Re: Mate problems

2016-07-28 Thread Frank McCormick
On 28/07/16 06:56 PM, Norbert Kiszka wrote: Dnia 2016-07-27, śro o godzinie 22:27 -0400, Frank McCormick pisze: On 27/07/16 09:33 PM, Frank McCormick wrote: On 27/07/16 07:32 PM, Norbert Kiszka wrote: Dnia 2016-07-27, śro o godzinie 19:10 -0400, Frank McCormick pisze: On 27/07/16 06:41 PM, No

Re: LibreOffice toolbars & menus are rendering badly

2016-07-28 Thread Ric Moore
On 07/27/2016 05:19 PM, Borden Rhodes wrote: Good afternoon, list, I'm running an up-to-date Stretch operating system on a ca. 2010 Intel laptop chipset. I noticed last night that the toolbars and menus aren't rendering correctly. I dumped a PNG here: I had a similar problem with an old Thinkp

Re: PowerPC Debian on IBM Thinkpad 860

2016-07-28 Thread Dan Ritter
On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 07:36:39PM -0500, Spencer Gordon wrote: > Hello! I have been considering buying a used IBM Thinkpad 860 laptop for a > while now, and I was wondering if anyone had tested the PowerPC version of > Debian on this machine. I would hope to install Debian, because I don't > reall

PowerPC Debian on IBM Thinkpad 860

2016-07-28 Thread Spencer Gordon
Hello! I have been considering buying a used IBM Thinkpad 860 laptop for a while now, and I was wondering if anyone had tested the PowerPC version of Debian on this machine. I would hope to install Debian, because I don't really want to use Windows HT, OS/2 Warp, IBM AIX, or Sun Solaris. Thanks! -S

Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2016 #694

2016-07-28 Thread Borden Rhodes
Thank you, Siard. I'm grateful for help no matter who gives it! Here's the PNG of the offending toolbar in LibreOffice: https://s31.postimg.org/fanuugafv/Screenshot.png . As I hope the photo shows, the buttons render correctly when they're hovered, but otherwise whatever was on that part of the scr

Re: wicd trouble -- continued

2016-07-28 Thread Glenn English
> On Jul 28, 2016, at 5:36 AM, Brian wrote: > > Indeed; presumably it has decided association and authentication with > the access point has successfully taken place and the interface has got > an IP number. However, there does not appear to be routing between the > interface and the AP. When I

Re: Mate problems

2016-07-28 Thread Norbert Kiszka
Dnia 2016-07-27, śro o godzinie 22:27 -0400, Frank McCormick pisze: > On 27/07/16 09:33 PM, Frank McCormick wrote: > > On 27/07/16 07:32 PM, Norbert Kiszka wrote: > >> Dnia 2016-07-27, śro o godzinie 19:10 -0400, Frank McCormick pisze: > >>> On 27/07/16 06:41 PM, Norbert Kiszka wrote: > Dnia 2

Re: wicd trouble -- continued

2016-07-28 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 28 July 2016 22:15:52 Glenn English wrote: > > On Jul 28, 2016, at 1:27 PM, David Wright > > wrote: > > > > The answer may lie in the logs. Mine contains the lines > > > > 2016/07/28 07:35:36 :: Setting false IP... ←-- > > Ah! They set an IP that will get to the DHC

Re: wicd trouble -- continued

2016-07-28 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 28 July 2016 20:18:38 Brian wrote: > And if they did it could just as well be wicd (NM) as NM (wicd). Indeed. I take as much care not to have NM on the computer with wicd as vice versa. In that saga you helped with so signally, you may have noticed that I tried both several times -

Re: OK to upgrade to 8.5?

2016-07-28 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 28 July 2016 15:43:43 Jochen Spieker wrote: > (Please don't top-post. Trim the quotes and reply below the quote you > are referring to. Thanks.) Jochem - Steve is blind. Many (Most? All??)blind people find bottom posting and trimming very difficult. He is already putting paragraph

Re: wicd trouble -- continued

2016-07-28 Thread Glenn English
> On Jul 28, 2016, at 1:27 PM, David Wright wrote: > > The answer may lie in the logs. Mine contains the lines > > 2016/07/28 07:35:36 :: Setting false IP... ←-- Ah! They set an IP that will get to the DHCP server. I assume that the AP will send out something on the Ethern

Multiple sound cards in Wheezy occasionally misses ALSA motherboard card0

2016-07-28 Thread John Conover
I Added to EOF of /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf: options snd_bt87x index=-2 options snd-hda-intel index=0 options snd-usb-audio index=1 vid=0x046d pid=0x081b options snd_bt87x index=2 options snd-usb-audio index=3 vid=0x0d8c pid=0x0008 to accomodate 4 s

Re: wicd trouble -- continued

2016-07-28 Thread David Wright
On 2016-07-25 18:53, Glenn English wrote: > What does "Verifying access point association" mean, and what do you > do to make it OK? On Thu 28 Jul 2016 at 13:03:13 (-0600), Glenn English wrote: > > On Jul 28, 2016, at 5:36 AM, Brian wrote: > > It is wpa_supplicant which does the association and a

Re: wicd trouble -- continued

2016-07-28 Thread Brian
On Thu 28 Jul 2016 at 15:01:14 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Thursday 28 July 2016 14:35:09 Mike McGinn wrote: > > > > I had some trouble with wicd which I cured by making sure that network > > manager was not running. Make sure NM is stopped and does not start. > > ... by uninstalling it. No, b

Re: wicd trouble -- continued

2016-07-28 Thread Glenn English
> On Jul 28, 2016, at 12:56 PM, Jochen Spieker wrote: > >> Don't think so. NM, IIRC, implies Gnome, […] > > NACK > > I run NM without any of the big desktop environments. OK. I remember incorrectly, or I got some bad info. But I still think that's not the problem -- there's no NM around her

Re: wicd trouble -- continued

2016-07-28 Thread Glenn English
> On Jul 28, 2016, at 5:36 AM, Brian wrote: > > Indeed; presumably it has decided association and authentication with > the access point has successfully taken place and the interface has got > an IP number. However, there does not appear to be routing between the > interface and the AP. Wicd '

Re: Another appeal about Flaky browsers

2016-07-28 Thread Ric Moore
On 07/28/2016 11:31 AM, Alan McConnell wrote: Have you started it in "safe-mode"? Mo problems with it running sid and chrome directly installed from google. Ric I have to call chromium from the command-line. I have just tried 'chromium -safe-mode &'. It runs fine for a wh

Re: wicd trouble -- continued

2016-07-28 Thread Jochen Spieker
Glenn English: > > On Jul 28, 2016, at 7:35 AM, Mike McGinn > > wrote: > > > > I had some trouble with wicd which I cured by making sure that > > network manager was not running. Make sure NM is stopped and does > > not start. > > Don't think so. NM, IIRC, implies Gnome, […] NACK I run NM with

Fwd: Re: Networking nonfunctional on 8.0

2016-07-28 Thread Ric Moore
Damn, I hit send without checking send to: Forwarded Message Subject: Re: Networking nonfunctional on 8.0 Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2016 14:46:19 -0400 From: Ric Moore To: Steve Matzura On 07/28/2016 04:44 AM, Steve Matzura wrote: ifconfig -a eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWadd

Re: Networking nonfunctional on 8.0

2016-07-28 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 28/07/2016 à 11:26, Reco a écrit : Check your Ethernet cable. NO-CARRIER either means that the cable is unplugged from your NIC, or from whenever other end of the cable should be plugged to, or the cable itself is damaged. Or the internet port is damaged, or the remote port is damaged or di

Re: wicd trouble -- continued

2016-07-28 Thread Glenn English
> On Jul 28, 2016, at 7:35 AM, Mike McGinn wrote: > > I had some trouble with wicd which I cured by making sure that network > manager was not running. Make sure NM is stopped and does not start. Don't think so. NM, IIRC, implies Gnome, and my GUI is XFCD. There's already no NM anywhere. --

Re: Another appeal about Flaky browsers

2016-07-28 Thread Alan McConnell
On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 05:50:36PM -0400, Ric Moore wrote: > On 07/27/2016 05:38 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > >The rest of us aren't having the problem, so it must be something in Alan's > >personal set-up or config files. Having said which, I do find that Google > >Chrome is currently eating memory

Re: OK to upgrade to 8.5?

2016-07-28 Thread Jochen Spieker
(Please don't top-post. Trim the quotes and reply below the quote you are referring to. Thanks.) Steve Matzura: > I am running 8.0; 8.5 is out. Came out on June 24. You are right. I missed that the point release was labelled 8.5. As Lisi said: you do not need to do anything special to upgrade f

Re: OK to upgrade to 8.5?

2016-07-28 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 28 July 2016 14:36:54 Steve Matzura wrote: > I am running 8.0; 8.5 is out. Came out on June 24. Are you saying I > should wait for 9 to become stable release and then upgrade to that > version? I thought by going to 8.5 would be a good idea. Maybe not? You should upgrade regularly to g

Re: wicd trouble -- continued

2016-07-28 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 28 July 2016 14:35:09 Mike McGinn wrote: > On 07/28/2016 07:36 AM, Brian wrote: > > On Wed 27 Jul 2016 at 22:36:01 -0600, Glenn English wrote: > >>> On Jul 25, 2016, at 5:53 PM, Glenn English wrote: > >>> > >>> What does "Verifying access point association" mean > >> > >> After some lo

Re: OK to upgrade to 8.5?

2016-07-28 Thread David Wright
On Thu 28 Jul 2016 at 09:36:55 (-0400), Steve Matzura wrote: > That article talks about upgrading from 7 (Weezy) to 8 (Jessie). I am > already on 8--8.0 specifically. I was thinking of updating, maybe > upgrade is the wrong term, to 8.5. Read my other post, but I should have included this referenc

Re: Networking nonfunctional on 8.0

2016-07-28 Thread Steve Matzura
Yes. While I was waiting for a reply, I did try another, and either the connector has gone bad, or some other thing, because that seems to have been the problem. Very odd that it would fail in the manner which it did, just died in the middle of the day. On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 12:26:16 +0300, you wrot

Re: OK to upgrade to 8.5?

2016-07-28 Thread David Wright
On Thu 28 Jul 2016 at 05:21:59 (-0400), Steve Matzura wrote: > Should I follow the standard procedure--edit sources.list to include > the DVD drive (if it's not there already), then 'apt-get upgrade' > followed by 'apt-get full-upgrade'? There are some great answers accumulating in this thread, bu

Re: OK to upgrade to 8.5?

2016-07-28 Thread Steve Matzura
That article talks about upgrading from 7 (Weezy) to 8 (Jessie). I am already on 8--8.0 specifically. I was thinking of updating, maybe upgrade is the wrong term, to 8.5. On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 12:38:12 +0300, you wrote: >Steve Matzura [2016-07-28 05:21:59-04] wrote: > >> Should I follow the standar

Re: OK to upgrade to 8.5?

2016-07-28 Thread Steve Matzura
I am running 8.0; 8.5 is out. Came out on June 24. Are you saying I should wait for 9 to become stable release and then upgrade to that version? I thought by going to 8.5 would be a good idea. Maybe not? On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 11:34:01 +0200, you wrote: >Steve Matzura: >> >> Should I follow the stan

Re: wicd trouble -- continued

2016-07-28 Thread Mike McGinn
On 07/28/2016 07:36 AM, Brian wrote: On Wed 27 Jul 2016 at 22:36:01 -0600, Glenn English wrote: On Jul 25, 2016, at 5:53 PM, Glenn English wrote: What does "Verifying access point association" mean After some looking around, I found that a failure in that phase of connecting means that wi

Re: OK to upgrade to 8.5?

2016-07-28 Thread limpia
On 2016-07-28 04:21, Steve Matzura wrote: Should I follow the standard procedure--edit sources.list to include the DVD drive (if it's not there already), then 'apt-get upgrade' followed by 'apt-get full-upgrade'? When I make any changes in the sources.list file, I have found that the changes do

Re: wicd trouble -- continued

2016-07-28 Thread Brian
On Wed 27 Jul 2016 at 22:36:01 -0600, Glenn English wrote: > > On Jul 25, 2016, at 5:53 PM, Glenn English wrote: > > > > What does "Verifying access point association" mean > > After some looking around, I found that a failure in that phase of > connecting means that wicd tried to ping the AP 1

Re: What Linux distribution to use?

2016-07-28 Thread Stephen Powell
On Wed, Jul 27, 2016, at 14:29, Brian wrote: > > ... > for one machine, probably ancient but still doing a useful > job, I have > > model name : Geode(TM) Integrated Processor by AMD PCS > > That's not enough, is it? What has to done to determine its processor > class? > > I'm happy enou

Re: OK to upgrade to 8.5?

2016-07-28 Thread Teemu Likonen
Steve Matzura [2016-07-28 05:21:59-04] wrote: > Should I follow the standard procedure--edit sources.list to include > the DVD drive (if it's not there already), then 'apt-get upgrade' > followed by 'apt-get full-upgrade'? I think it's useful to follow the "standard procedure", that is the releas

Re: OK to upgrade to 8.5?

2016-07-28 Thread Jochen Spieker
Steve Matzura: > > Should I follow the standard procedure--edit sources.list to include > the DVD drive (if it's not there already), then 'apt-get upgrade' > followed by 'apt-get full-upgrade'? What do you mean with "8.5"? Debian jessie is version 8, Debian stretch ussupposed to be version 9, I th

OK to upgrade to 8.5?

2016-07-28 Thread Steve Matzura
Should I follow the standard procedure--edit sources.list to include the DVD drive (if it's not there already), then 'apt-get upgrade' followed by 'apt-get full-upgrade'?

Re: Networking nonfunctional on 8.0

2016-07-28 Thread Reco
Hi. On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 04:44:09AM -0400, Steve Matzura wrote: > 2: eth0: mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast > state DOWN group default qlen 1000 Check your Ethernet cable. NO-CARRIER either means that the cable is unplugged from your NIC, or from whenever other end of the cable should be plu

Re: Networking nonfunctional on 8.0

2016-07-28 Thread Steve Matzura
On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 20:46:23 +0200, you wrote: >Le 27/07/2016 à 15:43, Steve Matzura a écrit : >> My 8.0 system has been running great up until Monday evening when >> users started reporting they were unable to connect. Sure enough, I >> couldn't even connect from my LAN. I rebooted, looked at mes

Re: LibreOffice toolbars & menus are rendering badly

2016-07-28 Thread Siard
Borden Rhodes wrote: > Lisi: is there some other place where I can upload a PNG file and have > it display/transfer properly? Other than Instagram where I don't have > an account? I'm not Lisi, but this one is especially meant for forums, therefore rather suitable IMO: https://postimage.org/

Re: How to prevent /tmp files from being deleted at reboot

2016-07-28 Thread Josh Triplett
Michael Biebl wrote: > Now to your issue. You said you wanted time based clean-up (remove files > older then 30 days) but *not* remove them on boot. > > You've created a file /etc/tmpfiles.d/tmp.conf which overrides the > default that is shipped in /usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/tmp.conf > So far so good. Wh