Hi all,
The first task of my project is done. Openbox is systemd-free, and is
intended to be systemd free. So that will form the GUI foundation. I'll
come back in the next few days with some systemd-free panels that go
well with Openbox, as well as a lock program.
So far my research is telling me
On 16/10/14 10:38 PM, Edward Diener wrote:
Debian 7.6 has 3 installation DVDs. Are all 3 needed to install Debian ?
No. Just the first one. You don't even need that if you do a net
install. The net install fits onto a single CD and downloads extra
packages as you need them. The installation D
Debian 7.6 has 3 installation DVDs. Are all 3 needed to install Debian ?
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On 10/16/2014 08:41 PM, Ric Moore wrote:
But, I consider it idiotic to bash Red Hat as ~anyone~ with the guts can
do what Bob Young did. Just gather some talented people together around
a kitchen table and create your own distro. That is perfectly legal and
now they are worth billions, by start
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 09:13:47PM +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Vi, 17 oct 14, 00:05:50, Chris Bannister wrote:
> >
> > Lina, could you post to the list only, please.
> > I haven't dived into systemd issues -- so can't help you, hoping someone
> > else can.
> >
> > I see you refer to a [1],
On 10/15/2014 08:02 PM, Marty wrote:
On 10/15/2014 04:19 PM, Ric Moore wrote:
This is fortuitous!
Not a bad gig
at all. I'm sure some soreheads think that we debated WORLD DOMINATION
during lunch, or how to screw over Debian, but sadly we mostly discussed
what was the "Right Thing"
Do yo
Joel Rees writes:
> If the isp responds with a code that says my user-id is valid, the
> junk mailer knows he has a live address.
They have no way of knowing whether the address is still in use or not.
> If the isp responds to the bad ones with an invalid user-id code, any
> user-id that doesn'
Now let's see what happens with this!
https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2014/10/msg1.html
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Am 16.10.2014 um 18:52 schrieb Pierre Frenkiel:
> hi,
> it seems that tha last version of systemd in jessie (215-5+b1)
> has a big number of bugs, among which the very long time to shutdown,
> mainly
> for samba (5 minutes).
The samba package does not properly clean up it's config files on
upgrade
On Thu, 16 Oct 2014 20:07:42 +0200 (CEST)
Pierre Frenkiel wrote:
> oops! sorry for the error in the subject: obviously, I meant
> "shutdown" and not "boot"
> I think better to re-submit with the correct subject
>
> hi,
> it seems that tha last version of systemd in jessie (215-5+b1)
> has a big
On Thu, 16 Oct 2014, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> - how does one explicitly install a lower-priority alternative, and
You just explicitly install it.
For example, if you were installing something that needed
mail-transport-agent, but didn't already have something that provided
it, and didn't want exim
On Thu 16 Oct 2014 at 14:59:12 -0400, Doug wrote:
> On 10/16/2014 02:33 PM, Brian wrote:
> > On Thu 16 Oct 2014 at 13:12:12 -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
>
> /snip/
>
> >
> > The technique given by Jonathan Dowland works and appears to me to
> > involve a minimal amount of work for someone wanting to
On Thu 16 Oct 2014 at 14:08:47 -0400, Rob Owens wrote:
> > From: "Marty"
> >
> > It seems like free software employment and market share come with
> > increasing risk to objectivity and technical quality. It's my main
> > concern as a Debian user, as I consider recent trends.
> >
> > I hope tha
Don Armstrong wrote:
On Thu, 16 Oct 2014, Miles Fidelman wrote:
As I dig more into the whole question of installing alternate init systems,
I realize that I'm a bit confused about the behavior of apt- when it comes
to virtual packages; and I can't find any documentation that clarifies
things.
Y
also sprach The Wanderer [2014-10-16 15:12 +0200]:
> The people who voted to make systemd the default init system
> presumably think that it already does meet Debian standards, at
> least to within acceptable tolerances.
I don't think this is the case. The CTTE's decision was IMHO based
largely o
Brian wrote:
On Thu 16 Oct 2014 at 13:12:12 -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
Brian wrote:
There is no preseed command which can alter this.
It may be that adding --include=sysvinit-core to debootstrap will cause
the other branch of that dependency to be taken. I have not tested it.
If that is the case
On 10/16/2014 02:33 PM, Brian wrote:
> On Thu 16 Oct 2014 at 13:12:12 -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
/snip/
>
> The technique given by Jonathan Dowland works and appears to me to
> involve a minimal amount of work for someone wanting to end up booting a
> new install with sysvinit. Depending on what is
On Thu 16 Oct 2014 at 13:12:12 -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
> Brian wrote:
> >
> > There is no preseed command which can alter this.
>
> It may be that adding --include=sysvinit-core to debootstrap will cause
> the other branch of that dependency to be taken. I have not tested it.
> If that is the ca
On Thu, 16 Oct 2014, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> As I dig more into the whole question of installing alternate init systems,
> I realize that I'm a bit confused about the behavior of apt- when it comes
> to virtual packages; and I can't find any documentation that clarifies
> things.
You're looking fo
Joey Hess wrote:
Brian wrote:
I'd suggest that the principal udeb package to consider as responsible
for installing the base system is bootstrap-base. It runs debootstrap.
Debian Policy specifies the base packages as being of Priority: required
and Priority: important.
You can get lists of thes
Rob Owens wrote:
- Original Message -
From: "Marty"
It seems like free software employment and market share come with
increasing risk to objectivity and technical quality. It's my main
concern as a Debian user, as I consider recent trends.
I hope that Debian members consider an amendm
On Vi, 17 oct 14, 00:05:50, Chris Bannister wrote:
>
> Lina, could you post to the list only, please.
> I haven't dived into systemd issues -- so can't help you, hoping someone
> else can.
>
> I see you refer to a [1], but it is not there! :)
...
> dove systemd[1]: /usr appears to be on its own
- Original Message -
> From: "Marty"
>
> It seems like free software employment and market share come with
> increasing risk to objectivity and technical quality. It's my main
> concern as a Debian user, as I consider recent trends.
>
> I hope that Debian members consider an amendment to
oops! sorry for the error in the subject: obviously, I meant "shutdown"
and not "boot"
I think better to re-submit with the correct subject
hi,
it seems that tha last version of systemd in jessie (215-5+b1)
has a big number of bugs, among which the very long time to shutdown, mainly
for samba (5
Folks,
As I dig more into the whole question of installing alternate init
systems, I realize that I'm a bit confused about the behavior of apt-
when it comes to virtual packages; and I can't find any documentation
that clarifies things.
Specifically, in this situation:
Package: A
Depends: B
On 2014-10-16 19:12 +0200, Joey Hess wrote:
> Brian wrote:
>>
>> The init package is Priority: required. It pre-depends on
>>
>>systemd-sysv | sysvinit-core | upstart
>>
>> The first alternative is systemd-sysv, which pre-depends on systemd.
>>
>> There is no preseed command which can alte
Am Donnerstag, 16. Oktober 2014, 18:52:41 schrieb Pierre Frenkiel:
> hi,
> it seems that tha last version of systemd in jessie (215-5+b1)
> has a big number of bugs, among which the very long time to shutdown, mainly
> for samba (5 minutes). Trying to kill samba manually before the shutdown
> did n
On 14Oct16:1151-0400, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> It strikes me that there's actually very little that needs to be done. In
> the short term, the world, including Debian, will continue to support
> sysvinit scripts - if only because the BSDs aren't going anywhere, I expect
> autotools will continue t
Brian wrote:
> I'd suggest that the principal udeb package to consider as responsible
> for installing the base system is bootstrap-base. It runs debootstrap.
> Debian Policy specifies the base packages as being of Priority: required
> and Priority: important.
>
> You can get lists of these packag
hi,
it seems that tha last version of systemd in jessie (215-5+b1)
has a big number of bugs, among which the very long time to shutdown, mainly
for samba (5 minutes). Trying to kill samba manually before the shutdown
did not solve the problem.
I then tried to downgrade to version 208-8, which is a
On Thu, 16 Oct 2014, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:
I have now the check what happens with Windows.
I did it, and had the same problem (right side darker than the left one),
even after installing the Windows Nvidia driver.
I then found that I could fix it with a flat screen setting.
Steve Litt wrote:
On Thu, 16 Oct 2014 11:28:50 -0400
Steve Litt wrote:
POINT OF CLARIFICATION:
Nothing written below is nosh specific. It could be used with nosh, or
upstart, or sysvinit, or any other PID1 that's *only* a PID1. So how
about it, who wants to join me in neutering systemd on Deb
On Thu, 16 Oct 2014 11:28:50 -0400
Steve Litt wrote:
POINT OF CLARIFICATION:
Nothing written below is nosh specific. It could be used with nosh, or
upstart, or sysvinit, or any other PID1 that's *only* a PID1. So how
about it, who wants to join me in neutering systemd on Debian and
probably eve
On Thu, 16 Oct 2014, Slavko wrote:
> aptitude search -w 60 -F "%c%a %p %v" '~i?depends(libsystemd0)'
[...]
> LANG=C dpkg -l libsystemd0
> dpkg-query: no packages found matching libsystemd0
[...]
> aptitude search -w 60 -F "%c%a %p %v" 'libsystemd0'
[...]
> Now, please, tell to us, how can any pack
On Thu, 16 Oct 2014 21:52:58 +0900
Joel Rees wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 9:33 PM, Nate Bargmann wrote:
> > * On 2014 15 Oct 19:39 -0500, Joel Rees wrote:
> >> systemd's problems would best be discussed at the systemd project.
> >> (Modulo the willingness of the devs over there to discuss th
On Thu 16 Oct 2014 at 14:55:54 +0200, L.M.J wrote:
> I have a server (serverA) where I use the command "lp -h
> printserver ..." to print to a printer attached on the "printserver"
> : it works fine.
To be clear on this, your full command is
lp -h printserver -d
and the IP of printserver i
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 9:57 PM, Nate Bargmann wrote:
> * On 2014 16 Oct 07:54 -0500, Joel Rees wrote:
>> Would that be debian's sysv-init?
>
> That link is from the sysvinit-core package's description in Sid's
> Aptitude. Presumably it is the upstream project.
Thank you. I was under the impress
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 9:34 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:
> On 10/16/2014 7:40 AM, Joel Rees wrote:
>> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 7:58 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:
>>> > On 10/15/2014 8:37 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> Tanstaafl couldn't answer it, and you can't either, because it's not
>> violating any.
Brian wrote:
On Wed 15 Oct 2014 at 21:47:45 -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote:
Brian wrote:
I'd suggest that the principal udeb package to consider as responsible
for installing the base system is bootstrap-base. It runs debootstrap.
Debian Policy specifies the base packages as being of Priority: re
On 10/16/2014 at 06:37 AM, Tanstaafl wrote:
> Please do not send to me directly, I am on the list.
>
> On 10/15/2014 3:15 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>
>> On 10/15/2014 12:40 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:
>>> The status code is not *sent* anywhere - it is a response
>>> directly to the connecting machine.
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 01:45:04PM +0100, Domenico Curigliano wrote:
> Hello guys,
>
> I experienced an issue with the 7.6 iso downloaded from debian.org.
> I don't understand what could be wrong. I tried to burn the iso file
> with nero on windows, k3b on linux and I also tried to create a usb
>
On 10/15/2014 02:45 PM, Jape Person wrote:
On 10/15/2014 01:38 PM, Don Armstrong wrote:
On Wed, 15 Oct 2014, Sven Joachim wrote:
I don't think there is actually an I/O error here, looking at the code
systemd-gpt-auto-generator makes this error up:
,
| errno = 0;
| r = blkid
On Wed 15 Oct 2014 at 21:47:45 -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> Brian wrote:
> >
> >I'd suggest that the principal udeb package to consider as responsible
> >for installing the base system is bootstrap-base. It runs debootstrap.
> >Debian Policy specifies the base packages as being of Priority: requ
Ahoj,
Dňa Thu, 16 Oct 2014 12:02:45 +0300 Andrei POPESCU
napísal:
> On Mi, 15 oct 14, 22:58:49, The Wanderer wrote:
> >
> > IOW, I think he wasn't talking about systemd per se, but about
> > apparent false-positive results from the aptitude
> > reverse-dependency search.
>
> In other posts to
On Thu 16 Oct 2014 at 13:45:04 +0100, Domenico Curigliano wrote:
> I experienced an issue with the 7.6 iso downloaded from debian.org.
> I don't understand what could be wrong. I tried to burn the iso file
> with nero on windows, k3b on linux and I also tried to create a usb
> bootable device to i
On 10/15/2014 02:45 PM, Jape Person wrote:
On 10/15/2014 01:38 PM, Don Armstrong wrote:
On Wed, 15 Oct 2014, Sven Joachim wrote:
I don't think there is actually an I/O error here, looking at the code
systemd-gpt-auto-generator makes this error up:
,
| errno = 0;
| r = blkid
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 02:31:15PM +0200, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
> On 10/16/2014 14:07, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> > Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
> >> No, what I find annoying is telling volunteer what they have to do
> >> without doing anything yourself on the issues you raise and repeating
> >> "don't b
On Thursday 16 October 2014 13:45:04 Domenico Curigliano wrote:
> Hello guys,
>
> I experienced an issue with the 7.6 iso downloaded from debian.org.
> I don't understand what could be wrong. I tried to burn the iso file
> with nero on windows, k3b on linux and I also tried to create a usb
> bootab
On 10/16/2014 at 06:17 AM, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach David L. Craig [2014-10-14 00:16
> +0200]:
>
>> Jessie may need to be widely considered the Vista of Debian
>> releases before a majority of DDs are willing to revisit the init
>> default.
>
> Meanwhile, everyone who thinks this wa
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 08:58:37PM +0800, lina wrote:
> I installed the lvm and its dependencies, it shows
> /local-premount/lvm: not found
>
> problem persists ...
Well, if you're not using LVM, then yes that won't apply. It wasn't
possible to tell that from your fstab.
Basically, the error you
Hello guys,
I experienced an issue with the 7.6 iso downloaded from debian.org.
I don't understand what could be wrong. I tried to burn the iso file
with nero on windows, k3b on linux and I also tried to create a usb
bootable device to install debian.
I tried to boot in a lenovo and a sony vaio.
I installed the lvm and its dependencies, it shows
/local-premount/lvm: not found
problem persists ...
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 8:25 PM, lina wrote:
>> * Add "break=premount" to the end of your kernel commandline and boot
>
> At the grub stage, there is no reaction to the "e" or "c" I pressed.
>
* On 2014 16 Oct 07:54 -0500, Joel Rees wrote:
> Would that be debian's sysv-init?
That link is from the sysvinit-core package's description in Sid's
Aptitude. Presumably it is the upstream project.
- Nate
--
"The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all
possible worlds. The pessim
Hi,
I have a server (serverA) where I use the command "lp -h printserver
..." to print to a printer attached on the "printserver" : it works
fine.
I also registered remote printer on "printserver" via "lpadmin -p PRVA
-v
ipp://remoteserver01/printers/PRVA?waitprinter=false\&waitjob=false\
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 9:33 PM, Nate Bargmann wrote:
> * On 2014 15 Oct 19:39 -0500, Joel Rees wrote:
>> systemd's problems would best be discussed at the systemd project. (Modulo
>> the willingness of the devs over there to discuss them.)
>>
>> What I'm thinking is to talk about specific feature
On 10/16/2014 7:40 AM, Joel Rees wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 7:58 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:
>> > On 10/15/2014 8:37 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>> >> Tanstaafl couldn't answer it, and you can't either, because it's not
>>> >> violating any.
>> >
>> > I did answer it, you just ignored it or don't u
* On 2014 15 Oct 19:39 -0500, Joel Rees wrote:
> systemd's problems would best be discussed at the systemd project. (Modulo
> the willingness of the devs over there to discuss them.)
>
> What I'm thinking is to talk about specific features to enable the sort of
> "managing services" that systemd s
On 10/16/2014 14:07, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
>> No, what I find annoying is telling volunteer what they have to do
>> without doing anything yourself on the issues you raise and repeating
>> "don't break Linux" endlessly. I think everybody knows by now you
>> believe that, t
On 10/16/2014 7:31 AM, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 06:50:01AM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote:
>> Anyone who runs a mail server and doesn't monitor the postmaster address
>> shouldn't be running a mail server.
> Tell that to yahoo, they *don't seem* to have a postmaster address nor an
> * Add "break=premount" to the end of your kernel commandline and boot
At the grub stage, there is no reaction to the "e" or "c" I pressed.
>* If you have panic= set, remove it. For some reason,
> those two options conflict and you won't get a shell, even though
> you explicit
On 10/15/2014 08:53 AM, maderios wrote:
To compile Terminology, install all Enlightenment + Efl dev libs
packages, of course...
I apologize: only EFL dev packages needing, not Enlightenment
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On 16/10/14 22:31, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 06:50:01AM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote:
>>
>> Anyone who runs a mail server and doesn't keep logs shouldn't be running
>> a mail server.
>>
>> *And* the postmaster address monitored,
>>
>> Anyone who runs a mail server and doesn't moni
Guys -
Please take this off-list. Things have gone way, way past the point where
this is of an interest or relevance to anyone else on this list.
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Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
Steve Litt writes:
Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
Steve Litt writes:
OK, I'll be the first to admit that after Red Hat caused the demise
of ConsoleKit (and probably lots more important software), I am
free to take significant time out of my day job (that feeds my
family) an
On Thu, 16 Oct 2014 06:54:09 -0400
Tanstaafl wrote:
Hello Tanstaafl,
>On 10/15/2014 5:12 PM, Brad Rogers wrote:
>> Send an email with a large attachment(1) and there are quite a few
>> servers that will silently drop it.
>Anyone who does that is breaking SMTP. If you don't want messages over
On Thu, 16 Oct 2014 11:59:24 +0100
Lisi Reisz wrote:
> My golly, you are an arrogant self-opinionated individual. As well as
> misinformed and mistaken.
Thank you for those kind words. However, I think you are undermining your
attempt at establishing your moral superiority, by using them.
--
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 7:58 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:
> On 10/15/2014 8:37 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> Tanstaafl couldn't answer it, and you can't either, because it's not
>> violating any.
>
> I did answer it, you just ignored it or don't understand it.
>
> Quote:
>
> "You do not have to violate an
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 06:50:01AM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote:
>
> Anyone who runs a mail server and doesn't keep logs shouldn't be running
> a mail server.
>
> *And* the postmaster address monitored,
>
> Anyone who runs a mail server and doesn't monitor the postmaster address
> shouldn't be runnin
Lina, could you post to the list only, please.
I haven't dived into systemd issues -- so can't help you, hoping someone
else can.
I see you refer to a [1], but it is not there! :)
- Forwarded message from lina -
Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 17:29:18 +0800
From: lina
To: Chris Bannister
Sub
On Thursday 16 October 2014 11:46:46 Anders Wegge Keller wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Oct 2014 11:38:59 +0100
>
> Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > On Thursday 16 October 2014 07:55:40 Anders Wegge Keller wrote:
> > > On Wed, 15 Oct 2014 14:01:44 -0700
> > >
> > > Bob Holtzman wrote:
> > > > What I read of your post
On 10/15/2014 8:37 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> Tanstaafl couldn't answer it, and you can't either, because it's not
> violating any.
I did answer it, you just ignored it or don't understand it.
Quote:
"You do not have to violate an RFC to break SMTP."
Here is a real world example:
Improperly c
On 10/15/2014 5:12 PM, Brad Rogers wrote:
> Send an email with a large attachment(1) and there are quite a few
> servers that will silently drop it.
Anyone who does that is breaking SMTP. If you don't want messages over a
certain size, REJECT them, but absolutely do not EVER accept then
silently
On 10/15/2014 4:58 PM, Joe wrote:
> It's worth some effort, at the moment it is the single most effective
> anti-spam measure. If you outsource your mail, it's worth going to some
> trouble to find a hosting company who will hold and accept updates for
> a list of valid recipients.
Or even easier
On Thu, 16 Oct 2014 11:38:59 +0100
Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Thursday 16 October 2014 07:55:40 Anders Wegge Keller wrote:
> > On Wed, 15 Oct 2014 14:01:44 -0700
> >
> > Bob Holtzman wrote:
> > > What I read of your post wasn't dissent. It was character
> > > assassination.
> >
> > Please let me kn
On 10/15/2014 4:44 PM, Joe wrote:
> However, if the Reply-To: is forged, i.e. if it is spam, the
> alternative is considerably less OK. Bouncing a spam message simply
> delivers *the* *entire* *message* to an innocent third party, having
> been laundered through your (presumably legitimate and res
On Thursday 16 October 2014 07:55:40 Anders Wegge Keller wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Oct 2014 14:01:44 -0700
>
> Bob Holtzman wrote:
> > What I read of your post wasn't dissent. It was character
> > assassination.
>
> Please let me know how to point out that an idiotic behaviour is
> disruptive to the wh
Please do not send to me directly, I am on the list.
On 10/15/2014 3:15 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> On 10/15/2014 12:40 PM, Tanstaafl wrote:
>> Easy enough to prove. By all means, quote the actual text of me saying
>> this was 'OK'...
> You said:
>
> "However, once a message has been accepted -
On 10/15/2014 3:13 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> Tanstaafl wrote:
>> 1. email to invalid recipients should be rejected at the RCPT-TO stage,
> Easier said then done - at least when a server does relaying, but
> clearly ideal when possible.
No, it is 100% easily done.
For servers under your contr
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 05:54:26PM +0800, lina wrote:
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=742048
>
> I am still not clear about how to fix it. It is exactly like the
> problem mentioned in this bug.
Ah, I ran into that problem myself the other day. My solution was:
* Add "break=
also sprach David L. Craig [2014-10-14 00:16 +0200]:
> Jessie may need to be widely considered the Vista of Debian
> releases before a majority of DDs are willing to revisit the init
> default.
Meanwhile, everyone who thinks this was the wrong decision should
work to ensure that sysvinit continue
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=742048
I am still not clear about how to fix it. It is exactly like the
problem mentioned in this bug.
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 5:47 PM, lina wrote:
> It doesn't mount the /usr /var /tmp
>
> Timed out waiting for device dev-disk-by\x ...
> Depende
It doesn't mount the /usr /var /tmp
Timed out waiting for device dev-disk-by\x ...
Dependency failed for /var
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 5:29 PM, lina wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 4:55 PM, Chris Bannister
> wrote:
>> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 01:00:21PM +0800, lina wrote:
>>> Any suggestions ab
On Thu, 16 Oct 2014 09:23:02 +0100
Joe wrote:
Hello Joe,
{snipped explanations}
All very useful info, thanks; Cleared up a few things for me.
>I'm not for a moment doubting that it happens as you say, but there's
>no need for it in the case of a legitimate email, it is always possible
I suspe
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 4:55 PM, Chris Bannister
wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 01:00:21PM +0800, lina wrote:
>> Any suggestions about
>>
>> failed to start remount root and kernel file system
>>
>> Is it due to updating issue? some package like systemd, or util-linux?
>>
>> Jessie box.
>
> Dunn
On Mi, 15 oct 14, 22:58:49, The Wanderer wrote:
>
> IOW, I think he wasn't talking about systemd per se, but about apparent
> false-positive results from the aptitude reverse-dependency search.
In other posts to this Slavko alluded to recompiling packages to get rid
of systemd dependencies.
Kin
Hallo,
which distro would u recommend given the following wishes:
- debian/debian based
- stable
- recent (ie debian stable being to old for the desktop in my opinion)
- no blobs (ie closed firmware for example) in the kernel or default
installation
- having the option to choose non free softwar
On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 01:00:21PM +0800, lina wrote:
> Any suggestions about
>
> failed to start remount root and kernel file system
>
> Is it due to updating issue? some package like systemd, or util-linux?
>
> Jessie box.
Dunno. Is it an fstab issue? I'm only guessing here because you haven'
On Jo, 16 oct 14, 07:31:56, Joel Rees wrote:
> 2014/10/16 5:59 "Andrei POPESCU" :
> >
> > The problem with this approach is that it's not fine-grained enough,
> > i.e. it can't distinguish between users logged in locally or via ssh.
> > This means Mallory could easily spy on Alice remotely, just by
On Thu, 16 Oct 2014 07:33:38 +0100
Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 01:12:51AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> > OK, I'll be the first to admit that after Red Hat caused the demise
> > of ConsoleKit (and probably lots more important software), I am
> > free to take significant time ou
On Wed, 15 Oct 2014 22:12:41 +0100
Brad Rogers wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Oct 2014 21:44:30 +0100
> Joe wrote:
>
> Hello Joe,
>
> >It is *not* OK to silently delete an already accepted email, it does
>
> Unfortunately, it happens; Send an email with a large attachment(1)
> and there are quite a few
On Mon, 6 Oct 2014, Darac Marjal wrote:
The easiest option is probably to boot with only the HDMI connected.
As I already said, that works, but there are 2 problems:
1/ In graphic mode, the right part of the screen (about one half) is much
darker than
the left one
The problem i
On Thu, 16 Oct 2014 00:54:02 +0100
Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
wrote:
> wande...@fastmail.fm:
> > I have a similar lack of awareness and/or understanding about all
> > of
> > the *kit packages / projects / tools / what-have-you, actually; I'm
> > not positive I even know how many there are, much
Steve Litt writes:
> Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
>> Steve Litt writes:
>> > OK, I'll be the first to admit that after Red Hat caused the demise
>> > of ConsoleKit (and probably lots more important software), I am
>> > free to take significant time out of my day job (that feeds my
>> > family) and re
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