Re: initramfs broken on Jessie upgrade

2015-04-28 Thread Bernhard Schmidt
Bernhard Schmidt wrote: > Don Armstrong wrote: > > Hi Don, > >>> has anyone observed something similar to >>> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=783620 on their >>> Upgrade from Wheezy to Jessie? I'm still trying to figure out what's >>> happening, and I don't really know where to

Re: initramfs broken on Jessie upgrade

2015-04-28 Thread Bernhard Schmidt
Don Armstrong wrote: Hi Don, >> has anyone observed something similar to >> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=783620 on their >> Upgrade from Wheezy to Jessie? I'm still trying to figure out what's >> happening, and I don't really know where to look. >> >> I was unable to attach

Re: initramfs broken on Jessie upgrade

2015-04-28 Thread Bernhard Schmidt
Michael Biebl wrote: Hi Michael, >> has anyone observed something similar to >> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D783620 on their >> Upgrade from Wheezy to Jessie? I'm still trying to figure out what's >> happening, and I don't really know where to look. >>=20 >> I was unable t

Re: jessie x86_64: Rosegarden unusable (possible bug in qt-at-spi?)

2015-04-28 Thread Rusi Mody
On Wednesday, April 29, 2015 at 10:50:03 AM UTC+5:30, Ric Moore wrote: > On 04/28/2015 11:33 PM, Alexis wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > i've just upgraded from wheezy to jessie, and the process was > > impressively trouble-free - thanks to all involved in preparing the > > jessie release! > > > > No

Re: issue with systemd-udev-settle

2015-04-28 Thread Matthias Bodenbinder
Hello Christian, first of all many thanks for your very detailed reply. This was excellent! I activated systemd-udev-settle again and want to debug the situtation according to your instructions (with udev.log-priority etc.). Here is the time consumption: systemd-analyze blame: ##

Re: Help with TestDisk

2015-04-28 Thread Seeker
On 4/28/2015 8:03 PM, German wrote: On Tue, 28 Apr 2015 19:06:29 -0700 Seeker wrote: On 4/28/2015 6:09 PM, German wrote: My USB drive won't mount. I tried TestDisk, but I am not sure what to do and how to procede. Are there any experts out there with TestDisk knowledge? Also, if there ar

Re: no ntp installed

2015-04-28 Thread Matthias Bodenbinder
Am 28.04.2015 um 16:38 schrieb Michael Biebl: An alternative is, to use systemd-timesyncd.service, which is already shipped in the systemd package, but disabled by default. It's more lightweight then ntp and doesn't do all the fancy tricks ntp does. It also doesn't provide an NTP server. For mo

Re: jessie x86_64: Rosegarden unusable (possible bug in qt-at-spi?)

2015-04-28 Thread Ric Moore
On 04/28/2015 11:33 PM, Alexis wrote: Hi all, i've just upgraded from wheezy to jessie, and the process was impressively trouble-free - thanks to all involved in preparing the jessie release! Now that i'm running jessie, i've encountered a few problems (one of which was easily solved, and whic

Re: No HDMI-Sound anymore with onboard sound chip "Intel CougarPoint HDMI" after upgrading from Wheezy to Jessie

2015-04-28 Thread Juha Heinanen
Lisi Reisz writes: > > Any suggestions how I can try to get the HDMI sound working again? > > My eyes are playing up tonight, so I haven't beeen able to read your email > carefully, but I got HDMI sound working on Jessie by : > > Checking that I had pulseaudio (I can't remember whether I had it

Re: Re: Jessie in VirtualBox: Terminal dies

2015-04-28 Thread dietmar . 4711
> Wrong package, you need > $ apt install linux-headers-$(uname -r) > > Btw, dkms recommends that package. > You really should install Recommends, most of the time, they have been > added for a good reason. Hm, I usually do install Recommends... In this case, linux-headers-3.16.0-4-686-pae was al

jessie x86_64: mouse pointer not visible in X (with solution)

2015-04-28 Thread Alexis
Hi all, Further to my previous message, i found that when logging in to my i3-based X environment, which makes use of gnome-settings-daemon, the mouse pointer was present, but not visible. That is: the pointer could be moved and used to select things, but was not actually displayed. It tur

jessie x86_64: Rosegarden unusable (possible bug in qt-at-spi?)

2015-04-28 Thread Alexis
Hi all, i've just upgraded from wheezy to jessie, and the process was impressively trouble-free - thanks to all involved in preparing the jessie release! Now that i'm running jessie, i've encountered a few problems (one of which was easily solved, and which i'll mention in a separate messa

Re: Jessie in VirtualBox: Terminal dies

2015-04-28 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 29.04.2015 um 05:24 schrieb dietmar.4...@web.de: > >> $ dpkg-reconfigure virtualbox-dkms (for the host) >> or >> $ dpkg-reconfigure virtualbox-guest-dkms (for the guest) >> should fix the problme. > > Module build fails, because "kernel source seems not to be installed". > I have installed lin

Re: Re: Jessie in VirtualBox: Terminal dies

2015-04-28 Thread dietmar . 4711
> $ dpkg-reconfigure virtualbox-dkms (for the host) > or > $ dpkg-reconfigure virtualbox-guest-dkms (for the guest) > should fix the problme. Module build fails, because "kernel source seems not to be installed". I have installed linux-source and linux-source-3.16, what am I missing? TIA, Dietma

Re: Help with TestDisk

2015-04-28 Thread German
On Tue, 28 Apr 2015 19:06:29 -0700 Seeker wrote: > > > On 4/28/2015 6:09 PM, German wrote: > > My USB drive won't mount. I tried TestDisk, but I am not sure what to do > > and how to procede. Are there any experts out there with TestDisk > > knowledge? Also, if there are, could anyone tell me

RE: python3-xlib lost in Debian

2015-04-28 Thread 慕冬亮
I don't think so ! I think debian will support python3 sooner or later, and give up python2 . This is a question of time . So although python-xlib upstream did not have update , if there is a need for it , I think there will be someone to maintain it for users !mudongliang From: br...@microcom

Re: Help with TestDisk

2015-04-28 Thread Seeker
On 4/28/2015 6:09 PM, German wrote: My USB drive won't mount. I tried TestDisk, but I am not sure what to do and how to procede. Are there any experts out there with TestDisk knowledge? Also, if there are, could anyone tell me what is good site to attach screenshots? Thanks The testdisk web

Re: apt vs aptitude (was ... Re: non-stable packages infestation)

2015-04-28 Thread Doug
On 04/28/2015 09:51 PM, Marco Segura wrote: I think use aptitude or apt is more a personal decision than any other thing, however I believe aptitude is more powerful. -- Marco T. Segura M. «Cuando naciste, todos reían y solo tu llorabas, asegurate que al morir, todos lloren y solo tu

Re: apt vs aptitude (was ... Re: non-stable packages infestation)

2015-04-28 Thread Marco Segura
I think use aptitude or apt is more a personal decision than any other thing, however I believe aptitude is more powerful. -- Marco T. Segura M. «Cuando naciste, todos reían y solo tu llorabas, asegurate que al morir, todos lloren y solo tu rías.» Confucio On Mon, A

Re: python3-xlib lost in Debian

2015-04-28 Thread Brian May
On Mon, 27 Apr 2015 at 12:26 mudongliang wrote: > Today I try to install a software - youdao dict. > First I try it in vmware machine: Linuxmint and Ubuntu. It can succeed! > But when I do it in Debian , it fails ; And the reason is the lost of > python3-xlib. > So I search in the web page of Deb

Re: Jessie in VirtualBox: Terminal dies

2015-04-28 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 29.04.2015 um 02:33 schrieb dietmar.4...@web.de: > Digging a bit deeper, I found the following errors during startup: > > [FAILED] Failed to start LSB: VirtualBox Linux Kernel Module. > > root@debian:/home/xxx# /etc/init.d/virtualbox start > Starting virtualbox (via systemctl): virtualbox.serv

Help with TestDisk

2015-04-28 Thread German
My USB drive won't mount. I tried TestDisk, but I am not sure what to do and how to procede. Are there any experts out there with TestDisk knowledge? Also, if there are, could anyone tell me what is good site to attach screenshots? Thanks -- German -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-r

Re: Re: Jessie in VirtualBox: Terminal dies

2015-04-28 Thread dietmar . 4711
Digging a bit deeper, I found the following errors during startup: [FAILED] Failed to start LSB: VirtualBox Linux Kernel Module. root@debian:/home/xxx# /etc/init.d/virtualbox start Starting virtualbox (via systemctl): virtualbox.serviceJob for virtualbox.service failed. See 'systemctl status vir

Re: Debian 7.8 amd64 xfce lightdm login screen second monitor sleeps but does not wake up

2015-04-28 Thread David Christensen
On 04/28/2015 12:47 PM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: First, check if you're using the latest BIOS/UEFI for your motherboard. Thank you for the reply. :-) BIOS is current (SWQ6710H.86A): https://downloadcenter.intel.com/product/51997/Intel-Desktop-Board-DQ67SW 2015-04-28 17:19:00

Re: Is anyone else having trouble sending mail from Jessie?

2015-04-28 Thread Bob Holtzman
On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 09:09:03AM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Tuesday 28 April 2015 01:23:41 John J. Boyer wrote: > > I did not have this problem with Ubuntu. > > Ubuntu, of course, is the solution to all ills. > > What I don't understand, is why people who think so, don't just use Ubuntu. Ho

Re: making thumbnails

2015-04-28 Thread James
I wrote this script: if [[ ! -z $1 ]]; then echo "One picture" convert -resize 25% "$1" "$1"_small else echo "All pictures" for fullfile in *.[Jj][Pp][Gg]; do echo "Making thumbnail" filename=$(basename "$fullfile") extension="${filename##*.}" filena

Re: testing or stable

2015-04-28 Thread Frank
On 28/04/15 04:58 PM, Ric Moore wrote: On 04/28/2015 04:56 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: And at the end of all that, it is still a matter of personal choice whether to move over or not. One man's meat is another man's poison. Exactly. The OP seemed to want some assurances. And, he has been provided

Re: No HDMI-Sound anymore with onboard sound chip "Intel CougarPoint HDMI" after upgrading from Wheezy to Jessie

2015-04-28 Thread Ric Moore
On 04/28/2015 05:29 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Tuesday 28 April 2015 21:18:10 mailing4362 wrote: Any suggestions how I can try to get the HDMI sound working again? My eyes are playing up tonight, so I haven't beeen able to read your email carefully, but I got HDMI sound working on Jessie by : C

Re: No HDMI-Sound anymore with onboard sound chip "Intel CougarPoint HDMI" after upgrading from Wheezy to Jessie

2015-04-28 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 28 April 2015 21:18:10 mailing4362 wrote: > Any suggestions how I can try to get the HDMI sound working again? My eyes are playing up tonight, so I haven't beeen able to read your email carefully, but I got HDMI sound working on Jessie by : Checking that I had pulseaudio (I can't reme

Re: testing or stable

2015-04-28 Thread Ric Moore
On 04/28/2015 04:56 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: And at the end of all that, it is still a matter of personal choice whether to move over or not. One man's meat is another man's poison. Exactly. The OP seemed to want some assurances. And, he has been provided the information that there are none, un

No HDMI-Sound anymore with onboard sound chip "Intel CougarPoint HDMI" after upgrading from Wheezy to Jessie

2015-04-28 Thread mailing4362
After fresh installing Debian Jessie (64-Bit) there is no sound anymore on the TV connected via HDMI cable to the computer (mainboard Intel DH67BL). With the OS installed before (Wheezy 32-Bit) it worked. Onboard sound chip is: # alsactl init Found hardware: "HDA-Intel" "Intel CougarPoint HDMI" "

Re: making thumbnails

2015-04-28 Thread Tim Kelley
You could use convert to degrade the quality rather than size, so the page won't be moving about when loading. Tim Kelley On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 12:14 PM, Siard wrote: > Steve Greig wrote: > > I have about 60 large jpg files in a directory. They are almost all > > over 2MB in size. I want to

Re: Setting up AP with hostapd

2015-04-28 Thread csanyipal
csanyi...@gmail.com writes: > Hello Michael, > > Michael Post writes: > >> Am 28.04.15 um 18:41 schrieb csanyi...@gmail.com: >>> Hello, >>> >>> I'm trying to setup my home wireless Access Point by using >>> hostapd, installed as a debian package from the debian repository. >>> >>> On my headles

Re: initramfs broken on Jessie upgrade

2015-04-28 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 28 Apr 2015, Bernhard Schmidt wrote: > Hi, > > has anyone observed something similar to > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=783620 on their > Upgrade from Wheezy to Jessie? I'm still trying to figure out what's > happening, and I don't really know where to look. > > I was

Re: Debian 7.8 amd64 xfce lightdm login screen second monitor sleeps but does not wake up

2015-04-28 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, Apr 27, 2015, at 14:57, David Christensen wrote: >Intel Core i7-2600S processor with Intel HD Graphics 2000 >DVI analog port > Intel DVI to VGA adapter (came with motherboard) >DP port > StarTect DP2VGA2 DP to VGA adapter > ViewSonic VX2260WM LCD monitor > Debian 7

Re: initramfs broken on Jessie upgrade

2015-04-28 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 28.04.2015 um 21:25 schrieb Bernhard Schmidt: > Hi, > > has anyone observed something similar to > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=783620 on their > Upgrade from Wheezy to Jessie? I'm still trying to figure out what's > happening, and I don't really know where to look. > > I

Re: Setting up AP with hostapd

2015-04-28 Thread csanyipal
Hello Michael, Michael Post writes: > Am 28.04.15 um 18:41 schrieb csanyi...@gmail.com: >> Hello, >> >> I'm trying to setup my home wireless Access Point by using >> hostapd, installed as a debian package from the debian repository. >> >> On my headless power pc box I'm running Debian Wheezy (

initramfs broken on Jessie upgrade

2015-04-28 Thread Bernhard Schmidt
Hi, has anyone observed something similar to https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=783620 on their Upgrade from Wheezy to Jessie? I'm still trying to figure out what's happening, and I don't really know where to look. I was unable to attach the screenshot so far (mail is accepted but

Re: Setting up AP with hostapd

2015-04-28 Thread Michael Post
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hello unknown user, Am 28.04.15 um 18:41 schrieb csanyi...@gmail.com: > Hello, > > I'm trying to setup my home wireless Access Point by using > hostapd, installed as a debian package from the debian repository. > > On my headless power pc box I'm

Re: the correct way to read a big directory? Mutt?

2015-04-28 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
Vincent Lefevre wrote on 04/28/2015 16:53: > No, strace output shows that "grep -r" uses directory order (well, > at least GNU grep 2.20, package grep 2.20-4.1, which is the version > in stable and unstable). See my test in the first message of this > thread. > Thanks for the pointer. I just read

Re: Boot stalling in jessie with systemd

2015-04-28 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 28 Apr 2015, David Wright wrote: > There are one of two services that stall on odd occasions, but most > have a timeout which is honoured. binfmt-support has an indefinite > timeout. I have no idea what it's meant to do. All its configuration > directories/files are empty. They really shou

Boot stalling in jessie with systemd

2015-04-28 Thread David Wright
I had hoped that my problem (bug #778881) would go away with recent upgrades, but no, it is still happening; sometimes as frequently as two boots in three. Two days ago, I had to hard-reset and lost the contents of my /etc/wicd/wireless-settings.conf as wicd must have been juggling it at the time

Re: jessie: how to suppress emacs24 warnings

2015-04-28 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 27 Apr 2015, Tim Kelley wrote: > Well, typing it is cumbersome so you can do in ~/.bash_aliases or ~/.bashrc > > alias emacs='emacs > /dev/null 2>&1' I actually use the following: #!/bin/sh # fork and forget == faf ("$@" >/dev/null 2>&1 &) as faf in ~/bin[1] so you can do things like f

Re: A bug of design : Unmet dependencies on architecture-independent package

2015-04-28 Thread Don Armstrong
On Fri, 17 Apr 2015, sppmg wrote: > I think it is a bug of design. This is actually not a design bug, but a bug in certain packages which are not Multi-Arch: foreign which should be. File the bug against the appropriate package with severity normal. -- Don Armstrong http://

Re: No network when installing any downloaded.deb file...

2015-04-28 Thread Gábor Hársfalvi
Ok... But how could I solve that? 2015-04-28 18:22 GMT+02:00 Lisi Reisz : > On Tuesday 28 April 2015 16:53:17 Gábor Hársfalvi wrote: > > Why I always got that message? > > > > And why when I try using Update Manager too? > > > > I've got Internet connection - of course - I can write to you for >

Re: making thumbnails

2015-04-28 Thread Siard
Steve Greig wrote: > I have about 60 large jpg files in a directory. They are almost all > over 2MB in size. I want to put them on the internet but wanted to > make a thumbnail version and a small version (about 75KB) of each one > so the web page does not take too long to load. Normally I just ope

Re: no ntp installed

2015-04-28 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 28.04.2015 um 18:17 schrieb Curt: > On 2015-04-28, Erwan David wrote: >>> >>> $ systemctl enable systemd-timesyncd.service >>> $ systemctl start systemd-timesyncd.service >>> >>> >> Which won't work in many work environment because querying ntp servers >> outside the site is blocked by firewa

Re: All installed packages disappeared from aptitude

2015-04-28 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2015-04-27, Patrick Wiseman wrote: > Hello: > > I just updated and upgraded a 'testing' system (so listed in > sources.list) and aptitude shows no installed packages. Here's a > typical aptitude entry: > > i A apache2 2.4.10-9 > > and another: > > ih perl 5.20.1-5 > > (The 'h' because I put i

Re: making thumbnails

2015-04-28 Thread Kent West
On 04/28/2015 11:27 AM, Steve Greig wrote: I have about 60 large jpg files in a directory. They are almost all over 2MB in size. I want to put them on the internet but wanted to make a thumbnail version and a small version (about 75KB) of each one so the web page does not take too long to load.

Re: making thumbnails

2015-04-28 Thread Bob Proulx
Steve Greig wrote: > I have about 60 large jpg files in a directory. They are almost all over > 2MB in size. I want to put them on the internet but wanted to make a > thumbnail version and a small version (about 75KB) of each one so the web > page does not take too long to load. Off the top of my

Setting up AP with hostapd

2015-04-28 Thread csanyipal
Hello, I'm trying to setup my home wireless Access Point by using hostapd, installed as a debian package from the debian repository. On my headless power pc box I'm running Debian Wheezy ( yet ). My hostapd.conf is: [code] interface=wlan0 driver=nl80211 bridge=br0 ssid=Cs5P3 hw_mode=g channel=2

making thumbnails

2015-04-28 Thread Steve Greig
I have about 60 large jpg files in a directory. They are almost all over 2MB in size. I want to put them on the internet but wanted to make a thumbnail version and a small version (about 75KB) of each one so the web page does not take too long to load. Normally I just open them in GIMP and modify t

Re: No network when installing any downloaded.deb file...

2015-04-28 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 28 April 2015 16:53:17 Gábor Hársfalvi wrote: > Why I always got that message? > > And why when I try using Update Manager too? > > I've got Internet connection - of course - I can write to you for example. This is why you couldn't use the netinstall disk. But that still doesn't expla

Re: no ntp installed

2015-04-28 Thread Tim Kelley
Yes, far preferable to running a local ntpd on every machine. Tim Kelley On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 11:17 AM, Curt wrote: > On 2015-04-28, Erwan David wrote: > >> > >> $ systemctl enable systemd-timesyncd.service > >> $ systemctl start systemd-timesyncd.service > >> > >> > > Which won't work i

Re: no ntp installed

2015-04-28 Thread Curt
On 2015-04-28, Erwan David wrote: >> >> $ systemctl enable systemd-timesyncd.service >> $ systemctl start systemd-timesyncd.service >> >> > Which won't work in many work environment because querying ntp servers > outside the site is blocked by firewall. > > This is a client; can't it be configu

Re: no ntp installed

2015-04-28 Thread Erwan David
Le 28/04/2015 16:38, Michael Biebl a écrit : > Am 28.04.2015 um 09:27 schrieb Bob Proulx: >> Matthias Bodenbinder wrote: >>> I installed debian 8 on one of my PCs and found out that no ntp or >>> ntpdate or rdate is installed. How is debian 8 synchronizing the >>> system time? >> I install 'ntp'. >

No network when installing any downloaded.deb file...

2015-04-28 Thread Gábor Hársfalvi
Hello, Why I always got that message? And why when I try using Update Manager too? I've got Internet connection - of course - I can write to you for example. Thanks

Debian codenames and distributions

2015-04-28 Thread David Wright
As an update of a posting I made a short while back, here's a snapshot of the current links at debian.org. As can be seen, the canonical names of distributions are the codenames, and their present state is defined by the links. The links (with exceptions) shift each time a new distribution is relea

Re: the correct way to read a big directory? Mutt?

2015-04-28 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2015-04-28 15:20:19 +0200, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: > Maybe my wording is unclear. I haven't had a look how "grep -r" > traverses the directory contents. I thought it would search the > files in a sequence according to some lexicographical order of > their names. No, strace output shows that "g

Re: the correct way to read a big directory? Mutt?

2015-04-28 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2015-04-27 09:44:09 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2015-04-24 21:41:41 -0500, David Wright wrote: > > Quoting Vincent Lefevre (vinc...@vinc17.net): > > > This is now done in my script, but I had to use the ReadDir module > > > from CPAN, since both readdir implementations in Perl (the standa

Re: no ntp installed

2015-04-28 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 28.04.2015 um 09:27 schrieb Bob Proulx: > Matthias Bodenbinder wrote: >> I installed debian 8 on one of my PCs and found out that no ntp or >> ntpdate or rdate is installed. How is debian 8 synchronizing the >> system time? > > I install 'ntp'. > > # apt-get install ntp > > The default conf

Re: Jessie and screensaver on lid-close

2015-04-28 Thread Francesco Ariis
On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 02:38:34PM +0200, Christian Seiler wrote: > On suspend, systemd-logind will send out a signal on DBus to all > processes listening for it that says: please lock your screen. > > There's something called xss-lock that can allegedly (haven't > tried it myself) listen to those

Re: the correct way to read a big directory? Mutt?

2015-04-28 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
David Wright wrote on 04/27/2015 17:29: > Quoting Jörg-Volker Peetz (jvpe...@web.de): >> Correction of the "jot" command arguments: >> >> Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote on 04/25/2015 16:15: >>> for i in `seq 5000` do date=$((1000+i)) cat < "$dir/cur/$date.1.host:2,S" >>>

Re: Jessie and screensaver on lid-close

2015-04-28 Thread Christian Seiler
Am 2015-04-28 14:27, schrieb Francesco Ariis: I recently upgraded my laptop from wheezy to jessie, and everything is going smoothly. I run a very simple system, with X but no DE. I would like to lock the screen when the lid of my laptop is closed (by running xscreensaver, which I currently

Jessie and screensaver on lid-close

2015-04-28 Thread Francesco Ariis
Hello, I recently upgraded my laptop from wheezy to jessie, and everything is going smoothly. I run a very simple system, with X but no DE. I would like to lock the screen when the lid of my laptop is closed (by running xscreensaver, which I currently have installed, if possible, but any other

Re: testing or stable

2015-04-28 Thread Nicolas George
Le nonidi 9 floréal, an CCXXIII, Francisco M Neto a écrit : > It did. However you have to consider that delaying the upgrade also has the > advantage of ironing out the package instability, and instead of regular > updates with eventual breaks you'd get a smoother transition. I believe this is not

Re: testing or stable

2015-04-28 Thread Francisco M Neto
On 04/28/2015 06:16 AM, Nicolas George wrote: Le nonidi 9 floréal, an CCXXIII, Lisi Reisz a écrit : And at the end of all that, it is still a matter of personal choice whether to move over or not. One man's meat is another man's poison. Yes. But to decide that it is necessary to have the facts

Re: apt-spy not in the jessie or stretch

2015-04-28 Thread Brian
On Tue 28 Apr 2015 at 17:09:45 +0800, mudongliang wrote: > Today I want to install apt-spy to find the fastest mirror , but the > apt-get tells me no this package! Bug #779468: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=779468 Use http.debian.net in sources.list. The list archives have

Re: issue with systemd-udev-settle

2015-04-28 Thread Christian Seiler
Hi, Am 2015-04-28 07:48, schrieb Matthias Bodenbinder: I installed debian 8 on one of my PCs and got into trouble with extra long boot times of > 2 min. I found out that it due to systemd-udev-settle.service. My PC is using lvm and that somehow interferes with systemd-udev-settle.service. The we

Re: Is anyone else having trouble sending mail from Jessie?

2015-04-28 Thread Francesco Ariis
On Mon, Apr 27, 2015 at 07:23:41PM -0500, John J. Boyer wrote: > I'm using msmtp to send mail, but I suspect the same problem would occur > with any of the other mail programs. Whenever I try to send a message I > get the error "TLS handshake failed. Operation timed out." There sems to > be a mi

apt-spy not in the jessie or stretch

2015-04-28 Thread mudongliang
Today I want to install apt-spy to find the fastest mirror , but the apt-get tells me no this package! I search it in Google , find that squeeze (oldoldstable) (admin): writes a sources.list file based on bandwidth tests 3.1-19: amd64 armel i386 ia64 kfreebsd-amd64 kfreebsd-i386 mips mipsel powe

Re: testing or stable

2015-04-28 Thread Nicolas George
Le nonidi 9 floréal, an CCXXIII, Lisi Reisz a écrit : > And at the end of all that, it is still a matter of personal choice > whether to move over or not. One man's meat is another man's poison. Yes. But to decide that it is necessary to have the facts straight. I suspect the OP was not completel

Re: testing or stable

2015-04-28 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 28 April 2015 09:48:43 Nicolas George wrote: > Le nonidi 9 floréal, an CCXXIII, Lisi Reisz a écrit : > > You ask if it is stable enough for a personal computer. How long is a > > piece of string? I personally would let it settle a bit before going > > over to Stretch. Others have test

Re: testing or stable

2015-04-28 Thread Nicolas George
Le nonidi 9 floréal, an CCXXIII, Lisi Reisz a écrit : > You ask if it is stable enough for a personal computer. How long is a piece > of string? I personally would let it settle a bit before going over to > Stretch. Others have testing in their sources lists and went straight over > to Stretc

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Wheezy: making a bootable HD with Grub

2015-04-28 Thread Ldten K
% I decided to follow the path you suggested as it seemed the simplest and easiest % for me to do. Here's what I did in case if anyone is trying to resolve a similar % issue: % % 0. Copy /boot and / partition data from the old drive to the new one % 1. Run "blkid"

Re: testing or stable

2015-04-28 Thread mudongliang
On Tue, 2015-04-28 at 09:16 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Tuesday 28 April 2015 07:10:56 慕冬亮 wrote: > > > About stability, I wonder testing version is enough for me?Though I > > > certainly see someone in the mailing list saying that testing version is > > > very stable , I want to ask it again?

Re: Is anyone else having trouble sending mail from Jessie?

2015-04-28 Thread David Baron
A shot in the dark: The installation provides a too-small /var partition (among other too-small partitions). Update some packages, fill up some logs and bingo. Try "df." If it shows /var at 100%, that will do it. Run sudo apt-get clean and feel the difference. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to deb

Re: the correct way to read a big directory? Mutt?

2015-04-28 Thread Nicolas George
L'octidi 8 floréal, an CCXXIII, Vincent Lefevre a écrit : > The CPU time is OK. Good to know. > I don't understand the point. Accumulating in strings (which involves > copies and possible reallocations) and doing a split is much slower > than reading lines one by one and treating them separately.

Re: testing or stable

2015-04-28 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 28 April 2015 07:10:56 慕冬亮 wrote: > > About stability,  I wonder testing version is enough for me?Though I > > certainly see someone in the mailing list saying that testing version is > > very stable ,  I want to ask it again? Is it stable for personal computer > > ,not workstation or se

Re: Is anyone else having trouble sending mail from Jessie?

2015-04-28 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 28 April 2015 01:23:41 John J. Boyer wrote: > I did not have this problem with Ubuntu. Ubuntu, of course, is the solution to all ills. What I don't understand, is why people who think so, don't just use Ubuntu. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: no ntp installed

2015-04-28 Thread Bob Proulx
Matthias Bodenbinder wrote: > I installed debian 8 on one of my PCs and found out that no ntp or > ntpdate or rdate is installed. How is debian 8 synchronizing the > system time? I install 'ntp'. # apt-get install ntp The default configuration will use the a debian alias pool of Internet time

Re: testing or stable

2015-04-28 Thread Joe
On Tue, 28 Apr 2015 01:33:06 -0400 Ric Moore wrote: > > There are those users who stay continuously with Sid, and my hat is > off to them. Thank you. Sid is indeed becoming interesting again, more than 130 upgrades last night. I assume the new testing is also waking up, there would have been