debian version ID

2016-07-31 Thread Felix Miata
Will someone please explain (or point to, since it's not in release notes), why: 1: /etc/os-release (in Jessie at least) does not include the point release version as represented by /etc/debian_version 2: 8.5 (as installed here on host gx62b) is not using the (LTS) 4.4 kernel -- "The wise are

how to install previous releases

2016-07-31 Thread Wen Hao Wang
Hi, I like to install some previous releases, like Debian 8.3 and 7.10. But I failed to get download page from www.debian.org. How/where can I get them? Thanks in advance.

Re: Downloading and naming

2016-07-31 Thread Stephen Powell
On Sun, Jul 31, 2016, at 19:07, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Le 01/08/2016 à 00:00, Stephen Powell a écrit : >> one's processor supports PAE, but the motherboard only supports a maximum of >> 2 GiB of RAM, what does a PAE kernel buy one? Nothing, as far as I can see. > > PAE allows to use the NX/XD b

Re: Downloading and naming

2016-07-31 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 01/08/2016 à 00:00, Stephen Powell a écrit : one's processor supports PAE, but the motherboard only supports a maximum of 2 GiB of RAM, what does a PAE kernel buy one? Nothing, as far as I can see. PAE allows to use the NX/XD bit on CPU which support it to prevent execution of data memory

Re: Downloading and naming

2016-07-31 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 31 July 2016 23:00:24 Stephen Powell wrote: > If you like Ubuntu better than Debian, fine.  Use Ubuntu.  Nobody's > stopping you.  But don't come over here and try to tell us that we should > be doing things the way Ubuntu does.  We're different for a reason.  I'm > not saying there isn't

Re: Downloading and naming

2016-07-31 Thread Stephen Powell
On Sun, Jul 31, 2016, at 03:46, Brian Wengel wrote: > > Dear Debian community > > Maybe it’s just me, but as a rather new-comer to the Debian world a few > things puzzles me. > > 1: Going to the download section is like being taken 15 years back. Isn’t > it time to take the step to move away fro

Re: wicd trouble [Solved]

2016-07-31 Thread Glenn English
> On Jul 31, 2016, at 9:38 AM, Brian wrote: > > A successful ping is an indication of association between interface and > AP, although there would be other ways of determining this. It says > little or nothing about the state of routing. Whatever is being pinged > needn't have a route to the int

Re: Which package should my bugreport concern?

2016-07-31 Thread Charlie Kravetz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 15:41:48 +0200 Dimitri Chausson wrote: >Hi, > >I want to report a bug / strange behaviour I noticed since my last Debian OS >update, but I do not know from which package it originates. The symptoms are >visible in XFCE 's "wor

Re: Downloading and naming

2016-07-31 Thread Joe
On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 10:59:44 +0200 "Brian Wengel" wrote: > I guess I wasn't cleardon't see my post as a wish or argument for > larger image sizes or the like. Actually the smaller the better, I > agree. I'm talking about media. The debian developers should erase > CD/DVD from their brian, and

Re: Downloading and naming

2016-07-31 Thread Ric Moore
On 07/31/2016 04:59 AM, Brian Wengel wrote: I guess I wasn't cleardon't see my post as a wish or argument for larger image sizes or the like. Actually the smaller the better, I agree. I'm talking about media. The debian developers should erase CD/DVD from their brian, and only focus on the t

Re: wicd trouble [Solved]

2016-07-31 Thread Brian
On Sat 30 Jul 2016 at 17:21:47 -0600, ghe wrote: > Fixing ping made everything all better again -- wicd verifies only on static > wireless configs. There's a question in my mind why anyone would do that, > but I'm sure it seemed like a good idea to the programmer. A successful ping is an indicati

Re: wicd trouble -- continued

2016-07-31 Thread Brian
On Sat 30 Jul 2016 at 12:45:50 +0100, Brian wrote: > On Fri 29 Jul 2016 at 16:44:43 -0600, ghe wrote: > > > When I set up a static IP, wicd fills in the net mask and the default router > > automatically. I don't know where it gets the info, but the values and the > > table are the same as the tab

Re: Downloading and naming

2016-07-31 Thread limpia
On 2016-07-31 08:32, Andre Majorel wrote: On 2016-07-31 10:59 +0200, Brian Wengel wrote: I'm talking about media. The debian developers should erase CD/DVD from their brian, and only focus on the technologies we use today and have used for many years. My main computer, the one on which I'm wr

Re: Downloading and naming

2016-07-31 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 7/31/16, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > > Brian Wengel wrote: >> Are we seriously discussing floppy images? :-P > > As said, small is beautiful. Oh, oh, ohh.. I went back to the thread to find a place for my last thought. THIS is the place. I debootstrap my Debian in. On locally provided dialup.

Re: Downloading and naming

2016-07-31 Thread David Wright
On Sun 31 Jul 2016 at 10:59:44 (+0200), Brian Wengel wrote: > I guess I wasn't cleardon't see my post as a wish or argument for larger > image sizes or the like. > Actually the smaller the better, I agree. > I'm talking about media. The debian developers should erase CD/DVD from their > bri

Which package should my bugreport concern?

2016-07-31 Thread Dimitri Chausson
Hi, I want to report a bug / strange behaviour I noticed since my last Debian OS update, but I do not know from which package it originates. The symptoms are visible in XFCE 's "workspace switcher". (http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-panel/pager#workspace_switcher) Can you give me a matching pack

Re: Downloading and naming

2016-07-31 Thread Erwan David
Le 31/07/2016 à 15:32, Andre Majorel a écrit : > On 2016-07-31 10:59 +0200, Brian Wengel wrote: > >> I'm talking about media. The debian developers should erase >> CD/DVD from their brian, and only focus on the technologies we >> use today and have used for many years. > My main computer, the one o

Re: Downloading and naming

2016-07-31 Thread Andre Majorel
On 2016-07-31 10:59 +0200, Brian Wengel wrote: > I'm talking about media. The debian developers should erase > CD/DVD from their brian, and only focus on the technologies we > use today and have used for many years. My main computer, the one on which I'm writing this, cannot boot off USB. Install

Re: Bash command completion

2016-07-31 Thread David
On 7 July 2016 at 08:06, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > So have you followed the suggestion to test whether it is in fact bash that > you are in fact using? > > lisi@Tux-II:~$ echo $SHELL > /bin/bash > lisi@Tux-II:~$ In case anyone is unaware, it might be generally helpful to clarify what this test actual

Re: Downloading and naming

2016-07-31 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 7/31/16, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 31 July 2016 09:59:44 Brian Wengel wrote: >> I'm talking about media. The debian developers should erase CD/DVD from >> their brian, and only focus on the technologies we use today and have >> used >> for many years. > > I'm glad that you are rich and live

Re: Downloading and naming

2016-07-31 Thread rhkramer
On Sunday, July 31, 2016 04:14:37 AM Mark Fletcher wrote: > On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 at 08:49, Brian Wengel wrote: ... > > I’m not saying the images should not be DVD compatible, but make the USB > > the primary media in guides/naming etc….and perhaps make a link at the > > bottom of the download pag

Re: Downloading and naming

2016-07-31 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 31 July 2016 09:59:44 Brian Wengel wrote: > I'm talking about media. The debian developers should erase CD/DVD from > their brian, and only focus on the technologies we use today and have used > for many years. I'm glad that you are rich and live in a rich country. Many aren't and don't

Re: Downloading and naming

2016-07-31 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 31 July 2016 08:46:36 Brian Wengel wrote: > Dear Debian community > > Maybe it’s just me, but as a rather new-comer to the Debian world a few > things puzzles me. > > 1: Going to the download section is like being taken 15 years back. Isn’t > it time to take the step to move away from the

Re: Downloading and naming

2016-07-31 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Brian Wengel wrote: > Are we seriously discussing floppy images? :-P As said, small is beautiful. > I think it was a wrong place to target my post, > as Mark pointed out debian-cd mailing list would be my guess. Nevertheless, it's much of a user related topic, too. > The debian developer

RE: Downloading and naming

2016-07-31 Thread Brian Wengel
I guess I wasn't cleardon't see my post as a wish or argument for larger image sizes or the like. Actually the smaller the better, I agree. I'm talking about media. The debian developers should erase CD/DVD from their brian, and only focus on the technologies we use today and have used for

Re: Downloading and naming

2016-07-31 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Brian Wengel wrote: > I know the CD/DVD images also work on USB but maybe it’s time to actually > stop calling it CD/DVD images? "CD/DVD/BD/WholeDisk" images ? The feature to boot from USB stick is not bound to USB but rather to the perception of the booting firmware and kernel, that the dev

Re: Downloading and naming

2016-07-31 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 at 08:49, Brian Wengel wrote: > Dear Debian community > > Maybe it’s just me, but as a rather new-comer to the Debian world a few > things puzzles me. > > 1: Going to the download section is like being taken 15 years back. Isn’t > it time to take the step to move away from the

Downloading and naming

2016-07-31 Thread Brian Wengel
Dear Debian community Maybe it’s just me, but as a rather new-comer to the Debian world a few things puzzles me. 1: Going to the download section is like being taken 15 years back. Isn’t it time to take the step to move away from the CD/DVD media and move into the USB Flash drive arena? I know th