Re: YAGF is a seriously screwed package

2015-07-09 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 11:03:44AM +0530, Susmita/Rajib Bandopadhyay wrote: > Dear Sirs, > > I need this software desperately to be finally free from the > strangle-hold of proprietary, closed-source software developers. You can help to maie it happe

YAGF is a seriously screwed package

2015-07-09 Thread Susmita/Rajib Bandopadhyay
Dear Sirs, I need this software desperately to be finally free from the strangle-hold of proprietary, closed-source software developers. But I am shocked to find this software being ported into stable packages, while it can do nothing. As soon as it is tried it shuts itself off. I hope the packa

Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-09 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Thu, 9 Jul 2015, John D. Hendrickson wrote: but ALL DAMN DAY every day it got IP attacks purportedly from china. It's of course still like that out there, ALL DAMN DAY, the Wild West, Main St., Dodge City, only it's mostly (I think) SSH brute force attempts. I show skeptical friends my l

Re: Free GNU/Linux intro class for teens advice? Purchase box? Squeak/Smalltalk programming

2015-07-09 Thread Marc D Ronell
> "GC" == Gabriel Corona writes: GC> Hi, >> I am still not convinced that $350 will be a major obstacle. GC> $350 sound quite a lot to me and buying a whole new computer GC> for the sake of this seems quite wasteful as well. Buying a GC> USB key of USB drive would be ch

Re: Debugging a LSB init script under systemd

2015-07-09 Thread Stuart Longland
Hi Reco, On 09/07/15 16:43, Reco wrote: >> > Is there a way to tell systemd to LEAVE the script alone while I debug >> > it and get it working? > Yes. Setting _SYSTEMCTL_SKIP_REDIRECT environment variable to any value > should allow you to run it directly. Ahh, that's EXACTLY what I needed. Thank

Apparent resolution - was [Re: Connecting laptop to internet via cell network]

2015-07-09 Thread Richard Owlett
Dan Ritter wrote: On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 03:08:04PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: Visiting vendorS' websites and brick-n-mortar locationS I can find many references to using with Windows(tm) &/or Apple(tm). I'm much more interested in using with *DEBIAN*! [snip] T-Mobile doesn't sell any USB

Re: [Solved, but not explained] Re: Using OpenVPN client with wicd

2015-07-09 Thread James P. Wallen
On 07/09/2015 11:56 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: On Thu, Jul 09, 2015 at 09:44:40AM -0400, James P. Wallen wrote: Between the Debian and Archlinux documentation and a little pondering I was able to use the OpenVPN client manually with wicd as the network manager. Which you are going to keep a s

Re: ffmpeg vs. libav

2015-07-09 Thread David Wright
Quoting The Wanderer (wande...@fastmail.fm): > On 07/08/2015 at 02:38 PM, David Wright wrote: > > > Quoting Nicolas George (geo...@nsup.org): > > > and to summarise the release notes: > > > > Debian wheezy [...]: ffmpeg has been replaced by [...] > > (libav-tools). It provides [...] and prepares

Re: ffmpeg vs. libav

2015-07-09 Thread David Wright
Quoting Nicolas George (geo...@nsup.org): > Le decadi 20 messidor, an CCXXIII, David Wright a écrit : > > The reason I used quotations was to try to avoid putting words in the > > mouths of the libav and Debian teams/leaderships. But the user could > > read all this as (loosely in the same order):

Re: 6872 Mo de RAM pour 8 Go d'après le BIOS ‽

2015-07-09 Thread Podrigal, Aron
Is this meant for the English mailing list ?? On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 10:47 AM, David Guyot < david.gu...@europecamions-interactive.com> wrote: > Ah, dammit ! Ça doit être ça. Les caractéristiques de la CM donnent un > GPU intégré avec jusqu'à 2 Gio de mémoire partagée, donc prélevée sur > les 8 G

Re: Kerberos-secured NFSv4: nss_getpwnam: name '8' does not map into domain

2015-07-09 Thread Podrigal, Aron
I haven't tried anything, just some thought. Maybe it uses '8' as a name instead of uid. On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Jonas Meurer wrote: > Hi again, > > I've another annoying issue with my new Kerberos-secured NFSv4 setup. > Sometimes when Exim4 writes to the mounted NFS share, it fails to

Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-09 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 09 July 2015 16:11:21 Chris Bannister wrote: > On Thu, Jul 09, 2015 at 08:28:36AM -0500, Martin G. McCormick wrote: > > Lisi Reisz writes: > > > As someone else has pointed out, it looks as though your username is > > > wrong. > > > Most POP3 mailhosts require the full email address, wi

Re: [Solved] Re: Using OpenVPN client with wicd

2015-07-09 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Jul 09, 2015 at 09:44:40AM -0400, James P. Wallen wrote: > > Between the Debian and Archlinux documentation and a little pondering I was > able to use the OpenVPN client manually with wicd as the network manager. Which you are going to keep a secret? People are going to see the solved in

Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-09 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Jul 09, 2015 at 08:28:36AM -0500, Martin G. McCormick wrote: > Lisi Reisz writes: > > As someone else has pointed out, it looks as though your username is > > wrong. > > Most POP3 mailhosts require the full email address, with the @domain bit. > > > > Lisi > > This one is no exception. T

Re: boot hangs when no ethernet cable is plugged in

2015-07-09 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2015-07-09 14:57:01 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > Am 09.07.2015 um 14:39 schrieb Vincent Lefevre: > > Wouldn't the right thing be to fix broken software? Software shouldn't > > just require $network, but something more precise and/or handle error > > conditions. > > Ideally yes. The reality is,

Re: 6872 Mo de RAM pour 8 Go d'après le BIOS ‽

2015-07-09 Thread David Guyot
Ah, dammit ! Ça doit être ça. Les caractéristiques de la CM donnent un GPU intégré avec jusqu'à 2 Gio de mémoire partagée, donc prélevée sur les 8 Gio. Bizarre, quand même : quand je compte les octets de la RAM décrits par la carte BIOS-e820, j'obtiens : * 7455 Mo utilisables ; * 103 Mo

Re: boot hangs when no ethernet cable is plugged in

2015-07-09 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2015-07-09 08:53:28 -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote: > On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 8:39 AM, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > But if one of the goals of allow-hotplug is to do link detection > > (see my other message about that), then this is fine for laptops. > > Just as a matter of interest, what network m

[Solved] Re: Using OpenVPN client with wicd

2015-07-09 Thread James P. Wallen
On 07/08/2015 09:40 AM, James P. Wallen wrote: On 07/08/2015 03:17 AM, Petter Adsen wrote: On Tue, 07 Jul 2015 13:20:35 -0400 "James P. Wallen" wrote: On 07/07/2015 08:34 AM, Petter Adsen wrote: https://wiki.debian.org/OpenVPN Have you seen this? It doesn't contain anything particular to

Re: boot hangs when no ethernet cable is plugged in

2015-07-09 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2015-07-09 08:53:28 -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote: > On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 8:39 AM, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > But if one of the goals of allow-hotplug is to do link detection > > (see my other message about that), then this is fine for laptops. > > Just as a matter of interest, what network m

Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-09 Thread Bob Bernstein
On Thu, 9 Jul 2015, Martin G. McCormick wrote: Lisi Reisz writes: As someone else has pointed out, it looks as though your username is wrong. I don't know whether to feel stupid or joyful. You get to feel both at the same time. Enjoy! -- "No matter how big the problem is, you can always

Re: xdg-open pain, how to use run-mailcap

2015-07-09 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Nicolas George [2015-07-09 15:10 +0200]: > > Does anyone know of a trick to just tell xdg-open to get out of the > > way? > > Not using it? There is some information missing in your message. I am talking about tools like gscan2pdf and others that hard-code xdg-open to preview files.

Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-09 Thread Martin G. McCormick
Lisi Reisz writes: > As someone else has pointed out, it looks as though your username is > wrong. > Most POP3 mailhosts require the full email address, with the @domain bit. > > Lisi This one is no exception. Thank you!! I don't know how many times I have read and re-read the lines in that .fet

Re: xdg-open pain, how to use run-mailcap

2015-07-09 Thread Nicolas George
Le primidi 21 messidor, an CCXXIII, martin f krafft a écrit : > Does anyone know of a trick to just tell xdg-open to get out of the > way? Not using it? There is some information missing in your message. Regards, -- Nicolas George signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: pam_shield is blocking allowed networks

2015-07-09 Thread Mart van de Wege
Louis Wust writes: > On Tue, Jul 7, 2015, at 06:42, Mart van de Wege wrote: >> I have set up pam_shield to allow my IP; when I test it by generating >> 5 bad logins (threshold is 5 per 10m), I see pam_shield print >> 'allowing from /255.255.255.255' in the logs; and yet after 5 >> login attempts

xdg-open pain, how to use run-mailcap

2015-07-09 Thread martin f krafft
Hey, run-mailcap worked for me for years. For a while already, xdg-open is being pushed, using .desktop files to direct what to do with URIs and files. I really don't want this. I don't want .desktop files and I don't want to have to create underdocumented ini-style configuration just to get my c

Re: boot hangs when no ethernet cable is plugged in

2015-07-09 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 09.07.2015 um 14:39 schrieb Vincent Lefevre: > Wouldn't the right thing be to fix broken software? Software shouldn't > just require $network, but something more precise and/or handle error > conditions. Ideally yes. The reality is, that we have ~620 sysv init scripts in Debian which have Requi

Re: boot hangs when no ethernet cable is plugged in

2015-07-09 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 8:39 AM, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2015-07-09 14:19:48 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: >> Am 09.07.2015 um 12:21 schrieb Vincent Lefevre: >> > Remove the "allow-hotplug eth0" line and have eth0 be brought up >> > automatically when there's an Ethernet signal? I haven't seen an

Re: boot hangs when no ethernet cable is plugged in

2015-07-09 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2015-07-09 14:19:48 +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > Am 09.07.2015 um 12:21 schrieb Vincent Lefevre: > > Remove the "allow-hotplug eth0" line and have eth0 be brought up > > automatically when there's an Ethernet signal? I haven't seen any > > drawback yet. > > The drawback is, that you might have

Re: ffmpeg vs. libav

2015-07-09 Thread The Wanderer
On 07/08/2015 at 02:38 PM, David Wright wrote: > Quoting Nicolas George (geo...@nsup.org): > and to summarise the release notes: > > Debian wheezy [...]: ffmpeg has been replaced by [...] > (libav-tools). It provides [...] and prepares an upgrade path for > existing application packages. install

Re: boot hangs when no ethernet cable is plugged in

2015-07-09 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2015-07-09 11:29:02 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Thursday 09 July 2015 11:21:34 Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > On 2015-07-09 10:46:06 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > On Thursday 09 July 2015 10:31:21 Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > > On 2015-07-09 09:29:26 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > > > On Wednesda

Re: boot hangs when no ethernet cable is plugged in

2015-07-09 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 09.07.2015 um 12:21 schrieb Vincent Lefevre: > On 2015-07-09 10:46:06 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: >> On Thursday 09 July 2015 10:31:21 Vincent Lefevre wrote: >>> On 2015-07-09 09:29:26 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Wednesday 08 July 2015 23:40:55 Vincent Lefevre wrote: > So, I wonder why the

Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-09 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 09 July 2015 12:54:07 Martin G. McCormick wrote: > Bob Bernstein writes: > > Is there a special reason you do not post your .fetchmailrc file? > > Yes. This is called a senior moment. It's when you forget to > include all the relevant information for which I apologize. > > Here is

Re: Fetchmail may almost be working in pop3.

2015-07-09 Thread Martin G. McCormick
Bob Bernstein writes: > Is there a special reason you do not post your .fetchmailrc file? Yes. This is called a senior moment. It's when you forget to include all the relevant information for which I apologize. Here is the slightly obfuscated .fetchmailrc file. The only obscured part is t

Re: Re: Open URLs in Icedove emails in Iceweasel, how?

2015-07-09 Thread tarqui
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Re: ffmpeg vs. libav

2015-07-09 Thread Nicolas George
Le decadi 20 messidor, an CCXXIII, David Wright a écrit : > The reason I used quotations was to try to avoid putting words in the > mouths of the libav and Debian teams/leaderships. But the user could > read all this as (loosely in the same order): > > wheezy: > ffmpeg is deprecated > avco

Re: strange journald *.journal file permissions

2015-07-09 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2015-07-09 02:43:25 +0200, Christian Seiler wrote: > What would be interesting to see is the following: > > - remove the executable bit in the mask (= "group permission bit" >since the files use ACLs) on those files > - reboot > - see if the bit is set again The x bit is re-added after

Re: boot hangs when no ethernet cable is plugged in

2015-07-09 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 09 July 2015 11:21:34 Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2015-07-09 10:46:06 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Thursday 09 July 2015 10:31:21 Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > On 2015-07-09 09:29:26 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > > On Wednesday 08 July 2015 23:40:55 Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > > > S

Re: boot hangs when no ethernet cable is plugged in

2015-07-09 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2015-07-09 10:46:06 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Thursday 09 July 2015 10:31:21 Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > On 2015-07-09 09:29:26 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > On Wednesday 08 July 2015 23:40:55 Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > > So, I wonder why the default file contains "allow-hotplug eth0". > >

Re: boot hangs when no ethernet cable is plugged in

2015-07-09 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 09 July 2015 10:31:21 Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2015-07-09 09:29:26 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Wednesday 08 July 2015 23:40:55 Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > So, I wonder why the default file contains "allow-hotplug eth0". > > > This seems to be incorrect: it doesn't make sense to

Re: boot hangs when no ethernet cable is plugged in

2015-07-09 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2015-07-09 09:29:26 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Wednesday 08 July 2015 23:40:55 Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > So, I wonder why the default file contains "allow-hotplug eth0". > > This seems to be incorrect: it doesn't make sense to put eth0 up > > only because the network interface eth0 is presen

Re: boot hangs when no ethernet cable is plugged in

2015-07-09 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 08 July 2015 23:40:55 Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On my Debian/unstable laptop, when I boot without an ethernet cable > plugged in, the boot hangs for several dozens of seconds with the > following message: > > A start job is running for ifup for eth0 > > I suspect that the default /etc

Re: Debugging a LSB init script under systemd

2015-07-09 Thread Reco
Hi. On Thu, 09 Jul 2015 14:37:52 +1000 Stuart Longland wrote: > Hi all, > > Is there any way to debug a LSB init script under systemd? I'm trying > to write an init script for a service that starts multiple daemons, much > like OpenVPN and how it starts a separate daemon for each connection.