed the updates and then froze whilst installing Ununtu's grub. After the re-boot, Ubuntu was the only choice of O/S. No sign of Debian. After a few hours I finally

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

2016-09-01 Thread Brian
On Wed 31 Aug 2016 at 14:23:01 -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Wed 31 Aug 2016 at 16:10:37 (+0200), Nicolas George wrote: > > Le quartidi 14 fructidor, an CCXXIV, David Wright a écrit : > > > The error might have been mine. I think I CC'd Lisi in error. > > > The other list I'm on expects people t

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

2016-09-01 Thread Amir H. Firouzian
On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 4:25 PM, Henning Follmann wrote: > On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 06:12:36PM +, Amir H. Firouzian wrote: > > It's not my point of view, It's P2P philosophy. > LOL, you really crack me up. P2P philosophy? Seriously? > Is that taught at some university? Can you have a P2PhD ther

Re: postfix mail filtering

2016-09-01 Thread Joe
On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 17:51:10 +0100 Tony van der Hoff wrote: > On 31/08/16 13:33, Perry E. Metzger wrote: > > On Wed, 31 Aug 2016 13:21:13 +0100 Tony van der Hoff > > wrote: > >> So, I'd like to perform the filtering on the server (for my user > >> initially, then perhaps for others). My extensi

Re: postfix mail filtering

2016-09-01 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 31/08/16 15:02, Dan Ritter wrote: On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 01:21:13PM +0100, Tony van der Hoff wrote: Hi list, I'm running postfix under Wheezy on my VPS, using a more or less out-of-the-box configuration. My users access their mail via IMAP. I subscribe to a number of mail lists, such as th

Re: postfix mail filtering

2016-09-01 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 31/08/16 13:33, Perry E. Metzger wrote: On Wed, 31 Aug 2016 13:21:13 +0100 Tony van der Hoff wrote: So, I'd like to perform the filtering on the server (for my user initially, then perhaps for others). My extensive googling reveals that there are many tutorials for filtering spam, but that's

Re: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again.

2016-09-01 Thread Joe
On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 17:05:59 +0100 Brad Rogers wrote: > On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 08:51:57 -0700 > Jimmy Johnson wrote: > > Hello Jimmy, > > >The latest upgrades have broken Synaptic, unable to use Menus or > >right click and Search is affected too. > > All seems well here; Synaptic functions norm

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

2016-09-01 Thread Henning Follmann
On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 06:12:36PM +, Amir H. Firouzian wrote: > It's not my point of view, It's P2P philosophy. LOL, you really crack me up. P2P philosophy? Seriously? Is that taught at some university? Can you have a P2PhD there? > if you consider the project that try to collect Internet In

Re: Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again.

2016-09-01 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 08:51:57 -0700 Jimmy Johnson wrote: Hello Jimmy, >The latest upgrades have broken Synaptic, unable to use Menus or right >click and Search is affected too. All seems well here; Synaptic functions normally with Debian testing/KDE. Last updated this afternoon. -- Regards

Testing/Unstable Synaptic broken again.

2016-09-01 Thread Jimmy Johnson
The latest upgrades have broken Synaptic, unable to use Menus or right click and Search is affected too. -- Jimmy Johnson Debian Stretch - KDE-Plasma-Desktop 5.7.4 - EXT4 - AMD64 at sda12 Registered Linux User #380263

Re: Problem source verified -Re: Jessie (8.0) slow to boot

2016-09-01 Thread David Wright
On Thu 01 Sep 2016 at 13:11:22 (+0100), Darac Marjal wrote: > On Thu, Sep 01, 2016 at 07:02:14AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > >On 8/31/2016 11:25 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > >>On 8/31/2016 10:44 AM, Felix Miata wrote: > >>>Richard Owlett composed on 2016-08-31 09:58 (UTC-0500): > >>>... > Aug

Re: How often are RealTek drivers brought up to date for Debian?

2016-09-01 Thread Dan Purgert
sebast...@reuter.pw wrote: > Hello Debian Support team, > > QUESTION... > > Please can you tell me whether the RealTek drivers for > rtl8812AU_8821AU_linux, can be approved for Debian, so Tails is able to > work with this fast wireless dongle? Seems that they're already widely available -- you jus

Re: Problem source verified -Re: Jessie (8.0) slow to boot

2016-09-01 Thread claude juif
2016-09-01 14:02 GMT+02:00 Richard Owlett : > On 8/31/2016 11:25 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > >> On 8/31/2016 10:44 AM, Felix Miata wrote: >> >>> Richard Owlett composed on 2016-08-31 09:58 (UTC-0500): >>> ... >>> Aug 31 09:13:32 deb8-2ndtry systemd[1]: Job dev-disk-by\x2duuid-0a344714\x2

Re: Jessie (8.0) slow to boot

2016-09-01 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 01 September 2016 06:50:13 Richard Owlett wrote: > On 8/31/2016 11:48 AM, Felix Miata wrote: > > Richard Owlett composed on 2016-08-31 11:25 (UTC-0500): > >> Commenting out the line in /etc/fstab DID allow it to boot > >> without warning messages. > >> > >> However,taking into account

Re: [jessie] how to file bug report against update that broke other packages?

2016-09-01 Thread D. R. Evans
Jonathan Dowland wrote on 09/01/2016 03:07 AM: > > I'd report it against gscan2pdf in the first instance. The maintainers of the > package which has broken will be best equipped to figure out whether or not > the > problem needs changes in the gscan2pdf package or elsewhere; the bug can > always

Problem source verified -Re: Jessie (8.0) slow to boot

2016-09-01 Thread Richard Owlett
On 8/31/2016 11:25 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 8/31/2016 10:44 AM, Felix Miata wrote: Richard Owlett composed on 2016-08-31 09:58 (UTC-0500): ... Aug 31 09:13:32 deb8-2ndtry systemd[1]: Job dev-disk-by\x2duuid-0a344714\x2dae06\x2d43ed\x2daf89\x2d33ba51934630.de Aug 31 09:13:32 deb8-2ndtry sy

How often are RealTek drivers brought up to date for Debian?

2016-09-01 Thread sebast...@reuter.pw
Hello Debian Support team, QUESTION... Please can you tell me whether the RealTek drivers for rtl8812AU_8821AU_linux, can be approved for Debian, so Tails is able to work with this fast wireless dongle? -- More details. I'm a new c

Re: Jessie (8.0) slow to boot

2016-09-01 Thread Richard Owlett
On 8/31/2016 11:48 AM, Felix Miata wrote: Richard Owlett composed on 2016-08-31 11:25 (UTC-0500): Commenting out the line in /etc/fstab DID allow it to boot without warning messages. However,taking into account Darac's comments, does this now mean that the machines are now operating without

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Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

2016-09-01 Thread Brian
On Wed 31 Aug 2016 at 15:04:26 -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Wed 31 Aug 2016 at 00:34:47 (+0100), Brian wrote: > > > > Additionally, I have learned a little more about mutt's behaviour. > > > > (default: L) > > > > Reply to the current or tagged message(s) by extracting any addresses >

Re: Jessie (8.0) slow to boot

2016-09-01 Thread Darac Marjal
On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 02:49:05PM -0400, Alan McConnell wrote: On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 09:16:00AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: I have Jessie installed on a desktop and a laptop. They both take about 105-110 seconds to boot. Squeeze on the desktop takes ~15 seconds to boot. My jessie

Re: [jessie] how to file bug report against update that broke other packages?

2016-09-01 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 02:44:13PM -0600, D. R. Evans wrote: > As of a few days ago the gscan2pdf program is no longer functioning properly > in up-to-date jessie. I'd report it against gscan2pdf in the first instance. The maintainers of the package which has broken will be best equipped to figure

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

2016-09-01 Thread claude juif
2016-08-31 14:31 GMT+02:00 Brian : > On Wed 31 Aug 2016 at 10:54:53 +0200, claude juif wrote: > > > > Le 31 août 2016 9:48 AM, "Joe" a écrit : > > > > > > Email is still a useful messaging protocol, it is somewhat broken, but > > > the cure absolutely must not be worse than the disease, or we'll

Re: Decentralized reliable instant messaging?

2016-09-01 Thread claude juif
2016-08-31 15:44 GMT+02:00 Stefan Monnier : > > It's better that your message Not arrive instead of being disclose! and > > This is the philosophy behind True P2P IM systems. > > Oh, I don't need 100% absolutely guaranteed delivery. > > Just some reasonable expectation that messages won't be silen