Re: Debian Gnome Or XFCE ?

2015-08-13 Thread Seeker
On 8/13/2015 4:58 AM, Bret Busby wrote: On 13/08/2015, didier gaumet wrote: Le 13/08/2015 12:13, Bret Busby a écrit : i386 is 686, and not 586 ? Yes, I think that 386 Ubuntu Linux images are build with 686 instruction set compatibility. 386 meaning here x86. Anyway, you might hav

word choices on list (Re: Laptops, UEFI, Secure Boot and Debian)

2015-08-13 Thread Joel Rees
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/shite Thus, yes, it's not appropriate language here. The problem with expletives is not in the words themselves, really. Fecal matter is what it is, whatever it is called. The problem is that the metaphor inherently fails. People hear instead that the speaker is up

Double-click doesn't work in many apps

2015-08-13 Thread Dennis Wicks
I'm running Jessie and double-click-to-open doesn't work in IceDove,FileManager, Libre, every place so far where I am used to it working previous to Jessie, it now doesn't. Anybody have any insight on this? TIA, Dennis

Re: Debian Gnome Or XFCE ?

2015-08-13 Thread Stephen Powell
On Thu, 13 Aug 2015 03:20:59 -0400 (EDT), didier gaumet wrote: > > Gnome-flashback has replaced gnome-fallback: isn't it 2D compatible, > relying on Metacity instead of Mutter? I don't know. All I know is that GNOME3 only worked for me in fallback mode, and then one day, fallback mode disappeare

Re: help trouble shooting

2015-08-13 Thread rlharris
On Thu, August 13, 2015 5:39 pm, Bob Holtzman wrote: > On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 01:11:29PM -0500, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: ... > No. If you change the subject line you do *not* start a new thread. You > hijack the existing one. Posting a new message is the only way to start a > new thread. Thank

Re: Debian Gnome Or XFCE ?

2015-08-13 Thread Seeker
On 8/13/2015 11:20 AM, Bret Busby wrote: The matter had been dealt with as much as it could, so far, and clarified a bit, without resolution, between my message to which you responded, and your response, which you would have seen, if you had read the rest of the thread past my message to which

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Re: Debian Gnome Or XFCE ?

2015-08-13 Thread didier gaumet
Le 13/08/2015 23:14, Bret Busby a écrit : > Hello. > Thank you. > Thank you for your previous clarifications. > Thank you for the solution above, which worked and solved the problem. > And, thank you for your patience with me. Great! My pleasure :-)

Re: help trouble shooting

2015-08-13 Thread Bob Holtzman
On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 01:11:29PM -0500, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: > Note that if you change the subject line, you start a new thread. And > every request should be made to the list, so that others can benefit. No. If you change the subject line you do *not* start a new thread. You hijack the e

Re: Debian 8

2015-08-13 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Thu, 13 Aug 2015, John Olson wrote: > Good afternoon, My name is John and I have ran into an issues when > installing DEBIAN 8.1.0 (Jessie). I have tried downloading and > installing the firmware pkgs that it shows were not installed during > initial install. I am new to Debian and I am trying

Re: Debian Gnome Or XFCE ?

2015-08-13 Thread Bret Busby
On 14/08/2015, didier gaumet wrote: > Le 13/08/2015 13:58, Bret Busby a écrit : > >> Thank you. >> >> That is how I managed to initially install the operating system. > > then you should probably have a grub entry with PAE enabled (forced) > >> I have not tried, and, do not know how, to apply that

Re: pulseaudio module to mute other sources?

2015-08-13 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Ralph Katz writes: > On 08/12/2015 10:46 PM, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: >> I'm reasonably confident there must be a better place to post this than >> this newsgroup, so answers telling me where to look will be just as >> welcome as any that address the question! I'm a Debian user, so this is >> where I

Re: testing (stretch): Partition disks Guided - set up encrypted LVM-- failed

2015-08-13 Thread John Hasler
nice writes: > Or must I install Jessie and then change from there to Stretch?? That is almost always the best way to install Testing, unless your intent is to help debug the installer. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Laptops, UEFI, Secure Boot and Debian

2015-08-13 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, 24 May 2015 07:50:58 +0200, Petter Adsen wrote: > But will it become something to watch out for when buying new hardware? > Most certainly, at least for a period of time. I have a sneaking > suspicion that it might become a bigger problem for laptop users than > for desktop users, although

Re: testing (stretch): Partition disks Guided - set up encrypted LVM-- failed

2015-08-13 Thread nice sw123
On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 8:27 PM, I wrote: > On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 7:11 PM, I wrote >> Hi, >> >> I would like to install testing (currently stretch) on a machine, with >> disk encryption. >> >> During the part called >> * "Partition disks" >> I choose >> * "Guided - use entire disk and set up encr

Re: Debian Gnome Or XFCE ?

2015-08-13 Thread didier gaumet
Le 13/08/2015 13:58, Bret Busby a écrit : > Thank you. > > That is how I managed to initially install the operating system. then you should probably have a grub entry with PAE enabled (forced) > I have not tried, and, do not know how, to apply that fix as part of a > kernel upgrade, and thence,

Re: help trouble shooting

2015-08-13 Thread rlharris
On Thu, August 13, 2015 1:55 pm, doug wrote: > Yes, that could be important. For instance, on this Dell laptop, there > is a button that must be pushed to enable wi-fi. If you don't push it, no > tickee, no shirtee! (It says "wifi" on it in microscopic letters.) On Lenovo laptops, the button is a

Re: help trouble shooting

2015-08-13 Thread John Olson
Here's the information on the cpu couldn't find # for wireless device On Aug 13, 2015 1:55 PM, "doug" wrote: > > On 08/13/2015 02:25 PM, Joe wrote: > >> On Thu, 13 Aug 2015 12:17:43 -0500 >> John Olson wrote: >> >> Good afternoon, My name is John and I have ran into an issues when >>> installing

Re: help trouble shooting

2015-08-13 Thread doug
On 08/13/2015 02:25 PM, Joe wrote: On Thu, 13 Aug 2015 12:17:43 -0500 John Olson wrote: Good afternoon, My name is John and I have ran into an issues when installing DEBIAN 8.1.0 (Jessie). I have tried downloading and installing the firmware pkgs that it shows were not installed during initi

Re: testing (stretch): Partition disks Guided - set up encrypted LVM-- failed

2015-08-13 Thread nice sw123
On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 7:11 PM, I wrote > Hi, > > I would like to install testing (currently stretch) on a machine, with > disk encryption. > > During the part called > * "Partition disks" > I choose > * "Guided - use entire disk and set up encrypted LVM" > > then I continue (I select SCSI1) and t

Re: help trouble shooting

2015-08-13 Thread Joe
On Thu, 13 Aug 2015 12:17:43 -0500 John Olson wrote: > Good afternoon, My name is John and I have ran into an issues when > installing DEBIAN 8.1.0 (Jessie). I have tried downloading and > installing the firmware pkgs that it shows were not installed during > initial install. I am new to Debian

Re: Debian Gnome Or XFCE ?

2015-08-13 Thread Bret Busby
On 14/08/2015, Seeker wrote: > Sorry for sending a response off list, I usually I double check the To > field before hitting send, but that didn't > happen this time. > > On 8/12/2015 9:09 PM, Bret Busby wrote: >> Since you have mentioned an "old" system, I should perhaps mention >> that apparentl

Re: help trouble shooting

2015-08-13 Thread rlharris
Note that if you change the subject line, you start a new thread. And every request should be made to the list, so that others can benefit. As I said: > On my Jessie installation, there is a Network Manager Applet which has > been adequate for my needs. The network manager was installed by defau

Re: Raid1 with disk fails not boot

2015-08-13 Thread Gary Dale
On 13/08/15 06:01 AM, Jose Legido wrote: Hello! I have a software RAID1 with 2 discs. When I get out one disk, the system not boot directly, I have to do mannually actions: Loading, please wait... Gave up waiting for root device. Common problems: - Boot args (cat /proc/cmdline) - Check roo

Re: help trouble shooting

2015-08-13 Thread Gerard ROBIN
On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 12:17:43PM -0500, John Olson wrote: > Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2015 12:17:43 -0500 > From: John Olson > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: help trouble shooting > says I need to install firmware for: *rtlwifi/rtl8192cfw.bin* and also > *rtl_nic/rtl8105e-1.fw* you install

Re: help trouble shooting

2015-08-13 Thread rlharris
On Thu, August 13, 2015 12:17 pm, John Olson wrote: > Good afternoon, My name is John and I have ran into an issues when > installing DEBIAN 8.1.0 (Jessie). The first thing you need to do is configure your mail package to send "plain text" only; HTML is irritating; it has no place on a technical

Re: Debian Gnome Or XFCE ?

2015-08-13 Thread Seeker
Sorry for sending a response off list, I usually I double check the To field before hitting send, but that didn't happen this time. On 8/12/2015 9:09 PM, Bret Busby wrote: Since you have mentioned an "old" system, I should perhaps mention that apparently, Linux has abandoned support for Celeron

help trouble shooting

2015-08-13 Thread John Olson
Good afternoon, My name is John and I have ran into an issues when installing DEBIAN 8.1.0 (Jessie). I have tried downloading and installing the firmware pkgs that it shows were not installed during initial install. I am new to Debian and I am trying to correct these following issues. says I need

Re: Acceptable use of Debian products

2015-08-13 Thread Miles Fidelman
Curt wrote: On 2015-08-13, Rohnan Donohue wrote: Hello Debian Team, I was usnure if this would be the appropriate email to message My name is Rohnan, and I am a secondary student in Victoria, Australia. I am writting to you to please ask for express permission to host Debian products on a w

testing (stretch): Partition disks Guided - set up encrypted LVM-- failed

2015-08-13 Thread nice sw123
Hi, I would like to install testing (currently stretch) on a machine, with disk encryption. During the part called * "Partition disks" I choose * "Guided - use entire disk and set up encrypted LVM" then I continue (I select SCSI1) and then * "All files in one partition (recommended for new users

Re: Acceptable use of Debian products

2015-08-13 Thread Curt
On 2015-08-13, Rohnan Donohue wrote: > > Hello Debian Team, > > I was usnure if this would be the appropriate email to message > > My name is Rohnan, and I am a secondary student in Victoria, Australia. I > am writting to you to please ask for express permission to host Debian > products on a web

Debian 8

2015-08-13 Thread John Olson
Good afternoon, My name is John and I have ran into an issues when installing DEBIAN 8.1.0 (Jessie). I have tried downloading and installing the firmware pkgs that it shows were not installed during initial install. I am new to Debian and I am trying to correct these following issues. says I need

Re: pulseaudio module to mute other sources?

2015-08-13 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
doug writes: > On 08/12/2015 10:46 PM, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: >> I'm reasonably confident there must be a better place to post this than >> this newsgroup, so answers telling me where to look will be just as >> welcome as any that address the question! I'm a Debian user, so this is >> where I'm try

Re: pulseaudio module to mute other sources?

2015-08-13 Thread Ralph Katz
On 08/12/2015 10:46 PM, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: > I'm reasonably confident there must be a better place to post this than > this newsgroup, so answers telling me where to look will be just as > welcome as any that address the question! I'm a Debian user, so this is > where I'm trying first > > Is

Re: pulseaudio module to mute other sources?

2015-08-13 Thread doug
On 08/12/2015 10:46 PM, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: I'm reasonably confident there must be a better place to post this than this newsgroup, so answers telling me where to look will be just as welcome as any that address the question! I'm a Debian user, so this is where I'm trying first Is there a

Re: Fvwm2. Was: Debian Gnome Or XFCE ?

2015-08-13 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Steve McIntyre wrote: > http://www.einval.com/~steve/debian/fvwm2rc.example I won't follow you with the sound effects. :)) My favorite personal customization is giving the Windows keys a decent job: Key Super_L A N RaiseLower Key Super_R A N RaiseLower On a previous machine there was

Re: Debian Gnome Or XFCE ?

2015-08-13 Thread Daniel Keast
On 13/08/15 13:08, Wayne Hartell wrote: I am currently a Debian Jessie XFCE user. I want to have your views on Gnome VS XFCE. I want to try Gnome but I want to know if Gnome is stable and works constantly without freezing and crashing. Please share me your experience with Debian Gnome. With Ki

Re: Debian Gnome Or XFCE ?

2015-08-13 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Wed, 12 Aug 2015, Stephen Powell wrote: > On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 20:38:19 -0400 (EDT), Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > > I've never used GNOME 3. It won't fully run on any of my systems > > since none don't have 3D capability. So, it goes into "fallback" > > mode. > > I assume you meant to say "no

Re: Fvwm2. Was: Debian Gnome Or XFCE ?

2015-08-13 Thread Steve McIntyre
Thomas Schmitt wrote: >Nicolas George wrote: >> [fvwm2] it seems ill-loved by Debian maintainers: > >the old fart user to get it to run "As It Always Was" (TM). > >Google "fvwm2rc" finds the configuration of Eric S. Raymond, >color marked examples, starter examples, ... > >After installation of fvw

Re: pulseaudio module to mute other sources?

2015-08-13 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
rlhar...@oplink.net writes: > On Wed, August 12, 2015 10:22 pm, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: >> On Wed, August 12, 2015 9:46 pm, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: > ... >>> Is there a pulseaudio module that will detect when an audio source >>> isn't silent, and mute other sources in that cases? > ... >> In the re

Re: pulseaudio module to mute other sources?

2015-08-13 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
rlhar...@oplink.net writes: > On Wed, August 12, 2015 9:46 pm, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: >> Is there a pulseaudio module that will detect when an audio source isn't >> silent, and mute other sources in that cases? > > It does not directly address your need, but I think that > pulseaudiovolumecontrol (pa

Fvwm2. Was: Debian Gnome Or XFCE ?

2015-08-13 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Nicolas George wrote: > [fvwm2] it seems ill-loved by Debian maintainers: I was prepared to give it up. Especially after knowing the configuration it had on Debian 6. Since i use that machine mainly via SSH i never bothered to try my workstation configuration file. The nearly zero functional

RE: Debian Gnome Or XFCE ?

2015-08-13 Thread Wayne Hartell
> I am currently a Debian Jessie XFCE user. > I want to have your views on Gnome VS XFCE. > I want to try Gnome but I want to know if Gnome is stable and works > constantly without freezing and crashing. > Please share me your experience with Debian Gnome. > With Kind Regards, > Dwijesh I haven

Re: Debian Gnome Or XFCE ?

2015-08-13 Thread Bret Busby
On 13/08/2015, didier gaumet wrote: > Le 13/08/2015 12:13, Bret Busby a écrit : > >> i386 is 686, and not 586 ? > > Yes, I think that 386 Ubuntu Linux images are build with 686 instruction > set compatibility. 386 meaning here x86. > > Anyway, you might have a way to force enabling PAE on

Re: Debian Gnome Or XFCE ?

2015-08-13 Thread Nicolas George
Le sextidi 26 thermidor, an CCXXIII, Thomas Schmitt a écrit : > There are several descendants of program "xeyes" around. Including xeyes itself; any half-decent window-manager should be able to swallow an arbitrary window and turn it into an applet. > As for desktops: Two months ago i tried Gnome

Re: Regarding dual boot

2015-08-13 Thread Michael Fothergill
On 13 August 2015 at 13:25, Himanshu Shekhar wrote: > Sorry dear! > I tried with all genuine methods and installed debian 8.1. > But whoa! I lost my activated version of Windows 10. I WAS able to access > all my hard drives as I did a proper shutdown but the grub os list showed > no link to windo

Re: eyes applet

2015-08-13 Thread Reco
Hi. On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 04:31:30AM -0400, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > On 8/13/15, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: > > On Thu, August 13, 2015 1:08 am, Thomas Schmitt wrote: > >> There are several descendants of program "xeyes" around. > > > > Thanks. I found in the Debian archive eyes in "gnome-ap

Re: Debian Gnome Or XFCE ?

2015-08-13 Thread didier gaumet
Le 13/08/2015 12:13, Bret Busby a écrit : > i386 is 686, and not 586 ? Yes, I think that 386 Ubuntu Linux images are build with 686 instruction set compatibility. 386 meaning here x86. Anyway, you might have a way to force enabling PAE on your Celeron in Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/

Re: Debian Gnome Or XFCE ?

2015-08-13 Thread Bret Busby
On 13/08/2015, Bret Busby wrote: > On 13/08/2015, didier gaumet wrote: >> Sorry, I did n't catch you were using Ubuntu. Apparently, Ubuntu has >> dropped support for 586 procs (their "386" linux images being in fact >> 686 ones). That's not the case in Debian, x86 non-PAE procs still being >> sup

Re: Debian Gnome Or XFCE ?

2015-08-13 Thread Bret Busby
On 13/08/2015, didier gaumet wrote: > Sorry, I did n't catch you were using Ubuntu. Apparently, Ubuntu has > dropped support for 586 procs (their "386" linux images being in fact > 686 ones). That's not the case in Debian, x86 non-PAE procs still being > supported (linux-image-*-586) > > So, the

Raid1 with disk fails not boot

2015-08-13 Thread Jose Legido
Hello! I have a software RAID1 with 2 discs. When I get out one disk, the system not boot directly, I have to do mannually actions: Loading, please wait... Gave up waiting for root device. Common problems: - Boot args (cat /proc/cmdline) - Check rootdelay: (did the system wait long enough?)

Re: Acceptable use of Debian products

2015-08-13 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Martin Read wrote: > The Debian GNU/Linux FAQ, Chapter 14 [...] > "[...] For example, many of the programs > are licensed under the GPL, which requires you to distribute their source > code." GPL requires to make the source code available, not necessarily to distribute it. GPLv2 in its expla

Re: pptp-based vpn

2015-08-13 Thread Brian
On Wed 12 Aug 2015 at 20:04:41 -0500, David Wright wrote: > Quoting Brian (a...@cityscape.co.uk): > > On Wed 12 Aug 2015 at 16:57:33 +0100, Martin Smith wrote: > > > On 12/08/2015 14:56, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > > >The care alone, even were there no societal cost, costs several orders of > > > >ma

Re: eyes applet

2015-08-13 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 8/13/15, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: > On Thu, August 13, 2015 1:08 am, Thomas Schmitt wrote: >> There are several descendants of program "xeyes" around. > > Thanks. I found in the Debian archive eyes in "gnome-applets" and in > "mate-applets". Does anyone know if either would work in xfce?

Re: Debian Gnome Or XFCE ?

2015-08-13 Thread didier gaumet
Sorry, I did n't catch you were using Ubuntu. Apparently, Ubuntu has dropped support for 586 procs (their "386" linux images being in fact 686 ones). That's not the case in Debian, x86 non-PAE procs still being supported (linux-image-*-586)

Re: Acceptable use of Debian products

2015-08-13 Thread Martin Read
On 13/08/15 07:29, Rohnan Donohue wrote: My name is Rohnan, and I am a secondary student in Victoria, Australia. I am writting to you to please ask for express permission to host Debian products on a website I am currently producing in one of my classes. This website will host only 'freeware' c

Re: Debian Gnome Or XFCE ?

2015-08-13 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 08:08:26AM +0200, Thomas Schmitt wrote: [...] > As for desktops: Two months ago i tried Gnome (eeek !) and > XFCE (moan). Then i went back to fvwm2, which is terribly > unconfigured when installed from Debian package. Similar

Re: Acceptable use of Debian products

2015-08-13 Thread David Guyot
Hello, Rohnan. Nobody will explicitly give you this permission, as it is already granted by the Debian Social Contract — https://www.debian.org/social_contract You can consequently use Debian for any goal you want. Besides, this is a user ML, so you are not contacting the Debian devs, but mainly

Re: Debian Gnome Or XFCE ?

2015-08-13 Thread Bret Busby
On 13/08/2015, didier gaumet wrote: > Le 13/08/2015 06:09, Bret Busby a écrit : > >> Since you have mentioned an "old" system, I should perhaps mention >> that apparently, Linux has abandoned support for Celeron CPU's, as, >> having installed ubuntu-mate 15.09 on my HP/Compaq NX5000 which has a >>

Re: Debian Gnome Or XFCE ?

2015-08-13 Thread didier gaumet
Le 13/08/2015 03:20, Stephen Powell a écrit : > When GNOME 3 first came out, it had a "fallback mode" for systems without > 3D graphics acceleration capability. "Fallback mode" was essentially the > GNOME 2 interface. I continued to use GNOME 3 in fallback mode for a > while. Changing desktops

Re: Debian Gnome Or XFCE ?

2015-08-13 Thread Joe
On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 17:29:38 -0400 (EDT) Stephen Powell wrote: > On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 16:07:47 -0400 (EDT), Dwijesh Gajadur wrote: > > > > Hello Debian users ?? > > > > I am currently a Debian Jessie XFCE user. > > I want to have your views on Gnome VS XFCE. > > I want to try Gnome but I want to

Re: pulseaudio module to mute other sources?

2015-08-13 Thread rlharris
On Wed, August 12, 2015 10:22 pm, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: > On Wed, August 12, 2015 9:46 pm, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: ... >> Is there a pulseaudio module that will detect when an audio source >> isn't silent, and mute other sources in that cases? ... > In the realm of broadcasting and commercial soun

Re: Debian Gnome Or XFCE ?

2015-08-13 Thread didier gaumet
Le 13/08/2015 06:09, Bret Busby a écrit : > Since you have mentioned an "old" system, I should perhaps mention > that apparently, Linux has abandoned support for Celeron CPU's, as, > having installed ubuntu-mate 15.09 on my HP/Compaq NX5000 which has a > Celeron CPU, and the associated and subsequ