On 11/12/2014, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> Well... not sure we're typical, then again, as others have asked, what's
> typical?
Well put; this mailing list is, in itself, probably quite an atypical
group of people, to which to put such a question; thence, what
proportion of subscribers to this list,
On 12/12/2014, Bret Busby wrote:
> On 12/12/2014, Richard Owlett wrote:
>> Lisi Reisz wrote:
>>> On Thursday 11 December 2014 14:48:41 Richard Owlett wrote:
The OP correctly phrased the question as "How is typical home
computer used today?"
As I'm the OP, I should know.
>>>
>>> If
On 12/12/2014, Richard Owlett wrote:
> Lisi Reisz wrote:
>> On Thursday 11 December 2014 14:48:41 Richard Owlett wrote:
>>> The OP correctly phrased the question as "How is typical home
>>> computer used today?"
>>> As I'm the OP, I should know.
>>
>> If we had trouble understanding it, then you
On 20141211_1223+0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Jo, 11 dec 14, 18:16:05, Joel Rees wrote:
> >
> but I'm considering how to implement a forced fsck every now and then,
> including an xfs partition, which wouldn't be checked at boot anyway.
>
insert fsck reminder into to-do list using cron
On 20141211_1332+, Brian wrote:
> On Wed 10 Dec 2014 at 14:22:59 -0700, Paul E Condon wrote:
>
> > On 20141210_1830+, Brian wrote:
> > > On Wed 10 Dec 2014 at 19:23:07 +0300, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 10/12/2014 14:04, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >Of cou
On 12/11/2014 8:33 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 08.12.2014 18:59, Marty a écrit :
If this proves feasible, that's what I hope to do. I just want to know
if anyone thinks it's a good idea, before I commit time and resources.
My knowledge of all of the issues is sketchy at best.
On 12/11/2014 at 05:35 PM, Bob Proulx wrote:
> B. M. wrote:
>
>> The Wanderer a écrit :
>>
>>> I understood him as asking why freeze testing with a version
>>> which excludes the latest bug fixes, when a newer version which
>>> includes them is available. This is not the same as asking why
>>> f
On 12/10/2014 11:22 PM, Bret Busby wrote:
I make the point that the term is a malapropism. Not that it is
invalid. A car central computer, which performs functions like heating
the seats, and, determining which seats are occupied, to illuminate
"seatbelt not fastened on seat ", are "multi-seat
c
claude juif wrote:
> Bob Proulx wrote:
> I've read this doc
> http://ftp.dc.volia.com/pub/debian/preseed/partman-auto-recipe.txt where it
> says :
>
> is the maximal size for the partition, i.e. a limit
> size such that there is no sense to make this partition larger.
>
> The special value "-1"
2014-12-12 1:47 GMT+01:00 Bob Proulx :
>
> claude juif wrote:
> > I'm stuck with partman expert_recipe for 3 days now and it's driving me
> > crazy.
>
> The partman part of the installer is one of the more obtuse parts.
>
> > I've a 250GB hard drive and i try to use the following partition layout :
claude juif wrote:
> I'm stuck with partman expert_recipe for 3 days now and it's driving me
> crazy.
The partman part of the installer is one of the more obtuse parts.
> I've a 250GB hard drive and i try to use the following partition layout :
>
> primary partition
> 512M /boot
> 4096M swap
>
On Fri 12 Dec 2014 at 07:37:16 +1100, Charlie wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 12:23:10 +0200 Andrei POPESCU sent:
>
>
>
> > The root of my sid install was created before that, so I was still
> > getting the periodic check for it. The other ext4 filesystems were
> > newer, so weren't checked (and
Atomic in the original word meaning can't be cut, and stopping is a form of
cutting. Rolling back is a strategy to permit stopping an atomic operation, but
I am unsure thi can be done always.
--
Gian Uberto Lauri
Messaggio inviato da un tablet
On 11/dic/2014, at 17:42, Stefan Monnier wrote:
>
Ric Moore wrote:
> Didja try here?:
> http://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/support/drivers/download/?id=143
> (this is from 2006)
This contains the HAL I was talking about.
>From the README:
,
| A working installation of XFree86 4.3.0, and X.org versions 6.7.0,
| 6.8.0, 6.8.1, 6.8.2, 6.9.0, 7
Tim Nelson wrote:
> The use case is that I need to bridge eth0 with eth0.2, allowing layer
> two traffic to pass seamlessly between interfaces, yet still leave
> eth0.3 in a usable state. The switch this system is connected to is
> for all intents and purposes outside of my control, which is the
B. M. wrote:
> The Wanderer a écrit :
> > I understood him as asking why freeze testing with a version which
> > excludes the latest bug fixes, when a newer version which includes them
> > is available. This is not the same as asking why freeze testing with a
> > version which is not the newest ver
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> Bob Proulx wrote:
> > When Testing is released as Stable a new name will be chosen for the
> > next release and that new name will become Testing.
>
> Minor nitpick: the names are already known, the release after Jessie
> will be Stretch and then next one Buster.
>
> http
On 12/11/2014 03:45 PM, Tim Nelson wrote:
Greetings-
I have an interesting situation that requires bridging some VLAN enabled
interfaces together on a Debian 7.x x86 system. On the host, there is a
single physical interface passing traffic natively (eth0), and two
tagged VLANs also passing traff
On 12/11/2014 03:37 PM, Charlie wrote:
On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 12:23:10 +0200 Andrei POPESCU sent:
The root of my sid install was created before that, so I was still
getting the periodic check for it. The other ext4 filesystems were
newer, so weren't checked (and I didn't even notice it).
I've j
On 12/11/2014 10:40 AM, pe...@easthope.ca wrote:
A CRT monitor and an IBM flat monitor are connected to a Matrox G450
adapter.
Please, I am not trying to be rude here. but here it comes...
Is this in a desktop machine?
Can you remove the board?
If so, is there a window nearby?
Then, open the
On 12/11/2014 05:57 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Mi, 10 dec 14, 15:32:55, Jape Person wrote:
But that information plus the linked items (in the info output) grub-reboot
and grub-editenv may get me started toward a solution.
I just thought of a different approach, using the fact that one can
On 12/11/2014 01:56 PM, Harry Putnam wrote:
Andrei POPESCU writes:
On Mi, 10 dec 14, 13:57:01, Harry Putnam wrote:
Andrei POPESCU writes:
So far every application *except xterm* I have tried has the same icon
in the top left corner of its window as well as the taskbar. I tried GTK
as well
Greetings-
I have an interesting situation that requires bridging some VLAN enabled
interfaces together on a Debian 7.x x86 system. On the host, there is a single
physical interface passing traffic natively (eth0), and two tagged VLANs also
passing traffic (eth0.2 and eth0.3).
The use case i
On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 12:23:10 +0200 Andrei POPESCU sent:
> The root of my sid install was created before that, so I was still
> getting the periodic check for it. The other ext4 filesystems were
> newer, so weren't checked (and I didn't even notice it).
>
> I've just disabled the automatic che
Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Thursday 11 December 2014 14:48:41 Richard Owlett wrote:
The OP correctly phrased the question as "How is typical home
computer used today?"
As I'm the OP, I should know.
If we had trouble understanding it, then you did *NOT* correctly phrase the
question.
And you have *
On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 14:38:29 -0500
Ric Moore wrote:
> On 12/11/2014 01:17 AM, Bret Busby wrote:
>
> > So much metaphorical male ovine faeces.
> >
> > And, that is not directed at Lisi; just at the people trying to
> > impose their dubious opinions and classifications, of what is, and,
> > what h
On Thu 11 Dec 2014 at 14:02:52 -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> On 12/11/2014 1:23 PM, Brian wrote:
> >
> > For less work to set up than the previous method you want to take a look
> > at
> >
> >https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=799574
> >
>
> To which Lennart responded that is not
On 12/11/2014 11:33 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Well... this model is still very used in enterprises. I do not speak
about those old mainframes which are still bought by very huge
corporations (at least, I've heard so)
Huh? :D Ric
--
My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say:
"Th
On 12/11/2014 01:17 AM, Bret Busby wrote:
So much metaphorical male ovine faeces.
And, that is not directed at Lisi; just at the people trying to impose
their dubious opinions and classifications, of what is, and, what has
been, and, of what should be.
Do you suppose Debian has become refuge
On Thu, 11 Dec 2014, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
> I sometimes use lpr in a pipeline getting postscript from groff. My
> printer (HP CP2025dn) has a duplexer and I'd like to use it. I could
> look up the Postscript for that, but I'm wondering if there's a way to
> force either of groff or lpr to do it fo
On 11/12/14 17:21, Richard Owlett wrote:
There is a market (how large???) for a single user single task computer
and OS.
It's very large indeed! Apple, and the various customers (e.g. Samsung,
LG, HTC) of Google and Microsoft, are quite enthusiastic about selling
devices that (superficially)
On Thu 11 Dec 2014 at 11:14:23 -0800, Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
> I sometimes use lpr in a pipeline getting postscript from groff. My
> printer (HP CP2025dn) has a duplexer and I'd like to use it. I could look
> up the Postscript for that, but I'm wondering if there's a way to force
> either of grof
On 12/11/2014 1:23 PM, Brian wrote:
> On Thu 11 Dec 2014 at 12:11:26 -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>
>> If Windows can give you the option as to when to perform a potentially
>> critical (do not shut down!) and long running process, why can't Linux?
>
> As far as having the option of an fsck at boo
I sometimes use lpr in a pipeline getting postscript from groff. My
printer (HP CP2025dn) has a duplexer and I'd like to use it. I could look
up the Postscript for that, but I'm wondering if there's a way to force
either of groff or lpr to do it for me.
--
Kevin O'Gorman
#define QUESTION ((bb)
On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 13:52:22 -0500
Miles Fidelman wrote:
> Well, let's not forget these other common(?) uses of home computers:
> - file/print server
> - media server - probably headless, accessed via browser on a tablet or
> smartphone
> - remote access from tablet or smartphone (web browser or
Here are the fields in my default.conf for vpnc and what I use them for:
IPSec gateway this is the IP you use to access the vpn
IPSec IDwe use this as the ID for the company.
IPSec secretthis is the key
Xauth username we
Andrei POPESCU writes:
> On Mi, 10 dec 14, 13:57:01, Harry Putnam wrote:
>> Andrei POPESCU writes:
>>
>> > So far every application *except xterm* I have tried has the same icon
>> > in the top left corner of its window as well as the taskbar. I tried GTK
>> > as well as Qt applications. To m
Ok thank you for your reply.
I'll have a second round with the IT admins. The question remains if the
pre shared key is the same as the group password? If not, how is it
specified in vpnc?
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Frédéric Marchal <
frederic.marc...@wowtechnology.com> wrote:
> 2014-12
Stefan Monnier wrote:
There is a sort of half-way house, whereby a second user can login
to a workstation without the first user logging out, but the same
keyboard and screen are used and the first user cannot do anything
while the second user has control. I don't know how commonly used this
is,
On Thu 11 Dec 2014 at 12:11:26 -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> If Windows can give you the option as to when to perform a potentially
> critical (do not shut down!) and long running process, why can't Linux?
As far as having the option of an fsck at boot is concerned I've already
mentioned grub's d
On Thursday 11 December 2014 14:48:41 Richard Owlett wrote:
> The OP correctly phrased the question as "How is typical home
> computer used today?"
> As I'm the OP, I should know.
If we had trouble understanding it, then you did *NOT* correctly phrase the
question.
And you have *STILL* not said
On 12/11/2014 5:53 AM, Bonno Bloksma wrote:
> Hi,
>
fsck may take time. Relax, it needs that time.
>>>
>>> What if I do not have that time,
>>
>> Find it (this includes planning - of infrastructure and procedures if
>> required).
>
> Ok, so that means anyone with a nice laptop who wants to
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
[snip]
Now, if you think multi-user OSes are not that good, I think
there is an OS with a different kernel somewhere (not Linux, not
*BSD, not Hurd, not Windows, not ReactOS...) which wants to build
a single user system.
Can't remember the name, I only rememb
>> > users equally well. If it does, the relevance of having a ^C at boot
>> > time for stopping an fsck might be open to examination.
>> The issue goes beyond fsck. It's important to be able to interrupt
>> various long-running operations (typically waiting for an event)
>> during boot.
> But so
Miles Fidelman wrote:
Richard Owlett wrote:
Bret Busby wrote:
Surely, it would have all been so much simpler, if the
original poster
in the thread, had put the question "To what personal uses, do
people
put their computers?".
What correlation need there be between *simple* questions and
*use
pe...@easthope.ca wrote:
> A CRT monitor and an IBM flat monitor are connected to a Matrox G450
> adapter. Both monitors display the command line interface. With X
> running, the monitor on output 1 is active; the monitor on output 2
> indicates absence of signal. If the monitors are swapped ac
Le 10.12.2014 21:34, Andrei POPESCU a écrit :
On Mi, 10 dec 14, 13:27:21, Paul E Condon wrote:
What is 'PoC'? Probably will be blindly obvious once I've been told.
Most likely "Proof of Concept".
Yes.
By PoC I mean a small set of program/library which demonstrates that
something is doab
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 02:32:18PM -0200, Andre N Batista wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 06:05:13PM -0500, Gary Dale wrote:
> > I'm running Jessie on an AMD64 system.
> >
> > Last night I took some pictures and tried my usual method of
> > downloading - I plugged in the phone through USB and sel
Le 08.12.2014 18:59, Marty a écrit :
On 12/08/2014 10:43 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 08.12.2014 14:18, Marty a écrit :
I almost tagged this off-topic but it's directed toward ordinary
Debian
users (with developer backgrounds). I first raised this on
modular-debian but I wa
Hi.
On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 07:51:23 -0300
Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 09:07:21 +0100
> Mart van de Wege wrote:
>
> > This is like all those people who first moved to Ubuntu back in the day,
> > complaining about not being able to login as root.
>
> And how do you keep a mu
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 06:05:13PM -0500, Gary Dale wrote:
> I'm running Jessie on an AMD64 system.
>
> Last night I took some pictures and tried my usual method of
> downloading - I plugged in the phone through USB and selecting File
> Manager when the notification window popped up. Navigating to
A CRT monitor and an IBM flat monitor are connected to a Matrox G450
adapter. Both monitors display the command line interface. With X
running, the monitor on output 1 is active; the monitor on output 2
indicates absence of signal. If the monitors are swapped across the
output connectors, o
Richard Owlett wrote:
Bret Busby wrote:
Surely, it would have all been so much simpler, if the original poster
in the thread, had put the question "To what personal uses, do people
put their computers?".
What correlation need there be between *simple* questions and *useful*
answers?
The OP
Bret Busby wrote:
Surely, it would have all been so much simpler, if the original poster
in the thread, had put the question "To what personal uses, do people
put their computers?".
What correlation need there be between *simple* questions and
*useful* answers?
The OP correctly phrased the
On Mi, 10 dec 14, 13:55:13, Bob Proulx wrote:
> When Testing is released as Stable a new name will be chosen for the
> next release and that new name will become Testing.
Minor nitpick: the names are already known, the release after Jessie
will be Stretch and then next one Buster.
https://lists.
Stefan Monnier writes:
> > users equally well. If it does, the relevance of having a ^C at boot
> > time for stopping an fsck might be open to examination.
>
> The issue goes beyond fsck. It's important to be able to interrupt
> various long-running operations (typically waiting for an even
On 12/11/2014 05:57 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Mi, 10 dec 14, 15:32:55, Jape Person wrote:
But that information plus the linked items (in the info output) grub-reboot
and grub-editenv may get me started toward a solution.
I just thought of a different approach, using the fact that one can
m
> There is a sort of half-way house, whereby a second user can login
> to a workstation without the first user logging out, but the same
> keyboard and screen are used and the first user cannot do anything
> while the second user has control. I don't know how commonly used this
> is, Windows has ha
On 12/11/2014 05:09 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Mi, 10 dec 14, 15:32:55, Jape Person wrote:
But that information plus the linked items (in the info output) grub-reboot
and grub-editenv may get me started toward a solution.
I think at least some of the list subscribers would be grateful for y
> users equally well. If it does, the relevance of having a ^C at boot
> time for stopping an fsck might be open to examination.
The issue goes beyond fsck. It's important to be able to interrupt
various long-running operations (typically waiting for an event)
during boot.
Stefan
--
On Wed 10 Dec 2014 at 14:22:59 -0700, Paul E Condon wrote:
> On 20141210_1830+, Brian wrote:
> > On Wed 10 Dec 2014 at 19:23:07 +0300, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:
> >
> > > On 10/12/2014 14:04, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > > >
> > > >Of course, there's also the option of completely disabling
Bonno Bloksma writes:
> Ok, so that means anyone with a nice laptop who wants to do some
> work "just before" boarding a plane is now "at risk".
Just before boarding some plane is the "bad time and place" for some
work.
> Just had to help someone this morning who had Windows 7 doing
> updat
2014-12-11 13:41 GMT+01:00 Marty :
> On 12/11/2014 02:02 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday 10 December 2014 18:08:00 Martin Read wrote:
>>
>>> On 10/12/14 13:26, Marty wrote:
>>> > The industry and its plans for FOSS is strongly anti-choice:
>>> > https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel
On Thu 11 Dec 2014 at 10:53:07 +, Bonno Bloksma wrote:
> > Let fsck run and pray it does not halts claiming it can't fix the
> > problem.
> When it is started due to an unclean shutdown or something like it, we
> can plan. When it simply runs "because it does that sometimes", no
> thank you, I
On 12/11/2014 02:02 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Wednesday 10 December 2014 18:08:00 Martin Read wrote:
On 10/12/14 13:26, Marty wrote:
> The industry and its plans for FOSS is strongly anti-choice:
> https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2008-January/msg00861.h
>tml
It appears to me th
Hi,
> On 12/10/2014 01:23 PM, Nick Mpallas wrote:
>> I am building a platform and I need to compile apache mesos from
>> sources. The issue is that the guys the require support for specific
>> c++11 features that in the 4.7 compiler currently supported by debian
>> aren't there. Will the g++ co
On Jo, 11 dec 14, 12:03:40, B. M. wrote:
>
> So it depends on the maintainer?
Not only.
> Is there any public information about how a certain maintainer thinks
> about / handles that?
I'd be searching the archives of:
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-kde-talk
http:/
On 11/12/14 07:34, B. M. wrote:
Le 11 déc. 2014 à 05:10, The Wanderer a écrit :
I understood him as asking why freeze testing with a version which
excludes the latest bug fixes, when a newer version which includes them
is available. This is not the same as asking why freeze testing with a
versi
2014-12-11 8:04 GMT+01:00 Hajder Rabiee :
> Hi
>
> Trying to connect to VPN at work but keep getting: "vpnc: no response from
> target".
>
> I have created my vpn.conf in /etc/vpnc/myconf.conf and also added Local
> Port 1 as I've read some posts that the particular error message might
> have t
On Mi, 10 dec 14, 15:32:55, Jape Person wrote:
>
> But that information plus the linked items (in the info output) grub-reboot
> and grub-editenv may get me started toward a solution.
I just thought of a different approach, using the fact that one can
manipulate the "Maximum mount count" without
On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 09:07:21 +0100
Mart van de Wege wrote:
> This is like all those people who first moved to Ubuntu back in the day,
> complaining about not being able to login as root.
And how do you keep a multi-user box safe if any user can sudo ?
Cheers,
Ron.
--
L
Hi,
>> > fsck may take time. Relax, it needs that time.
>>
>> What if I do not have that time,
>
> Find it (this includes planning - of infrastructure and procedures if
> required).
Ok, so that means anyone with a nice laptop who wants to do some work "just
before" boarding a plane is now "at r
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 06:16:05PM +0900, Joel Rees wrote:
> 2014/12/11 3:48 "Brian" :
> >
> > On Wed 10 Dec 2014 at 19:23:07 +0300, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:
> >
> > > On 10/12/2014 14:04, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > > >
> > > >Of course, there's also the option of completely disabling automat
Le 11 déc. 2014 à 11:41, Andrei POPESCU a écrit :
> On Mi, 10 dec 14, 23:10:36, The Wanderer wrote:
>>
>> IOW, if version 2.2.4 of a program is packaged, and upstream releases
>> version 2.3.0 after the freeze, it might be reasonable to stick with
>> 2.2.4 in preparing testing for release - but
On Mi, 10 dec 14, 23:10:36, The Wanderer wrote:
>
> IOW, if version 2.2.4 of a program is packaged, and upstream releases
> version 2.3.0 after the freeze, it might be reasonable to stick with
> 2.2.4 in preparing testing for release - but if upstream releases 2.2.5
> as a bugfix release for the 2
On Jo, 11 dec 14, 18:16:05, Joel Rees wrote:
>
> Odd. The last time I booted my wheezy-by-install system, it did an
> automatic fsck.
>
> I did nothing in particular to enable that.
>
> I think you are reading things into the documentation that you want to be
> there.
Check filesystem creation
On Mi, 10 dec 14, 15:32:55, Jape Person wrote:
>
> But that information plus the linked items (in the info output) grub-reboot
> and grub-editenv may get me started toward a solution.
I think at least some of the list subscribers would be grateful for your
findings.
Kind regards,
Andrei
--
htt
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 01:54:08AM -0500, Ethan Rosenberg wrote:
> Dear List -
>
> I wish to be able to print a barcode .5 inches from top of the page and
> centered.
>
> I generate the barcode -
>
> yes 12345 | head -84 | barcode -p 5x5.0cm -umm -e CODE39 > test.ps;
First of all, try viewing
2014/12/11 3:48 "Brian" :
>
> On Wed 10 Dec 2014 at 19:23:07 +0300, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:
>
> > On 10/12/2014 14:04, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > >
> > >Of course, there's also the option of completely disabling automatic
> > >fsck (there are several ways to do this), as I understand is the
Stefan Monnier writes:
>>> Actually, it's *always* a surprise. These fsck happen at long enough
>>> intervals, that I can never know if it was "4 months ago" or "7 months
>>> ago", and neither can I remember which laptop/desktop has the delay set
>>> to 172 days vs 194 days vs 98 days vs ...
>>
Christian Groessler writes:
> > ^C could be unresponsive nevertheless, the process being stuck in kernel
> > space and thus completely oblivious of the signals thrown at it.
>
>
> This would be a different problem hinting at a kernel bug...
Non necessarily a bug. We have to accept that exis
On 12/11/2014 08:10 AM, Ethan Rosenberg wrote:
> Dear List -
>
> I wish to be able to print a barcode .5 inches from top of the page and
> centered.
>
> I generate the barcode -
>
> yes 12345 | head -84 | barcode -p 5x5.0cm -umm -e CODE39 > test.ps;
>
> and print -
>
> lpr -o media=letter -#1
On 11/12/2014, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Thursday 11 December 2014 07:22:07 Bret Busby wrote:
>> Hence, is the term, in the context that it has been otherwise used in
>> this thread, to refer instead, to multi-user computers, not a
>> malapropism?
>
> The original term may or may not have been a mala
On Thursday 11 December 2014 07:22:07 Bret Busby wrote:
> Hence, is the term, in the context that it has been otherwise used in
> this thread, to refer instead, to multi-user computers, not a
> malapropism?
The original term may or may not have been a malapropism. Let us not get into
that. But
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