Debian was not created as a doacracy of package maintainers,
that is a falsehood that the coupists keep repeating. Debian
was created as a universal operating system for the users.
Just as the Free Software movement itself was created NOT
for the developers and package maintainers of the software
o
The mailing list operator has threatened to ban me from the mailing list
because I posted systemd critical opinions which explain precisely what has
occured in debian. This is the debian coup's modus operandi. They see
criticism and then silence it. People keep sending mails to the list but
they ne
Club or not, common law criminal fraud applies.
On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 9:01 PM, Ric Moore wrote:
> On 09/25/2014 02:25 PM, Joel Roth wrote:
>
> I would say that systemd takeover of major Linux distributions
>> and of Debian in particular would be a perfect subject
>> for Groklaw.
>>
>
> How so
First: I hope you are correct. Indeed, it doesn't have solely to do with
init, but this init change to systemd is the straw that brings everything
to the fore.
There is the disregard of the users of debian (who are not just users but
programmers in various free software projects), a betrayal of th
Le 25/09/2014 23:11, Andrei POPESCU a écrit :
> On Jo, 25 sep 14, 21:38:07, James Allsopp wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I'm really cynical about the Systemd concept, but if it looks like it's
>> happening anyway, could we start making a list of recommended tutorials on
>> using it. It would help if people recom
Le 25/09/2014 23:39, Nate Bargmann a écrit :
> Good tips all around. Only thing is that I stopped using screen in
> favor of tmux a few years ago. The biggest aggravation is the loss of
> translation of keys, such as Ctl-left, Ctl-right, etc. (connecting from
> another Debian system is fine). Pe
On 09/25/2014 11:34 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 26/09/14 00:12, Rob Owens wrote:
I tested 'motion' on Wheezy yesterday. It detects motion and takes
still shots, but it is not creating movies out of the still shots.
I have set:
# Use ffmpeg to encode mpeg movies in realtime (default: off)
ffm
On 26/09/14 07:34, lee wrote:
> Darac Marjal writes:
>
>>> On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 03:04:24PM +0200, lee wrote:
>>>
Systemd can handle the boot process from head to toe, without needing
to use any of the existing shell scripts.
>>>
>>> That's how systemd makes the boot process cryptic a
On 26/09/14 00:12, Rob Owens wrote:
> I tested 'motion' on Wheezy yesterday. It detects motion and takes
> still shots, but it is not creating movies out of the still shots.
>
> I have set:
>
> # Use ffmpeg to encode mpeg movies in realtime (default: off)
> ffmpeg_cap_new on
>
> and
>
> # Gap
How I fixed it: I noticed that all the packages with the problem
depended on libgtk2.0-0 whilst none of the ones without the problem did.
And indeed an aptitude reinstall libgtk2.0-0 fixed it!
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The way I see it, Debian is a "do-ocracy" in the sense that if you want
some sort of functionality of the software Debian offers, then you can
write the code and change things. I think what the OP intends by this
thread is that the everyday users of Debian should have been given more of
a say in th
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On 09/25/2014 at 06:09 AM, martin f krafft wrote:
> But dependency creep is unfortunately nothing new ever since we
> declared next year the Year of Linux of the Desktop and forgot
> that the Universal Operating System should also cater to
> non-de
On 26/09/14 01:48, Rob Owens wrote:
> - Original Message -
>> From: "Scott Ferguson"
>>
>> I've been using motion for a few years and highly recommend it.
>> Lightweight[*1], simple, and reliable.
>>
>> Minimal configuration required (snapshot mode):- Point your camera
>> at the zone t
On 25/09/14 03:43, Brian wrote:
> On Wed 24 Sep 2014 at 12:33:35 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
>
>> Look at it this way: If GNU wanted to stick stuff into their compiler
>> to reduce the utility of Linux, they would have done so years ago. They
>> never have. Redhat just did, bigtime.
>
> This is the
On 09/25/2014 06:46 PM, John Hasler wrote:
Ric Moore writes:
You are free to boot Debian and use it...
You are also free to copy it, modify it in any way you wish, and start
your own distribution based on it.
There ya go! You can do as you please. It is, after all, a club. :) Ric
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Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Jo, 25 sep 14, 21:01:30, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Thursday 25 September 2014 19:04:07 Hörmetjan Yiltiz wrote:
even after 2/3 of active
Debian users in this list ask for it?
They haven't. A few of you have. Nothing like two thirds.
Just to put some numbers behind thi
On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 06:52:52PM +0800, corvuscorax wrote:
> Hello! I have trouble in installing driver of my wifi card..
> (My computer is "DELL Inpiron 14 5000 Series", the Os is debian 3.16.2. The
> wifi card should be Intel AC 3160..I think)
>
> I can't see my wifi card by using "lspci ",
>
Martin Steigerwald writes:
>> Am Donnerstag, 25. September 2014, 01:45:50 schrieb lee:
>>
>> Fedora does already depend on systemd --- and I would say completely.
>> Or do you see a choice here?
>
> And exactly *how* is this relevant to Debian?
It is an example for how a distribution can or will
Jonathan Dowland writes:
> On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 02:40:31PM +0200, lee wrote:
>> what might be the reason for exim4 taking ages (i. e. minutes) to start
>> when booting? The boot process keeps waiting until exim has started.
>
> What init system are you using?
the default init system of Wheez
On Thu, 25 Sep 2014 23:34:41 +0300
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Jo, 25 sep 14, 21:27:30, Joel Rees wrote:
> >
> > There is always that possibility. It's one of the reasons for the
> > old adage, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaizen
Kaizen means "good change"
Darac Marjal writes:
>> On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 03:04:24PM +0200, lee wrote:
>>
>> > Systemd can handle the boot process from head to toe, without needing
>> > to use any of the existing shell scripts.
>>
>> That's how systemd makes the boot process cryptic and non-debuggable.
>
> If you can un
Brian writes:
> On Sun 21 Sep 2014 at 21:01:17 +0200, lee wrote:
>
>> Brian writes:
>>
>> > On Sun 21 Sep 2014 at 14:40:31 +0200, lee wrote:
>> >
>> >> what might be the reason for exim4 taking ages (i. e. minutes) to start
>> >> when booting? The boot process keeps waiting until exim has star
Sven Hartge writes:
> lee wrote:
>> Sven Hartge writes:
>>> lee wrote:
>
what might be the reason for exim4 taking ages (i. e. minutes) to
start when booting? The boot process keeps waiting until exim has
started.
>>>
>>> Maybe the network is not up or the nameserver is not res
On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 03:15:36PM -0700, koanhead wrote:
> can't use.
>
> I brought this up once on #offtopic and was told that sysvinit doesn't
> work on bsds (that's a paraphrase using the same words, not a quote) and
> then ridiculed.
It's not that sysvinit doesn't work on bsds, it might, it
On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 09:45:24PM +0200, Alex Andreotti wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 09:33:50PM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:
> > On 2014-09-25 21:10 +0200, Alex Andreotti wrote:
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > is there a way to get a .deb of chromium >= 37.0.2062.117 on arch
> > > i386? (unstable
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On 09/25/2014 02:01 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Jo, 25 sep 14, 14:28:19, Hörmetjan Yiltiz wrote:
>> I hope you all can realize how much I do NOT want to open yet
>> again another issue on #NotSystemd topic.
>
> No.
>
>> Seeing that the issue is st
Ric Moore writes:
> You are free to boot Debian and use it...
You are also free to copy it, modify it in any way you wish, and start
your own distribution based on it.
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Am 25.09.2014 um 22:46 schrieb Andrei POPESCU:
> On Jo, 25 sep 14, 18:30:53, Michael Biebl wrote:
>> Am 25.09.2014 um 17:30 schrieb Steve Litt:
>>> Disable lightdm and you'll start seeing the messages. The right way is
>>> to put an exit command early in the lightdm config file. The easy way
>>
>>
On Thu 25 Sep 2014 at 20:48:59 +0300, Lars Noodén wrote:
> On 09/25/2014 08:28 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
> >First, how confident are you that this is *only* in Xfce, and not in
> >LXDE and Openbox and who knows what other window managers? Perhaps it's
> >an X thing, plain and simple.
>
> There are st
On 09/25/2014 03:30 AM, martin f krafft wrote:
...
> the Universal Operating System should also cater to non-desktops.
>
And not only to other-than-desktop, but also to ports and architectures
other than i386/amd64.
I don't have a problem with systemd per se. I have used it before on
Fedora cont
On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 5:34 AM, Andrei POPESCU
wrote:
> On Jo, 25 sep 14, 21:27:30, Joel Rees wrote:
>>
>> There is always that possibility. It's one of the reasons for the old
>> adage, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaizen
Sigh.
Andrei, I would be the last
On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 08:48:59PM +0300, Lars Noodén wrote:
> On 09/25/2014 08:28 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
> >First, how confident are you that this is *only* in Xfce, and not in
> >LXDE and Openbox and who knows what other window managers? Perhaps it's
> >an X thing, plain and simple.
>
> There are
Stephen Allen wrote:
> Deservedly so, in my opinion. I'm sure the silent majority are as sick
> as I am of several people beating this dead horse to death. Most Linux
> distributions are DoCractic, those that do the work, make the rules.
Not to mention drive-by attacks on development communication
On Fri 26 Sep 2014 at 00:11:04 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Jo, 25 sep 14, 21:38:07, James Allsopp wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I'm really cynical about the Systemd concept, but if it looks like it's
> > happening anyway, could we start making a list of recommended tutorials on
> > using it. It would h
On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 05:01:03PM -0400, Ric Moore wrote:
> On 09/25/2014 02:25 PM, Joel Roth wrote:
>
> >I would say that systemd takeover of major Linux distributions
> >and of Debian in particular would be a perfect subject
> >for Groklaw.
>
> How so?? Legally, Debian has the legal stance of
On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 02:13:11AM +0800, Hörmetjan Yiltiz wrote:
> But still, since systemd was the default, a tendency in choosing the
> default plays such a major role that you may even not realize. A systematic
> research involving default effect is here:
> Isaac Dinner et. al., 2011, Partition
Good tips all around. Only thing is that I stopped using screen in
favor of tmux a few years ago. The biggest aggravation is the loss of
translation of keys, such as Ctl-left, Ctl-right, etc. (connecting from
another Debian system is fine). Perhaps that is a PuTTY issue or I
don't have tmux conf
I suspect that historians will say fork has already occurred.
I suspect it will have little to do with init this versus init that.
Owl *DUCKS* 4 cover ;/
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On 09/25/2014 12:56 PM, Gregory Smith wrote:
The debian developers did NOT select systemd. 4 people decided on
systemd in a technical committee, a split decision, which happened to be
decided by a vote from a chairman. There was no general resolution.
Bringing this non technical issue to the tech
On Jo, 25 sep 14, 21:38:07, James Allsopp wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm really cynical about the Systemd concept, but if it looks like it's
> happening anyway, could we start making a list of recommended tutorials on
> using it. It would help if people recommending the tutorials had
> successfully followed th
Stephen Powell:
>
> In another post a couple of months ago (see
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/07/msg00592.html) I gave some
> recommendations for optimal PuTTY settings for use with Debian hosts.
> I'd like to follow up on that based on recent discoveries that I have made.
…
> I hop
On 09/25/2014 02:25 PM, Joel Roth wrote:
I would say that systemd takeover of major Linux distributions
and of Debian in particular would be a perfect subject
for Groklaw.
How so?? Legally, Debian has the legal stance of a "Club". It is not a
for-profit with Corporate Responsibilities towards
On Jo, 25 sep 14, 21:01:30, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Thursday 25 September 2014 19:04:07 Hörmetjan Yiltiz wrote:
> > even after 2/3 of active
> > Debian users in this list ask for it?
>
> They haven't. A few of you have. Nothing like two thirds.
Just to put some numbers behind this: according to
On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 04:17:54PM -0400, Bob Weber wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 09:33:50PM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:
> >> On 2014-09-25 21:10 +0200, Alex Andreotti wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hello,
> >>>
> >>> is there a way to get a .deb of chromium >= 37.0.2062.117 on arch
> >>> i386? (unstable/sid
On Thu 25 Sep 2014 at 23:46:15 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Jo, 25 sep 14, 18:30:53, Michael Biebl wrote:
> > Am 25.09.2014 um 17:30 schrieb Steve Litt:
> > > Disable lightdm and you'll start seeing the messages. The right way is
> > > to put an exit command early in the lightdm config file.
Hi,
I'm really cynical about the Systemd concept, but if it looks like it's
happening anyway, could we start making a list of recommended tutorials on
using it. It would help if people recommending the tutorials had
successfully followed them themselves.
Yes, I could use Google, but it's a bit lac
On Jo, 25 sep 14, 18:30:53, Michael Biebl wrote:
> Am 25.09.2014 um 17:30 schrieb Steve Litt:
> > Disable lightdm and you'll start seeing the messages. The right way is
> > to put an exit command early in the lightdm config file. The easy way
>
> That's actually entirely the wrong way to disable a
Your posts were massively over the top, so I not surprised you got banned.
Thanks for flagging up that debian forum, it's gone beneath my radar up to
now!
On 25 September 2014 20:46, Stephen Allen
wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 09:51:38AM -0700, Gregory Smith wrote:
> > I was just banned from
On Jo, 25 sep 14, 21:27:30, Joel Rees wrote:
>
> There is always that possibility. It's one of the reasons for the old
> adage, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaizen
Kind regards,
Andrei
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On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 09:33:50PM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:
>> On 2014-09-25 21:10 +0200, Alex Andreotti wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> is there a way to get a .deb of chromium >= 37.0.2062.117 on arch
>>> i386? (unstable/sid)
>>> (if need to be built it is ok if there's a debian/rules)
>> Since t
On Thursday 25 September 2014 19:04:07 Hörmetjan Yiltiz wrote:
> even after 2/3 of active
> Debian users in this list ask for it?
They haven't. A few of you have. Nothing like two thirds.
Lisi
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On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 09:51:38AM -0700, Gregory Smith wrote:
> I was just banned from debian forum for posting a systemd critical message.
>
> I posted the message found here:
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/09/msg01834.html
>
> It was deleted twice and then:
>
> You have been *per
On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 09:43:22AM -0400, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote:
> Am calling this a "cognitive friendly" systemd graphic because it is for me:
>
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Systemd_components.svg
>
> It and any similar I find soon will be what I primarily lean on to
> follow conver
On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 09:33:50PM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:
> On 2014-09-25 21:10 +0200, Alex Andreotti wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > is there a way to get a .deb of chromium >= 37.0.2062.117 on arch
> > i386? (unstable/sid)
> > (if need to be built it is ok if there's a debian/rules)
>
> Since
On 2014-09-25 21:10 +0200, Alex Andreotti wrote:
> Hello,
>
> is there a way to get a .deb of chromium >= 37.0.2062.117 on arch
> i386? (unstable/sid)
> (if need to be built it is ok if there's a debian/rules)
Since the package FTBFS on the buildd, your only chance is to build from
source. Whic
On Thu, 9/25/14, Gregory Smith wrote:
Subject: Re: Let's have a vote! I was just banned from debian forum for
posting a systemd critical message.
To: "row...@ptd.net"
Cc: "debian-user@lists.debian.org"
Date: Thursday, September 25, 2014, 11:51 AM
I was just banned from debian forum for
Hello,
is there a way to get a .deb of chromium >= 37.0.2062.117 on arch
i386? (unstable/sid)
(if need to be built it is ok if there's a debian/rules)
The cpu is an amd64 (with sse2 support) but I've the system installed
as i386.
Thanks in advance
Cheers
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Hörmetjan Yiltiz writes:
> So what you mean, is the decision was a result of "coup", and do not
> believe that another vote could be possible, even after 2/3 of active
> Debian users in this list ask for it?
No, the decision was not the result of a "coup" and yes, a GR could
overturn it. Since th
Indeed it is. Thanks for the notice!
Paul
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On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 07:52:33AM -0700, Gregory Smith wrote:
> And the answer is no!
> Of course.
>
> The debian founding documents state that debian was created for the benefit
> of the user.
> (The premise of the whole free software movement is the rights of the user:
> the developers rights a
On Thu 25 Sep 2014 at 17:07:02 +0200, Paul Anzel wrote:
> Okay, got it.
>
> Any precautions I should take in the meantime? I have the "bash -> dash"
> thing already, but the string test still marks me as vulnerable.
It's probably in Jessie by now.
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Brian wrote on 09/25/2014 02:08:15 PM:
> From: Brian
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Date: 09/25/2014 02:08 PM
> Subject: Re: Bash Code Injection Vulnerability via Specially Crafted
> Environment Variables (CVE-2014-6271)
>
> On Thu 25 Sep 2014 at 13:59:40 -0400, Joe Loiacono wrote:
>
> >
So what you mean, is the decision was a result of "coup", and do not
believe that another vote could be possible, even after 2/3 of active
Debian users in this list ask for it?
祝好，
He who is worthy to receive his days and nights is worthy to receive* all
else* from you (an
But still, since systemd was the default, a tendency in choosing the
default plays such a major role that you may even not realize. A systematic
research involving default effect is here:
Isaac Dinner et. al., 2011, Partitioning Default Effects: Why People Choose
Not to Choose, J of Experimental Ps
On Thursday, September 25, 2014 13:59:40 Joe Loiacono wrote:
> By default I have seemingly assumed sysadmin duties for a host running
> Debian 6.0.7 (squeeze). So (not having done a lot of this before) ...
>
>
> 1) the system bash is vulnerable
>
> > env x='() { :;}; echo vulnerable' bash -c "
On Thu 25 Sep 2014 at 13:59:40 -0400, Joe Loiacono wrote:
> By default I have seemingly assumed sysadmin duties for a host running
> Debian 6.0.7 (squeeze). So (not having done a lot of this before) ...
https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/Using
https://wiki.debian.org/LTS
https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/FAQ
On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 11:30:43AM -0400, Mark Kamichoff wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 08:55:51AM +0100, Karl E. Jorgensen wrote:
> > Perhaps one of the recent libc upgrades have changed the default for
> > 'ndots' ?
> >
> > If so, according to a quick scan of the resolv.conf(5) manual page you
By default I have seemingly assumed sysadmin duties for a host running
Debian 6.0.7 (squeeze). So (not having done a lot of this before) ...
1) the system bash is vulnerable
> env x='() { :;}; echo vulnerable' bash -c "echo this is a test"
vulnerable
this is a test
2) bash is version 4.1.5
h
On 09/25/2014 08:28 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
First, how confident are you that this is *only* in Xfce, and not in
LXDE and Openbox and who knows what other window managers? Perhaps it's
an X thing, plain and simple.
There are still some configuration options I have missed that are needed
to try L
op 25-09-14 19:20, Steve Litt schreef:
> On Thu, 25 Sep 2014 18:08:42 +0200
> Paul van der Vlis wrote:
>
>> op 25-09-14 17:30, Steve Litt schreef:
>>> On Thu, 25 Sep 2014 13:04:59 +0200
>>> Paul van der Vlis wrote:
>>>
Hello,
I am using Wheezy, and on some machines I see messages
On Thu, 25 Sep 2014 20:08:54 +0300
Lars Noodén wrote:
> In XFCE4, on Jessie, I am getting a display resolution of 1400x1050
> instead of 1680x1050. If I go to the XFCE Menu -> Settings ->
> Display, it gives me only a single choice, that of 1400x1050, not
> higher or lower.
>
> xrandr seems to
On Thu, 25 Sep 2014 18:08:42 +0200
Paul van der Vlis wrote:
> op 25-09-14 17:30, Steve Litt schreef:
> > On Thu, 25 Sep 2014 13:04:59 +0200
> > Paul van der Vlis wrote:
> >
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I am using Wheezy, and on some machines I see messages from
> >> starting services while booting, an
On one of my machines scim does not work in chromium, firefox, and
midori. Hitting CTRL+SPACE does nothing.
It works in abiword, xterm and emacs though.
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The debian developers did NOT select systemd. 4 people decided on systemd
in a technical committee, a split decision, which happened to be decided by
a vote from a chairman. There was no general resolution. Bringing this non
technical issue to the technical committee in the first place was an abuse
I was just banned from debian forum for posting a systemd critical message.
I posted the message found here:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/09/msg01834.html
It was deleted twice and then:
You have been *permanently* banned from this board.
Please contact the Board Administrator for
In XFCE4, on Jessie, I am getting a display resolution of 1400x1050
instead of 1680x1050. If I go to the XFCE Menu -> Settings -> Display,
it gives me only a single choice, that of 1400x1050, not higher or lower.
xrandr seems to be able to see the maximum resolution:
$ xrandr
xrandr: Failed t
- Original Message -
> From: "Bob McGowan"
>
> On 9/25/14, 7:12 AM, "Rob Owens" wrote:
>
> >I tested 'motion' on Wheezy yesterday. It detects motion and takes still
> >shots, but it is not creating movies out of the still shots.
> >
> >I have set:
> >
> ># Use ffmpeg to encode mpeg mov
- Original Message -
> From: "Cindy-Sue Causey"
>
> I can't help you with "motion" but I had a thought as I was reading
> your predicament.. OpenShot will produce an mpeg video output of
> multiple images if you find yourself up against a deadline or
> something and need an alternative.
>
Am Donnerstag, 25. September 2014, 12:09:20 schrieb martin f krafft:
> also sprach lee [2014-09-25 01:45 +0200]:
> > Just one day they might wake up and find out that it was a very
> > bad idea to depend on systemd, and then it'll be difficult to do
> > without.
>
> That day was yesterday. I'll l
Am 25.09.2014 um 17:30 schrieb Steve Litt:
> Disable lightdm and you'll start seeing the messages. The right way is
> to put an exit command early in the lightdm config file. The easy way
That's actually entirely the wrong way to disable a (SysV) init script.
Please use
invoke-rc.d lightdm disabl
op 25-09-14 16:41, Sven Joachim schreef:
> On 2014-09-25 13:04 +0200, Paul van der Vlis wrote:
>
>> I am using Wheezy, and on some machines I see messages from starting
>> services while booting, and on some machines I don't see them.
>>
>> Can somebody explain me how this works? I have the idea t
On 9/25/14, Rob Owens wrote:
> I tested 'motion' on Wheezy yesterday. It detects motion and takes still
> shots, but it is not creating movies out of the still shots.
>
> I have set:
>
> # Use ffmpeg to encode mpeg movies in realtime (default: off)
> ffmpeg_cap_new on
>
> and
>
> # Gap is the sec
op 25-09-14 17:30, Steve Litt schreef:
> On Thu, 25 Sep 2014 13:04:59 +0200
> Paul van der Vlis wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am using Wheezy, and on some machines I see messages from starting
>> services while booting, and on some machines I don't see them.
>>
>> Can somebody explain me how this wo
On Thu, 25 Sep 2014 16:55:29 +0100
Martin Read wrote:
> On 25/09/14 16:40, Steve Litt wrote:
> > "Let's wait for a good alternative, and in the meantime keep
> > sysvinit" is a lot different than "let's keep sysvinit
> > (indefinitely)".
>
> Voting "let's keep sysvinit *in jessie*" says *exactly
On 9/25/14, 7:12 AM, "Rob Owens" wrote:
>I tested 'motion' on Wheezy yesterday. It detects motion and takes still
>shots, but it is not creating movies out of the still shots.
>
>I have set:
>
># Use ffmpeg to encode mpeg movies in realtime (default: off)
>ffmpeg_cap_new on
>
>and
>
># Gap is th
On 25/09/14 16:40, Steve Litt wrote:
"Let's wait for a good alternative, and in the meantime keep sysvinit"
is a lot different than "let's keep sysvinit (indefinitely)".
Voting "let's keep sysvinit *in jessie*" says *exactly nothing* about
the init system in jessie+1.
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On Thu, 25 Sep 2014 15:46:56 +0200
Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 25. September 2014, 01:45:50 schrieb lee:
> > Martin Steigerwald writes:
> > > Am Montag, 22. September 2014, 23:50:46 schrieb lee:
> > >> Martin Steigerwald writes:
> > >>
> > >> Do you really think they will be abl
- Original Message -
> From: "Scott Ferguson"
>
> I've been using motion for a few years and highly recommend it.
> Lightweight[*1], simple, and reliable.
>
> Minimal configuration required (snapshot mode):-
> Point your camera at the zone to be monitored.
> Take a picture.
> Edit the pi
On Thu, 25 Sep 2014 16:09:52 +0100
Martin Read wrote:
> On 25/09/14 15:42, Rob Owens wrote:
> > I agree that "let's wait until we have a good init to move to"
> > should have been more seriously considered, but for some reason
> > people were in a big hurry to make a move.
>
> The vote held was
On Thu, 25 Sep 2014 13:04:59 +0200
Paul van der Vlis wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am using Wheezy, and on some machines I see messages from starting
> services while booting, and on some machines I don't see them.
>
> Can somebody explain me how this works? I have the idea that I don't
> see messages
- Original Message -
> From: "Martin Read"
>
> On 25/09/14 15:42, Rob Owens wrote:
> > I agree that "let's wait until we have a good init to move to" should have
> > been more seriously considered, but for some reason people were in a big
> > hurry to make a move.
>
> The vote held was "
Okay, got it.
Any precautions I should take in the meantime? I have the "bash -> dash"
thing already, but the string test still marks me as vulnerable.
Thanks,
Paul
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On 09/24/2014 at 04:52 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> Bash Code Injection Vulnerability via Specially Crafted
> Environment Variables (CVE-2014-6271)
>
> https://access.redhat.com/articles/1200223
>
> My current Debian setup is vulnerab
On 25/09/14 15:42, Rob Owens wrote:
I agree that "let's wait until we have a good init to move to" should have been
more seriously considered, but for some reason people were in a big hurry to make a move.
The vote held was "What should the default init system *in jessie* be?".
Given that as
On 25/09/14 12:09, martin f krafft wrote:
But dependency creep is unfortunately nothing new ever since we
declared next year the Year of Linux of the Desktop and forgot that
the Universal Operating System should also cater to non-desktops.
Exactly.
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And the answer is no!
Of course.
The debian founding documents state that debian was created for the benefit
of the user.
(The premise of the whole free software movement is the rights of the user:
the developers rights are clearly best served by the standard proprietary
copyright regime)
We are t
Ahoj,
Dňa Thu, 25 Sep 2014 10:42:58 -0400 (EDT) Rob Owens
napísal:
> - Original Message -
> > From: "Steve Litt"
> >
> > On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 13:13:51 -0400 (EDT)
> > Rob Owens wrote:
> >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > > From: "The Wanderer"
> > > >
> > > > On 09/22/2014 a
On 24/09/14 23:43, Rob Owens wrote:
> I need to set up a couple usb cameras to record video based on motion
> detection. I prefer ease of setup to a large feature set, since this
> is expected to be only temporary. I want to only record when there
> is motion, so I don't have hours of footage to
- Original Message -
> From: "Steve Litt"
>
> On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 13:13:51 -0400 (EDT)
> Rob Owens wrote:
>
> > - Original Message -
> > > From: "The Wanderer"
> > >
> > > On 09/22/2014 at 06:54 AM, Darac Marjal wrote:
> > >
> > > Those are votes for Debian, but not for syste
On 2014-09-25 13:04 +0200, Paul van der Vlis wrote:
> I am using Wheezy, and on some machines I see messages from starting
> services while booting, and on some machines I don't see them.
>
> Can somebody explain me how this works? I have the idea that I don't see
> messages on fast machines.
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