Re: FW: Time for compassion and the Init GR

2014-11-06 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 06 nov 14, 22:11:59, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > > Unfortunately, from the tone of the message I can almost guess whet the > result of the GR will be. I hope I'm wrong - but if I'm not, it's going > to create a rift in debian users, and could well result in a fork and/or > large numbers of peop

User/Account Suspension (Final Notice)

2014-11-06 Thread MCB
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Re: FW: Time for compassion and the Init GR

2014-11-06 Thread golinux
On Thu, 11/6/14, Andrei POPESCU wrote: Subject: FW: Time for compassion and the Init GR To: "Debian-User" Date: Thursday, November 6, 2014, 3:55 PM - Forwarded message from Sam Hartman - Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 09:58:29 + From: Sam Hartman To: debian-proj...@lists.debian.

Re: FW: Time for compassion and the Init GR

2014-11-06 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 11/6/2014 4:55 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > - Forwarded message from Sam Hartman - > > Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 09:58:29 + > From: Sam Hartman > To: debian-proj...@lists.debian.org > Cc: debian-de...@lists.debian.org > Subject: Time for compassion and the Init GR > User-Agent: Gnus/5.

Re: Debian-Live 7.6.0 usb username & password?

2014-11-06 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 11/06/2014 03:13 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Thursday 06 November 2014 22:19:17 Jimmy Johnson wrote: On 11/06/2014 11:15 AM, m...@raseone.com wrote: and I am unable to log in to the default user or root account. There is not any root password. You can switch to root with sudo -i or se

Re: Debian-Live 7.6.0 usb username & password?

2014-11-06 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 11/06/2014 02:56 PM, Joel Rees wrote: On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 7:19 AM, Jimmy Johnson <420.christian.sin...@gmail.com> wrote: On 11/06/2014 11:15 AM, m...@raseone.com wrote: Someone likes confusing usernames. :-P Hello, I am attempting to run Debian-Live 7.6.0 from a usb drive (version fou

Re: Debian-Live 7.6.0 usb username & password?

2014-11-06 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 06 November 2014 22:19:17 Jimmy Johnson wrote: > On 11/06/2014 11:15 AM, m...@raseone.com wrote: > > and I am unable to log in to the default user or root account. > > There is not any root password. You can switch to root with sudo -i or > set a password for root with sudo pas

Re: FW: Time for compassion and the Init GR

2014-11-06 Thread Reco
Hi. On Thu, 6 Nov 2014 23:55:38 +0200 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > - Forwarded message from Sam Hartman - Debian Project can use more people like him, that's for sure. Because there are different options on the issue: http://blog.bofh.it/debian/id_454 Contribution of blog's author can

Re: Debian-Live 7.6.0 usb username & password?

2014-11-06 Thread Joel Rees
On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 7:19 AM, Jimmy Johnson <420.christian.sin...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 11/06/2014 11:15 AM, m...@raseone.com wrote: Someone likes confusing usernames. :-P >> Hello, >> >> I am attempting to run Debian-Live 7.6.0 from a usb drive (version found >> here http://cdimage.debian.org

Re: Debian-Live 7.6.0 usb username & password?

2014-11-06 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 11/06/2014 11:15 AM, m...@raseone.com wrote: Hello, I am attempting to run Debian-Live 7.6.0 from a usb drive (version found here http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/bt-hybrid/) and I am unable to log in to the default user or root account. There is not any root password.

FW: Time for compassion and the Init GR

2014-11-06 Thread Andrei POPESCU
- Forwarded message from Sam Hartman - Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 09:58:29 + From: Sam Hartman To: debian-proj...@lists.debian.org Cc: debian-de...@lists.debian.org Subject: Time for compassion and the Init GR User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) Early morning, Wedn

Re: git-buildpackage vs. dpkg-buildpackage

2014-11-06 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 06 nov 14, 20:08:50, basti wrote: > Hello, > I know that this can be a bit off-topic. > When I try to build a package based on git and use > > git-buildpackage => docs are not include in deb-file. > dpkg-buildpackage => docs ARE include in deb-file. > > dh_installdocs is included in rules

Re: forks, derivatives, other distros - what are you thinking/doing

2014-11-06 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 06 nov 14, 16:34:04, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > > >The final decision for kFreeBSD ports, > >for which human resources is a concern,[...] Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Deb

Re: Rescue mode: cannot fix boot after raid1 repair

2014-11-06 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 06 Nov 2014, Ron Leach wrote: > I wanted to skip the part where the new disk was re-synced because > that's going to take some 8 hours or so Start it now; you don't have to wait for it to finish. > On 06/11/2014 16:30, Don Armstrong wrote: > >2) Start the raid for / in degraded mode from

Re: Debian-Live 7.6.0 usb username & password?

2014-11-06 Thread Diogene Laerce
On 11/06/2014 08:15 PM, m...@raseone.com wrote: > Hello, Hi, > I am attempting to run Debian-Live 7.6.0 from a usb drive (version > found > here http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/bt-hybrid/) and > I am unable to log in to the default user or root account. > > I have done ext

Debian-Live 7.6.0 usb username & password?

2014-11-06 Thread m...@raseone.com
Hello, I am attempting to run Debian-Live 7.6.0 from a usb drive (version found here http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/bt-hybrid/) and I am unable to log in to the default user or root account. I have done extensive searches 4 or 5 times and tried all of the common combos

Re: Rescue mode: cannot fix boot after raid1 repair

2014-11-06 Thread Ron Leach
Don, thank you for a very comprehensive sequence. I wanted to skip the part where the new disk was re-synced because that's going to take some 8 hours or so and I rather need to have the basic server up, albeit in degraded raid1 state, and then let it resync, so that the (few) users can access

git-buildpackage vs. dpkg-buildpackage

2014-11-06 Thread basti
Hello, I know that this can be a bit off-topic. When I try to build a package based on git and use git-buildpackage => docs are not include in deb-file. dpkg-buildpackage => docs ARE include in deb-file. dh_installdocs is included in rules at anytime. I don't understand. How can explain this? R

Re: Mount order after systemd update

2014-11-06 Thread Laurent Bigonville
Le Thu, 6 Nov 2014 16:04:10 +, Jonathan Dowland a écrit : > On Sun, Nov 02, 2014 at 07:31:06PM +0100, Sven Hartge wrote: > > I know. The package description is lacking crucial information and > > the web page isn't any better. > > > > See > > http://web.dodds.net/~vorlon/wiki/blog/Plymouth_i

Re: Multiple desktops in lightdm?

2014-11-06 Thread Eric Sharkey
On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 4:14 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Jo, 06 nov 14, 03:58:13, Hendrik Boom wrote: >> >> I want to be able to log on multiple times, simultaneously, to the same >> machine, with the same physical keyboard and boutse and screen, but with >> different user ids. So that when I'm

Re: Debian 6.2 and Systemd ?

2014-11-06 Thread berenger . morel
Le 05.11.2014 13:23, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI a écrit : On Wed, 5 Nov 2014 11:49:57 + Lisi Reisz wrote: > > When I install, I set up partitions with labels.  This avoids UUIDs and > > uses labels instead. > Many thanks; for setting the partitions with labels, is that an option in > the

Re: Rescue mode: cannot fix boot after raid1 repair

2014-11-06 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 06 Nov 2014, Ron Leach wrote: > /dev/sdb is partitioned: > sdb1: /boot2 (this was a simple copy of /boot on /dev/sda1; sda1 and sdb1 > were not raid) > sdb2: (raid1) / > sdb3: (raid1) /usr > sdb4: (raid1) /var > sdb5: swap > sdb6: (raid1) /tmp > sdb7: (raid1) /home > sdb8: (raid1) /userdata

Re: Mount order after systemd update

2014-11-06 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Sun, Nov 02, 2014 at 07:31:06PM +0100, Sven Hartge wrote: > I know. The package description is lacking crucial information and the > web page isn't any better. > > See http://web.dodds.net/~vorlon/wiki/blog/Plymouth_is_not_a_bootsplash/ > (Vorlon is Steve Langasek.) You're absoutely right. Wou

Rescue mode: cannot fix boot after raid1 repair

2014-11-06 Thread Ron Leach
List, good afternoon, We had a raid 1 failure on our (one remaining) Lenny system this morning, /dev/sda failed, and I've replaced it with a new disk, which is unformatted and unpartitioned at the moment. We're unable to boot from the second (original) disk in the machine, /dev/sdb. Guessing

Re: Question re: updating debain stable kernels...

2014-11-06 Thread Lisi Reisz
Summary of all that: On Saturday 25 October 2014 17:24:52 Tanstaafl wrote: > Is the system in some kind of fragile limbo that means I need to reboot > asap? No. > Or is everything fine, but the next time I reboot, I'll automatically be > on the new kernel? Yes. But I reboot sooner rather than

Re: forks, derivatives, other distros - what are you thinking/doing

2014-11-06 Thread berenger . morel
Le 06.11.2014 10:26, Andrei POPESCU a écrit : On Mi, 05 nov 14, 09:32:57, Miles Fidelman wrote: 3. What other options/initiatives are you aware of that you've discarded or otherwise are not considering, and why? Not sure why you're not considering Debian GNU/kFreeBSD. Due to the BSD kernel

Re: debian update + systemd + broken

2014-11-06 Thread Bob
On Wed, 5 Nov 2014 12:09:35 -0800 Don Armstrong wrote: > On Wed, 05 Nov 2014, Bob wrote: > > Installed systemd again , no change, BUT WAIT. if I execute "exit" > > command from maintenance, it put me into normal graphical mode. OK, > > now I got it few times... first it put me into maintenanc

Re: forks, derivatives, other distros - what are you thinking/doing

2014-11-06 Thread berenger . morel
Le 06.11.2014 00:40, Nuno Magalhães a écrit : A sane approach would be to improve the bits that neet improving, like the (sadly named) uselessd, openrc, etc. Just a note, here. Uselessd is a well-named systemd's fork. Well named, because it does less that systemd. And it does have the systemd'

Re: forks, derivatives, other distros - what are you thinking/doing

2014-11-06 Thread Miles Fidelman
Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Mi, 05 nov 14, 09:32:57, Miles Fidelman wrote: 3. What other options/initiatives are you aware of that you've discarded or otherwise are not considering, and why? Not sure why you're not considering Debian GNU/kFreeBSD. Due to the BSD kernel it's guaranteed to not have

Re: forks, derivatives, other distros - what are you thinking/doing

2014-11-06 Thread Joel Rees
On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > [...] > Let's attempt an analogy: if several members of a literature club > started to use the literature club room to (lively) discuss their common > interests in motorbikes, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_and_the_Art_of_Motorcycle_

[OT] who are these nutcases? [Re: forks, derivatives, other distros - what are you thinking/doing]

2014-11-06 Thread Miles Fidelman
Who are these folks who insist on jumping into discussions and insisting that people shouldn't be having it, or otherwise generating lots of irrelevant noise - because they disagree or are not interested in, or whatever? Mark Carroll wrote: "Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI" writes: On Thu, 06 Nov 201

Re: 802.3x pause frames

2014-11-06 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 05 Nov 2014, Julia Niewiejska wrote: > I indend to do some experiments with 802.3x pause frames, but I have > yet to find a setup that works. I used a tool that generates pause Julia, you will have *much* better luck getting an answer for the linux-on-baremetal (i.e. physical machine) beha

Re: Mount order after systemd update

2014-11-06 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon, Nov 03, 2014 at 06:23:02PM +0100, Erwan David wrote: > None of this wiull give you a hpowto migrate a perfectly working > configuration to systemd. Nothing. Reading all this will give you bits > of answers but difficult to pout together. When I asked about a > encrypted filessystem proble,

Re: Multiple desktops in lightdm?

2014-11-06 Thread Brian
On Thu 06 Nov 2014 at 11:14:58 +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Jo, 06 nov 14, 03:58:13, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > > I want to be able to log on multiple times, simultaneously, to the same > > machine, with the same physical keyboard and boutse and screen, but with > > different user ids. So

Re: forks, derivatives, other distros - what are you thinking/doing

2014-11-06 Thread Mark Carroll
"Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI" writes: > On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 10:24:13 +0100 > Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > >> Let's attempt an analogy: if several members of a literature club >> started to use the literature club room to (lively) discuss their common >> interests in motorbikes, ice creams or ponytai

AW: forks, derivatives, other distros - what are you thinking/doing

2014-11-06 Thread Tariq Doukkali
Please respect this list. We are not discussing personal opinions Cheers -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI [mailto:ren...@olgiati-in-paraguay.org] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 6. November 2014 10:33 An: debian-user@lists.debian.org Betreff: Re: forks, derivatives, other d

Re: forks, derivatives, other distros - what are you thinking/doing

2014-11-06 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
On Thu, 06 Nov 2014 10:24:13 +0100 Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > Let's attempt an analogy: if several members of a literature club > started to use the literature club room to (lively) discuss their common > interests in motorbikes, ice creams or ponytails, Your analogy does not hold water si

Re: forks, derivatives, other distros - what are you thinking/doing

2014-11-06 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 05 nov 14, 09:32:57, Miles Fidelman wrote: > 3. What other options/initiatives are you aware of that you've > discarded or otherwise are not considering, and why? Not sure why you're not considering Debian GNU/kFreeBSD. Due to the BSD kernel it's guaranteed to not have systemd, not even t

Re: forks, derivatives, other distros - what are you thinking/doing

2014-11-06 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Le mercredi, 5 novembre 2014, 11.45:55 Haines Brown a écrit : > This seems to me an entirely legitimate issue for the debian-user > group, for it concerns whether Debian will continue to be useful in > relation to the needs and values of its average user. debian-user is not a "group of subscribers

Re: Multiple desktops in lightdm?

2014-11-06 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 06 nov 14, 03:58:13, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > I want to be able to log on multiple times, simultaneously, to the same > machine, with the same physical keyboard and boutse and screen, but with > different user ids. So that when I'm logged in as myself, and my friend > comes by who wants