Re: Installing/updating packages are very slow

2014-11-13 Thread Bret Busby
On 26/10/2014, Curt wrote: > On 2014-10-25, Bret Busby wrote: >> >> which, from my understanding of a previous post or web page, relating >> to Debian 6 LTS, is what is supposed to be in that file, to have >> Debian 6 LTS updating as it should. >> > > What I see here > > https://wiki.debian.org/L

bug report

2014-11-13 Thread Georges Jamieson
I was trying to install jasper on a Raspbery Pi. The installation failed and requested that I send in a bug report thus my email. I can not understand the instructions for doing so but I did see this email address as a place to ask for instructions on bug reporting. Here is the message I received

HURD

2014-11-13 Thread Jetro Costa
When Debian Hurd gona be ready for us for x64 plataform? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1415929902.3579.1.camel@gordao300

LXC guest shutdown terminates host SSH session

2014-11-13 Thread Mario Castelán Castro
Hello. I have noticed that in Debian 7.7, when shutting down a Debian guest with "shutdown" the host ongoing SSH sessions terminate and I can't connect to the host anymore through SSH. However I can still access the host through the its terminal. Why does this effect on SSH happens, and how c

engineering management practices and systemd (Re: Installing an Alternative Init?)

2014-11-13 Thread Joel Rees
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 11:04 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 11/12/2014 5:18 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: >> On Mi, 12 nov 14, 15:43:09, Tanstaafl wrote: >>> >>> Sounds good to me, but in reality, since the default *and only* init >>> system for the last very many years was Sysvinit (this extremely salie

Re: systemd mpd trouble

2014-11-13 Thread sp113438
On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 22:58:45 +0200 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Jo, 13 nov 14, 18:37:00, sp113438 wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Systemd is starting fast, but shutdown takes ages. > > It seems unable to stop service mpd (Music Player Daemon). > > Does the shutdown work fine if you stop mpd in advance?

Re: systemd mpd trouble

2014-11-13 Thread sp113438
On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 22:58:45 +0200 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Jo, 13 nov 14, 18:37:00, sp113438 wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Systemd is starting fast, but shutdown takes ages. > > It seems unable to stop service mpd (Music Player Daemon). > > Does the shutdown work fine if you stop mpd in advance?

Re: systemd mpd trouble

2014-11-13 Thread sp113438
On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 22:58:45 +0200 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Jo, 13 nov 14, 18:37:00, sp113438 wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Systemd is starting fast, but shutdown takes ages. > > It seems unable to stop service mpd (Music Player Daemon). > > Does the shutdown work fine if you stop mpd in advance?

Re: Installing an Alternative Init?

2014-11-13 Thread Brian
On Thu 13 Nov 2014 at 10:49:44 +0100, Amodelo wrote: > I am also not interested in testing an ugly work-around (install > unwanted A, replace it by B). My servers seem to have similar > configurations like those of Miles Fidelman. Considering that the Holy Grail of fixing #668001 for Jessie is ut

Re: If Not Systemd, then What?

2014-11-13 Thread Tanstaafl
On 11/13/2014 3:42 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Jo, 13 nov 14, 11:28:57, Tanstaafl wrote: >> >> Yes, apparently because someone actively sabotaged any possibility of >> OpenRC being considered by giving improper bad information on how to use >> it... > > OpenRC was "represented" by its Maintain

Re: moving LVM logical volumes to new disks

2014-11-13 Thread Patrick Ouellette
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 08:52:58PM +0100, lee wrote: > > Fortunately, downtime isn't an issue. I also have a 32GB USB stick, and > all the LVs are smaller than 32GB. > > Since there seems to be some agreement that it would be best to use > pvmove, I think I could, one after the other, move all t

Re: systemd mpd trouble

2014-11-13 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 13 nov 14, 18:37:00, sp113438 wrote: > Hello, > > Systemd is starting fast, but shutdown takes ages. > It seems unable to stop service mpd (Music Player Daemon). Does the shutdown work fine if you stop mpd in advance? Do you have remote shares (especially Samba)? Could you post the exact

Re: If Not Systemd, then What?

2014-11-13 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 13 nov 14, 11:28:57, Tanstaafl wrote: > > Yes, apparently because someone actively sabotaged any possibility of > OpenRC being considered by giving improper bad information on how to use > it... OpenRC was "represented" by its Maintainer in the init debate (Thomas Goirand). Are you saying

Re: Installing an Alternative Init?

2014-11-13 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 13 nov 14, 10:49:44, Amodelo wrote: > > I am also not interested in testing an ugly work-around (install > unwanted A, replace it by B). My servers seem to have similar > configurations like those of Miles Fidelman. > > I definitely want a straight upgrade path with a minimum of problems

Qsynth working, Fluidsynth not

2014-11-13 Thread Francesco Ariis
Hello Debian users, I recently bought a MIDI keyboard and tried it with qsynth (which is the Qt interface to fluidsynth); everything works (midi events are recognised, sound comes out, using alsa_seq). Now to the problem; when I try to use fluidsynth instead of qsynth, MIDI events are recogni

Re: moving LVM logical volumes to new disks

2014-11-13 Thread lee
Don Armstrong writes: > On Wed, 12 Nov 2014, lee wrote: >> what's the best way to move existing logical volumes or a whole volume >> group to new disks? >> >> The target disks cannot be installed at the same time as the source >> disks. I will have to make some sort of copy over the network to

Re: moving LVM logical volumes to new disks

2014-11-13 Thread lee
Igor Cicimov writes: > On 13/11/2014 8:27 AM, "lee" wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> what's the best way to move existing logical volumes or a whole volume >> group to new disks? >> >> The target disks cannot be installed at the same time as the source >> disks. I will have to make some sort of copy over

Re: moving LVM logical volumes to new disks

2014-11-13 Thread lee
"Karl E. Jorgensen" writes: > Hi > > On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 10:09:43PM +0100, lee wrote: >> Hi, >> >> what's the best way to move existing logical volumes or a whole volume >> group to new disks? >> >> The target disks cannot be installed at the same time as the source >> disks. I will have t

Re: Ctrl-Alt-F12 to show Kernel messages

2014-11-13 Thread Ron
On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 11:45:10 + Darac Marjal wrote: > > In a distribution I used long ago (Slackware 96 ? Mandrake 6.0 ?) > > Ctrl-Alt-F12 would take you to a screen displaying in real time the kernel > > messages. > > Is that possible in Debian ? > If you're using rsyslog, add the foll

Re: advice on choosing an AMD chipset

2014-11-13 Thread Michael Fothergill
>>> For business desktop use, I prefer onboard graphics for reliability. >> Also, most add-in cards require fans for cooling which gives you another >> point of failure while adding to the noise. Power requirements are higher >> when you want the graphics performance of the faster graphics cards. >

Re: Possible comprommission, what to do ?

2014-11-13 Thread Simon Brandmair
On 11/13/2014 10:00 AM, Erwan David wrote: [...] > However, I'd prefer be sure my server was not compromised, and at the > lower possibe cost (in time and work). Is there a way to check the > packages/installed files from outside sources (I may boot a fresh live > system in order to have clean util

Re: Ctrl-Alt-F12 to show Kernel messages

2014-11-13 Thread Simon Brandmair
On 11/13/2014 11:50 AM, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: > In a distribution I used long ago (Slackware 96 ? Mandrake 6.0 ?) > Ctrl-Alt-F12 would take you to a screen displaying in real time the kernel > messages. > > Is that possible in Debian ? Yes. With syslog-ng, you can use "destination d_con

systemd mpd trouble

2014-11-13 Thread sp113438
Hello, Systemd is starting fast, but shutdown takes ages. It seems unable to stop service mpd (Music Player Daemon). As I do startup exactly as many times as shutdown, this is a problem. Anyone has the same problem? Running Jessie amd64. Thanks! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ.

Re: what's the difference btw. libelf1 and libelfg0?

2014-11-13 Thread Laurent Bigonville
Le Wed, 12 Nov 2014 17:09:05 -0800, Don Armstrong a écrit : > On Thu, 13 Nov 2014, Christian Groessler wrote: > > Ignoring the freebsd version, I'm wondering what's the difference > > between libelf1 and libelfg0. They seem to be built from the same > > sources, 'apt-get source' retrieves the sam

Re: If Not Systemd, then What?

2014-11-13 Thread Tanstaafl
On 11/13/2014 10:53 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Saturday 08 November 2014 15:31:02 Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote: >> Andrei Popescu: >>> Quote from above, with added emphasis: >> >> Upstart was the only *real* contender to systemd *at the time* of >> >> the evaluation for the Technical Committ

Re: If Not Systemd, then What?

2014-11-13 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 08 November 2014 15:31:02 Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote: > Andrei Popescu: > > Upstart was the only realcontender to systemd at the time of the > > > > evaluation by the Technical Committee, but it has or is being > > replaced by systemd everywhere. > > Tanstaafl: > > And why was OP

Re: proofing searchable pdf files

2014-11-13 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
There's a newer package gimagereader — graphical GTK+ front-end to tesseract-ocr https://packages.debian.org/unstable/main/gimagereader . Can that help? -- Regards, jvp. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas.

Re: Possible comprommission, what to do ?

2014-11-13 Thread John Hasler
Erwan David writes: > I was very careful not to give any login name (even less passwords), > but she did not even hint at asking them, so the phone call might have > been legit. It still might be a good idea to call the police (not using any number she gave) and confirm. If she was spearfishing y

Re: Re: VPN routing on Sid

2014-11-13 Thread Luis Finotti
> On 13/11/14 11:10, Luis Finotti wrote: > > Ah, that worked! Could you explain the "192.168.29.0/24" syntax > > though? I'm having a hard time finding what it means. (Is it a range > > 0 to 24?) > > The "/24" means that only the first 24 bits of the address are > significant for matching purpos

Re: INTEL HD Graphics

2014-11-13 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 12 November 2014 13:31:27 Man_Without_Clue wrote: > On 11/12/2014 08:32 PM, Chris Bannister wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 08:04:02PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > >> On 11 November 2014 17:30, Morten Bo Johansen wrote: > >>> On 2014-11-11 Lisi Reisz wrote: > Intel runs fine on

Re: INTEL HD Graphics

2014-11-13 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Wednesday 12 November 2014 11:32:42 Chris Bannister wrote: > On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 08:04:02PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On 11 November 2014 17:30, Morten Bo Johansen wrote: > > > On 2014-11-11 Lisi Reisz wrote: > > >> Intel runs fine on Wheezy, though you do need a kernel upgrade in the >

Re: Possible comprommission, what to do ?

2014-11-13 Thread Erwan David
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 03:45:06PM CET, Carl Fink said: > Confirm that your caller was really from the police. In English we refer to > a crime called "spearphishing", which involves basically tricking people > into giving away important information, often by impersonating the police. > Here in th

Re: Installing an Alternative Init?

2014-11-13 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Le jeudi, 13 novembre 2014, 09.04:50 Tanstaafl a écrit : > It should have been made mandatory that the systemd folks get this bug > fully resolved and functional *on wheezy* This is simply not how Debian works; stable is meant to stay stable. > *and* commit to maintaining this ability in jessie,

Re: Possible comprommission, what to do ?

2014-11-13 Thread Carl Fink
Confirm that your caller was really from the police. In English we refer to a crime called "spearphishing", which involves basically tricking people into giving away important information, often by impersonating the police. Here in the United States, spearphishers sometimes claim to be the FBI. --

Re: Joey Hess is out?

2014-11-13 Thread Alan E. Davis
Debian's mailing list had a sharp edge back in the 90's, the last times I inhabited them for much time. And it still does. If it means anything, Constitution or not, the Gentoo mailing list in its heyday was the epitome of civility, in comparison. A breath of fresh air, and none of the arroganc

Re: Installing an Alternative Init?

2014-11-13 Thread Tanstaafl
On 11/12/2014 5:18 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Mi, 12 nov 14, 15:43:09, Tanstaafl wrote: >> >> Sounds good to me, but in reality, since the default *and only* init >> system for the last very many years was Sysvinit (this extremely salient >> point seems to be completely and totally lost on the

Re: what's the difference btw. libelf1 and libelfg0?

2014-11-13 Thread Christian Groessler
On 11/13/14 02:09, Don Armstrong wrote: On Thu, 13 Nov 2014, Christian Groessler wrote: Ignoring the freebsd version, I'm wondering what's the difference between libelf1 and libelfg0. They seem to be built from the same sources, 'apt-get source' retrieves the same files. Two different sonames.

Re: Installing Chrome

2014-11-13 Thread Ron
On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 13:01:50 + Tony van der Hoff wrote: > I had to change the file name: > dpkg -i google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb Well, I did not know the name of your .deb file, hence the parenthesis ! Cheers, Ron. -- Good taste, the last and vilest of human supersti

Re: VPN routing on Sid

2014-11-13 Thread Martin Read
On 13/11/14 11:10, Luis Finotti wrote: Ah, that worked! Could you explain the "192.168.29.0/24" syntax though? I'm having a hard time finding what it means. (Is it a range 0 to 24?) The "/24" means that only the first 24 bits of the address are significant for matching purposes. So, 192.168

Re: Possible comprommission, what to do ?

2014-11-13 Thread Marty
On 11/13/2014 03:57 AM, Erwan David wrote: I just got a call form police, that they have arrested a pirate who "tried" to connect to one of my (debian) servers. They tell me he is gifted, but since the policewoman I had one phone mixes server, web site and email address, it may not be com

Re: Installing Chrome

2014-11-13 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 13/11/14 12:33, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: > On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 12:16:32 + > Tony van der Hoff wrote: > >> I want to try Chrome, in order to view mpeg-dash streams without Flash. >> >> I don't think there's a Debian package for it, given its origin ;) >> So, I've downloaded the amd64 .de

Re: Installing an Alternative Init?

2014-11-13 Thread Miles Fidelman
Amodelo wrote: Am 12.11.2014 um 18:14 schrieb Miles Fidelman : Yes, I am unhappy with the situation, as apparently are a not-insignificant number of other Debian users. One could hope that feedback might have some effect in influencing future decisions. That it has not, or if anything rigidi

Re: Installing an Alternative Init?

2014-11-13 Thread Miles Fidelman
Amodelo wrote: Am 11.11.2014 um 19:07 schrieb Didier 'OdyX' Raboud : Le mardi, 11 novembre 2014, 12.34:10 Miles Fidelman a écrit : (…) I'm not particularly interested in testing how well install/replace systemd and its dependencies works in our environment (both hypervisor level or guest debo

Re: Installing Chrome

2014-11-13 Thread Michael Fothergill
> Could someone kindly either give me the incantation to install this >> .deb, or point me at a concise resource containing the basic package >> management information. >> > > As far as I remember, I downloaded the key (save the file from the > browser) to your download directory. > > Then run the

Re: Joey Hess is out?

2014-11-13 Thread Miles Fidelman
Marty wrote: On 11/12/2014 07:48 PM, Gary Roach wrote: On 11/08/2014 04:19 AM, Keith Peter wrote: Hello Bret and All Mr Hess was writing to the 1000+ Debian developers so the subject line *may* have made instant sense to them, but I take the wider point. We had better explain the 'so long and

Re: Installing Chrome

2014-11-13 Thread Ron
On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 12:16:32 + Tony van der Hoff wrote: > I want to try Chrome, in order to view mpeg-dash streams without Flash. > > I don't think there's a Debian package for it, given its origin ;) > So, I've downloaded the amd64 .deb from the Google site, but can't find > any instruction

Re: Installing Chrome

2014-11-13 Thread Michael Fothergill
Dear Tony, > > Could someone kindly either give me the incantation to install this > .deb, or point me at a concise resource containing the basic package > management information. > As far as I remember, I downloaded the key (save the file from the browser) to your download directory. Then run t

Installing Chrome

2014-11-13 Thread Tony van der Hoff
I want to try Chrome, in order to view mpeg-dash streams without Flash. I don't think there's a Debian package for it, given its origin ;) So, I've downloaded the amd64 .deb from the Google site, but can't find any instructions there on what to do next. My familiarity with the Debian package manag

Re: Possible comprommission, what to do ?

2014-11-13 Thread tv.deb...@googlemail.com
On 13/11/2014 11:57, Erwan David wrote: I just got a call form police, that they have arrested a pirate who "tried" to connect to one of my (debian) servers. They tell me he is gifted, but since the policewoman I had one phone mixes server, web site and email address, it may not be comple

Re: Installing Android development software

2014-11-13 Thread Steve Greig
I downloaded the ADT Bundle for Linux 64-bit from this page: https://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html I installed it and then I did manage to navigate to the eclipse file using Dolphin and start eclipse by clicking on it. I just can't seem to find it any more. I just tried your suggestion and

Re: Ctrl-Alt-F12 to show Kernel messages

2014-11-13 Thread Darac Marjal
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 07:47:44AM -0300, Renaud OLGIATI wrote: > In a distribution I used long ago (Slackware 96 ? Mandrake 6.0 ?) > Ctrl-Alt-F12 would take you to a screen displaying in real time the kernel > messages. > > Is that possible in Debian ? If you're using journald, amend /etc/sy

Re: VPN routing on Sid

2014-11-13 Thread Luis Finotti
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 3:43 AM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Luis Finotti a écrit : >> >> When I first started using the VPN service, I could not SSH to my >> desktop from outside the network anymore. After a lot of googling, I >> found out a solution (https://forums.openvpn.net/topic7163-15.htm): >

Ctrl-Alt-F12 to show Kernel messages

2014-11-13 Thread Ron
In a distribution I used long ago (Slackware 96 ? Mandrake 6.0 ?) Ctrl-Alt-F12 would take you to a screen displaying in real time the kernel messages. Is that possible in Debian ? Cheers, Ron. -- Boob's Law: You alwa

Re: Installing an Alternative Init?

2014-11-13 Thread Amodelo
Am 12.11.2014 um 18:14 schrieb Miles Fidelman : > > Yes, I am unhappy with the situation, as apparently are a not-insignificant > number of other Debian users. One could hope that feedback might have some > effect in influencing future decisions. That it has not, or if anything > rigidified t

Re: Installing an Alternative Init?

2014-11-13 Thread Amodelo
Am 11.11.2014 um 19:07 schrieb Didier 'OdyX' Raboud : > Le mardi, 11 novembre 2014, 12.34:10 Miles Fidelman a écrit : > >> (…) >> I'm not particularly interested in testing how well install/replace >> systemd and its dependencies works in our environment (both hypervisor >> level or guest deboot

Re: Nvidia MCP51 Ethernet controller, link is not ready

2014-11-13 Thread Achim Spreen
Hans wrote: Hi Achim! Is the device not available at all or dop you hvae some other device like "eth1" (instead of eth0)? Best Hans Hello Hans. With 'ifconfig eth0' i can see the card, and with 'ifconfig eth0 up' i can bring eth0 up, but it's still not reachable and the output from 'ethtool

Re: INTEL HD Graphics

2014-11-13 Thread Man_Without_Clue
On 11/12/2014 05:05 AM, Nate Bargmann wrote: I received an answer on the intel-gfx mailing list: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/intel-gfx/2014-November/055165.html As instructed, I enabled SNA acceleration in my custom xorg.conf and installed the intel driver from experimental. ZaphodH

Re: Unable to start kvm virtual machines after re-install of "testing"

2014-11-13 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
Hi On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 11:31:30AM +0200, Jarle Aase wrote: > Hi, > > After a fresh reinstall of Debian "testing" today, I am unable to start > my virtual machines. I lost the configuration during the reinstall, but > have the disk images. I'm not sure if it is a bug or something wrong on > my

Re: Possible comprommission, what to do ?

2014-11-13 Thread Erwan David
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 10:18:23AM CET, Renaud OLGIATI said: > On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 09:57:48 +0100 > Erwan David wrote: > > > I just got a call form police, that they have arrested a > > pirate who "tried" to connect to one of my (debian) servers. They tell > > me he is gifted, but since the

Re: Possible comprommission, what to do ?

2014-11-13 Thread Ron
On Thu, 13 Nov 2014 09:57:48 +0100 Erwan David wrote: > I just got a call form police, that they have arrested a > pirate who "tried" to connect to one of my (debian) servers. They tell > me he is gifted, but since the policewoman I had one phone mixes > server, web site and email address,

Re: VPN routing on Sid

2014-11-13 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Luis Finotti a écrit : > > When I first started using the VPN service, I could not SSH to my > desktop from outside the network anymore. After a lot of googling, I > found out a solution (https://forums.openvpn.net/topic7163-15.htm): > I've added the following script to /etc/network/if-up.d: > >

Possible comprommission, what to do ?

2014-11-13 Thread Erwan David
I just got a call form police, that they have arrested a pirate who "tried" to connect to one of my (debian) servers. They tell me he is gifted, but since the policewoman I had one phone mixes server, web site and email address, it may not be completely accurate. However, I'd prefer be sur

Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

2014-11-13 Thread Klistvud
Dne, 12. 11. 2014 16:22:00 je Martin Read napisal(a): On 12/11/14 14:20, Klistvud wrote: As a side note: once systemd is put in place, such problem-less and swift migration between desktop environments is just one of the many "Good Things Linux" going down the drain... Eh? I'm running XFCE *ju

Re: forks, derivatives, other distros - what are you thinking/doing

2014-11-13 Thread Lorenzo Sutton
On 05/11/2014 17:02, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: Miles, Le mercredi, 5 novembre 2014, 09.32:57 Miles Fidelman a écrit : [If you're happy with systemd, and not considering a change - please stay out of this discussion. If you object to the very nature of the discussion, hit your delete key and

Re: Gigabyte BRIX with (Debian) Linux

2014-11-13 Thread Catalin Soare
On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 10:34 PM, Dan Ritter wrote: > On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 05:19:43PM +0200, Catalin Soare wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > I am thinking of buying one of these devices, and I was wondering if > > someone on the list has been successful in installing Debian on any BRIX > > devic

Re: Installing an Alternative Init?

2014-11-13 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 04:54:46PM -0800, Jyri J. Virkki wrote: > Clearly something is wrong with the procedures if it is possible for > only four people to so drastically change the course of debian, > against the wishes of so many. You're able to count the 4; you aren't able to count "the many".