Re: [Rant] The Endless Search for a Mail Client That Doesn't Suck

2016-08-28 Thread deloptes
Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 29 August 2016 02:16:09 deloptes wrote: > >> Neal P. Murphy wrote: >> > About the time of squeeze or wheezy, kmail (and KDE for that matter) >> > began slipping over the edge into the abyss. I finally found XFCE >> > which is about as simple and is as useful as KDE

Re: [Rant] The Endless Search for a Mail Client That Doesn't Suck

2016-08-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 29 August 2016 02:16:09 deloptes wrote: > Neal P. Murphy wrote: > > About the time of squeeze or wheezy, kmail (and KDE for that matter) > > began slipping over the edge into the abyss. I finally found XFCE > > which is about as simple and is as useful as KDE3 was. > > KDE3 still lives a

Re: [Rant] The Endless Search for a Mail Client That Doesn't Suck

2016-08-28 Thread Johann Spies
I use mutt. From time to time I have experimented with things like kmail, pine, evolution, thunderbird (icedove), claws, gnus and maybe some others and every time I came back to mutt. Regards Johann -- Because experiencing your loyal love is better than life itself, my lips will praise you. (P

Re: [Rant] The Endless Search for a Mail Client That Doesn't Suck

2016-08-28 Thread deloptes
Neal P. Murphy wrote: > About the time of squeeze or wheezy, kmail (and KDE for that matter) began > slipping over the edge into the abyss. I finally found XFCE which is about > as simple and is as useful as KDE3 was. KDE3 still lives and KMail is still as usable as before ... even better as bugs

Re: Any idea when CVE-2016-5696 is going to get fixed?

2016-08-28 Thread Salvatore Bonaccorso
Hi, On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 01:08:45AM -0400, Neal P. Murphy wrote: > On Mon, 29 Aug 2016 03:43:15 + > Mark Fletcher wrote: > > > Version 4.7 of the kernel contains a fix, which only required changes to > > one source file, so I assume it's a question of back porting that fix into > > the Je

Re: Any idea when CVE-2016-5696 is going to get fixed?

2016-08-28 Thread Neal P. Murphy
On Mon, 29 Aug 2016 03:43:15 + Mark Fletcher wrote: > Version 4.7 of the kernel contains a fix, which only required changes to > one source file, so I assume it's a question of back porting that fix into > the Jessie version of the kernel. I might take a look at trying that and > submit a pat

Re: Any idea when CVE-2016-5696 is going to get fixed?

2016-08-28 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Mon, 29 Aug 2016 at 10:21, Neal P. Murphy wrote: > On Sun, 28 Aug 2016 14:35:01 +0200 > Frederic Marchal wrote: > > > The attack is also useless if the attacker can't spoof the source IP > > address. Routers in corporate environments usually block this by design > or > > due to VLAN. For that

Re: [Rant] The Endless Search for a Mail Client That Doesn't Suck

2016-08-28 Thread Neal P. Murphy
On Sun, 28 Aug 2016 23:06:16 +0200 No Spam wrote: > Hi, > > So it is 12 years later; > > has someone found something working? > > greets > > J More years ago, BeOS' email client was perfect for me. It use separate files and made very liberal use of BFS' equivalent of attributes to sort and

Re: Any idea when CVE-2016-5696 is going to get fixed?

2016-08-28 Thread Neal P. Murphy
On Sun, 28 Aug 2016 14:35:01 +0200 Frederic Marchal wrote: > The attack is also useless if the attacker can't spoof the source IP > address. Routers in corporate environments usually block this by design or > due to VLAN. For that reason, the attack can't come from the same LAN to > bypass the

Re: [Rant] The Endless Search for a Mail Client That Doesn't Suck

2016-08-28 Thread Ben Finney
No Spam writes: > So it is 12 years later; To what event are you referring? Your message's header has no standard “In-Reply-To” field, so it apparently is not composed as a reply. > has someone found something working? I hope you can find an email client that correctly preserves the thread of

Re: [Rant] The Endless Search for a Mail Client That Doesn't Suck

2016-08-28 Thread No Spam
Hi, So it is 12 years later; has someone found something working? greets J signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Any idea when CVE-2016-5696 is going to get fixed?

2016-08-28 Thread deloptes
Perry E. Metzger wrote: > The hole needs to be fixed. AMEN

Re: Linux Kernel for Jessie, 3.16 LTS

2016-08-28 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2016-08-28 23:24 +0300, Georgi Naplatanov wrote: > I noticed that Linux kernel 3.16.x is LTS at kernel.org. > > Will Debian 8 switch to to kernel.org's LTS version or will it stay with > Ubuntu's version of that kernel? The former, because Ubuntu no longer maintains the 3.16 kernel. Actually,

Linux Kernel for Jessie, 3.16 LTS

2016-08-28 Thread Georgi Naplatanov
Hi, I noticed that Linux kernel 3.16.x is LTS at kernel.org. Will Debian 8 switch to to kernel.org's LTS version or will it stay with Ubuntu's version of that kernel? Kind regards Georgi

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2016-08-28 Thread Ashley Lucas
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Re: Any idea when CVE-2016-5696 is going to get fixed?

2016-08-28 Thread Perry E. Metzger
On Sun, 28 Aug 2016 14:35:01 +0200 Frederic Marchal wrote: > The requirements are: > > * TCP connection, > * long-lived, > * unencrypted, > * long silences. > > I'll add that the protocol must allow the server to initiate data > sending with only one packet (such as news pushed from the server >

Re: Advice on downloading software please

2016-08-28 Thread rhkramer
On Saturday, August 27, 2016 07:34:33 PM Joe Pfeiffer wrote: > Brian writes: > > Even if it works? > > It is a really good idea to check the contents of the PPA, and make sure > it doesn't bring in nonstandard versions of system libraries. I don't > remember ever having been burned by a PPA spe

Re: Any idea when CVE-2016-5696 is going to get fixed?

2016-08-28 Thread Frederic Marchal
On Friday 26 August 2016 23:11:23 Perry E. Metzger wrote: > On Fri, 26 Aug 2016 21:06:15 +0200 Frederic Marchal > > wrote: > > On Friday 26 August 2016 11:04:04 Perry E. Metzger wrote: > > > According to: > > > > > > https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2016-5696 > > > > > > Wheezy a

Re: Advice on downloading software please

2016-08-28 Thread Curt
On 2016-08-27, Daniel Bareiro wrote: are given at x [1]. >> ^ >> | >> | >> What happened here-| ? The link has disappeared, Censorship at work? > > Maybe some intermediate processing performed by openmailbox.org, > There is no [1] on t