Re: Starting systemd user services on boot on a Debian server [SOLVED]

2015-10-16 Thread Fredrik Jonson
Michael Biebl wrote: > Am 16.10.2015 um 19:05 schrieb Fredrik Jonson: > > > If in doubt, do install this package. > > Did you maybe misread that as > "If in doubt, do *not* install this package". Yes I did. I don't know how many times I've read that sentence, and clearly saw a _not_ in ther

Re: claws-mail does not display menu-bar

2015-10-16 Thread briand
On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 15:06:23 +0300 moonsh...@openmailbox.org wrote: > On 16-10-2015 12:13, Alex Moonshine wrote: > > On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 22:18:58 -0700 > > wrote: > > > >> that's horrible UI design. Menu bar goes away without a hint of how > >> to get it back ? > >> > > > > Ever tried pressin

Installing a Firefox syncserver on my Jessie desktop computer. Need help...

2015-10-16 Thread Paul E Condon
I run a fully updated plain-vanilla Jessie 8.2 with systemd. I found the following web page which I want to try to use: https://docs.services.mozilla.com/howtos/run-sync-1.5.html The instructions are breif and seemingly very clear. Installing the needed software was straightforward. The only devia

Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi

2015-10-16 Thread ray
This is very close. Debian is installed via Live. The network is not functioning. History: With the non-free iso - Booting in CSM: Isolinux.bin missing or corrupt. No bootable device -- insert boot disk and press any key Booting in UEFI: No bootable device -- Please restart system

Re: smartphone forum for the technically-oriented

2015-10-16 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 08:38:29PM -0500, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: > On Fri, October 16, 2015 8:02 pm, dean wrote: > > What kind of smart phone? > > That is what I wish to learn. > > If samsung televisions have a microphone, what surveillance should we > expect of a samsung smartphone which has

Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi

2015-10-16 Thread moxalt
On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 14:34:22 -0700 (PDT), ray wrote: > That sounds great, I will try that right now. > > Can files be added to the USB? > > I am guessing that since the USB is not mounted, DD does not require any type > of prep. You won't need to add any files to the image (though you could af

Re: smartphone forum for the technically-oriented

2015-10-16 Thread rlharris
On Fri, October 16, 2015 8:02 pm, dean wrote: > What kind of smart phone? That is what I wish to learn. If samsung televisions have a microphone, what surveillance should we expect of a samsung smartphone which has both microphone and camera? Instinctively, I distrust microsoft and apple. Beside

Re: Extract substring from cat

2015-10-16 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 10/16/15, Jonathan wrote: > On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 14:15:46 +0200 > "Alfred Charles Stockton" wrote: > >> Now what I would like to do is to only print the substring "Debian >> GNU/Linux 8 (jessie)" from the 1st line, preferably in bash. >> >> Please tell me how I should go about this? > > lsb_rel

Re: smartphone forum for the technically-oriented

2015-10-16 Thread dean
On 10/17/15 07:49, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: > I would like to find something like a smartphone discussion list for the > technically-oriented -- not for the "Isn't Siri marvelous?" crowd. I am > interested in liabilities regarding security and privacy, rather than in > features. > > I spend muc

Re: systemd alternative for Jessie?

2015-10-16 Thread David Wright
Quoting tom arnall (kloro2...@gmail.com): > what prevents Debian from providing an alternate boot option in Jessie > which does not use systemd? My Wheezy system seems to do this. (Yes, this is the correct thread for this question.) Wheezy had systemd included as a "technology preview". I don't t

Re: make system boot straight to browser connection

2015-10-16 Thread David Wright
Quoting Richard Owlett (rowl...@cloud85.net): > David Wright wrote: > >Quoting Lisi Reisz (lisi.re...@gmail.com): > >>On Friday 16 October 2015 01:46:16 Joel Rees wrote: > >>>One problem is that some kiosk mode techniques assume that you really > >>>don't want to login at all, where others will req

Re: make system boot straight to browser connection

2015-10-16 Thread Glenn English
> On 10/7/15, tom arnall wrote: >> I want to setup a system so that when the power button is pushed on >> the PC, the system connects to the internet and starts a browser >> without a login or any other intervention by the user. >> >> There are no security issues. >> >> Is this doable? Sure, n

Re: systemd alternative for Jessie?

2015-10-16 Thread tom arnall
what prevents Debian from providing an alternate boot option in Jessie which does not use systemd? My Wheezy system seems to do this.

Re: make system boot straight to browser connection

2015-10-16 Thread tom arnall
what prevents Debian from providing an alternate boot option in Jessie which does not use systemd? My Wheezy system seems to do this. On 10/7/15, tom arnall wrote: > I want to setup a system so that when the power button is pushed on > the PC, the system connects to the internet and starts a brow

Re: Extract substring from cat

2015-10-16 Thread Jonathan
On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 14:15:46 +0200 "Alfred Charles Stockton" wrote: > Now what I would like to do is to only print the substring "Debian > GNU/Linux 8 (jessie)" from the 1st line, preferably in bash. > > Please tell me how I should go about this? lsb_release -ds from lsb-release package.

Re: adobe flash player in iceweasel does not work anymore in jessie

2015-10-16 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 09 September 2015 14:56:54 Brian wrote: > I've just did a completely new installation of flashplugin-nonfree on a > machine which had never seen it. Your eternally turning white circle is > what I get. My feeling is that this has something to do with protected > video on 4od. > >   > h

Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi

2015-10-16 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 16 October 2015 22:34:22 ray wrote: > I am guessing that since the USB is not mounted, DD does not require any > type of prep.   It would destroy any prep you had done. ;-) Now the netinstall with firmware might work!! Lisi

Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi

2015-10-16 Thread ray
That sounds great, I will try that right now. Can files be added to the USB? I am guessing that since the USB is not mounted, DD does not require any type of prep.

smartphone forum for the technically-oriented

2015-10-16 Thread rlharris
I would like to find something like a smartphone discussion list for the technically-oriented -- not for the "Isn't Siri marvelous?" crowd. I am interested in liabilities regarding security and privacy, rather than in features. I spend much time on the highway, and Internet access (to view a map,

Re: make system boot straight to browser connection

2015-10-16 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 16 October 2015 21:13:43 Richard Owlett wrote: > I skipped Wheezy for two reasons: >    Gnome3 default UI was unusable >    systemd was/is terra igcognita. Not using Wheezy to avoid systemd is novel. All you have to do to use Wheezy and avoid systemd is install a default Wheezy. > I tr

Re: make system boot straight to browser connection

2015-10-16 Thread Brian
On Fri 16 Oct 2015 at 17:49:01 -0300, Renaud OLGIATI wrote: > On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 09:46:16 +0900 > Joel Rees wrote: > > > How much EASIER it would be if you would only give in to the > > inevitable coming standardization on systemd. > > Are you aware how this sound, which bringsg to mind "We ar

Re: make system boot straight to browser connection

2015-10-16 Thread Ron
On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 09:46:16 +0900 Joel Rees wrote: > How much EASIER it would be if you would only give in to the > inevitable coming standardization on systemd. Are you aware how this sound, which bringsg to mind "We are systemd of Borg, resistance is futile"... Cheers, Ron. --

Re: make system boot straight to browser connection

2015-10-16 Thread Richard Owlett
David Wright wrote: Quoting Lisi Reisz (lisi.re...@gmail.com): On Friday 16 October 2015 01:46:16 Joel Rees wrote: One problem is that some kiosk mode techniques assume that you really don't want to login at all, where others will require you to make a choice of which user login to auto-login a

Re: make system boot straight to browser connection

2015-10-16 Thread Richard Owlett
Joel Rees wrote: On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 5:29 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: [snip] How to do an autologin? In a DE independent way? http://manpages.debian.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=autologin&apropos=1 gave no relevant links. A Google search gave only decade old or DE rela

Re: Starting systemd user services on boot on a Debian server [SOLVED]

2015-10-16 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 16.10.2015 um 19:05 schrieb Fredrik Jonson: > If in doubt, do install this package. > > When debian developers tells me in their package documentation that I really > should not install their package, I tend to follow their advice. :) Did you maybe misread that as "If in doubt, do *not* ins

Notebook for Debian 8.2 jessie ( solved )

2015-10-16 Thread Peter Berlau
Hi, i buyed this notebook Lenovo G700 Windows 7 Pro 64Bit - 43.94 cm (17,3 Zoll) - 8GB RAM - ultraschnelle 508GB SSH - USB3.0 - Intel Pentium 2020M, 2x2,4GHz http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00K6KFRFM?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00 and all I have to do was put the Debian-CD

Re: SOLVED - Re: fstab entry for a 3.6TB drive

2015-10-16 Thread Felix Miata
Sharon Kimble composed on 2015-10-16 18:48 (UTC+0100): > So the final solution, for the benefit of the archives, is - > ╭ > │/dev/sdb1 /mnt/backa ext4defaults,nofail,x-gvfs-show 0 > 2 > ╰ > Thanks all who provided solutions, which helped me to achieve the final >

Re: Unable to Install Stretch on Laptop, not Loading iwlwifi

2015-10-16 Thread moxalt
On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 04:51:49 -0700 (PDT), ray wrote: > > This seems very strange- if you are able to get the free version to boot you > > should be able to get the non-free ISO to boot as well. They are identical, > > save the inclusion of non-free firmware. > Yes. > > > > The 'no bootable devi

Re: No monitor in GNOME Control Center - Color

2015-10-16 Thread Pascal Obry
Sven, > (No need to cc me, I'm subscribed to the list) Understood. That's different for different people. I think it is more polite to CC people you're talking too. But again, that's quite personal, so sorry for CCed you. > No, this is on an Intel system. > > As I mentioned on the gtk-gnome lis

SOLVED - Re: fstab entry for a 3.6TB drive

2015-10-16 Thread Sharon Kimble
Cindy-Sue Causey writes: > On 10/15/15, Sharon Kimble wrote: >> Darac Marjal writes: >> >>> Also, does /back-a exist (mount won't create the mountpoint itself, so >>> your root filesystem should have a "back-a" directory entry)? >>> >> Thanks Darac. >> >> This is what I've ended up doing - >> >

Re: FW: xfsdump package not available in testing?

2015-10-16 Thread Sharon Kimble
Nemeth Gyorgy writes: > 2015-10-16 08:04 keltezéssel, James Homuth írta: > >> Poking around the Debian packages website, xfsdump should be available >> in Stretch per that page (link included below). However: >> # apt-get install xfsdump >> Reading package lists... >> D

Re: Starting systemd user services on boot on a Debian server [SOLVED]

2015-10-16 Thread Fredrik Jonson
Ansgar Burchardt wrote: > Fredrik Jonson writes: > > What is the recommended way to enable Systemd user services with Debian? > [...] > The documentation for "loginctl enable-linger" says "If enabled for a > specific user, a user manager is spawned for the user at boot and kept > around after

Re: No monitor in GNOME Control Center - Color

2015-10-16 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Fri, 2015-10-16 at 18:35 +0200, Pascal Obry wrote: > Sven, > > > You're not the only one. My eyes also bleed from lack of color > > management ;) > > One more question, are you using the NVIDIA proprietary driver? > > I really suspect an issue related to recent upgrade as I don't have > this

Re: No monitor in GNOME Control Center - Color

2015-10-16 Thread Pascal Obry
Sven, > You're not the only one. My eyes also bleed from lack of color > management ;) One more question, are you using the NVIDIA proprietary driver? I really suspect an issue related to recent upgrade as I don't have this issue on another machine not using the proprietary driver. Thanks, --

Re: make system boot straight to browser connection

2015-10-16 Thread David Wright
Quoting Lisi Reisz (lisi.re...@gmail.com): > On Friday 16 October 2015 01:46:16 Joel Rees wrote: > > One problem is that some kiosk mode techniques assume that you really > > don't want to login at all, where others will require you to make a > > choice of which user login to auto-login as. > > Su

Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

2015-10-16 Thread David Wright
Quoting rlhar...@oplink.net (rlhar...@oplink.net): > On Fri, October 16, 2015 2:30 am, Joe wrote: > > Yes, that should work. I believe your initial difficulty was in setting > > the IP address on your computer to one in the same network as the original > > printer's address. > > That, and not unde

Re: No monitor in GNOME Control Center - Color

2015-10-16 Thread Pascal Obry
Hi Sven, > You're not the only one. My eyes also bleed from lack of color > management ;) Good to hear I'm not the only one! Cheers, -- Pascal Obry / Magny Les Hameaux (78) The best way to travel is by means of imagination http://v2p.fr.eu.org http://www.obry.net gpg --keyserver

Re: Extract substring from cat

2015-10-16 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 02:54:25PM +0200, Nemeth Gyorgy wrote: > 2015-10-16 14:15 keltezéssel, Alfred Charles Stockton írta: > > > > If I issue the command cat /etc/*-release on my Debian system I get:- > > > > PRETTY_NAME="Debian GNU/Linux 8 (jessie

Re: Extract substring from cat

2015-10-16 Thread John L. Cunningham
On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 02:15:46PM +0200, Alfred Charles Stockton wrote: > > If I issue the command cat /etc/*-release on my Debian system I get:- > > PRETTY_NAME="Debian GNU/Linux 8 (jessie)" > NAME="Debian GNU/Linux" > VERSION_ID="8" > VERSION="8 (jessie)" > ID=debian > HOME_URL="http://www.deb

Re: Extract substring from cat

2015-10-16 Thread Santiago Vila
On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 02:15:46PM +0200, Alfred Charles Stockton wrote: > Now what I would like to do is to only print the substring "Debian > GNU/Linux 8 (jessie)" from the 1st line, preferably in bash. The standard says /etc/os-release is shell-compatible, so I would do this: . /etc/os-release

Re: Extract substring from cat

2015-10-16 Thread Darac Marjal
On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 02:15:46PM +0200, Alfred Charles Stockton wrote: > > If I issue the command cat /etc/*-release on my Debian system I get:- > > PRETTY_NAME="Debian GNU/Linux 8 (jessie)" > NAME="Debian GNU/Linux" > VERSION_ID="8" > VERSION="8 (jessie)" > ID=debian > HOME_URL="http://www.deb

Re: Extract substring from cat

2015-10-16 Thread Nemeth Gyorgy
2015-10-16 14:15 keltezéssel, Alfred Charles Stockton írta: > > If I issue the command cat /etc/*-release on my Debian system I get:- > > PRETTY_NAME="Debian GNU/Linux 8 (jessie)" > NAME="Debian GNU/Linux" > VERSION_ID="8" > VERSION="8 (jessie)" > ID=debian > HOME_URL="http://www.debian.org/"; >

Extract substring from cat

2015-10-16 Thread Alfred Charles Stockton
If I issue the command cat /etc/*-release on my Debian system I get:- PRETTY_NAME="Debian GNU/Linux 8 (jessie)" NAME="Debian GNU/Linux" VERSION_ID="8" VERSION="8 (jessie)" ID=debian HOME_URL="http://www.debian.org/"; SUPPORT_URL="http://www.debian.org/support/"; BUG_REPORT_URL="https://bugs.debia

Re: claws-mail does not display menu-bar

2015-10-16 Thread moonshine
On 16-10-2015 12:13, Alex Moonshine wrote: On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 22:18:58 -0700 wrote: that's horrible UI design. Menu bar goes away without a hint of how to get it back ? Ever tried pressing F10 in Firefox?:) Actually, scratch that, sorry. It only appears the menu bar if it's turned off,

Re: iscsi support in Jessie

2015-10-16 Thread Harald Dunkel
Hi Reco, On 10/16/15 08:17, Reco wrote: > > tgt works for me in Jessie. I would not call it that user-friendly, though. > Not bad. I have missed this one. Searching for tgt I stumbled over istgt. (http://shell.peach.ne.jp/aoyama/archives/3122). Thanx very much Harri

Re: FW: xfsdump package not available in testing?

2015-10-16 Thread Nemeth Gyorgy
2015-10-16 08:04 keltezéssel, James Homuth írta: > Poking around the Debian packages website, xfsdump should be available > in Stretch per that page (link included below). However: > # apt-get install xfsdump > Reading package lists... > Done

Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

2015-10-16 Thread Joe
On 16/10/2015 09:13, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: On Fri, October 16, 2015 2:30 am, Joe wrote: Probably the router can pick up the outside address by DHCP, but if not, you know what it is. If the router cannot pick up the outside address, I am in trouble. The day I was there, the address corr

Re: claws-mail does not display menu-bar

2015-10-16 Thread Alex Moonshine
On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 22:18:58 -0700 wrote: > that's horrible UI design. Menu bar goes away without a hint of how > to get it back ? > Ever tried pressing F10 in Firefox?:) -- Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so. Best wishes, Alex S.

Re: Starting systemd user services on boot on a Debian server

2015-10-16 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Fredrik Jonson writes: > Ansgar Burchardt wrote: >> Fredrik Jonson writes: >> > What is the recommended way to set up Systemd user services with Debian? >> Just run 'loginctl enable-linger [USER]' as root. > > Initially that didn't work... > > root@host# loginctl enable-linger foouser > Faile

Re: make system boot straight to browser connection

2015-10-16 Thread Brian
On Fri 16 Oct 2015 at 09:46:16 +0900, Joel Rees wrote: > On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 5:29 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: > > Richard Owlett wrote: > >> > >> [snip] > >> > >> How to do an autologin? In a DE independent way? > >> > >> http://manpages.debian.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=autologin&apropos=1 > >>

Re: make system boot straight to browser connection

2015-10-16 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 16 October 2015 09:51:47 Brian wrote: > On Fri 16 Oct 2015 at 09:46:16 +0900, Joel Rees wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 5:29 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > Richard Owlett wrote: > > >> [snip] > > >> > > >> How to do an autologin? In a DE independent way? > > >> > > >> http://manpage

Re: No monitor in GNOME Control Center - Color

2015-10-16 Thread Sven Arvidsson
On Thu, 2015-10-15 at 23:09 +0200, Pascal Obry wrote: > In the color management module I don't have any monitor listed since > some days. I have some printers thought. > > My display ICC is still loaded when I logged on GNOME Shell, but I > cannot access it nor change it. > > Note that I'm using

Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

2015-10-16 Thread Brian
On Thu 15 Oct 2015 at 17:40:57 -0500, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: > On Thu, October 15, 2015 5:11 pm, Brian wrote: > > An ISP hands out an address in a private range and it is assigned to the > > external interface of a router? I do not understand this but know I have > > much to learn about networ

Re: make system boot straight to browser connection

2015-10-16 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 16 October 2015 01:46:16 Joel Rees wrote: > One problem is that some kiosk mode techniques assume that you really > don't want to login at all, where others will require you to make a > choice of which user login to auto-login as. Surely, if you have to make a choice it is no longer *aut

Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

2015-10-16 Thread rlharris
On Fri, October 16, 2015 2:30 am, Joe wrote: > Yes, that should work. I believe your initial difficulty was in setting > the IP address on your computer to one in the same network as the original > printer's address. That, and not understanding that the ip address reported by Windows was assigned

Re: make system boot straight to browser connection

2015-10-16 Thread Martin Smith
On 16/10/2015 01:46, Joel Rees wrote: On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 5:29 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: Richard Owlett wrote: [snip] How to do an autologin? In a DE independent way? http://manpages.debian.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=autologin&apropos=1 gave no relevant links. A Google search gave only d

Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

2015-10-16 Thread Joe
On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 23:11:45 +0100 Brian wrote: > > An ISP hands out an address in a private range and it is assigned to > the external interface of a router? I do not understand this but know > I have much to learn about networking. Any enlightenment in the > offing? > That's an easy one. An

Re: direct ethernet connection between computer and printer

2015-10-16 Thread Joe
On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 17:47:22 -0500 rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: > On Thu, October 15, 2015 5:27 pm, Felix Miata wrote: > > An internet router with wireless turned off and no connection to a > > WAN nevertheless remains a functional switch. Thus "unconnected" it > > should function no differently tha

Re: Starting systemd user services on boot on a Debian server

2015-10-16 Thread Fredrik Jonson
Ansgar Burchardt wrote: > Fredrik Jonson writes: > > What is the recommended way to set up Systemd user services with Debian? > > Just run 'loginctl enable-linger [USER]' as root. Initially that didn't work... root@host# loginctl enable-linger foouser Failed to create bus connection: No suc