Re: No display after installing Debian Jessie

2015-11-17 Thread Felix Miata
Dwijesh Gajadur composed on 2015-11-18 09:22 (UTC+0400): > After installing Jessie and after booting, I don't get any display. > In fact I tried to install Jessie twice trying different things. > The first time I installed Jessie, I chose a desktop environment(XFCE). > After installing and bootin

No display after installing Debian Jessie

2015-11-17 Thread Dwijesh Gajadur
Hello guys. After installing Jessie and after booting, I don't get any display. In fact I tried to install Jessie twice trying different things. The first time I installed Jessie, I chose a desktop environment(XFCE). After installing and booting, I got a distorted image and everything blocked I co

Re: dear lazyweb: looking for a special backup tool

2015-11-17 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
Hey guys. Thanks for the suggestions... I'll have a look at them :) Cheers, Chris. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature

LVM info - OTHER than HOWTO's

2015-11-17 Thread Richard Owlett
In some of my reading I came across a page recommending LVM for ease of adjusting space. When searching for more information all I'm finding are essentially HOWTO's with only a couple of paragraphs on "Whats" and "Whys". Essentially nothing on "Why not". No information on dual boot. Suggest

Re: how execute a script

2015-11-17 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 17 Nov 2015, Brian wrote: > $mv file other. > $gunzip -S . other. > $ls > other > > gunzip is a tool that does seem to care what the files are named. See the --no-name/--name option. By default the name and timestamp of the uncompressed file is saved when the file is compressed s

Re: Your attempts to communicate

2015-11-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 17 November 2015 18:33:04 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Tuesday 17 November 2015 23:18:01 Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 17 November 2015 13:40:06 Bob Bernstein wrote: > > > On Tue, 17 Nov 2015, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: > > > > Anyway,.. I don't think that anything is wrong with the

Re: Your attempts to communicate

2015-11-17 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 17 November 2015 23:18:01 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 17 November 2015 13:40:06 Bob Bernstein wrote: > > On Tue, 17 Nov 2015, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: > > > Anyway,.. I don't think that anything is wrong with the S/MIME > > > that Evolution applies, in fact, as you could read

Re: Your attempts to communicate

2015-11-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 17 November 2015 13:40:06 Bob Bernstein wrote: > On Tue, 17 Nov 2015, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: > > Anyway,.. I don't think that anything is wrong with the S/MIME > > that Evolution applies, in fact, as you could read, other > > people could verify it. > > Aha. Did evolution verif

Re: how execute a script

2015-11-17 Thread Brian
On Tue 17 Nov 2015 at 21:41:01 +0100, Luis Felipe Tabera Alonso wrote: > On Tuesday 17 November 2015 20:21:23 Brian wrote: > > > > I've also asked for a *concrete example* of a program not opening a file > > because of the lack of an extension. It hasn't yet been given. > > $ gunzip file > gzip

Re: how execute a script

2015-11-17 Thread Brian
On Tue 17 Nov 2015 at 21:18:57 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 06:56:40PM +, Brian wrote: > > [...] > > > My example: gv does not recognise the PDF file 'test' as something it is > > *capable of opening*. With 'test' as the only file in a directory the > > command gv

Re: how execute a script

2015-11-17 Thread shawn wilson
On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 5:17 PM, shawn wilson wrote: > shouldn't be relied on (also see ftimes xmagic for a more featureful > magic implementation w/e sf comes back up). Ugh, it's back now: http://ftimes.sourceforge.net/FTimes/XMagic.shtml

Re: how execute a script

2015-11-17 Thread shawn wilson
On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 4:25 PM, wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 04:13:48PM -0500, shawn wilson wrote: >> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 3:24 PM, wrote: > > [...] > >> > Now you lost me. >> > >> >> If magic were smarter (was able to derive from synt

Re: how execute a script

2015-11-17 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 04:13:48PM -0500, shawn wilson wrote: > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 3:24 PM, wrote: [...] > > Now you lost me. > > > > If magic were smarter (was able to derive from syntax or had regex > capability in the format), it could've

Re: how execute a script

2015-11-17 Thread John Hasler
shawn wilson wrote: > Oh and before someone says "but there's some standard that says you're > supposed to put a shebang at the top" - afaik, it's not in POSIX > anywhere: > http://www.in-ulm.de/~mascheck/various/shebang/ tomas writes: > You forgot to mention that it's in AT&T Unix since 1979. I'd

Re: how execute a script

2015-11-17 Thread shawn wilson
On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 3:24 PM, wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 03:15:21PM -0500, shawn wilson wrote: >> > % file t.sh >> > t.sh: ASCII text >> > % cat t.sh >> > max=10 >> > >> >> Oh and before someone says "but there's some standard that sa

Re: how execute a script

2015-11-17 Thread Luis Felipe Tabera Alonso
On Tuesday 17 November 2015 20:21:23 Brian wrote: > > I've also asked for a *concrete example* of a program not opening a file > because of the lack of an extension. It hasn't yet been given. $ gunzip file gzip: file: unknown suffix -- ignored $mv file other.gz $gunzip other.gz $ls other

Re: how execute a script

2015-11-17 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 03:15:21PM -0500, shawn wilson wrote: > > % file t.sh > > t.sh: ASCII text > > % cat t.sh > > max=10 > > > > Oh and before someone says "but there's some standard that says you're > supposed to put a shebang at the top" - afa

Re: how execute a script

2015-11-17 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 06:56:40PM +, Brian wrote: [...] > My example: gv does not recognise the PDF file 'test' as something it is > *capable of opening*. With 'test' as the only file in a directory the > command gv plus TAB completion doesn't p

Re: how execute a script

2015-11-17 Thread Brian
On Tue 17 Nov 2015 at 14:57:58 -0500, shawn wilson wrote: > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Brian wrote: > > On Tue 17 Nov 2015 at 14:05:25 -0500, shawn wilson wrote: > > > >> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Brian wrote: > >> > On Tue 17 Nov 2015 at 13:08:49 -0500, shawn wilson wrote: > >> > >

Re: how execute a script

2015-11-17 Thread shawn wilson
> % file t.sh > t.sh: ASCII text > % cat t.sh > max=10 > Oh and before someone says "but there's some standard that says you're supposed to put a shebang at the top" - afaik, it's not in POSIX anywhere: http://www.in-ulm.de/~mascheck/various/shebang/ So, magic dropped the ball - should've been

Re: how execute a script

2015-11-17 Thread David Wright
Excuse me for reversing your paragraphs. On Tue 17 Nov 2015 at 18:56:40 (+), Brian wrote: > On Tue 17 Nov 2015 at 13:08:49 -0500, shawn wilson wrote: > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 1:02 PM, Chris Bannister > > wrote: > > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 09:31:53AM -0500, shawn wilson wrote: > > >> O

Re: Your attempts to communicate

2015-11-17 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 17 November 2015 17:31:06 Bob Bernstein wrote: > I believe the poster is trying to sign his messages with > smime. My fairly recent version of alpine 2.20 tells me that his > messages bear a "cryptographic signature," but that those > signatures cannot be "verified." > > Please allow me

Re: how execute a script

2015-11-17 Thread shawn wilson
On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 2:57 PM, shawn wilson wrote: > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Brian wrote: >> On Tue 17 Nov 2015 at 14:05:25 -0500, shawn wilson wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Brian wrote: >>> > On Tue 17 Nov 2015 at 13:08:49 -0500, shawn wilson wrote: >>> > >>> >> On T

Re: how execute a script

2015-11-17 Thread shawn wilson
On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Brian wrote: > On Tue 17 Nov 2015 at 14:05:25 -0500, shawn wilson wrote: > >> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Brian wrote: >> > On Tue 17 Nov 2015 at 13:08:49 -0500, shawn wilson wrote: >> > >> >> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 1:02 PM, Chris Bannister >> >> wrote: >>

Re: how execute a script

2015-11-17 Thread Brian
On Tue 17 Nov 2015 at 14:05:25 -0500, shawn wilson wrote: > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Brian wrote: > > On Tue 17 Nov 2015 at 13:08:49 -0500, shawn wilson wrote: > > > >> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 1:02 PM, Chris Bannister > >> wrote: > >> > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 09:31:53AM -0500, shawn wil

Re: Your attempts to communicate

2015-11-17 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Tue, 17 Nov 2015, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: ..your cert has expired on 2015-03-12. That's helpful, thank you. It explains why the message's sig cannot even be verified by the running instance of alpine that created it (if I look at said message in my sent messages file). I think

Re: how execute a script

2015-11-17 Thread shawn wilson
On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 1:56 PM, Brian wrote: > On Tue 17 Nov 2015 at 13:08:49 -0500, shawn wilson wrote: > >> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 1:02 PM, Chris Bannister >> wrote: >> > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 09:31:53AM -0500, shawn wilson wrote: >> >> On Nov 16, 2015 5:37 PM, "Lisi Reisz" wrote: >> >> >

Re: how execute a script

2015-11-17 Thread shawn wilson
On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 1:25 PM, Elimar Riesebieter wrote: > * shawn wilson [2015-11-17 13:08 -0500]: > >> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 1:02 PM, Chris Bannister >> wrote: >> > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 09:31:53AM -0500, shawn wilson wrote: > > [...] > >> >> communicated (via its extension). If you crea

Re: how execute a script

2015-11-17 Thread Brian
On Tue 17 Nov 2015 at 13:08:49 -0500, shawn wilson wrote: > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 1:02 PM, Chris Bannister > wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 09:31:53AM -0500, shawn wilson wrote: > >> On Nov 16, 2015 5:37 PM, "Lisi Reisz" wrote: > >> > department has been trying for an hour". Puzzled, beca

Re: Your attempts to communicate

2015-11-17 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Tue, 2015-11-17 at 13:40 -0500, Bob Bernstein wrote: > Aha. Did evolution verify my smime sig in the message I just > sent to the list? Nope, your cert has expired on 2015-03-12. Chris. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature

Re: Your attempts to communicate

2015-11-17 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, > other people could verify it. Urm, not in my case. It's just that alpine can stand it. The error message when opening Message-ID: <1447719799.6941.4.ca...@scientia.net> is Couldn't verify S/MIME signature: certificate verify error The header Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="

Re: Your attempts to communicate

2015-11-17 Thread John Hasler
tomas writes: > Sure, I would expect Gmail to do nearly anything, but KMail falling > flat on its face due to mangled input coming from somewhere out there > is in my eyes a bug (or worse). Yes, I said it was a bug in Kmail. I was pointing out that it may be one that is only triggered when a part

Re: Your attempts to communicate

2015-11-17 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Tue, 17 Nov 2015, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: Anyway,.. I don't think that anything is wrong with the S/MIME that Evolution applies, in fact, as you could read, other people could verify it. Aha. Did evolution verify my smime sig in the message I just sent to the list? If the Debian

Re: how execute a script

2015-11-17 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
* shawn wilson [2015-11-17 13:08 -0500]: > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 1:02 PM, Chris Bannister > wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 09:31:53AM -0500, shawn wilson wrote: [...] > >> communicated (via its extension). If you create a pdf, it is bad to not > >> have the pdf extension - you've lost da

Re: Your attempts to communicate

2015-11-17 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Tue, 2015-11-17 at 14:18 +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > I can live without being able to read emails form one individual > ever. Gosh... I never got so much meta-answers around one of my mails itself... In any case, if your MUA crashes based on whichever mail it reads,... than it's likely a bug, a

Re: How to configure cron (and pam?) to allow mail from cron?

2015-11-17 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 07:04:38AM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 09:05:03AM -0600, David Wright wrote: > > Alternatively you could get cron to run a normal script and do > > everything in that. Just don't be caught naming your

Re: how execute a script

2015-11-17 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 07:02:01AM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 09:31:53AM -0500, shawn wilson wrote: > > On Nov 16, 2015 5:37 PM, "Lisi Reisz" wrote: > > > department has been trying for an hour". Puzzled, because I though

Re: how execute a script

2015-11-17 Thread shawn wilson
On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 1:02 PM, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 09:31:53AM -0500, shawn wilson wrote: >> On Nov 16, 2015 5:37 PM, "Lisi Reisz" wrote: >> > department has been trying for an hour". Puzzled, because I thought I had >> > sent a .pdf, and had checked that it opened

Re: Your attempts to communicate

2015-11-17 Thread Bob Bernstein
I believe the poster is trying to sign his messages with smime. My fairly recent version of alpine 2.20 tells me that his messages bear a "cryptographic signature," but that those signatures cannot be "verified." Please allow me to do the samd, i.e. sign with smime. -- Bob Bernstein smime.p7

Re: How to configure cron (and pam?) to allow mail from cron?

2015-11-17 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 09:05:03AM -0600, David Wright wrote: > Alternatively you could get cron to run a normal script and do > everything in that. Just don't be caught naming your script > "script.sh" :) Especially if it's written in Perl. :) -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have

Re: how execute a script

2015-11-17 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 09:31:53AM -0500, shawn wilson wrote: > On Nov 16, 2015 5:37 PM, "Lisi Reisz" wrote: > > department has been trying for an hour". Puzzled, because I thought I had > > sent a .pdf, and had checked that it opened fine in Evince, I looked at > the > > file - groaned - and ren

Re: Debian Desktop Environment

2015-11-17 Thread Václav Ovsík
On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 09:45:47AM -0700, pjw wrote: > On Tue, Oct 27, 2015, at 06:01 AM, Mateusz Kozłowski wrote: > > > > Hi, Could You tell me which debian desktop environment is the most > > security... > > Apropos: > > Debian Moves To Non-Root X.Org Server By Default[1] I'm afraid only if st

Re: Debian Desktop Environment

2015-11-17 Thread pjw
On Tue, Oct 27, 2015, at 06:01 AM, Mateusz Kozłowski wrote: > > Hi, Could You tell me which debian desktop environment is the most > security... Apropos: Debian Moves To Non-Root X.Org Server By Default[1] Links: 1. http://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/linux-graphics-x-org-drivers/x-org-drm

lost onboard network connection on stretch

2015-11-17 Thread Gary Dale
After an upgrade & reboot last week, I lost my onboard network connection on my Stretch/AMD64 system. I can still see the device using lspci: 05:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 06) but it doesn't come up.

Re: Debian DeskTop

2015-11-17 Thread moxalt
On Tue, 17 Nov 2015 09:18:11 +1100, Tony wrote: > I have just installed Debian 8.2. How do I get the Desk Top to show on the > screen? On boot-up, the green Debian desk Top shows for a few seconds and The 'green Debian desktop' that you are describing is probably the GRUB background. That is not

Re: How to configure cron (and pam?) to allow mail from cron?

2015-11-17 Thread David Wright
On Sat 14 Nov 2015 at 21:25:47 (-0500), Kynn Jones wrote: > On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 8:36 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Saturday 14 November 2015 17:58:59 Kynn Jones wrote: > > > >> I'm trying to set up a `cron` job that will send me mail for some > >> outputs. > >> > >> In my `crontab` I have the

Re: how execute a script

2015-11-17 Thread shawn wilson
On Nov 16, 2015 5:37 PM, "Lisi Reisz" wrote: > > On Monday 16 November 2015 19:33:51 David Wright wrote: > > On Mon 16 Nov 2015 at 06:54:40 (+0100), Martin Str|mberg wrote: > > > In article David Wright > wrote: > > > > As for script-file extensions in DOS, there was really only .BAT > > > > was

Re: Your attempts to communicate

2015-11-17 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 17 November 2015 13:42:54 Markus Schc3b6nhaber wrote: > Am 17.11.2015 um 01:42 schrieb Lisi Reisz: > > My email client chokes on your signature. If I make any attempt to > > reply, my email client freezes. > > Then your mail client is broken. > > > So I have deleted both your emails. >

Re: Your attempts to communicate

2015-11-17 Thread Markus Schönhaber
Am 17.11.2015 um 01:42 schrieb Lisi Reisz: > My email client chokes on your signature. If I make any attempt to reply, my > email client freezes. Then your mail client is broken. > So I have deleted both your emails. > > Try: sorting out your signature (I don't know what is wrong with it), A

Re: Your attempts to communicate

2015-11-17 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 07:08:18AM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > Chris Bannister writes: > > Perhaps a bug in KMail? > > Or Gmail buggering up the OpenSSL signature in such a way as to tickle a > bug in Kmail. I would expect Gmail to mangle cryptograph

Re: Your attempts to communicate

2015-11-17 Thread John Hasler
Chris Bannister writes: > Perhaps a bug in KMail? Or Gmail buggering up the OpenSSL signature in such a way as to tickle a bug in Kmail. I would expect Gmail to mangle cryptographic signatures. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: dear lazyweb: looking for a special backup tool

2015-11-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 17 November 2015 03:14:50 Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Hi, > > Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: > > I'm looking for a backup solution with quite some specific needs,... > > My scdbackup with xorriso as backend might nearly do what > you want: > http://scdbackup.sourceforge.net/main_eng.html

Re: openjdk 8 on Debian wheezy 7.9

2015-11-17 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 01:45:32PM -0800, David Christensen wrote: > On 11/16/2015 12:14 PM, Dwijesh Gajadur wrote: > >I am using Debian Wheezy 7.9. How can I install openjdk 8 on it? ... > 1. For wheezy-backports, there does not appear to be a newer version of > openjdk-7-sdk. ... > 3. For jessi

Re: no SMART support for western digital drive

2015-11-17 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 12:36:53AM -0500, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote: > Thanks for pointing this out. I wonder why a new version is not > compiled even though a bug report > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=789721 was filed > almost 5 months ago. May be this package is not being act

Re: dear lazyweb: looking for a special backup tool

2015-11-17 Thread Jonathan Dowland
I *think* you should be able to achieve this via Bacula and a lot of time configuring it, but I haven't tried myself. I've been considering whether to add some optical discs to my backup system as a 3rd backup after local HDD and remote HDD, and Bacula is where I would start if I ever get to it.

Re: how execute a script

2015-11-17 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 10:37:28PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: [...] > I take it those who are so against file endings are equally upset by > sources.list and menu.lst? I don't know who "those who are so against file endings" are, in your mind. To (p

Re: how execute a script

2015-11-17 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 12:29:00PM -0600, David Wright wrote: [...] > > Whereas in UNIX, a file name is just a string: very few characters are > > special: steer clear of NUL and slash. If you want to have an easy life > > with shell scripts, steer c

Re: dear lazyweb: looking for a special backup tool

2015-11-17 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: > I'm looking for a backup solution with quite some specific needs,... My scdbackup with xorriso as backend might nearly do what you want: http://scdbackup.sourceforge.net/main_eng.html It initially demands some configuration effort http://scdbackup.source

Re: Your attempts to communicate

2015-11-17 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 12:42:55AM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > My email client chokes on your signature. If I make any attempt to reply, my > email client freezes. > > So I have deleted both your emails. > > Try: sorting out your signature (I don't