Re: Gnome for jessie

2014-08-16 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 16 August 2014 23:33:54 Charlie wrote: > That's also what I thought? But I assume this thread is pertaining to > the person who installs the software through the installer. Rather than > just a bare bones Debian without any GUI that will boot. Then through > CLI just install the softwar

Re: systemd fails to poweroff - "A stop job is running for Session 2 of user $USER"

2014-08-16 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20140814_1035-0400, Tom H wrote: > On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 1:04 AM, Paul E Condon > wrote: > > > > In English, both 'stop job' and 'stopped job' are an adjective > > modifying a noun. The noun in both cases is 'job'. 'stop job' is a > > noun phrase expressing a type of job, and must be some kin

Re: New 64-bit Install: Wine

2014-08-16 Thread Floris
> > What wine packages do you have installed? > > wine > wine64 > wine32:i386 Tried that. I do not know about the firefox setup but no .exe's I had around would take. I also go rid of the ~/.wine. Wine-cfg also barked. Just to be sure you have a clean environment, you might want to try cr

Re: Gnome for jessie

2014-08-16 Thread Charlie
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 21:32:23 +0100 Lisi Reisz sent: > > Here's an idea: Why not give users a choice (if they want it) after > > they have installed the OS? Or even before? Installation of a > > desktop environment shouldn't be obligatory. > > It isn't. > > Lisi That's also what I thought? But

Re: Anybody know who user-65534 is?

2014-08-16 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 16.08.2014 23:54, schrieb Joe: > Aug 16 00:02:03 jresid systemd[2913]: systemd-exit.service: main > process exited, code=exited, status=200/CHDIR > Aug 16 00:02:03 jresid systemd[2913]: Failed to start Exit the Session. Apparently that service failed with exit code 200 / CHDIR. src/core/exec

Re: Gnome for jessie

2014-08-16 Thread Joe
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 22:57:17 +0100 Brian wrote: > On Sat 16 Aug 2014 at 21:32:23 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > On Saturday 16 August 2014 20:24:31 Brian wrote: > > > On Sat 16 Aug 2014 at 14:14:01 -0400, John Holland wrote: > > > > Enlightenment is actually a very nice DE with reasonable > > >

Re: Gnome for jessie

2014-08-16 Thread Brian
On Sat 16 Aug 2014 at 21:32:23 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Saturday 16 August 2014 20:24:31 Brian wrote: > > On Sat 16 Aug 2014 at 14:14:01 -0400, John Holland wrote: > > > Enlightenment is actually a very nice DE with reasonable hardware > > > requirements. It'd be nice to have it as an option

Re: Anybody know who user-65534 is?

2014-08-16 Thread Joe
On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 21:39:03 +0100 Joe wrote: > > This is a can of worms, and I hereby abandon it. OK, I lied. I was bored... A little further on... journald *has* been keeping persistent journals, but with different user permissions, now root:systemd-journal 640. journalctl still shows entr

Re: Gnome for jessie

2014-08-16 Thread Brian
On Sat 16 Aug 2014 at 17:27:27 -0400, Gary Dale wrote: > On 16/08/14 02:56 PM, Brian wrote: > >On Sat 16 Aug 2014 at 19:01:40 +0200, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > > > >>On 16/08/14 18:28, Gary Dale wrote: > >>>The installer, to my way of thinking, should either go with the most > >>>popular choice or

Re: Gnome for jessie

2014-08-16 Thread Gary Dale
On 16/08/14 02:56 PM, Brian wrote: On Sat 16 Aug 2014 at 19:01:40 +0200, Tony van der Hoff wrote: On 16/08/14 18:28, Gary Dale wrote: The installer, to my way of thinking, should either go with the most popular choice or give you the choice of desktop environments as part of the install proces

Re: Gnome for jessie

2014-08-16 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 16 August 2014 20:24:31 Brian wrote: > On Sat 16 Aug 2014 at 14:14:01 -0400, John Holland wrote: > > Enlightenment is actually a very nice DE with reasonable hardware > > requirements. It'd be nice to have it as an option in the installer. > > fvwm is wonderful, but not likely to make i

Re: Gnome for jessie

2014-08-16 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 16 August 2014 19:14:01 John Holland wrote: > Enlightenment is actually a very nice DE with reasonable hardware > requirements. It'd be nice to have it as an option in the installer. Sorry, I left that one out. It was in the etc.! I knew that I had not got a complete list. But the

Re: Gnome for jessie

2014-08-16 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 16 August 2014 18:01:40 Tony van der Hoff wrote: > Anyway, I think the installer should offer *all* the DEs. *All*, including Mate and Cinnamon and Trinity and Unity, in addition to Gnome, KDE, LXDE, Xfce, and . etc. ?? Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@list

Re: Gnome for jessie

2014-08-16 Thread Brian
On Sat 16 Aug 2014 at 14:14:01 -0400, John Holland wrote: > Enlightenment is actually a very nice DE with reasonable hardware > requirements. It'd be nice to have it as an option in the installer. fvwm is wonderful, but not likely to make it into d-i. Back in 1996 it was a default (on Red Hat at

Re: Gnome for jessie

2014-08-16 Thread Brian
On Sat 16 Aug 2014 at 19:01:40 +0200, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > On 16/08/14 18:28, Gary Dale wrote: > > > > The installer, to my way of thinking, should either go with the most > > popular choice or give you the choice of desktop environments as part of > > the install process. > > > I'm fully

Re: Gnome for jessie

2014-08-16 Thread John Holland
Enlightenment is actually a very nice DE with reasonable hardware requirements. It'd be nice to have it as an option in the installer. On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 13:28:56 -0400 (EDT) Stephen Powell wrote: > On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 13:03:54 -0400 (EDT), Michael Biebl wrote: > > On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 11:00:10

Re: Gnome for jessie

2014-08-16 Thread Martin Read
On 16/08/14 17:49, Steve Litt wrote: On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 11:00:10 -0400 (EDT) Stephen Powell wrote: My main objection to GNOME as the default desktop environment is that it *requires* 3D graphics acceleration from the X driver, something which is not available from all drivers. (For example, t

Re: Gnome for jessie

2014-08-16 Thread Joe
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 12:49:23 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 11:00:10 -0400 (EDT) > Stephen Powell wrote: > > > On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 22:56:53 -0400 (EDT), Stephen L. Novak wrote: > > > > > > I'm only submitting that I would vote to see gnome as the default > > > interface for jess

Re: Gnome for jessie

2014-08-16 Thread Stephen Powell
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 13:03:54 -0400 (EDT), Michael Biebl wrote: > On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 11:00:10 -0400 (EDT), Stephen Powell wrote: >> >> My main objection to GNOME as the default desktop environment is >> that it *requires* 3D graphics acceleration from the X driver, >> ... > > Not quite true. On g

Re: make "apt-get install $PKG" work like gentoo?

2014-08-16 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 03:00:59 +1000 Zenaan Harkness wrote: > I'm wondering if "apt-get install" could be set up to compile from > source and install that (sort of automatically), rather than install > the binary? apt-get, to my best knowledge, can not be used for this. There's tool called a

Re: Gnome for jessie

2014-08-16 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 16.08.2014 17:00, schrieb Stephen Powell: > On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 22:56:53 -0400 (EDT), Stephen L. Novak wrote: >> >> I'm only submitting that I would vote to see gnome as the default >> interface for jessie too. Also, I would vote change the default >> highlighter for some of the default menus i

Re: Gnome for jessie

2014-08-16 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 16/08/14 18:28, Gary Dale wrote: > I've never been a fan of Gnome although this stems mainly from my > preference for Konqueror and Dolphin as file managers. They both have > options that I find very helpful, like actually listing the files you > are about to delete instead of just telling you h

make "apt-get install $PKG" work like gentoo?

2014-08-16 Thread Zenaan Harkness
I've never used gentoo sorry. I'm wondering if "apt-get install" could be set up to compile from source and install that (sort of automatically), rather than install the binary? Due to admining a number of machines for a small non profit human rights association (and a few personal boxen for myse

Re: Gnome for jessie

2014-08-16 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 11:00:10 -0400 (EDT) Stephen Powell wrote: > On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 22:56:53 -0400 (EDT), Stephen L. Novak wrote: > > > > I'm only submitting that I would vote to see gnome as the default > > interface for jessie too. Also, I would vote change the default > > highlighter for so

Re: Gnome for jessie

2014-08-16 Thread Gary Dale
On 16/08/14 11:00 AM, Stephen Powell wrote: On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 22:56:53 -0400 (EDT), Stephen L. Novak wrote: I'm only submitting that I would vote to see gnome as the default interface for jessie too. Also, I would vote change the default highlighter for some of the default menus in the new Xf

Busybox: compile statically?

2014-08-16 Thread antispammbox-debian
Hi all How to compile busybox in static mode, adding some utility different from the usual, -dd, cat, other,... -, example, partimage, with all the dependencies, compress it, and install on a usb stick? Thanks Regards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: FW: hp server hardware monitoring

2014-08-16 Thread Florian Ernst
On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 09:30:24PM +, Bonno Bloksma wrote: > [...] > > My apologies, I forgot that you need a newer version of > > cciss_vol_status than present in Squeeze/Wheezy. For that I had > > imported 1.10-1 into our local repository, which works just fine > > without any adjustments /

Re: Re: Anybody know who user-65534 is?

2014-08-16 Thread Joel Rees
On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 7:59 PM, david wrote: > I.m starting to get the picture but we have moved away from what I think was > the prime motive for this trhead to be started. > > User 65534 is causing a frustrating 90 - 120 second delay during shutdown. > That's 6 to 9 hrs a year! > > Can this del

Re: Gnome for jessie

2014-08-16 Thread Stephen Powell
On Fri, 15 Aug 2014 22:56:53 -0400 (EDT), Stephen L. Novak wrote: > > I'm only submitting that I would vote to see gnome as the default > interface for jessie too. Also, I would vote change the default > highlighter for some of the default menus in the new Xfce to a brighter > color. Thanks for

Re: Render lag/delay on Testing

2014-08-16 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Jonas Lippuner wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Debian users, Ever since the xserver on Debian Testing was upgraded to 1.16 (and after the issue with the lacking Nvidia driver was fixed), I've been having rendering issues. Sometimes (it randomly comes and goes), some win

Re: Anybody know who user-65534 is?

2014-08-16 Thread AW
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 12:59:24 +0200 david wrote: > Can this delay be eliminated? After all it did not used to happen before > systemd was implemented. OP is running Sid. So there are problems with stability in the unstable version of Debian... and? ... Oh well. ps -u 65534 will show any ra

Re: Anybody know who user-65534 is?

2014-08-16 Thread John Hasler
david writes: > User 65534 is causing a frustrating 90 - 120 second delay during > shutdown. Some process that happens to be running as "nobody" is failing to exit when instructed to do so. Systemd is waiting patiently for 90 seconds before sending it a "kill -9". You need to either find that pr

Re: Jessie won't install

2014-08-16 Thread Francesco Ariis
On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 02:24:53PM +0200, Diogene Laerce wrote: > Jessie (last testing version) does not want to install in a VM. It just > get stucked If it regards Jessie, probably debian-testing [1] is a better place where to post it. [1] https://lists.debian.org/debian-testing/ -- To UNSUB

Jessie won't install

2014-08-16 Thread Diogene Laerce
Hi, Jessie (last testing version) does not want to install in a VM. It just get stucked at "select and install software" with "installation failed you can skip it and choose something else if you want". Anybody had the same issue and solved it ? Thank you, -- “One original thought is worth a t

Re: Anybody know who user-65534 is?

2014-08-16 Thread Joel Rees
On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 6:36 PM, Reco wrote: > On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 08:17:50 +0100 > Joe wrote: > >> I have /usr/sbin/nologin also. This is up-to-date sid with systemd, >> which may not have the same defaults as previous distributions. > > Curious. And what shell do they set now for users with uid

Re: Re: Anybody know who user-65534 is?

2014-08-16 Thread david
I.m starting to get the picture but we have moved away from what I think was the prime motive for this trhead to be started. User 65534 is causing a frustrating 90 - 120 second delay during shutdown. That's 6 to 9 hrs a year! Can this delay be eliminated? After all it did not used to happen bef

Re: Anybody know who user-65534 is?

2014-08-16 Thread Joel Rees
On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 6:51 PM, Michael Biebl wrote: > Am 16.08.2014 11:36, schrieb Reco: >> On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 08:17:50 +0100 >> Joe wrote: >> >>> I have /usr/sbin/nologin also. This is up-to-date sid with systemd, >>> which may not have the same defaults as previous distributions. >> >> Curio

Re: Anybody know who user-65534 is?

2014-08-16 Thread Reco
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 11:51:28 +0200 Michael Biebl wrote: > base-passwd (3.5.30) unstable; urgency=medium > > [ Colin Watson ] > .. > * Change the shell of all global static users other than root (which > retains /bin/sh) and sync (as /bin/sync is rather harmless) to > /usr/sbin/nologi

Re: Anybody know who user-65534 is?

2014-08-16 Thread Michael Biebl
Am 16.08.2014 11:36, schrieb Reco: > On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 08:17:50 +0100 > Joe wrote: > >> I have /usr/sbin/nologin also. This is up-to-date sid with systemd, >> which may not have the same defaults as previous distributions. > > Curious. And what shell do they set now for users with uid < 100? >

Re: Anybody know who user-65534 is?

2014-08-16 Thread Reco
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 08:17:50 +0100 Joe wrote: > I have /usr/sbin/nologin also. This is up-to-date sid with systemd, > which may not have the same defaults as previous distributions. Curious. And what shell do they set now for users with uid < 100? I've checked more-or-less fresh testing with sy

Re: Gnome for jessie

2014-08-16 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 10:56:53PM -0400, Stephen L. Novak wrote: > > > I'm only submitting that I would vote to see gnome as the default > interface for jessie too. Your vote has no affect whatsoever on what the default DE will be. The only way you can influence the decision is to install popu

Re: Anybody know who user-65534 is?

2014-08-16 Thread Joe
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 10:00:08 +0400 Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 00:44:31 +0200 > david wrote: > > > I have been bothered by this too. > > > > KUser shows this user as "nobody" whose home directory is > > "/nonexistent" and whose login shell is /usr/sbin/nologin. > > > > The ac