Re: Throughput riddle

2016-03-21 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 12:15:56 - (UTC) Dan Purgert wrote: > On 2016-03-18, Celejar wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm trying to understand the throughput across the different links of > > my little home network, and am perplexed by the measured wireless > > throughput. > > > > The three main devices I

Re: Throughput riddle

2016-03-21 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 11:41:05 + Bonno Bloksma wrote: > Hi, > > Responding to one part of your mail. The other parts have been covered in > other responses: > > > I was originally using one of the common 1/6/11 channels, and I switched to > > 3 since I saw a lot of other stations on those c

Re: Throughput riddle

2016-03-21 Thread Celejar
On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 21:49:43 -0700 David Christensen wrote: > On 03/20/2016 07:10 PM, Celejar wrote: > > Laptop: > > > > RX packets:922215 errors:0 dropped:1967 overruns:0 frame:0 > >TX packets:1186319 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 > >collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000

Re: User's bin path not recognised in login script

2016-03-21 Thread David Christensen
On 03/21/2016 11:03 AM, Russell Gadd wrote: The bash login script I have added in to my startup programs does not recognise /home/user/bin as part of the path, whereas it used to when I was running Linux Mint (I'm a recent refugee). I've got PATH="$HOME/bin:$PATH" in ~/.bashrc and also in ~/.prof

Re: x86_64 vs i386

2016-03-21 Thread Frank McCormick
On 21/03/16 07:23 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Monday 21 March 2016 15:11:36 Stefan Monnier wrote: to Google Chrome, which has indeed "thrown i386 machines under the bus", and What do you mean by that? There won't be any new versions of Debian's i386 version of the chromium package? Stef

Re: x86_64 vs i386

2016-03-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 21 March 2016 19:27:11 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Monday 21 March 2016 15:54:33 Gene Heskett wrote: > > You haven't noticed there have been no updates to the 32 bit stuff > > in quite a while? > > Quote at the end of last week from form a client of mine who runs a 32 > bit computer (Debian 7

Re: Multi-display - one monitor active but blank

2016-03-21 Thread Felix Miata
Oliver Elphick composed on 2016-03-21 22:56 (UTC): On Mon, 2016-03-21 at 17:27 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: Oliver Elphick composed on 2016-03-21 21:01 (UTC): > I have two monitors; the second one sometimes comes to life but is > usually blank. However, the system thinks that it is active and

Re: Linux CLI gnuplot-ish program to do maps?

2016-03-21 Thread Emanuel Berg
Tom Browder writes: > Take a look at the BRL-CAD DSP tutorial here: > > http://brlcad.org/wiki/DSP > > Is that anywhere near what you want? Not what I can see :) No, I'm talking simple maps of the physical, human world. Like the ones you would find in a Jules Verne novel. -- underground exp

Re: x86_64 vs i386

2016-03-21 Thread Tom Browder
On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 7:39 PM, John Hasler wrote: > Tom Broder writes: >> I just upgraded to Deb 8 (Jessie), 64bit, and tried Chromium but it >> didn't work for me. Downloaded Chrome from Google and it works fine. > > That doesn't mean it isn't 32 bit. Debian has multiarch support. The file d

Re: x86_64 vs i386

2016-03-21 Thread Tom Browder
On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 6:23 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Monday 21 March 2016 15:11:36 Stefan Monnier wrote: >> > to Google Chrome, which has indeed "thrown i386 machines under the bus", >> > and >> >> What do you mean by that? >> There won't be any new versions of Debian's i386 version of the >> c

Re: x86_64 vs i386

2016-03-21 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 21 March 2016 15:54:33 Gene Heskett wrote: > You haven't noticed there have been no updates to the 32 bit stuff in > quite a while? Quote at the end of last week from form a client of mine who runs a 32 bit computer (Debian 7 and TDE 3.5.13.2): My computer is telling me I have 75 updat

Re: x86_64 vs i386

2016-03-21 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 21 March 2016 15:11:36 Stefan Monnier wrote: > > to Google Chrome, which has indeed "thrown i386 machines under the bus", > > and > > What do you mean by that? > There won't be any new versions of Debian's i386 version of the > chromium package? > > > Stefan I don't know what is

Re: Multi-display - one monitor active but blank

2016-03-21 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Mon, 2016-03-21 at 23:07 +, Mark Fletcher wrote: > It couldn't be a dodgy cable, could it? > > Mark I don't think so. If that were the case it would flash on and off as the cable moved. It is resolutely blank, except just sometimes. The cable is behind the desk, so it doesn't ge tmoved. I

Re: Multi-display - one monitor active but blank

2016-03-21 Thread Mark Fletcher
It couldn't be a dodgy cable, could it? Mark On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 at 07:57, Oliver Elphick wrote: > On Mon, 2016-03-21 at 17:27 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > > Oliver Elphick composed on 2016-03-21 21:01 (UTC): > > > > > > > > I have two monitors; the second one sometimes comes to life but is > > >

Re: Multi-display - one monitor active but blank

2016-03-21 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Mon, 2016-03-21 at 17:27 -0400, Felix Miata wrote: > Oliver Elphick composed on 2016-03-21 21:01 (UTC): > > > > > I have two monitors; the second one sometimes comes to life but is > > usually blank. However, the system thinks that it is active and > > displaying. > >  > Which Debian? MATE te

Re: x86_64 vs i386

2016-03-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 21 March 2016 17:09:52 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 21 March 2016 12:08:15 The Wanderer wrote: > > On 2016-03-21 at 11:54, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Monday 21 March 2016 10:50:33 Stefan Monnier wrote: > > >>> But now all the browser coders have thrown i386 machines under > > >>> th

Re: Linux CLI gnuplot-ish program to do maps?

2016-03-21 Thread Tom Browder
On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 6:14 PM, Emanuel Berg wrote: > Is there a Linux CLI gnuplot-ish program to do maps? ... Take a look at the BRL-CAD DSP tutorial here: http://brlcad.org/wiki/DSP Is that anywhere near what you want? Best regards, -Tom

Re: Sudo

2016-03-21 Thread Richard Hector
On 21/03/16 21:35, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 09:45:32PM +1300, Richard Hector wrote: > > [...] > >> On the other hand, if I need to be some other user, like the postgres >> user, I use "sudo su postgres". There are probably better ways to do >> that, too, but again, it wor

Re: Multi-display - one monitor active but blank

2016-03-21 Thread Felix Miata
Oliver Elphick composed on 2016-03-21 21:01 (UTC): I have two monitors; the second one sometimes comes to life but is usually blank. However, the system thinks that it is active and displaying. The primary monitor is a Samsung 24" and the secondary (usually non- functioning) one a Mirai - Ch

Re: Sudo

2016-03-21 Thread Richard Hector
On 22/03/16 05:29, Charlie Kravetz wrote: > On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 11:00:13 -0500 > Michael Milliman wrote: > >> On 03/21/2016 12:22 AM, Wolf Halton wrote: >>> Sudo -i opens a session as root with environment as if you did su - >>> except your non-root admin user doesn't have to know the root pass

Re: Linux CLI gnuplot-ish program to do maps?

2016-03-21 Thread Emanuel Berg
I have now learned that: The old gmt-help list is no longer active. Please use the User forum on gmt.soest.hawaii.edu Bad move, but what the heck. -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 Emacs Gnus Blogomatic . http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573/blogomatic

Re: x86_64 vs i386

2016-03-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 21 March 2016 12:08:15 The Wanderer wrote: > On 2016-03-21 at 11:54, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Monday 21 March 2016 10:50:33 Stefan Monnier wrote: > >>> But now all the browser coders have thrown i386 machines under > >>> the bus, and I'm apparently stuck with the broken i386 stuff > >>

Multi-display - one monitor active but blank

2016-03-21 Thread Oliver Elphick
I have two monitors; the second one sometimes comes to life but is usually blank. However, the system thinks that it is active and displaying. The primary monitor is a Samsung 24" and the secondary (usually non- functioning) one a Mirai  - Chi Mei Optoelectronics 22".  Just occasionally the second

Re: Linux CLI gnuplot-ish program to do maps?

2016-03-21 Thread Emanuel Berg
Richard Hector writes: > I think gmt (Generic Mapping Tools) will do that > kind of thing. I suspect it has a tough learning > curve (but then I've never put in the effort to > learn gnuplot, either). I have now found gmane.comp.gis.gmt.user, God willing they will be the right persons to help me

Re: Linux CLI gnuplot-ish program to do maps?

2016-03-21 Thread Emanuel Berg
Richard Hector writes: > I think gmt (Generic Mapping Tools) will do that > kind of thing. I suspect it has a tough learning > curve (but then I've never put in the effort to > learn gnuplot, either). gtm seems to be exactly what I seek and a *wonderful* program! Only two problems: 1. I've

[HITB-Announce] HITBGSEC 2016 CFP

2016-03-21 Thread Hafez Kamal
The Call for Papers for the 2nd annual Hack In The Box GSEC conference in Singapore closes on the 1st of May. Call for Papers: http://gsec.hitb.org/call-for-papers/ Event Website: http://gsec.hitb.org/sg2016/ HITB GSEC is a new single track 2-day deep knowledge security conference where attendee

Re: computer cann't shut down

2016-03-21 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 03/19/2016 07:40 PM, lina wrote: shutdown -h now doesn't work. it still reboot. Lina is it rebooting to grub or the linux system you are trying to shutdown? -- Debian Jessie - KDE 4.14.2 - EXT4 - AMD64 at sda9 Registered Linux User #380263

Re: User's bin path not recognised in login script

2016-03-21 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Mon, 2016-03-21 at 18:03 +, Russell Gadd wrote: > The bash login script I have added in to my startup programs does > not  > recognise /home/user/bin as part of the path, whereas it used to when > I  > was running Linux Mint (I'm a recent refugee). I've got  > PATH="$HOME/bin:$PATH" in ~/.ba

User's bin path not recognised in login script

2016-03-21 Thread Russell Gadd
The bash login script I have added in to my startup programs does not recognise /home/user/bin as part of the path, whereas it used to when I was running Linux Mint (I'm a recent refugee). I've got PATH="$HOME/bin:$PATH" in ~/.bashrc and also in ~/.profile, together with a ~/.bash_profile which

Re: computer cann't shut down

2016-03-21 Thread Lotek
On 03/19/2016 05:40 AM, lina wrote: Every time since I installed the system, every time I tried Shut Down, it mainly restart again. I checked online and tried several methods but still don't work. Can anyone suggest me how to solve it. Thanks, The problem might be with systemd. Check the l

TV shutdown on logout

2016-03-21 Thread Floris
A weird issue: I have Debian Sid running in a multiseat [1] configuration. Seat 1 is connected to a "normal" LCD monitor. Seat 2 is connected via HDMI to a television. Last week I replaced the graphic card of seat 1 (Asus Strix geforce gtx950) but now when a user on seat 1 logout of Gnome t

Re: x86_64 vs i386

2016-03-21 Thread Curt
On 2016-03-20, David Christensen wrote: > > I would do a backup-wipe-install-restore cycle. (Yes, I'm predictable.) > LOL. -- Hypertext--or should I say the ideology of hypertext?--is ultrademocratic and so entirely in harmony with the demagogic appeals to cultural democracy that accompany (and

Re: Sudo

2016-03-21 Thread Charlie Kravetz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 11:00:13 -0500 Michael Milliman wrote: >On 03/21/2016 12:22 AM, Wolf Halton wrote: >> Sudo -i opens a session as root with environment as if you did su - >> except your non-root admin user doesn't have to know the root password.

[SOLVED] Re: Upgrade Deb 7 to 8, GNOME Flashback, terminal windows not saved: any way to save?

2016-03-21 Thread Tom Browder
On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Tom Browder wrote: > On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 12:21 PM, Tom Browder wrote: >> On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 11:45 AM, Sven Arvidsson wrote: >>> On Mon, 2016-03-21 at 11:26 -0400, Tom Browder wrote: I just upgraded and am disappointed that, even though browser

Re: Upgrade Deb 7 to 8, GNOME Flashback, terminal windows not saved: any way to save?

2016-03-21 Thread Tom Browder
On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 12:21 PM, Tom Browder wrote: > On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 11:45 AM, Sven Arvidsson wrote: >> On Mon, 2016-03-21 at 11:26 -0400, Tom Browder wrote: >>> I just upgraded and am disappointed that, even though browser >>> instances can be saved between login sessions, terminal win

Re: Upgrade Deb 7 to 8, GNOME Flashback, terminal windows not saved: any way to save?

2016-03-21 Thread Tom Browder
On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 11:45 AM, Sven Arvidsson wrote: > On Mon, 2016-03-21 at 11:26 -0400, Tom Browder wrote: >> I just upgraded and am disappointed that, even though browser >> instances can be saved between login sessions, terminal windows >> apparently can't. >> >> I have used the gconf edito

Re: x86_64 vs i386

2016-03-21 Thread The Wanderer
On 2016-03-21 at 11:54, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 21 March 2016 10:50:33 Stefan Monnier wrote: > >>> But now all the browser coders have thrown i386 machines under >>> the bus, and I'm apparently stuck with the broken i386 stuff >>> left behind. >> >> What do you mean by that? >> >> >> S

Re: x86_64 vs i386

2016-03-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 21 March 2016 11:11:36 Stefan Monnier wrote: > > to Google Chrome, which has indeed "thrown i386 machines under the > > bus", and > > What do you mean by that? > There won't be any new versions of Debian's i386 version of the > chromium package? > > > Stefan Exactly. Cheers, Gen

Re: Sudo

2016-03-21 Thread Michael Milliman
On 03/21/2016 12:22 AM, Wolf Halton wrote: Sudo -i opens a session as root with environment as if you did su - except your non-root admin user doesn't have to know the root password. Hmm...I wasn't aware of that particular switchdon't need su anymore that way. Next install may be su-less

Re: x86_64 vs i386

2016-03-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 21 March 2016 10:50:33 Stefan Monnier wrote: > > But now all the browser coders have thrown i386 machines under the > > bus, and I'm apparently stuck with the broken i386 stuff left > > behind. > > What do you mean by that? > > > Stefan "who still uses 32bit userland pretty much

Re: Upgrade Deb 7 to 8, GNOME Flashback, terminal windows not saved: any way to save?

2016-03-21 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Mon, 2016-03-21 at 11:26 -0400, Tom Browder wrote: > I just upgraded and am disappointed that, even though browser > instances can be saved between login sessions, terminal windows > apparently can't. > > I have used the gconf editor and found setting: > >   apps | gnome-session | options | au

Upgrade Deb 7 to 8, GNOME Flashback, terminal windows not saved: any way to save?

2016-03-21 Thread Tom Browder
I just upgraded and am disappointed that, even though browser instances can be saved between login sessions, terminal windows apparently can't. I have used the gconf editor and found setting: apps | gnome-session | options | auto_save_session which is checked, but the terminals still disappear

Re: x86_64 vs i386

2016-03-21 Thread Stefan Monnier
> to Google Chrome, which has indeed "thrown i386 machines under the bus", and What do you mean by that? There won't be any new versions of Debian's i386 version of the chromium package? Stefan

Re: "Debian Way" to automate startup of svnserve?

2016-03-21 Thread Alberto Luaces
Mark Fletcher writes: > Having played around with Linux From Scratch on another machine, I know > that systemd scripts for svnserve have been done -- curious as to why > Debian doesn't include one and if I'd be doing anything "wrong" from a > Debian perspective if I just lifted such a script from

Re: x86_64 vs i386

2016-03-21 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 21 March 2016 14:50:33 Stefan Monnier wrote: > > But now all the browser coders have thrown i386 machines under the bus, > > and I'm apparently stuck with the broken i386 stuff left behind. > > What do you mean by that? > > > Stefan "who still uses 32bit userland pretty much every

elinks and links2 don't verify ssl certificates at all on debian 8

2016-03-21 Thread Georgi Guninski
Slightly paraphrased from the cypherpunks mailing list: https://cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2016-March/012574.html [OT] Would someone please check if links2 and elinks verify certificates on clean install of Debian 8? ...elinks and links2 don't verify ssl certificates at all on Debian

Re: x86_64 vs i386

2016-03-21 Thread Stefan Monnier
> But now all the browser coders have thrown i386 machines under the bus, > and I'm apparently stuck with the broken i386 stuff left behind. What do you mean by that? Stefan "who still uses 32bit userland pretty much everywhere"

"Debian Way" to automate startup of svnserve?

2016-03-21 Thread Mark Fletcher
I am running Jessie updated weekly on a self-built PC with Intel Core i7-920 and 24GB RAM. I am running an SVN server on this machine which is used locally and by several other machines on my network including 2 Windows VMs hosted on this machine. My system uses systemd as that is the Debian defaul

Re: Throughput riddle

2016-03-21 Thread Dan Purgert
On 2016-03-18, Celejar wrote: > Hi, > > I'm trying to understand the throughput across the different links of > my little home network, and am perplexed by the measured wireless > throughput. > > The three main devices I'm interested in: > > Router: Buffalo WZR-HP-G300NH running OpenWrt (Chaos Cal

RE: Throughput riddle

2016-03-21 Thread Bonno Bloksma
Hi, Responding to one part of your mail. The other parts have been covered in other responses: > I was originally using one of the common 1/6/11 channels, and I switched to 3 > since I saw a lot of other stations on those channels. > This may have resulted in some improvement, but I'm still stu

Re: Sudo

2016-03-21 Thread shawn wilson
On Mar 21, 2016 5:56 AM, "Lisi Reisz" wrote: > > On Monday 21 March 2016 04:51:35 Jude DaShiell wrote: > > When you installed LinuMint I'm going to make a wag here and figure you > > didn't put a password in for root and because of that LinuMint put your > > user account in /etc/sudoers as part of

Re: Bond and Bridge problem

2016-03-21 Thread Mimiko
On 21.03.2016 09:31, Igor Cicimov wrote: > The problem is when I do `service networking restart` I get this message: > RTNETLINK answers: invalid argument > Failed to bring up br0 So, to overcome MTU problem, this is my interfaces: auto eth0 iface eth0 inet manual bo

Re: Bond and Bridge problem

2016-03-21 Thread Mimiko
On 21.03.2016 09:31, Igor Cicimov wrote: > The problem is when I do `service networking restart` I get this message: > RTNETLINK answers: invalid argument > Failed to bring up br0 I found the rout cause of this error: ip link set dev br0 mtu 9000 up RTNETLINK answers: Inva

Re: Bond and Bridge problem [Off-list]

2016-03-21 Thread Mimiko
On 21.03.2016 00:30, Tom H wrote: [Off-list] Try rewriting "/etc/network/interfaces" as (I didn't check the actual bond and bridge options): iface eth0 inet manual bond-master bond0 iface eth1 inet manual bond-master bond0 iface bond0 inet manual bond-mode 802.3ad bond-miimon 100 bond-downde

Re: Sudo

2016-03-21 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 21 March 2016 04:51:35 Jude DaShiell wrote: > When you installed LinuMint I'm going to make a wag here and figure you > didn't put a password in for root and because of that LinuMint put your > user account in /etc/sudoers as part of its installation routine. I don't think that Linux Min

Re: Further to my installation error

2016-03-21 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 21 March 2016 05:02:12 David Christensen wrote: > On 03/20/2016 04:00 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > It had one - on sda. It wanted the one on sdb as well. I wanted the one > > on sdb left alone. I got what I wanted when I insisted, and the > > resultant installation was quite happy just us

Re: Sudo

2016-03-21 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 09:45:32PM +1300, Richard Hector wrote: [...] > On the other hand, if I need to be some other user, like the postgres > user, I use "sudo su postgres". There are probably better ways to do > that, too, but again, it works.

Re: Sudo

2016-03-21 Thread Richard Hector
On 21/03/16 17:30, Michael Milliman wrote: > On the other hand, I use both su and sudo. If I have a protracted > session with several different tasks that I need to complete all > requiring root access I su to the root user. If on the other hand, I > only need to perform a single command, or so,

Re: x86_64 vs i386

2016-03-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 21 March 2016 00:20:28 David Christensen wrote: > On 03/20/2016 04:08 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Sunday 20 March 2016 15:35:54 David Christensen wrote: > >> I'm curious about "2 new drives". What's the intended purpose of > >> the machine? What drive(s) are already installed? Any

Re: Bond and Bridge problem

2016-03-21 Thread Igor Cicimov
On 21 Mar 2016 6:37 pm, "Mimiko" wrote: > > On 21.03.2016 09:31, Igor Cicimov wrote: >> >> Hold on what is vlan doing here? Remove the vlan line and try again. > > > Igor, I tried lot of options to change and comment out, including this one, before posting here. So this option does not create a pr

Re: Bond and Bridge problem

2016-03-21 Thread Mimiko
On 21.03.2016 09:31, Igor Cicimov wrote: Hold on what is vlan doing here? Remove the vlan line and try again. Igor, I tried lot of options to change and comment out, including this one, before posting here. So this option does not create a problem. It is here for future vlan tagging enabling

Re: Bond and Bridge problem

2016-03-21 Thread Igor Cicimov
On 21 Mar 2016 5:13 am, "Mimiko" wrote: > > Hello. > > Recently I want to extend my existing bond to be also a bridge to use qemu-kvm. As seen in examples on net this is my `interfaces` file content: > auto lo > iface lo inet loopback > > auto eth0 > iface eth0 inet manual > # bond-master bo

Re: Bond and Bridge problem

2016-03-21 Thread Mimiko
On 21.03.2016 09:05, Igor Cicimov wrote: What script are you talking about? The interfaces are set to manual in the config thus need to be manually started. /etc/init.d/networking This script does all the bring-up's of manual interfaces. The bridge config is an extension from bond configurati

Re: Bond and Bridge problem

2016-03-21 Thread Igor Cicimov
On 21 Mar 2016 5:38 pm, "Mimiko" wrote: > > On 20.03.2016 23:57, Igor Cicimov wrote: >> >> Did you bring eth0 and eth1 up? > > > > Why should I do it when script must do this all? > What script are you talking about? The interfaces are set to manual in the config thus need to be manually started.