Re: grub error after kernel upgrade: invalid arch independent elf-magic

2016-07-10 Thread Miroslav Zaťko
Same error here. First boot after fresh installation of Debian 8.5.0 from netinst CD finished with: -BEGIN error: invalid arch-independent ELF magic. Entering rescue mode... grub rescue> ---EN

Re: off topic Question of the day..

2016-07-10 Thread David Wright
On Sun 10 Jul 2016 at 23:22:29 (-0400), Doug wrote: > On 07/10/2016 09:20 PM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > >On Sunday, July 10, 2016 08:33:37 PM David Wright wrote: > >> BTW I do find American paper weights about as obfuscated as anything. [...] > >> Yes, paper; but how much? > > > >From a quick goo

Straying further OT, Re: off topic Question of the day..

2016-07-10 Thread David Wright
On Sun 10 Jul 2016 at 21:20:39 (-0400), rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sunday, July 10, 2016 08:33:37 PM David Wright wrote: > > BTW I do find American paper weights about as obfuscated as anything. > > I think you need to serve an apprenticeship in printing to have a clue. > > There'a website http

Re: off topic Question of the day..

2016-07-10 Thread Doug
On 07/10/2016 09:20 PM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday, July 10, 2016 08:33:37 PM David Wright wrote: > BTW I do find American paper weights about as obfuscated as anything. > I think you need to serve an apprenticeship in printing to have a clue. > There'a website http://okpaper.com/ca

Potentialy OT: Firefox downloads over 6 GB of data streaming < 1 GB movie.

2016-07-10 Thread Juan R. de Silva
Debian Jessie with Firefox 47.0.1 from Mozilla Debian Team. Firefox uses "automatic cache management", which is default. The problem showed up just recently. Today for a test sake I streamed a movie https://archive.org/details/ SoylentGreen1973. The size of MPEG4 file is 919.8 MB. All apps, wh

Re: off topic Question of the day..

2016-07-10 Thread rhkramer
On Sunday, July 10, 2016 08:33:37 PM David Wright wrote: > BTW I do find American paper weights about as obfuscated as anything. > I think you need to serve an apprenticeship in printing to have a clue. > There'a website http://okpaper.com/calculators/lbs-to-gsm that claims > to do the conversion.

Re: bluetooth headset connected but no sound

2016-07-10 Thread Bob Weber
Have you configured pavucontrol? Under the "Output Devices" tab you should see the BT headphones and other audio devices in your system. If you don't see the BT device (even if you do see it) then go to the "Configuration" tab and make sure the BT device is in Hi fi playback mode (A2DP) and not O

Re: off topic Question of the day..

2016-07-10 Thread David Wright
I'm finding this excahnge harder and harder to follow... On Sun 10 Jul 2016 at 18:28:31 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 10 July 2016 15:01:42 Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Sunday 10 July 2016 19:47:19 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Sunday 10 July 2016 14:26:01 John Hasler wrote: > > > > Gene wri

Re: off topic Question of the day..

2016-07-10 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 10 July 2016 23:51:15 Gene Heskett wrote: > I've obviously got too many hobbies. No such thing as too many hobbies!! ;-) Lisi

Re: off topic Question of the day..

2016-07-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 10 July 2016 18:45:05 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 10 July 2016 23:21:44 Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Sunday 10 July 2016 14:58:16 Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > Does the image cover the whole sheet of paper?? > > > > I can make it pretty close to borderless with another 1 or 2 > > percentage po

Re: off topic Question of the day..

2016-07-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 10 July 2016 17:27:45 David Wright wrote: > On Sun 10 Jul 2016 at 00:09:34 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > It feeds the short edge in first, unlike the paper trays, both of > > which can be set for several different sizes, but they both feed > > long edge first. So once its been grabbed

Re: off topic Question of the day..

2016-07-10 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 10 July 2016 23:21:44 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 10 July 2016 14:58:16 Lisi Reisz wrote: > > Does the image cover the whole sheet of paper?? > > I can make it pretty close to borderless with another 1 or 2 percentage > points of size increase. I was wondering whether any of the feed

Re: off topic Question of the day..

2016-07-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 10 July 2016 15:01:42 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 10 July 2016 19:47:19 Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Sunday 10 July 2016 14:26:01 John Hasler wrote: > > > Gene writes: > > > > Anything but letter, or maybe legal, is special order on this > > > > side of the pond. > > > > > > Lots of outf

Re: off topic Question of the day..

2016-07-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 10 July 2016 14:58:16 Lisi Reisz wrote: > Does the image cover the whole sheet of paper?? I can make it pretty close to borderless with another 1 or 2 percentage points of size increase. Its a logic flow diagram and to get the text in a logic box big enough to read, it occupies a min

Re: paper sizes (was: off topic Question of the day..)

2016-07-10 Thread Felix Miata
Gene Heskett composed on 2016-07-10 13:38 (UTC-0400): Wikipedia agrees, tabloid is 11x17 portrait, ledger is 17x11 landscape. But according to the other internet resources, 11x17 is a bastard American only size. It's a legacy American size, 11x8.5 letter paper times two side-by-side, one of t

Re: off topic Question of the day..

2016-07-10 Thread David Wright
On Sun 10 Jul 2016 at 00:09:34 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > It feeds the short edge in first, unlike the paper trays, both of which > can be set for several different sizes, but they both feed long edge > first. So once its been grabbed, there is still about 14.25 inches of > paper hanging ou

UEFI bootloaders (was: Re: reasons to ditch LILO before upgrading to jessie?)

2016-07-10 Thread Joel Roth
There has been some mention of booting UEFI systems in this thread. This appears to be a comprehensive resource: http://www.rodsbooks.com/efi-bootloaders/index.html Many bootloaders are covered, and the author also mentions his own project, rEFInd http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/ cheers, --

Re: How to prevent /tmp files from being deleted at reboot

2016-07-10 Thread MI
That was how it has "always" worked before. But now systemd ignores TMPTIME, and also seems to ignore it's own "age" option, unless I'm not using it right. Original Message On a testing/sid system with sysvinit-core, the script /etc/init.d/mountall-bootclean.sh (linked to /et

Re: openssl too old and what to do about it

2016-07-10 Thread Jochen Spieker
ng0: > > I am in the position where I have to run at least one Debian > stable based server, and with the recent upgrade of a search > engine, I can no longer use its proxy functionality. > This would require a version of OpenSSL which is not available in > Debian stable at this point. Which vers

Re: off topic Question of the day..

2016-07-10 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 10 July 2016 19:47:19 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 10 July 2016 14:26:01 John Hasler wrote: > > Gene writes: > > > Anything but letter, or maybe legal, is special order on this side > > > of the pond. > > > > Lots of outfits such as OfficeMax claim to stock A3. > > http://www.a4supplie

Re: off topic Question of the day..

2016-07-10 Thread Lisi Reisz
Does the image cover the whole sheet of paper?? On Sunday 10 July 2016 05:09:34 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Saturday 09 July 2016 21:51:52 rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Saturday, July 09, 2016 07:14:24 PM Gene Heskett wrote: > > > I believe it is. Checking, yes. If that is the correct size, and it

Re: off topic Question of the day..

2016-07-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 10 July 2016 14:26:01 John Hasler wrote: > Gene writes: > > Anything but letter, or maybe legal, is special order on this side > > of the pond. > > Lots of outfits such as OfficeMax claim to stock A3. > http://www.a4supplies.com/ claims to have everthing A size. Uh huh, and thats speci

Re: off topic Question of the day..

2016-07-10 Thread Brian
On Sun 10 Jul 2016 at 13:38:14 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 10 July 2016 06:34:00 deloptes wrote: > > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > > Anybody here got the magic incantation to keep it from shrinking the > > > image to unusability on the paper in the two front trays? > > > > I doubt it shrin

Re: off topic Question of the day..

2016-07-10 Thread John Hasler
Gene writes: > Anything but letter, or maybe legal, is special order on this side of > the pond. Lots of outfits such as OfficeMax claim to stock A3. http://www.a4supplies.com/ claims to have everthing A size. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: off topic Question of the day..

2016-07-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 10 July 2016 09:09:24 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 10 July 2016 05:09:34 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > I don't know how easy it is to buy A series paper in the US > > Gene, you haven't answered this. I would say, about as easy as these > pesky non-memorable American sizes are to buy over h

Re: off topic Question of the day..

2016-07-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 10 July 2016 06:34:00 deloptes wrote: > Gene Heskett wrote: > > Anybody here got the magic incantation to keep it from shrinking the > > image to unusability on the paper in the two front trays? > > I doubt it shrinks the image only when paper fed from specific tray. > Perhaps you should

Re: openssl too old and what to do about it

2016-07-10 Thread Erwan David
On Sun, Jul 10, 2016 at 06:34:09PM CEST, ng0 said: > I am not subscribed and don't plan to - please keep me in CC when > replying. > > Hi, > > I am in the position where I have to run at least one Debian > stable based server, and with the recent upgrade of a search > engine, I can no longer use

openssl too old and what to do about it

2016-07-10 Thread ng0
I am not subscribed and don't plan to - please keep me in CC when replying. Hi, I am in the position where I have to run at least one Debian stable based server, and with the recent upgrade of a search engine, I can no longer use its proxy functionality. This would require a version of OpenSSL wh

bluetooth headset connected but no sound

2016-07-10 Thread Bob
Hi list, I have connected BT headset to my debian box following the wiki https://wiki.debian.org/BluetoothUser/a2dp blueman applet successfully connects the headset and being connected the BT headset also announces the same. Jul 10 16:41:05 localhost bluetoothd[21780]: /org/bluez/hci0

Re: Docker in Debian Jessie

2016-07-10 Thread Erwan David
Le 10/07/2016 à 18:21, Gilles Mocellin a écrit : > Le 08/07/2016 à 21:08, Daniel Bareiro a écrit : >> Hello, Gilles. >> [...] > >> From what I've read here [1], it seems that this filesystem was >> introduced with Linux 3.18. And I'm using here 3.16: >> >> # uname -a >> Linux orion 3.16.0-4-amd64

Re: Docker in Debian Jessie

2016-07-10 Thread Gilles Mocellin
Le 08/07/2016 à 21:08, Daniel Bareiro a écrit : Hello, Gilles. [...] From what I've read here [1], it seems that this filesystem was introduced with Linux 3.18. And I'm using here 3.16: # uname -a Linux orion 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt25-2 (2016-04-08) x86_64 GNU/Linux Are you

Re: How to prevent /tmp files from being deleted at reboot

2016-07-10 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
On a testing/sid system with sysvinit-core, the script /etc/init.d/mountall-bootclean.sh (linked to /etc/rcS.d/) calls clean_tmp via clean_all from /lib/init/bootclean.sh . In this function it says "Don't clean remaining files if TMPTIME is negative or 'infinite'" Therefore, to never cleanup set

Re: reasons to ditch LILO before upgrading to jessie?

2016-07-10 Thread Brian
On Sun 10 Jul 2016 at 08:38:15 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 7/9/2016 4:00 PM, Stephen Powell wrote: > >[snip] > >>What I'd like to find which I've had no luck with so far, is finding a > >>Debian > >>installer cmdline option to skip the waste of time that is installation of > >>any bootloade

Re: off topic Question of the day..

2016-07-10 Thread Curt
On 2016-07-10, Gene Heskett wrote: > > That sounds like I'd get landscape without specifying it if I chose > ledger. Does anyone know if thats the case with our wheezy/tde printing > filter? Ledger isn't one of the choices, and tabloid spits out blank > paper. And according to cups, evince is

Re: reasons to ditch LILO before upgrading to jessie?

2016-07-10 Thread Richard Owlett
On 7/9/2016 4:00 PM, Stephen Powell wrote: [snip] What I'd like to find which I've had no luck with so far, is finding a Debian installer cmdline option to skip the waste of time that is installation of any bootloader. My disks get generic MBR code and Grub installed by me before any OS gets ins

Re: How to prevent /tmp files from being deleted at reboot

2016-07-10 Thread Linux-Fan
[Sat, 9 Jul 2016 23:16:29 +0200] MI wrote: [...] Sorry, I can not help with the configuration issue... :( > PS: > > IMO: If you have a program that relies on files or directories > > in /tmp being persistent, then that program is buggy, not Debian. > > It's not a program. It's just me, mostly

Re: off topic Question of the day..

2016-07-10 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 10 July 2016 05:09:34 Gene Heskett wrote: > > I don't know how easy it is to buy A series paper in the US Gene, you haven't answered this. I would say, about as easy as these pesky non-memorable American sizes are to buy over here!! Lisi

Re: off topic Question of the day..

2016-07-10 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 10 July 2016 04:43:13 Curt wrote: > On 2016-07-09, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> Is Tabloid > >> (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_size#North_American_paper_size > >>s ) in the list? > > > > I believe it is. Checking, yes. If that is the correct size, and its > > truly borderless when sel

Re: reasons to ditch LILO before upgrading to jessie?

2016-07-10 Thread Stephen Powell
On Sun, Jul 10, 2016, at 03:31, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > > AFAICS, elilo is not available any more in stretch and sid. > I'm sorry to hear that. I don't have any UEFI-based systems right now, so it's not an issue for me -- yet. But it may be someday. On the other hand, CSM-less UEFI systems ma

FIXED - I hope!! Laptop wireless problem

2016-07-10 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 02 July 2016 01:15:27 Lisi Reisz wrote: > The built in wireless on the Dell Inspiron 9300 suddenly stopped working. > > Having poked around a bit with wicd and network-manager (not > simultaneously), I am checking whether the problem is sudden hardware > failure. I plugged in a USB net

Re: reasons to ditch LILO before upgrading to jessie?

2016-07-10 Thread Brian
On Sun 10 Jul 2016 at 10:31:38 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sat, Jul 09, 2016 at 11:15:08PM +0100, Brian wrote: > > [...] > > > This is a common misconception. Debian is about providing the best free > > operating system possible. > > In your humble opinion. > > (sorry, I know I'm feedi

Re: off topic Question of the day..

2016-07-10 Thread deloptes
Gene Heskett wrote: > Anybody here got the magic incantation to keep it from shrinking the > image to unusability on the paper in the two front trays? I doubt it shrinks the image only when paper fed from specific tray. Perhaps you should think in the opposite direction - shrink the image to the

Re: Linux has come a long way

2016-07-10 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 10 July 2016 07:02:42 kamaraju kusumanchi wrote: > Linux has come a long way! I have been dreading to go wireless on my > desktop for a while. A while ago, the process was like this - grab > drivers from manufacters website, custom compile kernels, read > documentation on how to connect t

Re: off topic Question of the day..

2016-07-10 Thread Curt
On 2016-07-09, Gene Heskett wrote: >> Is Tabloid >> (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_size#North_American_paper_sizes ) >> in the list? > > I believe it is. Checking, yes. If that is the correct size, and its > truly borderless when selected as "tabloid(borderless)", if the paper > guidance

Re: reasons to ditch LILO before upgrading to jessie?

2016-07-10 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, Jul 09, 2016 at 11:15:08PM +0100, Brian wrote: [...] > This is a common misconception. Debian is about providing the best free > operating system possible. In your humble opinion. (sorry, I know I'm feeding it, but I couldn't resist). - --

Re: reasons to ditch LILO before upgrading to jessie?

2016-07-10 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 09/07/2016 à 22:41, Stephen Powell a écrit : So I'm not concerned about it's maintenance status. As long as there are PCs with a BIOS, or a CSM, lilo will remain usable. If the BIOS/CSM goes, lilo goes with it. lilo can't function without a BIOS/CSM. But for UEFI-only systems, there's elil

Re: reasons to ditch LILO before upgrading to jessie?

2016-07-10 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Le 09/07/2016 à 22:00, Brian a écrit : All well and good but the installer inexplicably offers a choice between GRUB and LILO. The installer manual is unhelpful on which to choose. A newcomer wouldn't have a clue. We do them no service with this retrograde offering. Get rid of it. What is the p