alsa-utils save / restore not working http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=768665

2014-11-08 Thread Arthur Marsh
Pardon me, but I'm a bit frustrated on how to debug http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=768665 does /var/run get saved across reboots? Where are the state of the sound card(s) saved / restored? How can one increase debugging to see whether it is happening or not? What determines

Re: Problems with greylistd and exim and gmail

2014-11-08 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2/11/2014 8:24 PM, Virgo Pärna wrote: > Ok problem is solved. I did have invalid lines in file: like that > 209.85.128/17 line. And exim stops processing file, if it meets invalid > host line. I guess, that it was just coincidence, that it st

Re: Joey Hess is out?

2014-11-08 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 9/11/2014 2:03 AM, Mart van de Wege wrote: > Andrew McGlashan writes: > >> On 8/11/2014 7:51 PM, Mart van de Wege wrote: >>> The fact that the Constitution is being used to ram a GR down the >>> developers' throats two weeks before Jessie freeze

Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

2014-11-08 Thread golinux
On Sat, 11/8/14, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 13:16:45 -0500, golinux wrote: On Tue, 10/28/14, lee wrote: Subject: Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this... To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2014, 2:54 PM I am considering Funtoo. I would r

Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this...

2014-11-08 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 13:16:45 -0500, golinux wrote: > On Tue, 10/28/14, lee wrote: > > Subject: Re: Perfect Jessie is something like this... > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2014, 2:54 > PM > > >> I am considering Funtoo. >> >> >> I would rather stay free of

Re: Joey Hess is out?

2014-11-08 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, 08 Nov 2014 16:16:38 -0600, John Hasler wrote: > Lisi writes: >> That didn't even cross my mind. American? Or just your circle? > > His circle. > >> Would the Tea Party concur? > > That meaning of "out" being at the top of the mind is more a San > Francisco sort of thing. Possibly a

Re: [newbie] OpenVPN: {DNS, ping, ssh} work, HTTP fails

2014-11-08 Thread Tom Roche
for completeness, added server firewall settings below: Tom Roche Sat, 08 Nov 2014 21:07:03 -0500 https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/11/msg00440.html > summary: I'm running [OpenVPN] from an LMDE [client through a Debian > jumpbox/server]. After I [start the server, start the client] mos

Re: How *not* to concatenate my domain name?

2014-11-08 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, 08 Nov 2014 20:05:05 +, Joe wrote: > On Sat, 8 Nov 2014 18:49:50 + (UTC) > Hendrik Boom wrote: > >> When I do a web search from my laptop, connected via wifi to my server >> and then too the rest of the world, if it for any reason fails to find, >> say, aspidistraonion.com, it e

Re: Joey Hess is out?

2014-11-08 Thread Gary Roach
On 11/08/2014 06:01 PM, golinux wrote: Subject: Re: Joey Hess is out? To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Friday, November 7, 2014, 7:49 PM Anyone else read the subject line and think, "Why would I care that Joey is gay?" Did you actually RE

Re: forks, derivatives, other distros - what are you thinking/doing

2014-11-08 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Wed, 05 Nov 2014 09:32:57 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: > If you're unhappy with systemd (and it's associated ecosystem), and/or > with the directions that it's taking Debian (and/or large portions of > the Linux ecosystem): I don't actually know how unhappy I am with systemd. I do know it se

Re: Multiple desktops in lightdm? -- SOLVED

2014-11-08 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 10:15:51 +, Brian wrote: > On Thu 06 Nov 2014 at 11:14:58 +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > >> On Jo, 06 nov 14, 03:58:13, Hendrik Boom wrote: >> > >> > I want to be able to log on multiple times, simultaneously, to the >> > same machine, with the same physical keyboard and

xpdf(1) doesn't read ~/.xpdfrc

2014-11-08 Thread Emanuel Berg
What I can see, xpdf(1) doesn't read ~/.xpdfrc I also tried with xpdf.real - /usr/bin/xpdf.real - though I don't know what that is (xpdf.real refers to xpdf(1) as well) - same result. uname -a: Linux debian 3.16-2-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.3-2 (2014-09-20) x86_64 GNU/Linux xpdf -v:

Re: Joey Hess is out?

2014-11-08 Thread golinux
Subject: Re: Joey Hess is out? To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Friday, November 7, 2014, 7:49 PM Anyone else read the subject line and think, "Why would I care that Joey is gay?" Did you actually READ Joey's post. Those were his very own

[newbie] OpenVPN: {DNS, ping, ssh} work, HTTP fails

2014-11-08 Thread Tom Roche
summary: I'm running an SSL VPN from an LMDE host through a Debian jumpbox. After I [start the server, start the client] most IP-based applications seem to work from the client, but web browsing fails: e.g., client's Firefox cannot connect to http://www.whatismyip.com/ . How to fix or debug? d

Re: Joey Hess is out?

2014-11-08 Thread Gary Roach
On 11/07/2014 06:20 PM, golinux wrote: On Fri, 11/7/14, Carl Fink wrote: Subject: Re: Joey Hess is out? To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Friday, November 7, 2014, 7:49 PM Anyone else read the subject line and think, "Why would I care that Joey is gay?" -

Re: Joey Hess is out?

2014-11-08 Thread Gary Roach
On 11/07/2014 06:20 PM, golinux wrote: On Fri, 11/7/14, Carl Fink wrote: Subject: Re: Joey Hess is out? To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Friday, November 7, 2014, 7:49 PM Anyone else read the subject line and think, "Why would I care that Joey is gay?" -

mythtv fails to install

2014-11-08 Thread Rodney D. Myers
attempting to get mythtv-common installed, but i keep getting this error in the shell; sudo apt-get install -f mythtv-common Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following extra packages will be installed: mythtv-doc The following

Re: useradd segmentation fault

2014-11-08 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sat, 08 Nov 2014, Joris Bolsens wrote: > Not sure what you mean by this, don't post the full output of the > command? No, just don't send the whole core dump itself (the file called core) to the BTS (or this mailing list). It almost certainly has your machine ldap password in it. On Sat, 08 No

Re: useradd segmentation fault

2014-11-08 Thread Joris Bolsens
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/08/2014 12:16 PM, Don Armstrong wrote: > apt-get build-dep libnss-ldap; DEB_BUILD_OPTS="nostrip,noopt" > apt-get source -b libnss-ldap; > > will give you those symbols. > > Then you can rerun /usr/sbin/useradd foo; and re-analyze the > cored

Re: useradd segmentation fault

2014-11-08 Thread Joris Bolsens
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/08/2014 12:16 PM, Don Armstrong wrote: > Please double check the bt full; output for any obvious password > strings too before posting to this mailing list. [I should have > told you to do that too, but I don't see any below, so you should > b

network card bridging failing on wheezy

2014-11-08 Thread Gary Dale
For some reason my network card bridging has failed after working properly for many years. My /etc/network/interfaces is: auto lo iface lo inet loopback iface eth0 inet manual auto br0 iface br0 inet static address 192.168.1.14 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.1.2

Re: Joey Hess is out?

2014-11-08 Thread John Hasler
Lisi writes: > That didn't even cross my mind. American? Or just your circle? His circle. > Would the Tea Party concur? That meaning of "out" being at the top of the mind is more a San Francisco sort of thing. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Slow graphics performance in Gnome 3.14

2014-11-08 Thread Michael Graham
Hi all, I've been trying to track down why games on my laptop have become unplayable in the last few months and it seems to be an issue with Gnome. In older versions of Gnome I was able to play games no problem but now the load in gnome-shell just shoots up. Switching to a simpler DM (I use blac

Re: Joey Hess is out?

2014-11-08 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 08 November 2014 21:07:50 Carl Fink wrote: > The humor (which clearly failed) Sadly, humour - and humor ;-) - travels poorly. There have been English English jokes on this list that would probably not travel even as far as Scotland. And I am hardly renowned for my outstanding wit a

Re: Joey Hess is out?

2014-11-08 Thread Carl Fink
On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 08:52:32PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > That didn't even cross my mind. American? Or just your circle? Would the > Tea Party concur? I took it to mean exactly what it did mean. That the > moaners have their way and have driven out a reallly good developer for > daring

Re: systemd rootkit signature?

2014-11-08 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 08.11.2014 um 21:16 schrieb Hans: > >> So I'm not sure if it should be reported as a bug or not. >> >> Maybe a documentation bug? > > Sorry guys, I just forgot about the bugreport. As I wrote in my earlier > message, I do not believe, that systemd has really a rootkit signature. > > I also a

Re: Joey Hess is out?

2014-11-08 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 08 November 2014 17:31:48 Keith Peter wrote: > We need to work from examples and bugs rather than from grand sweeping > statements. You may not approve of 'whiners', but you will I assume > accept (sensible, non political/contrived) bug reports? Of course. The problem is that the "whi

Re: Joey Hess is out?

2014-11-08 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 08 November 2014 17:12:39 Carl wrote: > Really? I may have unthinkingly assumed everyone reading was a native > speaker is American English. In my dialect, "out" means "openly homosexual" > far more often than "quitting". The joke had nothing to do with Mr. Hess > and everything to do w

Re: How *not* to concatenate my domain name?

2014-11-08 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, Nov 09, 2014 at 04:57:57AM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: > 2014/11/09 3:50 "Hendrik Boom" : > > > > When I do a web search from my laptop, connected via wifi to my server > > and then too the rest of the world, if it for any reason fails to find, > > say, aspidistraonion.com, it ends up giving m

Re: systemd rootkit signature?

2014-11-08 Thread Hans
> So I'm not sure if it should be reported as a bug or not. > > Maybe a documentation bug? Sorry guys, I just forgot about the bugreport. As I wrote in my earlier message, I do not believe, that systemd has really a rootkit signature. I also already mentioned, that I think, it is just a false

Re: useradd segmentation fault

2014-11-08 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sat, 08 Nov 2014, Joris Bolsens wrote: > I can't be 100% certain because I'm not sure what any of this means, > but it would seem I messed up somewhere as it shows `No Symbol Table > info available` for libnss_ldap. Awesome. It looks like it's segfaulting in libnss_ldap, which you didn't build

Re: Changes in the way tar(1) constructs directory permissions

2014-11-08 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sat, 08 Nov 2014, John Conover wrote: > and look at the ownership of the cups directory and compare it to the > ownership in /etc. In this example, you're not archiving etc/cups or etc, you're just archiving etc/cups/printers.conf, which means that tar must create etc/cups itself, and has no re

Re: How *not* to concatenate my domain name?

2014-11-08 Thread Joe
On Sat, 8 Nov 2014 18:49:50 + (UTC) Hendrik Boom wrote: > When I do a web search from my laptop, connected via wifi to my > server and then too the rest of the world, if it for any reason fails > to find, say, aspidistraonion.com, it ends up giving me the IP > number of my own server, and th

Re: useradd segmentation fault

2014-11-08 Thread Joris Bolsens
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I can't be 100% certain because I'm not sure what any of this means, but it would seem I messed up somewhere as it shows `No Symbol Table info available` for libnss_ldap. This bit also seems possibly problematic `warning: Can't read pathname for load

Re: How *not* to concatenate my domain name?

2014-11-08 Thread Joel Rees
2014/11/09 3:50 "Hendrik Boom" : > > When I do a web search from my laptop, connected via wifi to my server > and then too the rest of the world, if it for any reason fails to find, > say, aspidistraonion.com, it ends up giving me the IP number of my own > server, and thus the wrong web page. > [.

Re: Changes in the way tar(1) constructs directory permissions

2014-11-08 Thread John Conover
Don Armstrong writes: > On Sat, 08 Nov 2014, John Conover wrote: > > That's true, Don, but the issue is the ownership of the DIRECTORIES > > when installing, a directory TREE in a non root temporary directory. > > The file ownerships are, indeed, correct. The ownerships of the > > directories down

Re: useradd segmentation fault

2014-11-08 Thread Joris Bolsens
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/08/2014 11:16 AM, Don Armstrong wrote: > ulimit -c unlimited; useradd foo; gdb /usr/sbin/useradd core; bt > full; or similar. > > You'll also want to install libc6-dbg gdb; and similar. > > This will give you an idea of where the code is seg

Preset freeze and release dates - was Re: Joey Hess is out?

2014-11-08 Thread Bret Busby
On 09/11/2014, Sven Hartge wrote: > Andrew McGlashan wrote: > >> I would rather it be done right [release...], than be done by an >> otherwise /not/ necessary arbitrary date for a freeze. > > I'd like to remind you that not having a pre-set freeze date didn't go > so well in the past. Getting Sar

Re: useradd segmentation fault

2014-11-08 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sat, 08 Nov 2014, Joris Bolsens wrote: > Sorry, pretty new to linux still. put a few questions in-line. No worries. > On 11/08/2014 09:39 AM, Don Armstrong wrote: > > > Before filing a bug, please > > > > 1) Enable coredumps > Did some googling, I have to recompile the kernel for this? > th

Re: Changes in the way tar(1) constructs directory permissions

2014-11-08 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sat, 08 Nov 2014, John Conover wrote: > That's true, Don, but the issue is the ownership of the DIRECTORIES > when installing, a directory TREE in a non root temporary directory. > The file ownerships are, indeed, correct. The ownerships of the > directories down to the files are always root/roo

Re: useradd segmentation fault

2014-11-08 Thread Joris Bolsens
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Sorry, pretty new to linux still. put a few questions in-line. On 11/08/2014 09:39 AM, Don Armstrong wrote: > Before filing a bug, please > > 1) Enable coredumps Did some googling, I have to recompile the kernel for this? the one thing i did find

How *not* to concatenate my domain name?

2014-11-08 Thread Hendrik Boom
When I do a web search from my laptop, connected via wifi to my server and then too the rest of the world, if it for any reason fails to find, say, aspidistraonion.com, it ends up giving me the IP number of my own server, and thus the wrong web page. This can happen because of a temporary netw

Re: Changes in the way tar(1) constructs directory permissions

2014-11-08 Thread John Conover
Don Armstrong writes: > On Sat, 08 Nov 2014, John Conover wrote: > > There has been changes in the way a tar(1) restore to a temporary > > directory constructs directory ownerships; as login theuser, in > > ${HOME}: > > This looks like you're using tar --no-same-owner, possibly via an ENV > variab

Re: .xinit vs. .xsession summary (was: Re: How to enable larger mouse pointers under X)

2014-11-08 Thread Brian
On Sat 08 Nov 2014 at 07:16:41 -1000, Joel Roth wrote: > On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 04:17:21PM +, Brian wrote: > > On Sat 08 Nov 2014 at 06:02:00 -1000, Joel Roth wrote: > > > > > Do you have a reference about .xinitrc vs. .xsession? > > > > Lots. :). Fortunately, startx(1) has now been altered

Re: Changes in the way tar(1) constructs directory permissions

2014-11-08 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sat, 08 Nov 2014, John Conover wrote: > There has been changes in the way a tar(1) restore to a temporary > directory constructs directory ownerships; as login theuser, in > ${HOME}: This looks like you're using tar --no-same-owner, possibly via an ENV variable or something else. % fakeroot ba

Re: useradd segmentation fault

2014-11-08 Thread Don Armstrong
On Fri, 07 Nov 2014, Joris Bolsens wrote: > Ran into a bit of a strange error with useradd today, whenever i run > useradd I get a Segmentation fault. Before filing a bug, please 1) Enable coredumps 2) Get a coredump 3) Backtrace it 4) Install any missing -dbg packages which provide symbols for t

Re: Joey Hess is out?

2014-11-08 Thread Keith Peter
On 8 November 2014 16:48, Mart van de Wege wrote: > "David L. Craig" writes: > >> On 14Nov08:1603+0100, Mart van de Wege wrote: >> >>> Quite frankly, I'm disgusted. A developer with a lot of contributions is >>> chased away by the noise made by a bunch of whiners who can't even be >>> bothered to

Re: How to enable larger mouse pointers under X - SOLVED

2014-11-08 Thread Joel Roth
On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 05:58:38PM +0100, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Am Samstag, 8. November 2014, 05:55:58 schrieb Joel Roth: > > On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 12:15:09PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > > Hi. > > > > > > On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 22:21:27 -1000 > > > > > > Joel Roth wrote: > > > > Hi list, > > > >

Re: Joey Hess is out?

2014-11-08 Thread Miles Fidelman
Mart van de Wege wrote: Slavko writes: Ahoj, Dňa Sat, 08 Nov 2014 16:03:46 +0100 Mart van de Wege napísal: Why don't the anti-systemd people do what they've been threatening the whole time and fuck off to another distro or to FreeBSD? This is exact example why i stopped all my contributio

.xinit vs. .xsession summary (was: Re: How to enable larger mouse pointers under X)

2014-11-08 Thread Joel Roth
On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 04:17:21PM +, Brian wrote: > On Sat 08 Nov 2014 at 06:02:00 -1000, Joel Roth wrote: > > > Do you have a reference about .xinitrc vs. .xsession? > > Lots. :). Fortunately, startx(1) has now been altered to read: > > Note that in the Debian system, what many people tr

Re: Joey Hess is out?

2014-11-08 Thread Carl
Really? I may have unthinkingly assumed everyone reading was a native speaker is American English. In my dialect, "out" means "openly homosexual" far more often than "quitting". The joke had nothing to do with Mr. Hess and everything to do with mocking my own first reading of the subject line.

Re: How to enable larger mouse pointers under X - SOLVED

2014-11-08 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Samstag, 8. November 2014, 05:55:58 schrieb Joel Roth: > On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 12:15:09PM +0300, Reco wrote: > > Hi. > > > > On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 22:21:27 -1000 > > > > Joel Roth wrote: > > > Hi list, > > > > > > I need larger mouse pointers. > > > > > > I'm running sid, using i3 and icewm

Re: Joey Hess is out?

2014-11-08 Thread Mart van de Wege
Slavko writes: > Ahoj, > > Dňa Sat, 08 Nov 2014 16:03:46 +0100 Mart van de Wege > napísal: > >> Why don't the anti-systemd people do what they've been threatening the >> whole time and fuck off to another distro or to FreeBSD? > > This is exact example why i stopped all my contribution to Debian

Re: Joey Hess is out?

2014-11-08 Thread Mart van de Wege
"David L. Craig" writes: > On 14Nov08:1603+0100, Mart van de Wege wrote: > >> Quite frankly, I'm disgusted. A developer with a lot of contributions is >> chased away by the noise made by a bunch of whiners who can't even be >> bothered to set up a test server. >> >> And because some devs want to

gtk: Displays svg pixmaps as giant icons

2014-11-08 Thread Felix Natter
hello, there is a bug in GTK applications (nautilus, pavucontrol, probably more) where (svg?) icons are way too large in current jessie: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=765069 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=768256 It is easily reproducible by installing vim-g

Re: Joey Hess is out?

2014-11-08 Thread David L. Craig
On 14Nov08:1603+0100, Mart van de Wege wrote: > Quite frankly, I'm disgusted. A developer with a lot of contributions is > chased away by the noise made by a bunch of whiners who can't even be > bothered to set up a test server. > > And because some devs want to placate those whiners, we get inte

Re: Joey Hess is out?

2014-11-08 Thread Sven Hartge
Andrew McGlashan wrote: > I would rather it be done right [release...], than be done by an > otherwise /not/ necessary arbitrary date for a freeze. I'd like to remind you that not having a pre-set freeze date didn't go so well in the past. Getting Sarge out for example took ages, because there w

Re: How to enable larger mouse pointers under X

2014-11-08 Thread Brian
On Sat 08 Nov 2014 at 06:02:00 -1000, Joel Roth wrote: > Do you have a reference about .xinitrc vs. .xsession? Lots. :). Fortunately, startx(1) has now been altered to read: Note that in the Debian system, what many people traditionally put in the .xini‐ trc file should go in .xsession inst

Re: Joey Hess is out?

2014-11-08 Thread Slavko
Ahoj, Dňa Sat, 08 Nov 2014 16:03:46 +0100 Mart van de Wege napísal: > Why don't the anti-systemd people do what they've been threatening the > whole time and fuck off to another distro or to FreeBSD? This is exact example why i stopped all my contribution to Debian, and i will not start it agai

Re: How to enable larger mouse pointers under X

2014-11-08 Thread Joel Roth
On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 03:42:39PM +, Brian wrote: > On Fri 07 Nov 2014 at 22:21:27 -1000, Joel Roth wrote: > > > I need larger mouse pointers. > > > > I'm running sid, using i3 and icewm as window managers. > > AIUI cursor images are set through X, and do not belong > > to the window manager

Re: How to enable larger mouse pointers under X - SOLVED

2014-11-08 Thread Joel Roth
On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 12:15:09PM +0300, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 22:21:27 -1000 > Joel Roth wrote: > > > Hi list, > > > > I need larger mouse pointers. > > > > I'm running sid, using i3 and icewm as window managers. > > AIUI cursor images are set through X, and do not belong

Re: If Not Systemd, then What?

2014-11-08 Thread Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
Andrei Popescu: Upstart was the only realcontender to systemd at the time of the > evaluation by the Technical Committee, but it has or is being > replaced by systemd everywhere. Tanstaafl: And why was OPenRC not acontender? Jonathan de Boyne Pollard: Your question takes a falsehood as its

Re: If Not Systemd, then What?

2014-11-08 Thread Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
Jonathan de Boyne Pollard: Contrastingly, the people who were propounding OpenRC at the time > provided a good example of how NOT to go about doing so. Their > several mistakes are worth learning from. Tanstaafl: Not sure I understand what you are saying here... > > Are you saying that some

Re: How to enable larger mouse pointers under X

2014-11-08 Thread Brian
On Fri 07 Nov 2014 at 22:21:27 -1000, Joel Roth wrote: > I need larger mouse pointers. > > I'm running sid, using i3 and icewm as window managers. > AIUI cursor images are set through X, and do not belong > to the window manager. Sid, JWM and no xdm here. > > My first attempt was: > > % apt-ge

Re: existing alternatives

2014-11-08 Thread Miles Fidelman
Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote: Miles Fidelman: Seriously, nowhere, in all the discussions of systemd, have I seen a > significant number of people - other than those directly or > indirectly associated with systemd - stand up and say "we really, > really, need a new init system," [...] > > Ad

Re: systemd: user@9.service failed

2014-11-08 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 08.11.2014 um 15:22 schrieb Nate Bargmann: > * On 2014 08 Nov 06:52 -0600, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote: >> Nate Bargmann: >>> Comparing the two systems I see that the one with the failure has >>> 'console-kit-daemon.service' shown as "active (running)" and the one >>> without the failure sh

Re: Joey Hess is out?

2014-11-08 Thread Mart van de Wege
Andrew McGlashan writes: > On 8/11/2014 7:51 PM, Mart van de Wege wrote: >> The fact that the Constitution is being used to ram a GR down the >> developers' throats two weeks before Jessie freeze may have a teensy bit >> to do wit that? > > Maybe so, but that in itself is sad. I'm sure this woul

Re: existing alternatives

2014-11-08 Thread Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
Miles Fidelman: Seriously, nowhere, in all the discussions of systemd, have I seen a > significant number of people - other than those directly or > indirectly associated with systemd - stand up and say "we really, > really, need a new init system," [...] > > Admittedly, my focus is server-side

Re: systemd: user@9.service failed

2014-11-08 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2014 08 Nov 06:52 -0600, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote: > Nate Bargmann: > >Comparing the two systems I see that the one with the failure has > > 'console-kit-daemon.service' shown as "active (running)" and the one > > without the failure shows it as "inactive (dead)". The consolekit > > p

Re: exim4/hotmail problems since upgrade to wheezy

2014-11-08 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, SOLVED ... Short story: regenerate exim.crt and exim.key Turns out that most servers out in the world were happy with the re-use of the old exim.crt and exim.key files. These servers had problems until I created new key and cert files:

Re: INTEL HD Graphics

2014-11-08 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2014 07 Nov 20:54 -0600, Man_Without_Clue wrote: > Does anybody know if Intel HD 4600 or higher is supported by Debian or > distro? Funny you should ask. I am setting up a box with an Intel HD 4600 video controller and while it works just fine on Sid. I can display a single monitor on eithe

Re: forks, derivatives, other distros - what are you thinking/doing

2014-11-08 Thread Keith Peter
On 5 November 2014 14:32, Miles Fidelman wrote: I'm a clueless end user with two laptops, one large boat-anchor Dell i5 that is my 'typing box' and another X60 that I actually carry round. Sid gives me a fully functional desktop that runs well on an 8 year old laptop with 2Gb of ram. Amazing real

Re: systemd: user@9.service failed

2014-11-08 Thread Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
Nate Bargmann: Comparing the two systems I see that the one with the failure has > 'console-kit-daemon.service' shown as "active (running)" and the one > without the failure shows it as "inactive (dead)". The consolekit > package is installed on each system, but '/etc/systemd/system' > doesn't

Re: forks, derivatives, other distros - what are you thinking/doing

2014-11-08 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Nov 05, 2014 at 04:38:04PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Wednesday 05 November 2014 16:12:12 Jason C. Taylor wrote: > > So my opinions are Void for a laptop, desktop, notebook.  Server's are > > trickier.  Depends on your hardware and what software you need to run and > > how much time and

Re: systemd rootkit signature?

2014-11-08 Thread Joel Rees
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 8:03 PM, Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote: > Psst! No need to whisper dramatically. > Listmaster! No need to disturb the listmaster, I'm sure. The list members, maybe: *** HEY LIST!! *** THIS IS NOT EVIDENCE THAT SYSTEMD IS AN EVIL MALWARE VECTOR! That better? >

Re: Joey Hess is out?

2014-11-08 Thread Keith Peter
Hello Bret and All Mr Hess was writing to the 1000+ Debian developers so the subject line *may* have made instant sense to them, but I take the wider point. We had better explain the 'so long and thanks for all the fish' quote as well (looking at your sig) for the benefit of others. In one of the

Re: "we are Veteran UNIX Admins" is Denis Roio

2014-11-08 Thread Miles Fidelman
Jonathan de Boyne Pollard wrote: Miles Fidelman: I could be wrong, but it strikes me that the strongest voices for a > fork are coming from folks who run servers [...] You are wrong. The strongest voice is coming from Denis Roio, who is the person behind the WWW site that everyone is pointi

Re: systemd rootkit signature?

2014-11-08 Thread Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
Psst! Listmaster! This was a false positive. M. Ullrich has actually hit a genuine, and widely reported, bug in checkrootkit. Ironically, that's a false positive too. Hans Ullrich: Searching for Suckitrootkit... Warning: > /sbin/init INFECTED > > The file "/sbin/init" i

Re: "we are Veteran UNIX Admins" is Denis Roio

2014-11-08 Thread Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
Miles Fidelman: I could be wrong, but it strikes me that the strongest voices for a > fork are coming from folks who run servers [...] You are wrong. The strongest voice is coming from Denis Roio, who is the person behind the WWW site that everyone is pointing to. And as I just mentioned,

Re: useradd segmentation fault

2014-11-08 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sat, 08 Nov 2014 01:02:25 -0800 Joris Bolsens wrote: >> > > > So, chances are - you've found a bug. > > > Awesome, where/how should I report it? Install reportbug package. Invoke 'reportbug passwd'. The rest of the process will be explained to you by the reportbug. Reportbug requires

Configuring the Desktop

2014-11-08 Thread Ron
I have recently moved to Debian. InSolydX, a Debian derivative, there is a Single Click button in desktop > desktop settings > icons to activate single-click opening of a desktop file; how do I get this single-click opening of a desktop file in Debian-XFCE ? In spite of my home.desktop file re

Re: Re: Mount order after systemd update

2014-11-08 Thread Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
Martin Manns: Seriously, I doubt that any ordinary user finds this before > migration, i.e. when you do not have installed systemd, have you got > those man pages on your system? That's a failing of Debian packaging in general, not specific to systemd. Few packages have separate -doc or -gui

Re: Joey Hess is out?

2014-11-08 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 8/11/2014 7:51 PM, Mart van de Wege wrote: > The fact that the Constitution is being used to ram a GR down the > developers' throats two weeks before Jessie freeze may have a teensy bit > to do wit that? Maybe so, but that in itself is sad. I'm

Re: How to enable larger mouse pointers under X

2014-11-08 Thread Reco
Hi. On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 22:21:27 -1000 Joel Roth wrote: > Hi list, > > I need larger mouse pointers. > > I'm running sid, using i3 and icewm as window managers. > AIUI cursor images are set through X, and do not belong > to the window manager. > > My first attempt was: > > % apt-get install

Re: useradd segmentation fault

2014-11-08 Thread Joris Bolsens
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/07/2014 11:43 PM, Reco wrote: > > So, chances are - you've found a bug. > Awesome, where/how should I report it? > >> and memory info on top: >> >> KiB Mem: 2061128 total, 263680 used, 1797448 free,75180 >> buffers KiB Swap: 20

Re: Joey Hess is out?

2014-11-08 Thread Mart van de Wege
Kelly Clowers writes: > On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 3:19 PM, golinux wrote: >> Joey Hess is leaving Debian. Anybody have a context? Anything to do with >> the systemd controversy and the monolithic direction Debian is going? >> >> https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2014/11/msg00174.html >> > > I

Re: How to enable larger mouse pointers under X

2014-11-08 Thread Joel Roth
Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Am Freitag, 7. November 2014, 22:21:27 schrieb Joel Roth: > > Hi list, > > Hi Joel, > > > I need larger mouse pointers. > > > > I'm running sid, using i3 and icewm as window managers. > > AIUI cursor images are set through X, and do not belong > > to the window manage

Re: Multiple desktops in lightdm?

2014-11-08 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 07 nov 14, 15:12:04, Eric Sharkey wrote: > On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 5:34 AM, Brian wrote: > > > > Nowadays (testing/unstable) a simple 'startx' doesn't even have to hunt > > around for an unused display because it will always bring X up on the > > tty it is started from. > > A display and a

Re: How to enable larger mouse pointers under X

2014-11-08 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 7. November 2014, 22:21:27 schrieb Joel Roth: > Hi list, Hi Joel, > I need larger mouse pointers. > > I'm running sid, using i3 and icewm as window managers. > AIUI cursor images are set through X, and do not belong > to the window manager. > > My first attempt was: Wow, what a cha

exim4/hotmail problems since upgrade to wheezy

2014-11-08 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi, I have a server that was upgraded from squeeze-lts to wheezy. Since the upgrade, any mail coming from hotmail servers can no longer be delivered to the server. I see lots of errors like these in the /var/log/exim4/mainlog TLS error on connec

Changes in the way tar(1) constructs directory permissions

2014-11-08 Thread John Conover
There has been changes in the way a tar(1) restore to a temporary directory constructs directory ownerships; as login theuser, in ${HOME}: mkdir xxx xxx/yyy; touch xxx/yyy/zzz su Password: # cd / # tar cvf home/theuser/aaa.tar home/theuser/xxx home/theuser/xxx/ home/theuser/xxx/yyy/ home/th

How to enable larger mouse pointers under X

2014-11-08 Thread Joel Roth
Hi list, I need larger mouse pointers. I'm running sid, using i3 and icewm as window managers. AIUI cursor images are set through X, and do not belong to the window manager. My first attempt was: % apt-get install big-cursor Restarting X brings no change. The docs suggest commenting out "Xcurs