Le 11 déc. 2014 à 05:10, The Wanderer a écrit :
> On 12/10/2014 at 03:55 PM, Bob Proulx wrote:
>
>> B. M. wrote:
>>
>>> Bob Proulx a écrit :
>
>>> Thanks for the clarification, but in general I think I know how
>>> Debian works. My question was more that I don't see why Debian
>>> should use 4
On 11/12/2014, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Thursday 11 December 2014 06:17:39 Bret Busby wrote:
>> And, with all of the definitions and contentions that people have, is
>> a gateway/firewall server, as a single point of access to the
>> Internet, and, also, as a separate device, a modem/router, that al
Hi
Trying to connect to VPN at work but keep getting: "vpnc: no response from
target".
I have created my vpn.conf in /etc/vpnc/myconf.conf and also added Local
Port 1 as I've read some posts that the particular error message might
have to do
with a block in the firewall. Comparing with OSX -
On 11/12/2014, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Wednesday 10 December 2014 19:39:41 Paul E Condon wrote:
>> 2. 'Multi-seat' is several seats, which could only imply several persons
>>occupying those (several) seats.
>
> Yes, and all connected to a single somputer, but with two or more keyboards,
>
> mon
On Wednesday 10 December 2014 18:08:00 Martin Read wrote:
> On 10/12/14 13:26, Marty wrote:
> > On 12/08/2014 09:12 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> >> On Monday 08 December 2014 13:18:18 Marty wrote:
> >>> I would even deign to
> >>> give users a choice in the matter,
> >>
> >> [snip]
> >>
> >>> Multi-sea
Dear List -
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centered.
I generate the barcode -
yes 12345 | head -84 | barcode -p 5x5.0cm -umm -e CODE39 > test.ps;
and print -
lpr -o media=letter -#1 -P LJ1012 /var/www/test.ps -o page-top=33 -o page-bottom=44 -o page-l
On Thursday 11 December 2014 06:17:39 Bret Busby wrote:
> And, with all of the definitions and contentions that people have, is
> a gateway/firewall server, as a single point of access to the
> Internet, and, also, as a separate device, a modem/router, that allows
> four connections from behind it,
On 11/12/2014, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Wednesday 10 December 2014 19:39:41 Paul E Condon wrote:
>> 2. 'Multi-seat' is several seats, which could only imply several persons
>>occupying those (several) seats.
>
> Yes, and all connected to a single somputer, but with two or more keyboards,
>
> mon
On 12/10/2014 at 03:55 PM, Bob Proulx wrote:
> B. M. wrote:
>
>> Bob Proulx a écrit :
>> Thanks for the clarification, but in general I think I know how
>> Debian works. My question was more that I don't see why Debian
>> should use 4.14.2 or even 4.14.1 if upstream released 4.14.3 as
>> the las
On 12/10/2014 10:16 PM, Marc Shapiro wrote:
On 12/10/2014 02:42 PM, Joe wrote:
Proof of Concept. A bit short of a prototype.
There are two different concepts here, almost no home *workstation* will
be used truly multi-seat i.e. with more than one person connected
simultaneously to it. A home co
On 12/10/2014 at 03:34 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Mi, 10 dec 14, 13:27:21, Paul E Condon wrote:
>
>> What is 'PoC'? Probably will be blindly obvious once I've been
>> told.
>
> Most likely "Proof of Concept".
>
> Wikipedia's disambiguation pages have generally been quite helpful
> for me in
On 12/10/2014 02:42 PM, Joe wrote:
Proof of Concept. A bit short of a prototype.
There are two different concepts here, almost no home *workstation* will
be used truly multi-seat i.e. with more than one person connected
simultaneously to it. A home computer may have multiple users, but
generally
On 12/10/2014 03:05 PM, Gary Dale wrote:
I'm running Jessie on an AMD64 system.
Last night I took some pictures and tried my usual method of downloading
- I plugged in the phone through USB and selecting File Manager when the
notification window popped up. Navigating to
/store_00010001/DCIM/Camer
From: Brian
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2014 18:55:59 +
> I'd be thinking in terms of putting the command in a ~/.xsessionrc.
In one system that works with no problems.
peter@dalton:~$ cat .xsessionrc
xrandr --output VGA-0 --mode 1280x960 --rate 85.0
xrandr --output DVI-0 --auto --right-of
On 12/10/2014 01:08 PM, Martin Read wrote:
On 10/12/14 13:26, Marty wrote:
On 12/08/2014 09:12 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Monday 08 December 2014 13:18:18 Marty wrote:
I would even deign to
give users a choice in the matter,
[snip]
Multi-seat PC and other
anachronisms probably have to go away
On Wed 10 Dec 2014 at 13:30:22 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote:
> Brian wrote:
> > Ever since Wheezy automatic fsck has been disabled on new installs. For
> > the vast majority of users this passed unnoticed and for at least two
> > years most new users have never seen an enforced fsck at boot. During
> >
On 10/12/14 22:42, Joe wrote:
Unix gained a lot by being networked and multi-user right from the
start.
Multi-user, yes. Networked? Nope - and if you look closely, it shows.
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I'm running Jessie on an AMD64 system.
Last night I took some pictures and tried my usual method of downloading
- I plugged in the phone through USB and selecting File Manager when the
notification window popped up. Navigating to
/store_00010001/DCIM/Camera, I found a lot of pictures but not t
On Wed, 10 Dec 2014, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Ma, 09 dec 14, 18:48:54, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> >
> > What patterns did you see?
> >
> > What claims did I make? What a lot of Debian server admins think of
> > systemd? A rhetorical statement. A lot of Debian server admins
> > don't like syste
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From: Lisi Reisz [mailto:lisi.re...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 2:52 PM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: How is typical home computer used today?
On Wednesday 10 December 2014 19:39:41 Paul E Condon wrote:
> 2. 'Multi-seat' is several se
On Wednesday 10 December 2014 19:39:41 Paul E Condon wrote:
> 2. 'Multi-seat' is several seats, which could only imply several persons
> occupying those (several) seats.
Yes, and all connected to a single somputer, but with two or more keyboards,
monitors etc., logged in simultaneously. Becom
On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 12:39:41 -0700
Paul E Condon wrote:
> On 20141208_1214-0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
> > In a thread titled "Re: 9p/plumber to replace D-Bus?"
> > berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
> > [https://lists.debian.org/3d6a00a1c8bddc88b517b4e19cc68...@neutralite.org]>
> >
> > >
> >
On 20141210_1830+, Brian wrote:
> On Wed 10 Dec 2014 at 19:23:07 +0300, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:
>
> > On 10/12/2014 14:04, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > >
> > >Of course, there's also the option of completely disabling automatic
> > >fsck (there are several ways to do this), as I understan
I don't know if my system was proper one to make tests but...
Wow that was pain in the ass to go thru all of this X configuration
(again..:P)
So. The steps I made. I wanted to test this on my hardware. I've
installed all the packages for my arch (i386) but then it broke my X. So
I only left this o
On 12/10/2014 01:40 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Mi, 10 dec 14, 11:36:35, Jape Person wrote:
Using fsck.mode=force on the linux command line works fine for the purpose
of forcing a file system check at home, but I don't see a practical way to
use it on the remote systems. Do I really have to wa
On 08/12/2014, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Monday 08 December 2014 13:18:18 Marty wrote:
>> I would even deign to
>> give users a choice in the matter,
> [snip]
>> Multi-seat PC and other
>> anachronisms probably have to go away.
>
> Choice???
>
> Lisi
>
>
Ah, yes choice.
As "Multi-seat PC"
B. M. wrote:
> Bob Proulx a écrit :
> > B. M. wrote:
> >> I'm using Debian since about a year now, so this is my first freeze :-)
> >
> > When you say "using Debian" that is not sufficient to really describe
> > what you are doing. I use Debian Stable on production servers. I
> > also run Debian
Brian wrote:
> Ever since Wheezy automatic fsck has been disabled on new installs. For
> the vast majority of users this passed unnoticed and for at least two
> years most new users have never seen an enforced fsck at boot. During
> the same amount of time there has not been a single report of any
On Mi, 10 dec 14, 13:27:21, Paul E Condon wrote:
>
> What is 'PoC'? Probably will be blindly obvious once I've been told.
Most likely "Proof of Concept".
Wikipedia's disambiguation pages have generally been quite helpful for
me in figuring out this kind of stuff.
Kind regards,
Andrei
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On 10/12/14 03:27 PM, Paul E Condon wrote:
On 20141208_1643+0100, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 08.12.2014 14:18, Marty a écrit :
I almost tagged this off-topic but it's directed toward ordinary Debian
users (with developer backgrounds). I first raised this on
modular-debian but I
On 20141208_1643+0100, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
>
>
> Le 08.12.2014 14:18, Marty a écrit :
> >I almost tagged this off-topic but it's directed toward ordinary Debian
> >users (with developer backgrounds). I first raised this on
> >modular-debian but I want to get some ideas from a wid
Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> Bob Proulx a écrit :
> > Do you have any articles or blogs or postings you have written that
> > would summarize raid alternatives? I would enjoy reading whatever you
> > have written on the subject. Or if you recommended other references.
>
> There is no need to write a
Mihamina Rakotomandimby:
> On 12/10/2014 02:19 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>
>> https://wiki.debian.org/SecureApt#How_to_find_and_add_a_key
…
> - the page you told me has the "gpg" invocation, but how to guess
> "--keyserver" and "--recv-keys" parameters value?
The only real answer to your questio
Bernhard Frühmesser wrote:
> First the service xdm is now started long before other services (like dhcp,
> clamd, dansguardian...) are started.
> Before the upgrade xdm was the last service that was started which was ok.
Sounds like you are now using the parallel boot whereas before it was
the ser
On 20141208_1214-0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
> In a thread titled "Re: 9p/plumber to replace D-Bus?"
> berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
> [https://lists.debian.org/3d6a00a1c8bddc88b517b4e19cc68...@neutralite.org]>
>
> >
> >Le 08.12.2014 14:18, Marty a écrit :
> >>[SNIP]
> >>Multi-seat PC and o
On Wed 10 Dec 2014 at 08:53:08 +0300, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:
> On 09/12/2014 22:11, Brian wrote:
> >
> >GRUB can be told about an upcoming fsck and display a message inviting
> >you to choose to do it or not. So you get to know about it in advance;
> >which presumably you didn't know befo
Le 9 déc. 2014 à 18:48, Bob Proulx a écrit :
> B. M. wrote:
>> I'm using Debian since about a year now, so this is my first freeze :-)
>
> When you say "using Debian" that is not sufficient to really describe
> what you are doing. I use Debian Stable on production servers. I
> also run Debian
Le 9 déc. 2014 à 23:49, Liam O'Toole a écrit :
> On 2014-12-09, B. M. wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm using Debian since about a year now, so this is my first freeze
>> :-)
>>
>> How does the freeze work in regard to KDE: currently, many packages
>> are at 4.14.2, PIM is at 4.14.1 and the latest 4
On Mi, 10 dec 14, 13:57:01, Harry Putnam wrote:
> Andrei POPESCU writes:
>
> > So far every application *except xterm* I have tried has the same icon
> > in the top left corner of its window as well as the taskbar. I tried GTK
> > as well as Qt applications. To me this seems to indicate a bug i
On Mi, 10 dec 14, 10:39:21, The Wanderer wrote:
>
> At a glance, however, both of those look like they still require a USB
> connection... and my (APC) UPS doesn't seem to have a USB port. It does
> have a network port, so I imagine that maybe I could get things working
> with a network cable to t
Tixy writes:
> On Wed, 2014-12-10 at 07:25 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote:
>> Tixy writes:
>> > A (possibly wild) speculation is there's some race condition where the
>> > task bar button gets created before the application sets it's icon and
>> > then doesn't get notice or act on the change.
>
> As
Hugo Vanwoerkom writes:
> Harry Putnam wrote:
>> Running jessie
>> Using an lxde desktop... for a long time now
>>
>> (Note: for lack of a fuller vocabulary, the word icon is used to cover
>> a few different things below:)
>>
>> (Attached at bottom is a screen grab showing what I'm talking ab
On Mi, 10 dec 14, 11:36:35, Jape Person wrote:
>
> Using fsck.mode=force on the linux command line works fine for the purpose
> of forcing a file system check at home, but I don't see a practical way to
> use it on the remote systems. Do I really have to walk each of them through
> editing of the
Andrei POPESCU writes:
> So far every application *except xterm* I have tried has the same icon
> in the top left corner of its window as well as the taskbar. I tried GTK
> as well as Qt applications. To me this seems to indicate a bug in xterm
> rather than lxpanel.
I maybe mis-interpreting
On 12/10/2014 12:55 PM, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:
On 10/12/2014 20:32, Ric Moore wrote:
On 12/10/2014 12:53 AM, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:
All this just because you won't admit that
It's gotten to the point that wholesale deleting of this topic is in
order. :/ Ric
Yes, that, earp
On Wed 10 Dec 2014 at 19:23:07 +0300, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:
> On 10/12/2014 14:04, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> >
> >Of course, there's also the option of completely disabling automatic
> >fsck (there are several ways to do this), as I understand is the default
> >for new enough filesystems.
On Mi, 10 dec 14, 16:19:12, Bernhard Frühmesser wrote:
> Hi,
>
> After upgrading from Sqeeze to Wheezy i have two problems with starting up
> services while booting.
>
> First the service xdm is now started long before other services (like dhcp,
> clamd, dansguardian...) are started.
And why is
On Mi, 10 dec 14, 20:20:42, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
>
> - the key ofhttp://open.iabsis.com/debian/ is not part of
> debian-archive-keyring or debian-keyring, it's a 3rd party repo.
Of course, I wasn't implying it is.
> - I gave http://open.iabsis.com/debian/ as an example, but you can
On 12/10/14, 3:41 AM, "Frédéric Marchal"
wrote:
>Le Wednesday 10 December 2014 11:10:52, Frédéric Marchal a écrit :
>> Le Wednesday 10 December 2014 09:49:51, Gian Uberto Lauri a écrit :
>> > You run fsck on power up because the 'system does not remember' if it
>> > was shut-off cleanly or not. I
On 10/12/2014 20:32, Ric Moore wrote:
On 12/10/2014 12:53 AM, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:
All this just because you won't admit that
It's gotten to the point that wholesale deleting of this topic is in
order. :/ Ric
Yes, that, earplugs and blindfold, makes for quiet days. Sorry but I
di
On 10/12/14 13:26, Marty wrote:
On 12/08/2014 09:12 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Monday 08 December 2014 13:18:18 Marty wrote:
I would even deign to
give users a choice in the matter,
[snip]
Multi-seat PC and other
anachronisms probably have to go away.
Choice???
Lisi
The industry and its p
The Wanderer writes:
> On 12/10/2014 at 10:12 AM, Darac Marjal wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 09:42:43AM -0500, The Wanderer wrote:
>>
>>> On 12/10/2014 at 06:10 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>
That would be easy to implement, assuming you computer "knows"
it's running on batteries.
>
On 12/10/2014 12:53 AM, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:
All this just because you won't admit that
It's gotten to the point that wholesale deleting of this topic is in
order. :/ Ric
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"There are two Great Sins in the world...
..the Sin of Ignorance,
On 12/08/2014 10:43 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
About anachronism... you should read about what is the minitel*, and
then, consider thinking about how most people uses their computers ;)
*: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minitel
Anyone remember GTE Telemail?? :) Ric
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On Wednesday, December 10, 2014 10:10:05 PM UTC+5:30, Marty wrote:
> On 12/08/2014 09:12 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > On Monday 08 December 2014 13:18:18 Marty wrote:
> >> I would even deign to
> >> give users a choice in the matter,
> > [snip]
> >> Multi-seat PC and other
> >> anachronisms probably
On 12/10/2014 02:19 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Mi, 10 dec 14, 10:22:28, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
Hi all
I have to use a repo: http://open.iabsis.com/debian/
When adding it in my sources, apt complains about not having GPG key about
it.
Would you know how to guess the gpg invocation (se
On 12/10/2014 10:14 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
In my not so humble opinion, one should be using such a switch to
re-examine one's setup, practices, etc. You might discover some
"interesting" stuff. As far as I'm concerned:
1. I'll be looking into disabling periodic checks on all my ext4
partition
On 12/10/14 14:10, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote:
Christian Groessler writes:
> To get the machine to boot again, I had to enter the BIOS, disable the
> network card there,
Hmmm... you could have tried with a single user mode bootstrap, that
could have avoided you going to the BIOS.
That was i
Hello,
replying inline
On 10/12/2014 14:04, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Mi, 10 dec 14, 08:53:08, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:
All this just because you
won't admit that systemd took away a feature, and that it is systemd's
business to bring it back.
Mmm, I'll have to chime in here. The fact
On 12/08/2014 09:12 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Monday 08 December 2014 13:18:18 Marty wrote:
I would even deign to
give users a choice in the matter,
[snip]
Multi-seat PC and other
anachronisms probably have to go away.
Choice???
Lisi
The industry and its plans for FOSS is strongly anti-ch
Hi Rick,
>> Actually, THAT is the very reason we ask for the option to be able to cancel
>> a running fsck. You can never predict
>> EVERY situation when fsck would be run but needed to be avoided.
>> Maybe I asked a non tech to simply turn on the machine, how technical does
>> one need to be to
On 12/10/2014 at 10:14 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Mi, 10 dec 14, 09:29:17, The Wanderer wrote:
>
>> For such a user, this is not a systemd-centric question; it is a
>> Debian-centric one, and the responsibility of having caused it and
>> for fixing it is on Debian. Debian chose to switch to s
On 12/10/2014 at 10:12 AM, Darac Marjal wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 09:42:43AM -0500, The Wanderer wrote:
>
>> On 12/10/2014 at 06:10 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>>> That would be easy to implement, assuming you computer "knows"
>>> it's running on batteries.
>>
>> On batteries is easy enoug
>> > I've tried the i386 install (v7.7) CD multiple times and I've tried having
>> > it put GRUB on the MBR and on the partition and neither way resulted
>> > in a bootable install.
>> I think this can be made to work with a bit of twiddling (e.g. using
>> lilo or grub-legacy, or maybe tweaking of
>> I want to get back to the root of the problem and claim, that I want
>> to be able to interrupt *any* startup command, not just fsck.
> The debug shell could be (part of) the answer,
You mean, they're probably going to answer by pointing us to the
debug shell? Yes, probably. But it's again ju
On Mi, 10 dec 14, 09:42:43, The Wanderer wrote:
>
> Both of those latter situations are similarly time-limited, and even if
> there are heuristic solutions for the others, the last at least will
> generally not be something the computer can detect and identify.
As said in my other message:
1. di
> I want to get back to the root of the problem and claim, that I want
> to be able to interrupt *any* startup command, not just fsck.
Oh, yes, me too! !
Systemd's boot seems to suffer a lot more from such problems. E.g. it
waits for a long time before timeout if one of the partitions in
/etc/f
On Mi, 10 dec 14, 09:29:17, The Wanderer wrote:
>
> For such a user, this is not a systemd-centric question; it is a
> Debian-centric one, and the responsibility of having caused it and for
> fixing it is on Debian. Debian chose to switch to systemd, and that
> switch introduced this bug; it is th
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 09:42:43AM -0500, The Wanderer wrote:
> On 12/10/2014 at 06:10 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>
> > On Mi, 10 dec 14, 07:32:07, Renaud OLGIATI wrote:
> >
> >> In my case no, more likely during shut-down, since the only time I
> >> shut down my box is when there is a power cut,
Hi,
After upgrading from Sqeeze to Wheezy i have two problems with starting
up services while booting.
First the service xdm is now started long before other services (like
dhcp, clamd, dansguardian...) are started.
Before the upgrade xdm was the last service that was started which was ok.
>> Actually, it's *always* a surprise. These fsck happen at long enough
>> intervals, that I can never know if it was "4 months ago" or "7 months
>> ago", and neither can I remember which laptop/desktop has the delay set
>> to 172 days vs 194 days vs 98 days vs ...
> Can't you write a small script
On 12/10/2014 at 06:10 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Mi, 10 dec 14, 07:32:07, Renaud OLGIATI wrote:
>
>> In my case no, more likely during shut-down, since the only time I
>> shut down my box is when there is a power cut, and I have to shut
>> it down quickly, before the UPS gives up. So I certa
On 12/10/2014 at 06:04 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Mi, 10 dec 14, 08:53:08, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:
>
>> All this just because you won't admit that systemd took away a
>> feature, and that it is systemd's business to bring it back.
>
> Mmm, I'll have to chime in here. The fact is, sys
On Wed 10 Dec 2014 at 13:26:57 +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Mi, 10 dec 14, 13:04:16, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> >
> > Of course, there's also the option of completely disabling automatic
> > fsck (there are several ways to do this), as I understand is the default
> > for new enough filesystem
On Mi, 10 dec 14, 08:04:00, Tixy wrote:
>
> I started getting the same problem at a similar time with Jessie LXDE.
> Do your applications have the correct icons in the top left of their
> windows still? Mine does, it's just the taskbar which is wrong.
>
> A (possibly wild) speculation is there's
On Mi, 10 dec 14, 13:41:51, Christian Groessler wrote:
>
> I want to get back to the root of the problem and claim, that I want to be
> able to interrupt *any* startup
> command, not just fsck.
The debug shell could be (part of) the answer, but beware of the
security risks. See /usr/share/doc/sy
On 12/10/2014 01:23 PM, Nick Mpallas wrote:
> I am building a platform and I need to compile apache mesos from sources. The
> issue is that the guys the require support for specific c++11 features that in
> the 4.7 compiler currently supported by debian aren't there. Will the g++
> compiler will be
Christian Groessler writes:
> To get the machine to boot again, I had to enter the BIOS, disable the
> network card there,
Hmmm... you could have tried with a single user mode bootstrap, that
could have avoided you going to the BIOS.
> Quite a dance instead of just typing "^C"
^C could
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 01:23:31PM +0100, Nick Mpallas wrote:
>Hi guys,
>I am building a platform and I need to compile apache mesos from sources.
>The issue is that the guys the require support for specific c++11 features
>that in the 4.7 compiler currently supported by debian aren
Le 2014-12-10 13:23, Nick Mpallas a écrit :
> Hi guys,
> I am building a platform and I need to compile apache mesos from sources. The
> issue is that the guys the require support for specific c++11 features that
> in the 4.7 compiler currently supported by debian aren't there. Will the g++
It seems the discussion revolves around methods to disable an automatic
fsck when it
is not wanted.
It went away from an obvious solution (^C a running fsck) and suggests
compilcated and/or
convoluted workarounds, which have to be implemented or enabled proactively.
I want to get back to the
On Wed, 2014-12-10 at 07:25 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote:
> Tixy writes:
> > A (possibly wild) speculation is there's some race condition where the
> > task bar button gets created before the application sets it's icon and
> > then doesn't get notice or act on the change.
As an experiment I removed
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>On Mi, 10 dec 14, 00:51:16, Tad Bak wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> The subject says all: after issuing the command:
>>
>> apt-get install librecad
>>
[...]
>
> Works here (i386). Did you 'apt-get update' recently?
>
> Kind regards,
> Andrei
Yes, just earlier today there were a couple o
On Tue, 09 Dec 2014, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Dec 2014, Chris Bannister wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 09:48:58AM +0100, Frédéric Marchal wrote:
> > > Now, is it possible to run fsck during shutdown? Users have been asking
> > > for
> > > this for at least 10 years. Is
Andrei POPESCU writes:
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Whoops, forgot the promised screen grab:
Andrei POPESCU writes:
> On Ma, 09 dec 14, 11:05:23, Harry Putnam wrote:
>>
>> Further, some indicators still show the regular icon. One I notice is
>> iceweasel.
>>
>> I'd like the old behavior back but have no idea how to start digging
>> into it.
>
> I'm guessing the icon is set by the app
Hi guys,
I am building a platform and I need to compile apache mesos from sources.
The issue is that the guys the require support for specific c++11 features
that in the 4.7 compiler currently supported by debian aren't there. Will
the g++ compiler will be updated?We would like to use debian as the
On Wed, 10 Dec 2014, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Mi, 10 dec 14, 07:32:07, Renaud OLGIATI wrote:
> > In my case no, more likely during shut-down, since the only time I
> > shut down my box is when there is a power cut, and I have to shut it
> > down quickly, before the UPS gives up. So I certainly
Le Wednesday 10 December 2014 11:10:52, Frédéric Marchal a écrit :
> Le Wednesday 10 December 2014 09:49:51, Gian Uberto Lauri a écrit :
> > You run fsck on power up because the 'system does not remember' if it
> > was shut-off cleanly or not. If the disks are clean and the last check
> > is not to
On Mi, 10 dec 14, 13:04:16, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>
> Of course, there's also the option of completely disabling automatic
> fsck (there are several ways to do this), as I understand is the default
> for new enough filesystems. This would make more sense for me on systems
> with bad power (you'
Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI writes:
> On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 09:49:51 +0100
> "Gian Uberto Lauri" wrote:
>
> > fsck may take time. Relax, it needs that time.
>
> What if I do not have that time,
Find it (this includes planning - of infrastructure and procedures if
required).
No other choices.
Le
Frédéric Marchal writes:
> > Usually on shutdown you run sync that flushes the cache to the disk,
> > cleanly preparing the disk for unmounting. The mount command should
> > 'run' sync automatically when unmounting.
> >
> > You run fsck on power up because the 'system does not remember' if it
On Mi, 10 dec 14, 07:32:07, Renaud OLGIATI wrote:
>
> In my case no, more likely during shut-down, since the only time I
> shut down my box is when there is a power cut, and I have to shut it
> down quickly, before the UPS gives up. So I certainly do not want an
> unwanted automatic fsck at tha
On Mi, 10 dec 14, 08:53:08, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:
> All this just because you
> won't admit that systemd took away a feature, and that it is systemd's
> business to bring it back.
Mmm, I'll have to chime in here. The fact is, systemd never implemented
this feature, while your statement
On Mi, 10 dec 14, 10:22:28, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote:
> Hi all
>
> I have to use a repo: http://open.iabsis.com/debian/
> When adding it in my sources, apt complains about not having GPG key about
> it.
> Would you know how to guess the gpg invocation (server, key,...) in order to
> import it
On Mi, 10 dec 14, 00:51:16, Tad Bak wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The subject says all: after issuing the command:
>
> apt-get install librecad
>
> I am getting:
> [...]
> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
> librecad : Depends: libqt4-help (>= 4:4.5.3) but it is not going to be
> installed
>
On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 09:49:51 +0100
"Gian Uberto Lauri" wrote:
> fsck may take time. Relax, it needs that time.
What if I do not have that time, and an un-interruptible fsck is launched
automatically ?
This regression must be got rid of.
Cheers,
Ron.
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Progress in
On Ma, 09 dec 14, 18:48:54, Patrick Bartek wrote:
>
> What patterns did you see?
>
> What claims did I make? What a lot of Debian server admins think of
> systemd? A rhetorical statement. A lot of Debian server admins
> don't like systemd to put it mildly. They said so -- explicitly -- with
>
On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 09:07:52 +0100
Frédéric Marchal wrote:
> > In the case of regularly failing power it would probably be more often
> > inconvenient to run fsck at shutdown.
> Power failures are as likely to occur during boot, don't they?
In my case no, more likely during shut-down, since t
At second glance, I noticed these packages are for Wheezy/stable.
So the experimental archive is not appropriate for these packages.
These fixes seem to be not included in the sid packages yet?
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Regards,
jvp.
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