On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 07:31:33AM CET, Joerg Desch said:
> Am Mon, 17 Nov 2014 15:29:21 +0100 schrieb Erwan David:
>
> > Is there a printable/epub/pdf version of systemd for administrators ?
>
> http://www.bandwidthco.com/whitepapers/os/linux/systemd/systemd%20for%
> 20Administrators.pdf
>
> G
Здравствуйте!
Модель ноутбука Acer Aspire v5-572g-73538g50akk. Какой модуль подойдет
для картридера? Искал рецепты в гугле, но так и не понял какой лучше
всего поставить: rts_bpp или с сайта realtek rts5229 (или еще один
вариант rts_pstor тоже с сайта realtek). Может кто сталкивался?
lspci:
On Mon, 17 Nov 2014 15:15:25 +0100
Cyril Alberts wrote:
> Hello,
>
> today I realized a strange bug (maybe there is a reason for it but I
> dont know):
>
> All our employees have a directory/folder at our (wheezy-lts) server,
> which is for interchange. Everybody gets a folder with his name w
Am Mon, 17 Nov 2014 15:29:21 +0100 schrieb Erwan David:
> Is there a printable/epub/pdf version of systemd for administrators ?
http://www.bandwidthco.com/whitepapers/os/linux/systemd/systemd%20for%
20Administrators.pdf
Google leads me to this link... ;-)
I don't know the state of this document
UGH! Looks like Gregory Smith has returned with a new handle -
SystemBlues. Does anybody read his swill?
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The newer version of gnuplot is issuing a warning that I have never
seen before:
Qt: Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason :
None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and
host-based authentication failed
Apparently Qt believes it has to 'authenticate' the da
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Paul E Condon
wrote:
> I also track some daily stock prices using gnuplot. I
> want to keep that going, generating a new plot every
> time I download new data.
Jochen already answered your question about backports. But I am
curious about something. How are you pul
Free software worked great for a time, it was a movement
on the upswing. Then it was noticed. Feminists appeared
and lobbied to have those of unclean mind excluded from
the free/opensource movement, only those who believed
the correct thing were allowed to stay. Code nor contribution
mattered anym
Blues song about systemd.
A friend of mine and I, we sat down one afternoon,
and there was something bothering us. I for one
couldn't get it out of my head. It was a feeling,
and it wasn't good.
It was the feeling of getting dicked down
by SystemD.
We put this feeling, the feeling we've never
fe
Eventual lament (nylon string guitar):
I was recording one evening and at some point wandered into a lament.
http://youtu.be/PCJ-CWYoY9s
I though many would feel the same, once comes in full lennart's reign.
Please don't let it happen.
(C) Gnu GPL v2
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On 11/16/2014 10:01 PM, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:
Thanks for pointing out that Apache requires additional configuration.
I initially looked at
http://perl.apache.org/docs/2.0/user/intro/start_fast.html before
posting to the list. But it was difficult to follow since the website
tries to configur
Ummm those are NOT systemd scripts shipped by the upstream sendmail
developers. They ship sysvinit scripts, period. Which is my point.
Major upstream application developers do not seem to be jumping on
systemd. If anything, what I'm seeing are "oh sh&t, I guess we should
develop systemd
On 18/11/14 12:54, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> I left out sendmail, but I just checked, and
> guess what, no systemd service file in upstream).
xy?
Did you try Google?
https://www.google.com/search?q=systemd+%2B%22sendmail.service%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&&channel=sb
>
> What do they know?
>
>
On 11/17/2014 01:54 PM, Ludovic Meyer wrote:
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 08:29:28PM -0500, Marty wrote:
On 11/16/2014 03:32 PM, Ludovic Meyer wrote:
>On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 01:05:08PM -0500, Marty wrote:
>>My point is that in a modular design nothing should be so entrenched
>>as to be irreplaceabl
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 07:49:51PM -0500, João Luís Correia de Medeiros wrote:
> Dear sir or madam,
> Same thing goes for my wireless card (I was unfortunate enough to get a
> realtek chip, it's an RTL8192 ), I install firmware-realtek from Debian ( And
> firmware-Linux-nonfree ) hoping it's all
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 06:32:43AM -0500, Tanstaafl wrote:
> Some people think sex should only be for procreation...
Are you procreation or against it?
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oppr
Ludovic Meyer wrote:
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 06:34:47PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Ludovic Meyer wrote:
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 02:56:20PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Given all the talk about not being able to influence upstream, it
occurred to me to actually take a look at which of the maj
Dear sir or madam,
I have an Ati Radeon 7850, and have tried using in Debian Stable.
However, I am constantly greeted by X.org issues (in this case, it being unable
to start, I'm guessing because of the kernel mod not being properly installed
because I'm using an outdated kernel?)
So, in su
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 06:34:47PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> Ludovic Meyer wrote:
> >On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 02:56:20PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> >>>Given all the talk about not being able to influence upstream, it
> >>>occurred to me to actually take a look at which of the major
> >>>app
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 12:41:14AM +0300, Reco wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 07:15:38PM +0100, Ludovic Meyer wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 06:29:24PM +0300, Reco wrote:
> > > Hi.
> > >
> > > On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 03:48:34PM +0100, Ludovic Meyer wrote:
> > > > On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 09:
Ludovic Meyer wrote:
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 02:56:20PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Given all the talk about not being able to influence upstream, it
occurred to me to actually take a look at which of the major
applications I rely on actually come with native systemd service
scripts. I just wen
On 17/11/2014 15:14, Paul H wrote:
> My plan is that if I find myself depending on packages which no
> longer work under sysvinit-core, I'll rebuild those packages for
> myself as needed (and share the results, if that's helpful): I have
> to do this already now anyway, for example to use build opt
On 17/11/2014 14:12, Jean-Christian de Rivaz wrote:
> Why did you think that localhost sockets activation is not
> deterministic ? When local process use localhost sockets, there is no
> transmission media with risk of packet loss, alteration, random
> latency, or reordering.
I was thinking more i
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 02:56:20PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> >Given all the talk about not being able to influence upstream, it
> >occurred to me to actually take a look at which of the major
> >applications I rely on actually come with native systemd service
> >scripts. I just went through th
Paul E Condon:
>
> I also track some daily stock prices using gnuplot. I
> want to keep that going, generating a new plot every
> time I download new data. Of the several backports,
> I think one is intended to be the survivor when Jessie
> is actually released. Which one is that? Or is there
> a
I'm currently using Jessie on my personal, home computer,
i.e. the one I use to ask for help on this list. I hope
to keep it running with only brief intervals of outage.
I also track some daily stock prices using gnuplot. I
want to keep that going, generating a new plot every
time I download new d
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 08:44:06AM +0900, Joel Rees wrote:
> One thing at a time.
>
> On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 1:23 AM, Ludovic Meyer wrote:
> > [...]
> > Your definition of mainstream is strange.
>
> What's strange about it? Do I need to provide a link to the dictionary
> for you for that? I ass
On 17/11/14 03:43 PM, pas...@denbekker.de wrote:
Hello,
Im experiencing a problem with my Software Raid. It has always running
without problems. Since this morning Im seeing this line in the
/var/log/syslog:
DeviceDisappeared event detected on md device /dev/md0
ls -l /dev/md0
ls: cannot
On 17/11/2014 08:42, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>> with systemd I have to have
>>
>> waitforgps.sh
>> waitforgps.service (Exec=waitforgps.sh)
>> service.service (After=waitforgps.service)
>>
>> Is this really the best way?
>
> Maybe ExecStartPre= would help? See systemd.service(5).
Oh yes, this is muc
On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 07:15:38PM +0100, Ludovic Meyer wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 06:29:24PM +0300, Reco wrote:
> > Hi.
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 03:48:34PM +0100, Ludovic Meyer wrote:
> > > On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 09:41:23PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> > > > As much as I dislike
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 04:09:52PM -0500, The Wanderer wrote:
> On 11/16/2014 at 02:51 PM, Ludovic Meyer wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 01:28:35PM -0500, The Wanderer wrote:
>
> [about the Linux kernel developers]
>
> >> They do, however, maintain their external interfaces - rigidly so,
>
Le 16/11/2014 02:13, Ludovic Meyer a écrit :
> On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 10:05:49PM +0100, Erwan David wrote:
>> Le 15/11/2014 20:24, Brian a écrit :
>>> On Sat 15 Nov 2014 at 11:37:14 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
>>>
Brian wrote:
> On Sat 15 Nov 2014 at 13:49:18 +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
Hello,
Im experiencing a problem with my Software Raid. It has always running
without problems. Since this morning Im seeing this line in the
/var/log/syslog:
DeviceDisappeared event detected on md device /dev/md0
ls -l /dev/md0
ls: cannot access /dev/md0: No such file or directory
the
> Which Debian release? Kernel? Motherboard make/ model? CPU model? RAM
module(s)
> make/ model? SSD exact model? Defaults? Customizations?
My initial post was indeed a little light on details, so here's more info:
I'm dealing with a pristine installation of Wheezy. It is running on a
Supermicro A1
Given all the talk about not being able to influence upstream, it
occurred to me to actually take a look at which of the major
applications I rely on actually come with native systemd service
scripts. I just went through the documentation, and in some cases, the
source trees, for the following:
On Mon 17 Nov 2014 at 19:54:48 +0100, Erwan David wrote:
> Le 17/11/2014 17:39, Brian a écrit :
> > On Mon 17 Nov 2014 at 15:29:21 +0100, Erwan David wrote:
> >
> >> Is there a printable/epub/pdf version of systemd for administrators ?
> >>
> >> 20+ HTML pages is very difficult to read, just becau
On Lu, 17 nov 14, 07:29:00, Marty wrote:
> On 11/17/2014 01:13 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> >On Du, 16 nov 14, 13:22:54, Marty wrote:
> >>On 11/16/2014 11:50 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> >>
> >>>In the later case, one just has to read:
> >>>http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Incompatibi
Eduard Bloch wrote:
Hallo,
* Nate Bargmann [Mon, Nov 17 2014, 07:46:48AM]:
Since systemd hatters usually fail on the second task, the rhetorical
arsenal is chosen accordingly (ad-hominem, trolling, misquoting, ...).
Here is the crux of the problem in these discussions and that is the use
of "ha
On 2014-11-17, Erwan David wrote:
>
> Which would (in addition to being tedious) do an ugly job because of web
> pages decorations and the fact that a webpage does not map well on a pdf
> page.
>
In iceweasal printing to file turns out a nice-looking pdf in my
opinion.
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On Mon, 17 Nov 2014, Harry Putnam wrote:
> With emacs24-lucid installed, I can find no info files for emacs-24
They're in the emacs24-common-non-dfsg package, which is in non-free.
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Maybe I did steal your heart
and I am such a per
Le 17/11/2014 17:39, Brian a écrit :
> On Mon 17 Nov 2014 at 15:29:21 +0100, Erwan David wrote:
>
>> Is there a printable/epub/pdf version of systemd for administrators ?
>>
>> 20+ HTML pages is very difficult to read, just becaus it requires mouse
>> movement.
>>
>> Even one only HTML page would
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 08:29:28PM -0500, Marty wrote:
> On 11/16/2014 03:32 PM, Ludovic Meyer wrote:
> >On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 01:05:08PM -0500, Marty wrote:
>
> >>My point is that in a modular design nothing should be so entrenched
> >>as to be irreplaceable. Absence of an alternate should not
Hallo,
* Nate Bargmann [Mon, Nov 17 2014, 07:46:48AM]:
> > Since systemd hatters usually fail on the second task, the rhetorical
> > arsenal is chosen accordingly (ad-hominem, trolling, misquoting, ...).
> Here is the crux of the problem in these discussions and that is the use
> of "haters" as an
On Mon, 17 Nov 2014, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
> So, what part of that disk should I extract, which could be usable
> and sharable? Partition table, of course, which is probably at
> disk's beginning, but how long might it be?
That depends. What kind of partition table?
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| To: help-gnu-em...@gnu.org
| Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 13:29:46 -0500 (2 minutes, 9 seconds ago)
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On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 06:29:24PM +0300, Reco wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 03:48:34PM +0100, Ludovic Meyer wrote:
> > On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 09:41:23PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> > > As much as I dislike systemd, I'm not sure that it's a vendor
> > > conspiracy to "control the L
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
...
> PS: when I think about how crappy all of this is, and that I remember
> that many people said me that websites runs in the same way everywhere,
> I just laugh. I try to remember it everyday, since there is a rumor
> which says that laughing 5min per day
Le 17.11.2014 17:55, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh a écrit :
On Mon, 17 Nov 2014, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Now, fact is that the hard-disk partition table is no longer
correct, and when I plug it (it is an USB HD) into a Debian system,
it makes udev eating all my memory, and more.
On 2014-11-17 17:05, i...@thargoid.co.uk wrote:
On 2014-11-17 17:02, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
Hi,
On 11/17/2014 05:26 PM, i...@thargoid.co.uk wrote:
I am seeing a rather strange error. I have a wheezy VM which I am
trying to update, but I get the above error on the main source and
also
on s
On Sun, 2014-11-16 at 18:56 -0800, David Christensen wrote:
> That SSD appears to have hardware encryption. So, why dm-crypt?
So you can copy/backup/move disks and partitions without worrying about
whether you can get access to the result in the future? Because you
don't want to trust or rely on
On Mon, 17 Nov 2014, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
> Now, fact is that the hard-disk partition table is no longer
> correct, and when I plug it (it is an USB HD) into a Debian system,
> it makes udev eating all my memory, and more.
Please image the partition table so that someone can reprod
On 2014-11-17 17:02, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
Hi,
On 11/17/2014 05:26 PM, i...@thargoid.co.uk wrote:
I am seeing a rather strange error. I have a wheezy VM which I am
trying to update, but I get the above error on the main source and
also
on security source:
W: GPG error: http://security.de
Hi,
On 11/17/2014 05:26 PM, i...@thargoid.co.uk wrote:
> I am seeing a rather strange error. I have a wheezy VM which I am
> trying to update, but I get the above error on the main source and also
> on security source:
>
> W: GPG error: http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates Release:
> Inter
On Mon 17 Nov 2014 at 15:29:21 +0100, Erwan David wrote:
> Is there a printable/epub/pdf version of systemd for administrators ?
>
> 20+ HTML pages is very difficult to read, just becaus it requires mouse
> movement.
>
> Even one only HTML page would be better.
DIY. Save the pages to file, 1.p
On 16/11/14 09:31 PM, Joel Roth wrote:
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 08:52:30PM -0500, Gary Dale wrote:
On 16/11/14 06:39 PM, Joel Roth wrote:
Did you try starting the VMs directly using the qemu command?
Don't have qemu installed. virsh reports:
Maybe there is some connection (c.f. Subject:)
qemu
Le 17.11.2014 14:45, songbird a écrit :
sometimes i have issues with a website and i cannot
tell if it is a problem with the browser or a problem
with the website. obviously i am not a website
developer so this sort of issue isn't clear where i
need to poke at things more...
are there any t
Hello all
I am seeing a rather strange error. I have a wheezy VM which I am
trying to update, but I get the above error on the main source and also
on security source:
W: GPG error: http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates Release:
Internal error: Good signature, but could not determine k
On Mon, 11/17/14, songbird wrote:
Subject: Web site conformance and various browsers
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date: Monday, November 17, 2014, 7:45 AM
sometimes i have issues with a website and i cannot
tell if it is a problem with the browser or a problem
with the website. obviou
Hi,
On 11/17/2014 02:45 PM, songbird wrote:
> sometimes i have issues with a website and i cannot
> tell if it is a problem with the browser or a problem
> with the website. obviously i am not a website
> developer so this sort of issue isn't clear where i
> need to poke at things more...
>
>
Hello.
I think most of my problem's description is in title, but here are some
more informations.
I have a hard disk on which I tried a... quite unusual... procedure to
install another OS. My try in this procedure [1] did not went well at
all, but it's not the subject of this mail.
Now, fact
Am 2014-11-17 16:15, schrieb The Wanderer:
Part of what I found reassuring about the statements that Debian's
default systemd configuration stores the journal's binary logs only
in
memory was the idea that it would not be (needing to) write the log
data
separately to the binary format, or possi
Hi.
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 03:48:34PM +0100, Ludovic Meyer wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 09:41:23PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> > As much as I dislike systemd, I'm not sure that it's a vendor
> > conspiracy to "control the Linux ecosystem." Yes, redhat pays
> > Lennart Poettering's salary
On 11/17/2014 at 10:06 AM, Christian Seiler wrote:
> Am 2014-11-17 15:54, schrieb The Wanderer:
>
>> On 11/17/2014 at 08:21 AM, Martin Read wrote:
>>> A default Debian jessie configuration has persistent text logs
>>> in /var/log written by rsyslog, and *volatile* binary logs in
>>> /run/log/jo
Am 2014-11-17 15:54, schrieb The Wanderer:
On 11/17/2014 at 08:21 AM, Martin Read wrote:
On 17/11/14 12:25, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote:
There were other poor design choices, it seems that Debian
maintainers have fixed some of them (i.e. renaming network
devices), other seems to be still there (b
On 11/17/2014 03:54 PM, The Wanderer wrote:
> On 11/17/2014 at 08:21 AM, Martin Read wrote:
>> A default Debian jessie configuration has persistent text logs in
>> /var/log written by rsyslog, and *volatile* binary logs in
>> /run/log/journal written by systemd-journald. Removing the binary
>> logs
On 11/17/2014 at 08:21 AM, Martin Read wrote:
> On 17/11/14 12:25, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote:
>
>> There were other poor design choices, it seems that Debian
>> maintainers have fixed some of them (i.e. renaming network
>> devices), other seems to be still there (binary logs...).
>
> A default Deb
Is there a printable/epub/pdf version of systemd for administrators ?
20+ HTML pages is very difficult to read, just becaus it requires mouse
movement.
Even one only HTML page would be better.
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Hello,
today I realized a strange bug (maybe there is a reason for it but I
dont know):
All our employees have a directory/folder at our (wheezy-lts) server,
which is for interchange. Everybody gets a folder with his name where
anybody can put things in. It is connected to Windows Clients by
Martin Read writes:
> Administrators of systemd-based systems who wish to turn off the binary
> log can, of course, simply add the line
>
> Storage=none
Happy to hear that Debian configuration is now sane.
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sometimes i have issues with a website and i cannot
tell if it is a problem with the browser or a problem
with the website. obviously i am not a website
developer so this sort of issue isn't clear where i
need to poke at things more...
are there any tools available which help sort that
out (
* On 2014 17 Nov 06:01 -0600, Eduard Bloch wrote:
> Since systemd hatters usually fail on the second task, the rhetorical
> arsenal is chosen accordingly (ad-hominem, trolling, misquoting, ...).
Here is the crux of the problem in these discussions and that is the use
of "haters" as an ad hominem a
On 17/11/14 21:14, Jeremiah Foster wrote:
>> This is a very onerous requirement in the embedded world. There are many
>> embedded platforms sold today that only have 2.6.X BSPs.
> But I highly doubt those devices have modern userlands.
Which is why we (emdebian users) have ditched the job of maint
On Sun, 16 Nov 2014, David Fuchs wrote:
> I am setting up a system with an Intel octo-core Avoton, which has AES-NI
> support. After doing some crude benchmarking tests with dd, I am surprised
> about the huge performance penalty that full-disk encryption apparently has
> on read/write throughput.
On 17/11/14 12:25, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote:
There were other poor design choices, it seems that Debian maintainers
have fixed some of them (i.e. renaming network devices), other seems
to be still there (binary logs...).
A default Debian jessie configuration has persistent text logs in
/var/log
Le 16. 11. 14 19:52, Robert a écrit :
By choosing packages carefully, it is possible to use linux in
applications that need to meet SIL1 or SIL2 criteria [1]. I personally
don't have any applications that need to meet SIL2, but it is possible
to meet SIL1 by taking a normal installation and remov
On 11/17/2014 01:13 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Du, 16 nov 14, 13:22:54, Marty wrote:
On 11/16/2014 11:50 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
>In the later case, one just has to read:
>http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Incompatibilities/
>to get very, very scared
Each one a bug as per De
Eduard Bloch writes:
> That's not my impression. It's more like: if you don't like systemd,
> don't use it.
If I am left free of doing it, there is no problem, Debian does not
force me to use any desktop environment at all, and that pleases me
much, so if I am left free to use an older, tested a
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 12:29:45PM -0600, John Hasler wrote:
> OdyX writes:
> > ...please stop. Seriously.
>
> Please stop ranting about the ranting. Seriously. It's just as
> distracting and irritating as the rants themselves. Just filter the
> rant threads and those who post them. I'd filte
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 12:00:52PM -0500, Ric Moore wrote:
> On 11/15/2014 08:35 PM, Ludovic Meyer wrote:
>
> >At the same time, most debian users likely do not really care about
> >transition
> >plan and systemd. It was widely published everywhere in March and yet, no
> >one would have cared if
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 10:14:17PM +0900, Joel Rees wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 8:51 PM, Andrei POPESCU
> wrote:
> > On Vi, 14 nov 14, 22:53:36, Joel Rees wrote:
> >>
> >> If you can't deal with it, snip it?
> >
> > I don't think it brings anything useful to a discussion on -user. That's
> >
Hallo,
* Slavko [Sat, Nov 08 2014, 04:13:12PM]:
> > Why don't the anti-systemd people do what they've been threatening the
> > whole time and fuck off to another distro or to FreeBSD?
>
> This is exact example why i stopped all my contribution to Debian, and
> i will not start it again, despite if
On 11/17/2014 6:10 AM, Chris Bannister wrote:
> Excuse me, but some people think anatomy jokes are distasteful.
Some people think sex should only be for procreation...
PC police get sooo tiring...
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On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 01:13:05PM -0500, Ric Moore wrote:
> On 11/15/2014 08:51 AM, Curt wrote:
> >On 2014-11-15, Renaud OLGIATI wrote:
> >>>
> >>>Why can't you wrap your lines while you're at it?
> >>
> >>Can't you set your mail client to wrap them for you ?
> >>
> >
> >Sure, and I can killfile
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>
> This was recently posted on #systemd-devel:
>
> "To make this clear, we expect that systemd and kernels are updated in
> lockstep. We explicitly do not support really old kernels with reall
Hallo,
* st [Tue, Nov 11 2014, 02:01:46AM]:
> Hans wrote:
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> >And at the beginning things never work perfect
>
> That's why they shouldn't make it into Stable as defaults,
> now should they?
We shouldn't and we are not. Because it's not "the beginning", systemd
already has multiple years of his
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 08:52:37PM +0200, Robert wrote:
> This was recently posted on #systemd-devel:
>
> "To make this clear, we expect that systemd and kernels are updated in
> lockstep. We explicitly do not support really old kernels with really
> new systemd. So far we had the focus to support
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 7:52 PM, Robert wrote:
> By choosing packages carefully, it is possible to use linux in
> applications that need to meet SIL1 or SIL2 criteria [1].
No. At least this is my understanding of the situation today. SIL, or
System Integrity Level, is something that needs to be
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