Re: Info

2016-08-05 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 9:27 PM Satya Prakash Prasad < satyaprakash.pra...@gmail.com> wrote: > I am in need to build gcc-4.9/libgcc1_4.9.2-10_amd64.deb locally so that I > can copy this deb file to another host for installation. > > I am aware that we can build .deb & install file using below step

Re: Limiting internet access by time

2016-08-05 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 3:43 AM Brian wrote: > On Fri 05 Aug 2016 at 15:49:28 +, Mark Fletcher wrote: > > > On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 11:04 PM Brian wrote: > > > > > Sticking with the idea of using a systemd service file, the script it > > > runs would check the time and alter the routing table

Re: Limiting internet access by time

2016-08-05 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 2:48 AM Dan Ritter wrote: > On Fri, Aug 05, 2016 at 03:49:28PM +, Mark Fletcher wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 11:04 PM Brian wrote: > > > > I didn't mention earlier, and I'm not sure if it is relevant, but the > > computer connects via WiFi to my access point, whic

Re: Limiting internet access by time

2016-08-05 Thread Brian
On Fri 05 Aug 2016 at 20:02:58 +0100, Brian wrote: > On Fri 05 Aug 2016 at 13:48:54 -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > > > I have a new suggestion, based on this. > > > > Do all the filtering on your LFS box. > > > > Match your kid's machine by MAC address. > > > > Write two tiny scripts: > > > > #!/

Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes.......

2016-08-05 Thread Charlie
On Thu, 4 Aug 2016 12:47:43 -0500 David Wright sent: > On Thu 04 Aug 2016 at 23:17:08 (+1000), Charlie wrote: > > On Thu, 04 Aug 2016 07:29:23 -0500 John Hasler sent: > > > > > Programs do sometimes open in other viewports.. > > > > After contemplation, my reply is: > > > > Until no

Re: nosh and redo have moved

2016-08-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 05 August 2016 15:48:44 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 05 August 2016 16:40:46 Gene Heskett wrote: > > As for noticing the announcements, my expiry rules for this list > > have already nuked the last of those messages just 3 or 4 days ago. > > That is hardly Jonathan's fault. Do you acce

Re: nosh and redo have moved

2016-08-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 05 August 2016 13:52:54 Andre Majorel wrote: > On 2016-08-05 11:40 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > So far, no links have included what I'd call a blow by blow, which > > resulted in his projects being moved. > > It's not in any of the links in his message but in > > https://jdebp.eu/about

Re: nosh and redo have moved

2016-08-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 05 August 2016 13:52:54 Andre Majorel wrote: > On 2016-08-05 11:40 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > So far, no links have included what I'd call a blow by blow, which > > resulted in his projects being moved. > > It's not in any of the links in his message but in > > https://jdebp.eu/about

Re: nosh and redo have moved

2016-08-05 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 05 August 2016 22:46:23 Gene Heskett wrote: > Or in the present case, > harassing the OP.  Who seems not inclined to clarify what he alluded to > when he announced both the move and a new version. Which is a most unworthy occupation. You have been told both answers. Jonathan has no ne

Re: nosh and redo have moved

2016-08-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 05 August 2016 13:25:43 Andre Majorel wrote: > On 2016-08-05 12:36 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Point taken. The pruning is an attempt to keep each individual > > mailbox readable in a reasonable length of time by kmail. A > > couple of my folders have no expiry, are over 2Gb in size.

[PRIVATE REPLY} Re: Problem with NON-STANDARD install

2016-08-05 Thread Richard Owlett
On 8/5/2016 3:03 PM, David Wright wrote: [snip] How about trying to do http://forums.justlinux.com/showthread.php?147959-How-to-install-and-boot-145-operating-systems-in-a-PC [snip] forums.justlinux.com has a display problem. As suggested I went to FAQ. I clicked on "Contact Us". Their 'bot fi

Re: Problem with NON-STANDARD install

2016-08-05 Thread Richard Owlett
On 8/5/2016 3:03 PM, David Wright wrote: On Fri 05 Aug 2016 at 13:44:54 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: On 8/1/2016 10:37 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: *CAVEAT LECTOR* I _KNOW_ I'm doing an *ATYPICAL* install. I *REQUIRE* Grub to be its own partition. The Debian 8.4 installer at least recognizes tha

Re: Chromium jumps to any workspace it likes.......

2016-08-05 Thread David Wright
On Thu 04 Aug 2016 at 19:34:15 (+0100), Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Thursday 04 August 2016 19:06:51 David Wright wrote: > > Reviewing your posts, the first sympathetically commiserated with the OP, > > the rest seemed to be arguing with those who knew something about fvwm > > and were trying to comment

Re: Problem with NON-STANDARD install

2016-08-05 Thread David Wright
On Fri 05 Aug 2016 at 13:44:54 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 8/1/2016 10:37 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > >*CAVEAT LECTOR* > >I _KNOW_ I'm doing an *ATYPICAL* install. > >I *REQUIRE* Grub to be its own partition. > >The Debian 8.4 installer at least recognizes that some users > >would desire Gr

Re: nosh and redo have moved

2016-08-05 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 05 August 2016 18:25:43 Andre Majorel wrote: > If you use Kmail, you probably don't use Procmail but it takes > more than mere logic to stop me from giving unsolicited advice. I don't often laugh loudly out loud when reading the Debian List. I believe the acronym is approximately ROFLM

Re: nosh and redo have moved

2016-08-05 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 05 August 2016 16:40:46 Gene Heskett wrote: > As for noticing the announcements, my expiry rules for this list have > already nuked the last of those messages just 3 or 4 days ago. That is hardly Jonathan's fault. Do you accept only prolific posters? I am sure that there are those o

Re: How to prevent /tmp files from being deleted at reboot

2016-08-05 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 05.08.2016 um 09:04 schrieb Jonathan de Boyne Pollard: > Michael Biebl: > Strictly speaking, the tmpfiles.d mechanism is not tied > to a particular init. It's just that no-one has provided an > implementation for non-systemd. > > Untrue. The OpenRC people have had a tmpfiles utility since 2012.

Setting info on received mail after changing home_mailbox in Postfix

2016-08-05 Thread soko.tica
Hello list! I have changed the home_mailbox format from default mbox to Maildir, according to the instructions at https://wiki.debian.org/Postfix#Maildir After the change, when I login through ssh to the box I always get "No mail." The same with command: user@box:~$ mail No mail for user Althoug

Re: Limiting internet access by time

2016-08-05 Thread Brian
On Fri 05 Aug 2016 at 13:48:54 -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: > On Fri, Aug 05, 2016 at 03:49:28PM +, Mark Fletcher wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 11:04 PM Brian wrote: > > > > I didn't mention earlier, and I'm not sure if it is relevant, but the > > computer connects via WiFi to my access poin

Re: Problem with NON-STANDARD install

2016-08-05 Thread Richard Owlett
On 8/1/2016 10:37 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: *CAVEAT LECTOR* I _KNOW_ I'm doing an *ATYPICAL* install. I *REQUIRE* Grub to be its own partition. The Debian 8.4 installer at least recognizes that some users would desire Grub to be in its own partition. [massive SNIP] I've been thinking ;/ My orig

Re: Limiting internet access by time

2016-08-05 Thread Brian
On Fri 05 Aug 2016 at 15:49:28 +, Mark Fletcher wrote: > On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 11:04 PM Brian wrote: > > > Sticking with the idea of using a systemd service file, the script it > > runs would check the time and alter the routing table when necessary. > > Neither cron nor iptables need come

Re: Mythtv has lost all its on screen text

2016-08-05 Thread Ric Moore
On 08/05/2016 10:20 AM, Alan Chandler wrote: On 05/08/16 15:14, Ric Moore wrote: On 08/04/2016 07:12 PM, Alan Chandler wrote: I have mythtv installed from debian multimedia. I am running testing Once you introduce Debian Multimedia to your mix, you get to keep all the broken pieces. "These pa

Re: nosh and redo have moved

2016-08-05 Thread Andre Majorel
On 2016-08-05 11:40 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > So far, no links have included what I'd call a blow by blow, which > resulted in his projects being moved. It's not in any of the links in his message but in https://jdebp.eu/about-the-site.html In a nutshell, Virgin Media shut http://homepage.n

Re: Limiting internet access by time

2016-08-05 Thread Dan Ritter
On Fri, Aug 05, 2016 at 03:49:28PM +, Mark Fletcher wrote: > On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 11:04 PM Brian wrote: > > I didn't mention earlier, and I'm not sure if it is relevant, but the > computer connects via WiFi to my access point, which is also my network's > internet gateway -- with an LFS box

Re: nosh and redo have moved

2016-08-05 Thread Andre Majorel
On 2016-08-05 12:36 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > Point taken. The pruning is an attempt to keep each individual > mailbox readable in a reasonable length of time by kmail. A > couple of my folders have no expiry, are over 2Gb in size. It > takes a good 45 seconds to sort and display the list when

Re: debian version ID

2016-08-05 Thread Seeker
On 8/1/2016 1:53 AM, Felix Miata wrote: Ben Finney composed on 2016-08-01 03:20 (UTC-0400): Felix Miata wrote: Will someone please explain (or point to, since it's not in release notes), why: 1: /etc/os-release (in Jessie at least) does not include the point release version as represent

Re: nosh and redo have moved

2016-08-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 05 August 2016 11:59:32 Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Fri, Aug 05, 2016 at 11:40:46AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > As for noticing the announcements, my expiry rules for this list > > have already nuked the last of those messages just 3 or 4 days ago. > > If I had future use for someth

Re: nosh and redo have moved

2016-08-05 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Aug 05, 2016 at 11:40:46AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > As for noticing the announcements, my expiry rules for this list have > already nuked the last of those messages just 3 or 4 days ago. If I had > future use for something it gets marked and excluded from those rules. > I'll set tha

Re: nosh and redo have moved

2016-08-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 05 August 2016 09:41:00 David Wright wrote: > On Thu 04 Aug 2016 at 21:13:19 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Thursday 04 August 2016 19:34:44 Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote: > > > The whole sorry tale of why is on the new WWW site. The upshot of > > > it is that nosh and redo are i

Re: Limiting internet access by time

2016-08-05 Thread David Wright
On Fri 05 Aug 2016 at 15:03:47 (+0100), Brian wrote: > On Fri 05 Aug 2016 at 12:00:28 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > On Friday 05 August 2016 11:40:28 Brian wrote: > > > > > > How essential is this? cron could > > > > > > ip route add default via > > > > > > at specific times between 9pm and 9a

Re: Limiting internet access by time

2016-08-05 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 11:04 PM Brian wrote: > On Fri 05 Aug 2016 at 12:00:28 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > On Friday 05 August 2016 11:40:28 Brian wrote: > > Let us look at this from a different angle. If the machine is given a > fixed address it negates the need for dhcp checking, If, addition

Re: Mythtv has lost all its on screen text

2016-08-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 05 August 2016 10:20:16 Alan Chandler wrote: > On 05/08/16 15:14, Ric Moore wrote: > > On 08/04/2016 07:12 PM, Alan Chandler wrote: > >> I have mythtv installed from debian multimedia. I am running > >> testing > > > > Once you introduce Debian Multimedia to your mix, you get to keep >

Re: Limiting internet access by time

2016-08-05 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 4:26 PM Lars Noodén wrote: > > iptables has some match extensions that will work with UTC time, > specifically the extensions --timestart and --timestop Using those you > should be able to make rules that operate all the time but block traffic > during the specified hours.

Re: (OT) Disable Secure Boot, et al

2016-08-05 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Fri, 5 Aug 2016 08:00:04 +0200 didier gaumet wrote: > Le 05/08/2016 à 02:25, Patrick Bartek a écrit : > > Hi! All, > > > > Anyway to enter UEFI Firmware Setup on contemporary UEFI W8/10 > > notebooks without having to go through Windows? That is, is there > > a keyboard combo, secret button

Re: Mythtv has lost all its on screen text

2016-08-05 Thread Brad Rogers
On Fri, 5 Aug 2016 00:12:21 +0100 Alan Chandler wrote: Hello Alan, >I have mythtv installed from debian multimedia. I am running testing You'd be better off asking on the Debian MultiMedia list. If you wish to subscribe, here's the address. dmo-discussion-requ...@deb-multimedia.org?subject=s

Re: nosh and redo have moved

2016-08-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 05 August 2016 08:26:08 Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Thu, 04 Aug 2016, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Thursday 04 August 2016 19:34:44 Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote: > > > The whole sorry tale of why is on the new WWW site. The upshot of > > > it is that nosh and redo are in a

Re: Mythtv has lost all its on screen text

2016-08-05 Thread Alan Chandler
On 05/08/16 15:14, Ric Moore wrote: On 08/04/2016 07:12 PM, Alan Chandler wrote: I have mythtv installed from debian multimedia. I am running testing Once you introduce Debian Multimedia to your mix, you get to keep all the broken pieces. "These packages are known to not integrate well with o

Re: Limiting internet access by time

2016-08-05 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Fri, 5 Aug 2016 at 20:00, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 05 August 2016 11:40:28 Brian wrote: > > On Fri 05 Aug 2016 at 00:02:40 +, Mark Fletcher wrote: > > > On a stretch box I have, I want to allow access to the Internet between > > > the hours of 9am and 9pm and block it between 9pm and

Re: Mythtv has lost all its on screen text

2016-08-05 Thread Ric Moore
On 08/04/2016 07:12 PM, Alan Chandler wrote: I have mythtv installed from debian multimedia. I am running testing Once you introduce Debian Multimedia to your mix, you get to keep all the broken pieces. "These packages are known to not integrate well with other software packages in Debian and

Re: Limiting internet access by time

2016-08-05 Thread Brian
On Fri 05 Aug 2016 at 12:00:28 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Friday 05 August 2016 11:40:28 Brian wrote: > > > > How essential is this? cron could > > > > ip route add default via > > > > at specific times between 9pm and 9am and then remove the default route. > > If the machine isn't up all th

Re: nosh and redo have moved

2016-08-05 Thread David Wright
On Thu 04 Aug 2016 at 21:13:19 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 04 August 2016 19:34:44 Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote: > > > The whole sorry tale of why is on the new WWW site. The upshot of it > > is that nosh and redo are in a new place. > > > No, it does not offer any explanation o

Re: New Distro

2016-08-05 Thread deloptes
Satya Prakash Prasad wrote: > I am totally confused on steps to achieve creating a new Debian Distro - > my requirement is that we need to create a new OS image where we just have > packages that are required. > > Now is there a way where minimum packages details data is available - how > do we k

New Distro

2016-08-05 Thread Satya Prakash Prasad
I am totally confused on steps to achieve creating a new Debian Distro - my requirement is that we need to create a new OS image where we just have packages that are required. Now is there a way where minimum packages details data is available - how do we know what extra needs to be added - where

Re: nosh and redo have moved

2016-08-05 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 04 Aug 2016, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 04 August 2016 19:34:44 Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote: > > The whole sorry tale of why is on the new WWW site. The upshot of it > > is that nosh and redo are in a new place. > > > No, it does not offer any explanation of why you come in here

Re: Limiting internet access by time

2016-08-05 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 05 August 2016 11:40:28 Brian wrote: > On Fri 05 Aug 2016 at 00:02:40 +, Mark Fletcher wrote: > > On a stretch box I have, I want to allow access to the Internet between > > the hours of 9am and 9pm and block it between 9pm and 9am. Ideally allow > > local network access throughout bu

Re: Limiting internet access by time

2016-08-05 Thread Brian
On Fri 05 Aug 2016 at 00:02:40 +, Mark Fletcher wrote: > On a stretch box I have, I want to allow access to the Internet between the > hours of 9am and 9pm and block it between 9pm and 9am. Ideally allow local > network access throughout but block Internet access between 9pm and 9am, > but I c

Re: Limiting internet access by time

2016-08-05 Thread Lars Noodén
On 08/05/2016 03:02 AM, Mark Fletcher wrote: > On a stretch box I have, I want to allow access to the Internet between the > hours of 9am and 9pm and block it between 9pm and 9am. Ideally allow local > network access throughout but block Internet access between 9pm and 9am, > but I can accept total

How to prevent /tmp files from being deleted at reboot

2016-08-05 Thread Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
Michael Biebl: There are 3 kind of "timestamps": Access - the last time the file was read Modify - the last time the file was modified (content has been modified) Change - the last time meta data of the file was changed (e.g. permissions) Not on all flavours of Debian. Debian FreeBSD has 4.

How to prevent /tmp files from being deleted at reboot

2016-08-05 Thread Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
Michael Biebl: > Strictly speaking, the tmpfiles.d mechanism is not tied to a particular init. It's just that no-one has provided an implementation for non-systemd. Untrue. The OpenRC people have had a tmpfiles utility since 2012.