Re: "Lennart Poettering Linux" -- some real eye openers here ... don't be blindsided!

2014-11-09 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 10/11/2014 6:01 PM, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > Andrew McGlashan: >> Forwarding a message "as is" from another mailing list ... very relevant >> to Linux and the systemd dilemma. >> > No, it is not. > > Sorry, but requiring an up-to-date kernel (or

Re: "Lennart Poettering Linux" -- some real eye openers here ... don't be blindsided!

2014-11-09 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Andrew McGlashan: > Forwarding a message "as is" from another mailing list ... very relevant > to Linux and the systemd dilemma. > No, it is not. Sorry, but requiring an up-to-date kernel (or any other infrastructure you rely on) instead of maintaining workarounds and compatibility code in p

Installing an Alternative Init?

2014-11-09 Thread Patrick Bartek
Is it possible, systemd dependency issues aside, to do a clean install of Jessie with an init other than systemd without first installing systemd? And, if so, how would one do it? Everything I've read so far talks about "replacing" systemd on systems already installed with it, but not about not i

"Lennart Poettering Linux" -- some real eye openers here ... don't be blindsided!

2014-11-09 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Forwarding a message "as is" from another mailing list ... very relevant to Linux and the systemd dilemma. begin forward... http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2014-May/019657.html On Fri, 30.05.14 04:32, Michael Biebl (mbiebl at gmail.com) wrote: > > 2014-05-30 4:26 GMT+02:00

Re: network card bridging failing on wheezy

2014-11-09 Thread Christian Seiler
Am 10.11.2014 01:33, schrieb Gary Dale: > On 09/11/14 03:30 PM, Christian Seiler wrote: >> Could you post the contents of your /etc/default/networking? >> Specifically, it should have either no explicit settings (everything >> commented out) or the following settings (which are default): >> >> CONF

Re: Joey Hess is out?

2014-11-09 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Carl writes: > Really? I may have unthinkingly assumed everyone reading was a native > speaker is American English. In my dialect, "out" means "openly > homosexual" far more often than "quitting". The joke had nothing to do > with Mr. Hess and everything to do with mocking my own first reading >

Re: FW: Time for compassion and the Init GR

2014-11-09 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Jerry Stuckle writes: > > The tone is subtle, and not necessarily something a native English > speaker would see. But I see it there. Are you seriously claiming that a non-native speaker would be likelier to pick up on subtle, and quite possibly subconcious, cues than a native speaker? -- To

WD Passport 2T hard drive formating question.

2014-11-09 Thread Juan R. de Silva
Hi folks, I've purchased a new WD Passport 2T USB hard drive, which, no doubts,came formated NTFS. I've used GParted to quickly format the drive to Ext4 and results surprised me quite a bit (all results as reported by GParted): File system NTFS Total capacity - 1.82

Re: Has the systemd fork already happened?

2014-11-09 Thread golinux
On Sun, 11/9/14, Hendrik Boom wrote: Subject: Re: Has the systemd fork already happened? To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Sunday, November 9, 2014, 9:10 PM [snip] From what I've heard since I made the original post, it turns out to be a lot closer to Debian than I originally thoug

Re: Has the systemd fork already happened?

2014-11-09 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, 09 Nov 2014 20:27:56 +, Brian wrote: > On Sun 09 Nov 2014 at 18:19:21 +, Hendrik Boom wrote: > >> On Sun, 09 Nov 2014 14:40:47 +, Brian wrote: >> >> > On Sun 09 Nov 2014 at 14:04:59 +, Hendrik Boom wrote: >> > >> >> I just encountered a link about refracta. >> >> >> >>

Re: Has the systemd fork already happened?

2014-11-09 Thread golinux
On Sun, 11/9/14, Jonathan Dowland wrote: Subject: Re: Has the systemd fork already happened? To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Sunday, November 9, 2014, 4:03 PM On Sun, Nov 09, 2014 at 03:20:30PM -0600, golinux wrote: Please do little research before opening mouth and inserting foot.

Re: useradd segmentation fault

2014-11-09 Thread Joris Bolsens
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/09/2014 12:55 PM, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Sun, 09 Nov 2014, Joris Bolsens wrote: >> Where do i find the object file for libnss-ldap? I tried running >> nm -a on pretty much every file I could find with libnss-ldap in >> the name and it said

Re: Joey Hess is out?

2014-11-09 Thread Miles Fidelman
shawn wilson wrote: On Nov 8, 2014 12:24 PM, "Miles Fidelman" > wrote: > > Mart van de Wege wrote: >> >> Slavko mailto:li...@slavino.sk>> writes: >> >>> Ahoj, >>> >>> Dňa Sat, 08 Nov 2014 16:03:46 +0100 Mart van de Wege >>> mailto:mvdw...@gmail.com>> napísal:

FW: Release Team Sprint Results

2014-11-09 Thread Andrei POPESCU
For those not subscribed to d-d-a. - Forwarded message from Jonathan Wiltshire - Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2014 11:52:31 + From: Jonathan Wiltshire To: debian-devel-annou...@lists.debian.org Cc: debian-rele...@lists.debian.org Subject: Release Team Sprint Results User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (201

Re: network card bridging failing on wheezy

2014-11-09 Thread Gary Dale
On 09/11/14 03:30 PM, Christian Seiler wrote: Am 09.11.2014 21:13, schrieb Gary Dale: You're right. Here's my default.xml (I only changed the addresses): root@TheLibrarian:/home/garydale# cat /etc/libvirt/qemu/networks/default.xml default Howeve

Re: mythtv fails to install

2014-11-09 Thread Rodney D. Myers
On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 02:17:49 +1300 Chris Bannister wrote: > On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 06:46:04PM -0500, Rodney D. Myers wrote: > > attempting to get mythtv-common installed, but i keep getting this > > error in the shell; > > > > sudo apt-get install -f mythtv-common > > Reading package lists...

Re: mythtv fails to install

2014-11-09 Thread Rodney D. Myers
On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 02:17:49 +1300 Chris Bannister wrote: > On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 06:46:04PM -0500, Rodney D. Myers wrote: > > attempting to get mythtv-common installed, but i keep getting this > > error in the shell; > > > > sudo apt-get install -f mythtv-common > > Reading package lists...

Re: mythtv fails to install

2014-11-09 Thread Rodney D. Myers
On Sun, 9 Nov 2014 07:38:02 -0500 Dan Ritter wrote: > On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 06:46:04PM -0500, Rodney D. Myers wrote: > > attempting to get mythtv-common installed, but i keep getting this > > error in the shell; > > > > sudo apt-get install -f mythtv-common > > Reading package lists... Done

Re: Set openbox to be mate default WM

2014-11-09 Thread Alexis
David Kline writes: > My windows in mate looked terrible. I was wondering why themes weren't > changing. I thought that the windows looked kind of gnome 3ish so I > ran openbox --replace. I was surprised to find that open box was not > the default! How do I set openbox to be the default mate wind

Re: grub-pc update causes mount hang

2014-11-09 Thread Joel Roth
Joel Roth wrote: > Joel Roth wrote: > > Hi list, > > > > I've been upgrading my sid system. When grub goes > > to regenerate /boot/grub/grub.cfg, mount uses 100% CPU > > and causes these processes to hang: > > > > 10064 pts/1S 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/lib/os-probes/50mounted-tests > > /dev/sd

Re: Has the systemd fork already happened?

2014-11-09 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sun, Nov 09, 2014 at 03:20:30PM -0600, golinux wrote: > Please do little research before opening mouth and inserting foot. > There is no comparison between Refracta and bloated offerings like > Ubuntu or Mint. In fact, it is downright insulting. In case you > missed it, Refracta is a respin N

Re: grub-pc update causes mount hang

2014-11-09 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2014-11-09 22:46 +0100, Joel Roth wrote: > I've been upgrading my sid system. When grub goes > to regenerate /boot/grub/grub.cfg, mount uses 100% CPU > and causes these processes to hang: > > 10064 pts/1S 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/lib/os-probes/50mounted-tests > /dev/sda4 > 10075 pts/1R

Re: Has the systemd fork already happened?

2014-11-09 Thread golinux
On Sun, 11/9/14, Renaud OLGIATI wrote: Subject: Re: Has the systemd fork already happened? To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: dmcgarr...@optonline.net Date: Sunday, November 9, 2014, 2:58 PM On Sun, 09 Nov 2014 15:00:24 -0500 Doug wrote: > Like pointed out above: Those are my opinions

Re: grub-pc update causes mount hang

2014-11-09 Thread Joel Roth
Joel Roth wrote: > Hi list, > > I've been upgrading my sid system. When grub goes > to regenerate /boot/grub/grub.cfg, mount uses 100% CPU > and causes these processes to hang: > > 10064 pts/1S 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/lib/os-probes/50mounted-tests > /dev/sda4 > 10075 pts/1R 7:33 mou

grub-pc update causes mount hang

2014-11-09 Thread Joel Roth
Hi list, I've been upgrading my sid system. When grub goes to regenerate /boot/grub/grub.cfg, mount uses 100% CPU and causes these processes to hang: 10064 pts/1S 0:00 /bin/sh /usr/lib/os-probes/50mounted-tests /dev/sda4 10075 pts/1R 7:33 mount -o ro -t ext4 /dev/sda4 /var/lib

Re: Has the systemd fork already happened?

2014-11-09 Thread golinux
On Sun, 11/9/14, Hendrik Boom wrote: Subject: Re: Has the systemd fork already happened? To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Sunday, November 9, 2014, 12:19 PM On Sun, 09 Nov 2014 14:40:47 +, Brian wrote: On Sun, 09 Nov 2014 14:40:47 +, Brian wrote: On Sun 09 Nov 2014 at 14:0

Re: Has the systemd fork already happened?

2014-11-09 Thread golinux
On Sun, 11/9/14, Doug wrote: Subject: Re: Has the systemd fork already happened? To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Sunday, November 9, 2014, 2:00 PM I think it might be worthwhile to consider some other derivative distros: I don't mean consider them _instead_ of Refracta, I mean consi

Re: Has the systemd fork already happened?

2014-11-09 Thread Ron
On Sun, 09 Nov 2014 15:00:24 -0500 Doug wrote: > > Like pointed out above: Those are my opinions, nothing "official" from > > refracta. > I think it might be worthwhile to consider some other derivative distros: > I don't mean consider them _instead_ of Refracta, I mean consider how > they work

Re: Has the systemd fork already happened?

2014-11-09 Thread Curt
On 2014-11-09, tor...@riseup.net wrote: > >> Are there any other forks? > > Having been the long time guinea pig i can give you my opinion. > It is so close to debian that i wouldn't even call it a distribution, > rather a respin, a configured version of Debian (with a few scripts, > one being an

Re: Has the systemd fork already happened?

2014-11-09 Thread John Hasler
tornow writes: > I am not a big fan of such workarounds. It doesn't seem to make sense > to work against Debian all the time. If one doesn't want systemd, then > the solution is to leave. I mean: If you use Debian, then you use it > cause it is rock solid, aka stable. Except that many are concerne

Re: useradd segmentation fault

2014-11-09 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sun, 09 Nov 2014, Joris Bolsens wrote: > Where do i find the object file for libnss-ldap? I tried running nm -a > on pretty much every file I could find with libnss-ldap in the name > and it said it didn't recognize the file type. It should be symlinked from /lib64/libnss_ldap.so.2 or /lib/x86_

Re: useradd segmentation fault

2014-11-09 Thread Joris Bolsens
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/08/2014 03:43 PM, Don Armstrong wrote: > No, just don't send the whole core dump itself (the file called > core) to the BTS (or this mailing list). It almost certainly has > your machine ldap password in it. that makes sense, wont do that, tha

Re: Has the systemd fork already happened?

2014-11-09 Thread Brian
On Sun 09 Nov 2014 at 18:19:21 +, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Sun, 09 Nov 2014 14:40:47 +, Brian wrote: > > > On Sun 09 Nov 2014 at 14:04:59 +, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > >> I just encountered a link about refracta. > >> > >> Refracta would appear to be rather close to Debian testing.

Re: xpdf(1) doesn't read ~/.xpdfrc

2014-11-09 Thread Emanuel Berg
Brian writes: > It isn't important in the context of xpdf's > behaviour ... That's what I thought :) But you asked, and by all means it could be interesting to find out... > ... and it doesn't appear you have any of them. But > you could try 'dpkg - | grep -i xfce', for example. That gives me

Re: network card bridging failing on wheezy

2014-11-09 Thread Christian Seiler
Am 09.11.2014 21:13, schrieb Gary Dale: > You're right. Here's my default.xml (I only changed the addresses): > > root@TheLibrarian:/home/garydale# cat /etc/libvirt/qemu/networks/default.xml > >default > > > > > > > > > > However when I removed the link t

Re: Has the systemd fork already happened?

2014-11-09 Thread Doug
On 11/09/2014 11:38 AM, tor...@riseup.net wrote: Hendrik Boom wrote: I just encountered a link about refracta. Refracta would appear to be rather close to Debian testing. Its home page is http://www.ibiblio.org/refracta/ At http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=118319 it is desc

Re: network card bridging failing on wheezy

2014-11-09 Thread Gary Dale
On 09/11/14 02:34 PM, Christian Seiler wrote: Am 09.11.2014 19:48, schrieb Gary Dale: This IP seems oddly familiar... Did you recently install libvirt? Because that's the default IP for libvirt's default internal bridged network (virbr0). Normally, that shouldn't interfere with the standard brid

Re: Joey Hess is out?

2014-11-09 Thread shawn wilson
On Nov 8, 2014 12:24 PM, "Miles Fidelman" wrote: > > Mart van de Wege wrote: >> >> Slavko writes: >> >>> Ahoj, >>> >>> Dňa Sat, 08 Nov 2014 16:03:46 +0100 Mart van de Wege >>> napísal: >>> Why don't the anti-systemd people do what they've been threatening the whole time and fuck off to

Re: Joey Hess is out?

2014-11-09 Thread shawn wilson
On Nov 9, 2014 4:46 AM, "Jonathan Dowland" wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 09, 2014 at 05:38:59PM +1100, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > > What part of "we don't want systemd on any of our systems" don't you > > get? If we don't want it, we won't be testing it. > > There's still plenty of work to be done testin

Re: network card bridging failing on wheezy

2014-11-09 Thread Christian Seiler
Am 09.11.2014 19:48, schrieb Gary Dale: >> This IP seems oddly familiar... Did you recently install libvirt? >> Because that's the default IP for libvirt's default internal bridged >> network (virbr0). Normally, that shouldn't interfere with the standard >> bridge (different interface name), but ma

Re: Preset freeze and release dates - was Re: Joey Hess is out?

2014-11-09 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 09 nov 14, 03:17:59, Bret Busby wrote: > > I do not know what version number was sarge, but, from memory, > regarding Debian Linux 3 and 3.1, people complained and joked about > the long time between releases, and how at that time, it was a "It > will happen when it happens, maybe in a year

Re: network card bridging failing on wheezy

2014-11-09 Thread Gary Dale
On 09/11/14 05:09 AM, Karl E. Jorgensen wrote: Hi On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 05:57:41PM -0500, Gary Dale wrote: For some reason my network card bridging has failed after working properly for many years. My /etc/network/interfaces is: auto lo iface lo inet loopback iface eth0 inet manual auto br0

Re: Installing Android development software

2014-11-09 Thread Steve Greig
Thanks! >Only needed to setup i386 arch and ia32-libs, and a few others. I was reading about that on the link Patrick gave. It looks like it is only required for the android emulator so I thought I might leave it out initially as I can transfer the app to my android phone quite easily to test it.

Re: network card bridging failing on wheezy

2014-11-09 Thread Gary Dale
On 09/11/14 05:27 AM, Christian Seiler wrote: Am 08.11.2014 23:57, schrieb Gary Dale: For some reason my network card bridging has failed after working properly for many years. My /etc/network/interfaces is: auto lo iface lo inet loopback iface eth0 inet manual auto br0 iface br0 inet static

Re: Installing Android development software

2014-11-09 Thread Marty
On 11/09/2014 12:50 PM, Steve Greig wrote: I thought I would try and build an Android app and see that you have to download and install some software: adt-bundle-linux-x86_64-20140702.zip Before doing this (I often find installs go wrong) I was wondering if it is possible to do it using apt whi

Re: Has the systemd fork already happened?

2014-11-09 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, 09 Nov 2014 14:40:47 +, Brian wrote: > On Sun 09 Nov 2014 at 14:04:59 +, Hendrik Boom wrote: > >> I just encountered a link about refracta. >> >> Refracta would appear to be rather close to Debian testing. Its home >> page is http://www.ibiblio.org/refracta/ > > Guess what? The

Re: Mount order after systemd update

2014-11-09 Thread Martin Manns
On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 05:10:02 +0100 Laurent Bigonville wrote: > Which version of plymouth is that? Did you changed the default theme > or something? The plymouth version is plymouth_0.9.0-8. Changing the theme to "details" helped. Thank you. Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-req

Re: Installing Android development software

2014-11-09 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Steve Greig wrote: > I thought I would try and build an Android app and see that you have > to download and install some software: > adt-bundle-linux-x86_64-20140702.zip > > > Before doing this (I often find installs go wrong) I was wondering if > it is possible to

Re: xpdf(1) doesn't read ~/.xpdfrc

2014-11-09 Thread Brian
On Sun 09 Nov 2014 at 17:31:04 +0100, Emanuel Berg wrote: > Brian writes: > > > By "desktop environment" I meant GNOME, KDE etc. > > Yes, I know that GNOME and KDE are DEs but I don't > know what I use. > > The only thing process-wise I have is this > > $ ps -e | egrep -i '(gnome|kde)' >1

Installing Android development software

2014-11-09 Thread Steve Greig
I thought I would try and build an Android app and see that you have to download and install some software: adt-bundle-linux-x86_64-20140702.zip Before doing this (I often find installs go wrong) I was wondering if it is possible to do it using apt which I have had some success with. Would be v

Re: forks, derivatives, other distros - what are you thinking/doing

2014-11-09 Thread Peter Nieman
On 09/11/14 14:57, Hendrik Boom wrote: I wish all desktops had systematic, transparent, naive-user-accessible ways of identifying what packages or programs are invoked by menu items. One of the key characteristics of "desktop environments" is to conceal this and make everything look the same.

Re: Has the systemd fork already happened?

2014-11-09 Thread tor...@riseup.net
Hendrik Boom wrote: > I just encountered a link about refracta. > Refracta would appear to be rather close to Debian testing. Its home > page is http://www.ibiblio.org/refracta/ >At http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=118319 it is >described >as (for testing, without libsystemd0, i

Re: Package system in odd state

2014-11-09 Thread Joel Roth
Joel Roth wrote: > Hi List, > > I just did an apt-get upgrade with sid, and now need > some extra help to patch up the pieces :-/ Easily fixed by removing the conflicting file, see below: > $ sudo apt-get install -f > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state infor

Re: Has the systemd fork already happened?

2014-11-09 Thread Miles Fidelman
golinux wrote: On Sun, 11/9/14, Hendrik Boom wrote: Subject: Has the systemd fork already happened? To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Sunday, November 9, 2014, 8:04 AM I just encountered a link about refracta. Refracta would appear to be rather close to Debian testing. Its home

Re: [newbie] OpenVPN: {DNS, ping, ssh} work, HTTP fails

2014-11-09 Thread Mart van de Wege
Tom Roche writes: > summary: I have a routing problem on the server side of the VPN, as > diagnosed by Mart van de Wege[1]: veel dank Mart! I hope to fix that > problem using these linode instructions[2]. > No problem, I remember tearing my hair out when I ran into this in the past, at home and a

Re: xpdf(1) doesn't read ~/.xpdfrc

2014-11-09 Thread Emanuel Berg
Brian writes: > By "desktop environment" I meant GNOME, KDE etc. Yes, I know that GNOME and KDE are DEs but I don't know what I use. The only thing process-wise I have is this $ ps -e | egrep -i '(gnome|kde)' 17 ?00:00:00 kdevtmpfs which I don't think is KDE related. Do you know h

Re: xpdf(1) doesn't read ~/.xpdfrc

2014-11-09 Thread Brian
On Sun 09 Nov 2014 at 15:58:10 +0100, Emanuel Berg wrote: > Brian writes: > > > Why do you think your ~/.xpdfrc isn't read? Please > > post its contents and say which window manager or > > desktop environment it is running under. > > Right away. > > The reason I think it isn't read is that I h

Re: Has the systemd fork already happened?

2014-11-09 Thread golinux
On Sun, 11/9/14, Hendrik Boom wrote: Subject: Has the systemd fork already happened? To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Sunday, November 9, 2014, 8:04 AM I just encountered a link about refracta. Refracta would appear to be rather close to Debian testing. Its home page is http://w

Re: Ticketing Systems

2014-11-09 Thread Miles Fidelman
Jean-Marc wrote: Hi everybody, I am looking for a Ticketing System I can install using Debian packages. Something like otrs or request-tracker. Well both otrs and rt are in the Debian repo Miles Fidelman -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, ther

Re: [newbie] OpenVPN: {DNS, ping, ssh} work, HTTP fails

2014-11-09 Thread Tom Roche
summary: I have a routing problem on the server side of the VPN, as diagnosed by Mart van de Wege[1]: veel dank Mart! I hope to fix that problem using these linode instructions[2]. details: Tom Roche Sat, 08 Nov 2014 23:47:29 -0500 [3] >>> My jumpbox/server firewall is currently set to forward

Re: xpdf(1) doesn't read ~/.xpdfrc

2014-11-09 Thread Emanuel Berg
Brian writes: >> What I can see, xpdf(1) doesn't read ~/.xpdfrc >> >> I also tried with xpdf.real - /usr/bin/xpdf.real - >> though I don't know what that is (xpdf.real refers >> to xpdf(1) as well) - same result. >> >> uname -a: >> >> Linux debian 3.16-2-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.3-2 (2014-

Re: Has the systemd fork already happened?

2014-11-09 Thread Brian
On Sun 09 Nov 2014 at 14:04:59 +, Hendrik Boom wrote: > I just encountered a link about refracta. > > Refracta would appear to be rather close to Debian testing. Its home > page is http://www.ibiblio.org/refracta/ Guess what? They have forum too. I bet they are avid to answer questions suc

Ticketing Systems

2014-11-09 Thread Jean-Marc
Hi everybody, I am looking for a Ticketing System I can install using Debian packages. Something like otrs or request-tracker. Did some of you already experience one of them ? Advice / comments are welcome. Cheers, Jean-Marc P.S. my apologies if this is too noisy, I have no time yet to take

Re: Multiple desktops in lightdm? -- SOLVED

2014-11-09 Thread Brian
On Sun 09 Nov 2014 at 03:27:39 +, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 10:15:51 +, Brian wrote: > > > xdm can do it. Adapting its approach: > > > > Go to "Seat configuration" in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf. Uncomment > > "[Seat:0]" and after this line put > > > >xserver-command=/

Has the systemd fork already happened?

2014-11-09 Thread Hendrik Boom
I just encountered a link about refracta. Refracta would appear to be rather close to Debian testing. Its home page is http://www.ibiblio.org/refracta/ At http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=118319 it is described as (for testing, without libsystemd0, it's pinned). Anybody know more

Re: alsa-utils save / restore not working http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=768665

2014-11-09 Thread Joel Roth
Karl E. Jorgensen wrote: > > Where are the state of the sound card(s) saved / restored? > > I don't use alsa-utils, but based on my understanding of the FHS, I'd > expect somewhere under /var/lib/alsa-utils. > > But from reading the bug report, I'm led to believe it is > /var/lib/alsa/asound.stat

Set openbox to be mate default WM

2014-11-09 Thread David Kline
I'm sorry if there is a solution posted somewhere in the documentation. Google has spoiled me WRT to finding howtos and guides. My windows in mate looked terrible. I was wondering why themes weren't changing. I thought that the windows looked kind of gnome 3ish so I ran openbox --replace. I wa

Re: forks, derivatives, other distros - what are you thinking/doing

2014-11-09 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, 09 Nov 2014 14:22:46 +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Du, 09 nov 14, 04:05:56, Hendrik Boom wrote: >> >> I've started to have trouble mounting the NTFS partition on my machine >> from Linux. No problem doing this in Windows, of course. I used to be >> able to mount it from the file man

Re: mythtv fails to install

2014-11-09 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 06:46:04PM -0500, Rodney D. Myers wrote: > attempting to get mythtv-common installed, but i keep getting this > error in the shell; > > sudo apt-get install -f mythtv-common > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state information... D

Re: xpdf(1) doesn't read ~/.xpdfrc

2014-11-09 Thread Brian
On Sun 09 Nov 2014 at 04:29:00 +0100, Emanuel Berg wrote: > What I can see, xpdf(1) doesn't read ~/.xpdfrc > > I also tried with xpdf.real - /usr/bin/xpdf.real - > though I don't know what that is (xpdf.real refers to > xpdf(1) as well) - same result. > > uname -a: > > Linux debian 3.16-2-a

Re: mythtv fails to install

2014-11-09 Thread Dan Ritter
On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 06:46:04PM -0500, Rodney D. Myers wrote: > attempting to get mythtv-common installed, but i keep getting this > error in the shell; > > sudo apt-get install -f mythtv-common > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state information... D

SOLVED - Re: alsa-utils save / restore not working http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=768665

2014-11-09 Thread Arthur Marsh
Karl E. Jorgensen wrote on 09/11/14 20:04: Hi On Sun, Nov 09, 2014 at 06:12:32PM +1030, Arthur Marsh wrote: Pardon me, but I'm a bit frustrated on how to debug http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=768665 does /var/run get saved across reboots? I would not expect so. http://www.p

Re: [newbie] OpenVPN: {DNS, ping, ssh} work, HTTP fails

2014-11-09 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Tom Roche a écrit : > > My jumpbox/server firewall is currently set to forward everything, using > `iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 10.8.0.0/24 -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE` This rule doesn't forward anything, it just enables masquerading. IPv4 forwarding is enabled with sysctl net.ipv4.ip_forward=1.

Re: Doubt about the release-fitness of a package (gfax)

2014-11-09 Thread Brian
On Sun 09 Nov 2014 at 12:12:52 +0100, Ralph Aichinger wrote: > I just tried to install gfax (in sid), and it crashed on me just as described > in bug 651160. > > This has been reported in 2011, is tagged "help", and seems to go > nowhere. > > What is the right way to suggest that this package is

Re: forks, derivatives, other distros - what are you thinking/doing

2014-11-09 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 09 nov 14, 04:05:56, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > I've started to have trouble mounting the NTFS partition on my machine > from Linux. No problem doing this in Windows, of course. I used to be > able to mount it from the file manager after entering the root > password. Starting a month or

Doubt about the release-fitness of a package (gfax)

2014-11-09 Thread Ralph Aichinger
I just tried to install gfax (in sid), and it crashed on me just as described in bug 651160. This has been reported in 2011, is tagged "help", and seems to go nowhere. What is the right way to suggest that this package is not ready for release (I do think if I am not the only one experiencing th

Re: How to enable larger mouse pointers under X - SOLVED

2014-11-09 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 8. November 2014, 07:24:04 schrieb Joel Roth: > On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 05:58:38PM +0100, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > Am Samstag, 8. November 2014, 05:55:58 schrieb Joel Roth: > > > On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 12:15:09PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > > > Hi. > > > > > > > > On Fri, 7 Nov 2014

Re: [newbie] OpenVPN: {DNS, ping, ssh} work, HTTP fails

2014-11-09 Thread Mart van de Wege
Tom Roche writes: > > * `ifconfig` shows a new entry=`tun0`, which looks correct > * I can `ping` the server using either its real IP# or `10.8.0.1` > * I can `ssh` to the server using either its real IP# or `10.8.0.1` > * `nslookup www.whatismyip.com` gives correct results > This tells me that

Re: How *not* to concatenate my domain name?

2014-11-09 Thread Joe
On Sun, 9 Nov 2014 04:32:22 + (UTC) Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Sat, 08 Nov 2014 20:05:05 +, Joe wrote: > > > On Sat, 8 Nov 2014 18:49:50 + (UTC) > > Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > >> When I do a web search from my laptop, connected via wifi to my > >> server and then too the rest of the w

Re: Joey Hess is out?

2014-11-09 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 08:52:32PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > That the moaners have their way and have driven out a reallly good developer > for daring to disagree with them. Unless he says otherwise, I do not think it is fait to attribute Joey's leaving to the moaners. The most likely explanation

Re: network card bridging failing on wheezy

2014-11-09 Thread Christian Seiler
Am 08.11.2014 23:57, schrieb Gary Dale: > For some reason my network card bridging has failed after working > properly for many years. > > My /etc/network/interfaces is: > > auto lo > iface lo inet loopback > iface eth0 inet manual > auto br0 > iface br0 inet static > address 192.168.1.

Re: network card bridging failing on wheezy

2014-11-09 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
Hi On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 05:57:41PM -0500, Gary Dale wrote: > For some reason my network card bridging has failed after working > properly for many years. > > My /etc/network/interfaces is: > > auto lo > iface lo inet loopback > iface eth0 inet manual > auto br0 > iface br0 inet static >

Re: Problems with greylistd and exim and gmail

2014-11-09 Thread Joe
On Sun, 09 Nov 2014 18:07:02 +1100 Andrew McGlashan wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On 2/11/2014 8:24 PM, Virgo Pärna wrote: > > Ok problem is solved. I did have invalid lines in file: like > > that 209.85.128/17 line. And exim stops processing file, if it > >

Re: alsa-utils save / restore not working http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=768665

2014-11-09 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
Hi On Sun, Nov 09, 2014 at 06:12:32PM +1030, Arthur Marsh wrote: > Pardon me, but I'm a bit frustrated on how to debug > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=768665 > > does /var/run get saved across reboots? I would not expect so. http://www.pathname.com/fhs/2.2/fhs-5.13.html > Wh

Re: Joey Hess is out?

2014-11-09 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sun, Nov 09, 2014 at 05:38:59PM +1100, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > What part of "we don't want systemd on any of our systems" don't you > get? If we don't want it, we won't be testing it. There's still plenty of work to be done testing upgrade paths for sysvinit; improving systemd-shim; patching

Re: How to enable larger mouse pointers under X

2014-11-09 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 08 Nov 2014, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 22:21:27 -1000 > Joel Roth wrote: > > > Hi list, > > > > I need larger mouse pointers. > > > > I'm running sid, using i3 and icewm as window managers. > > AIUI cursor images are set through X, and do not belong > > to the window manager

Package system in odd state

2014-11-09 Thread Joel Roth
Hi List, I just did an apt-get upgrade with sid, and now need some extra help to patch up the pieces :-/ When I try to install something, I get a conflict that apt-get install -f doesn't handle. Can anyone suggest how to resolve this? Kind regards, Joel git:master ~ $ sudo apt-get install -f