Re: systemd-shim to be removed?

2014-09-30 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 30 Sep 2014, Rusi Mody wrote: > Yeah one more systemd thread [Not a rant!] > > I am getting that systemd-shim is to be removed. > Is this expected? It looks like you are trying to install systemd-shim amd64 and systemd-shim i386 at the same time, but it's not totally clear. What's the co

Re: systemd-shim to be removed?

2014-09-30 Thread Erwan David
On Wed, Oct 01, 2014 at 04:07:39AM CEST, Rusi Mody said: > Yeah one more systemd thread [Not a rant!] > > I am getting that systemd-shim is to be removed. > Is this expected? > > This is on testing running aptitude dist-upgrade. > > Dunno if this means anything: > > $ aptitude why-not systemd-

Re: gpg errors NO_PUBKEY after aptitude update

2014-09-30 Thread Valery Mamonov
2014-10-01 3:30 GMT+04:00 Ansgar Burchardt : > Valery Mamonov writes: > > I'm experiencing some troubles with updating my debian machine. > > After aptitude update i'm having multiple errors like these: > > > > W: GPG error: http://deb.ianod.es unstable InRelease: The following > > signatures cou

what's gnome-shell doing?

2014-09-30 Thread lumin
Hello list, I found strange things like this accidentally, for many times, when typed 'ss -apt' ``` ESTAB 0 0 10.170.32.43:60752 128.199.164.95:http users:(("gnome-shell",pid=1787,fd=19)) ``` my gnome-shell Version: 3.12.2-3 whois said the ip is "Digita

systemd-shim to be removed?

2014-09-30 Thread Rusi Mody
Yeah one more systemd thread [Not a rant!] I am getting that systemd-shim is to be removed. Is this expected? This is on testing running aptitude dist-upgrade. Dunno if this means anything: $ aptitude why-not systemd-shim i synapticRecommends gksu | kdebase-bin | policykit-1

Re: Fwd: Re: cron in UTC?

2014-09-30 Thread Joel Rees
2014/09/30 21:41 "Henrique de Moraes Holschuh" : > > On Tue, 30 Sep 2014, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > > On 30/09/14 11:57, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > > On Mon, 29 Sep 2014, Don Armstrong wrote: > > >> On Mon, 29 Sep 2014, John Hasler wrote: > > >>> Tony van der Hoff writes: > > Beli

Re: security camera software/RPi

2014-09-30 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 9/30/2014 7:11 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Sb, 27 sep 14, 05:23:29, ken wrote: >> >> What other cheap devices devices were you referring to that would better >> handle the load? > > https://wiki.debian.org/RaspberryPi > > Kind regards, > Andrei > You've never actually tried a RPi with a c

Re: gpg errors NO_PUBKEY after aptitude update

2014-09-30 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Valery Mamonov writes: > I'm experiencing some troubles with updating my debian machine. > After aptitude update i'm having multiple errors like these: > > W: GPG error: http://deb.ianod.es unstable InRelease: The following > signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available:

Re: Can't We Have Another Vote for Systemd (Coup)

2014-09-30 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 26 sep 14, 11:03:07, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Joel Roth wrote: > >On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 05:01:03PM -0400, Ric Moore wrote: > >>On 09/25/2014 02:25 PM, Joel Roth wrote: > >> > >>>I would say that systemd takeover of major Linux distributions > >>>and of Debian in particular would be a perfec

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-30 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 28 sep 14, 20:04:22, Slavko wrote: > > BTW, what you recommends is to change the DE due systemd, strange > solution. I want the exact opposite solution - i want to change the > (now default) init system due DE. And if you dont know why, then i will > tell you - because most of my work is do

Re: security camera software/RPi

2014-09-30 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 27 sep 14, 05:23:29, ken wrote: > > What other cheap devices devices were you referring to that would better > handle the load? https://wiki.debian.org/RaspberryPi Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: ht

Re: apt-get errors

2014-09-30 Thread Bob Proulx
Chris Bannister wrote: > John Aten wrote: > > Err http://http.us.debian.org wheezy/non-free i386 Packages 404 Not > ^ > Wow!! How long ago did you last update this laptop? IIRC, that url/mirror > is no longer in use. That alias is still alive and active and should be

Re: Data from a serial port

2014-09-30 Thread Bob Proulx
David Christensen wrote: > Ethan Rosenberg wrote: > >Wrote it myself. > > Then you need to learn how to program the serial port using whatever > language you picked. Your program will basically need to sit in a loop reading data from the point of sale serial port continuously. As data is read yo

Re: SLI Howto

2014-09-30 Thread Gábor Hársfalvi
Meanwhile I got it working... :) I had to use my /etc/default/grub with "vmalloc=320" parameter 2014-09-30 23:34 GMT+02:00 Gábor Hársfalvi : > Dear List, > > I wish to enable my two Nvidia 8600GT-s in SLI-mode, but I always have > this: > > "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep SLI > (**) NVIDIA(0): O

SLI Howto

2014-09-30 Thread Gábor Hársfalvi
Dear List, I wish to enable my two Nvidia 8600GT-s in SLI-mode, but I always have this: "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep SLI (**) NVIDIA(0): Option "SLI" "On" (**) Sep 30 23:05:10 NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA SLI auto-select rendering option. (WW) Sep 30 23:05:11 NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize SLI configura

RE: squeeze-lts problem with debian's keyrings or apt

2014-09-30 Thread Tobias Weiß
> You have hit it. Have I ? > So you want the _archive_ keyring. I have debian-archive-keyring installed as previously described. Unitl a few days ago I was able to receive updates from squeeze-lts. But not anymore. I tried installing a debian-archive-keyring from sid but this one does no

xen: was Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-30 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 17:57:41 +0400 Reco wrote: > Ok, ok. We all got it already. S*stemd in Debian = bad. S*stemd in > Fedora = good. Fedora has no xen, hence = bad. Debian has xen, hence = > good. > > Reco Reco, help me understand something: I don't understand why it matters what distro you cho

Re: Let's have a vote!

2014-09-30 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 21:13:53 +0900 Joel Rees wrote: > 2014/09/30 20:24 "Miles Fidelman" : > > > > Mart van de Wege wrote: > >> [snip] > >> No, but there is some sort of social contract that says that > >> fouling up a mailing list with pretty much the same whine every > >> post is just plain rude

Re: Let's have a vote!

2014-09-30 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 11:18:27 +0100 Martin Read wrote: > On 30/09/14 02:06, Hörmetjan Yiltiz wrote: > > ​Would not save that much, actually, since almost everyone here uses > > Debian and are Debian users, and furthermore, hopefully, users who > > use Debian and Debian only. > > I very much hope

Re: installing xfce theme manager

2014-09-30 Thread Michael Fothergill
If you want something which is not in the repositories you have to compile it. I downloaded the theme manager tarfile and then had a go at compiling it. I have tried a few times now and I always seem to get a segmentation fault when I try to run the program. I think I have installed all the pack

Re: Why an mp3 is "Not a JPEG file"

2014-09-30 Thread Johann Klammer
On 09/30/2014 06:20 AM, Chris Bannister wrote: As you can see I'm using mpv and it plays perfectly, it even mentions the attached picture. Try mpv, I use it for everything. So whether xine has a bug, I don't know, but if you can play it using mpv, then I'd report the bug against xine saying wher

Re: Debian and Enlightenment packages

2014-09-30 Thread maderios
On 09/30/2014 07:05 PM, John Holland wrote: I like Debian and Enlightenment and I have made packages of very recent E18, for Wheezy. They are available at vin-dit.org. The web page there gives the information for getting the GPG key and what to put in sources.list etc. You can also install the

Stand against needless forced change (systemd, gtk3)

2014-09-30 Thread John Garret
http://youtu.be/dH0NkW_7968   We stand righteously and forthrightly against change. We will not be Forced, milled, or pushed in any particular direction. And we will not be dragged by the nose, down. We recognize that newer is not always better. That often, in any particular field of endeavor, new

Re: Debian and Enlightenment packages

2014-09-30 Thread John Holland
I like Debian and Enlightenment and I have made packages of very recent E18, for Wheezy. They are available at vin-dit.org. The web page there gives the information for getting the GPG key and what to put in sources.list etc. You can also install the src debs if you want to examine before buildi

Re: Glimpse package

2014-09-30 Thread John Hasler
Nicolas Palix writes: > How/where can I request revival of the package ? https://wiki.debian.org/RFP -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.o

Glimpse package

2014-09-30 Thread Nicolas Palix
Hi, Glimpse [1] used to be in the non-free section, and as been removed in 2008. However, it has recently been open-sourced as stated by the press release. "9/26/2014: Both Webglimpse and Glimpse are now released under the ISC open source license! This is huge news and thanks to the University o

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-30 Thread Reco
Hi. On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 12:11:01AM +0200, lee wrote: > Reco writes: > > > About the only thing that I'm missing here is why would anyone should > > compile anything on a production server, Xen's dom0 specifically (as it > > seems to be the main lee's concern). > > I didn't have a server ba

Re: squeeze-lts problem with debian's keyrings or apt

2014-09-30 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 30 September 2014 13:25:17 Tobias Weiß wrote: > Yes I have ran apt-get update several times. Does squeeze-lts a another key > signature than the former Squeeze repo? I guess so, because it came to life > only a few month ago. The question how I can obtain the key signature in > querstion

Re: squeeze-lts problem with debian's keyrings or apt

2014-09-30 Thread Tobias Weiß
Howdy, > While you're waiting for others with answers, have you run "apt-get > update" yet? If not, it's one of the steps in APT to make sure we're > ?as current as Humanly possible.. Beyond being current, I'm also > looking to see if you receive any related errors if/when you run that > step..

Re: Fwd: Re: cron in UTC?

2014-09-30 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 30 Sep 2014, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > On 30/09/14 11:57, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > On Mon, 29 Sep 2014, Don Armstrong wrote: > >> On Mon, 29 Sep 2014, John Hasler wrote: > >>> Tony van der Hoff writes: > Believe me; I've beaten that man to death, but not found the answer

Re: Let's have a vote!

2014-09-30 Thread Miles Fidelman
Joel Rees wrote: 2014/09/30 20:24 "Miles Fidelman" >: > > Mart van de Wege wrote: >> >> lee mailto:l...@yagibdah.de>> writes: >> >>> Stephen Allen > writes: >>> So, Lee why are you even here complaining about Debian -

Re: Let's have a vote!

2014-09-30 Thread Gian Uberto Lauri
Miles Fidelman writes: > >> What difference does it make? Is there some sort of social contract you > >> need to sign which forbids you to mention any disadvantages Debian might > >> have and only allows you to praise its advantages? > >> > > No, but there is some sort of social contract that

Re: Let's have a vote!

2014-09-30 Thread Joel Rees
2014/09/30 20:24 "Miles Fidelman" : > > Mart van de Wege wrote: >> >> lee writes: >> >>> Stephen Allen writes: >>> So, Lee why are you even here complaining about Debian - You've admitted you don't use it?! >>> >>> My server runs on Debian. So technically, I'm using it, and I don't >>>

Debian and Enlightenment packages

2014-09-30 Thread maderios
Hi Some questions/thought criticism not very optimistic about Debian, Enlightenment and EFL I discovered that Debian maintainers highlight an outdated Enlightenment page with an outdated version, the 18-RC2 dated December 2013 and presented as "A new upstream release" https://tracker.debian.o

Re: Fwd: Re: cron in UTC?

2014-09-30 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 30/09/14 11:57, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Mon, 29 Sep 2014, Don Armstrong wrote: >> On Mon, 29 Sep 2014, John Hasler wrote: >>> Tony van der Hoff writes: Believe me; I've beaten that man to death, but not found the answer. Perhaps you'd like to give a more detailed pointe

Re: squeeze-lts problem with debian's keyrings or apt

2014-09-30 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 9/30/14, Tobias Weiß wrote: > Hello world, > > my apt on squeeze-lts complains that the updates could not be verified. This > happens since the updates for apache were made a few days ago. > > I got the latest keyring package debian, at least I think so: > root@web1-tk2:~# dpkg -l | grep keyrin

Re: vsftpd with ssl

2014-09-30 Thread Stephen Powell
On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 00:12:47 -0400 (EDT), Marko Randjelovic wrote: > > Thanks for your informative answer, it did solve my problem, after > enabling implicit_ssl option in vsftpd (and btw after disabling > ssl:verify-certificate in lftp), I could transfer a test file. How did you get the certific

Re: Let's have a vote!

2014-09-30 Thread Miles Fidelman
Mart van de Wege wrote: lee writes: Stephen Allen writes: So, Lee why are you even here complaining about Debian - You've admitted you don't use it?! My server runs on Debian. So technically, I'm using it, and I don't feel like I'm using it. What difference does it make? Is there some s

Re: Fwd: Re: cron in UTC?

2014-09-30 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 29 Sep 2014, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Mon, 29 Sep 2014, John Hasler wrote: > > Tony van der Hoff writes: > > > Believe me; I've beaten that man to death, but not found the answer. > > > Perhaps you'd like to give a more detailed pointer into that manual? > > > > See the part about setting

Re: gpg errors NO_PUBKEY after aptitude update

2014-09-30 Thread Valery Mamonov
2014-09-30 14:24 GMT+04:00 Lisi Reisz : > On Tuesday 30 September 2014 11:14:52 Valery Mamonov wrote: > > Only "third-party" repositories are affected. > > You have added the third party keys? > > Lisi > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "un

Re: gpg errors NO_PUBKEY after aptitude update

2014-09-30 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 30 September 2014 11:14:52 Valery Mamonov wrote: > Only "third-party" repositories are affected. You have added the third party keys? Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: Let's have a vote!

2014-09-30 Thread Martin Read
On 30/09/14 02:06, Hörmetjan Yiltiz wrote: ​Would not save that much, actually, since almost everyone here uses Debian and are Debian users, and furthermore, hopefully, users who use Debian and Debian only. I very much hope that many people here do not use *only* Debian, because people with di

Re: gpg errors NO_PUBKEY after aptitude update

2014-09-30 Thread Valery Mamonov
2014-09-27 18:10 GMT+04:00 Valery Mamonov : > NO_PUBKEY 54422A4B98AB5139 removing contents of /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/*.gpg, /etc/apt/trusted.gpg and manual adding missing keys didn't work. Only "third-party" repositories are affected. -- Best regards, Valery Mamonov.

Re: Apt-dpkg differences

2014-09-30 Thread Cesare Leonardi
On 30/09/2014 03:27, John Hasler wrote: https://wiki.debian.org/FtpMaster/Override So, if i understood correctly, apt reports the correct information, taking care of possible overrides by FTP master. Instead dpkg reports the original intention of the packager but might not reflect the real s

Re: MDADM RAID1 of external USB 3.0 Drives

2014-09-30 Thread Linux-Fan
On 09/30/2014 01:40 AM, lee wrote: [...] > I think I figured it out: The USB stuff was actually going to sleep and > remained unresponsive once it fell asleep, until a reboot. I used > powertop to disable the power management for USB and didn't have any > further issues since. > > It might be w

squeeze-lts problem with debian's keyrings or apt

2014-09-30 Thread Tobias Weiß
Hello world, my apt on squeeze-lts complains that the updates could not be verified. This happens since the updates for apache were made a few days ago. I got the latest keyring package debian, at least I think so: root@web1-tk2:~# dpkg -l | grep keyring ii  debian-archive-keyring  2

Re: Let's have a vote!

2014-09-30 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
On 09/30/2014 08:13, Mart van de Wege wrote: > lee writes: >> Stephen Allen writes: >>> So, Lee why are you even here complaining about Debian - You've admitted >>> you don't use it?! >> >> My server runs on Debian. So technically, I'm using it, and I don't >> feel like I'm using it. >> >> What

Re: How/Where to file a feature request

2014-09-30 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2014 30 Sep 00:36 -0500, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Tuesday 30 September 2014 02:59:54 Chris Bannister wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 12:48:58PM -0400, Philippe Clérié wrote: > > > keyboard] dialog, with the header "Keymap to use:". The first selection > > > in my case is "American English", a

Re: sound recording

2014-09-30 Thread Curt
On 2014-09-29, lee wrote: > > Did you check in alsamixer that the recording is actually turned on? > Just turning up the sliders doesn't suffice, you need to press space at > the right slider (if you can figure out which is the right one) to > toggle recording. Alsmixer will display something lik

Re: Challenge to you: Voice your concerns regarding systemd upstream

2014-09-30 Thread Gian Uberto Lauri
Reco writes: > Hi. > > On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 11:28:55AM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > > > Header files are arch-agnostic, it's the .la files that case all > > > the trouble. > > > > I'm afraid that's not always the case. I've encountered specific cases > > where the headers are differen

Re: fvwm: was i3 sticky/floating windows (brasero requires gvfs)

2014-09-30 Thread Charlie
On Mon, 29 Sep 2014 17:51:41 -0700 Vincent mentioned this: Re: fvwm: was i3 sticky/floating windows (brasero requires gvfs). > On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 2:44 PM, Charlie > wrote: > > > > On Sat, 27 Sep 2014 16:20:27 +0200 lee mentioned this: > > Re: fvwm: was i3 sticky/floa