Brian wrote:
> Richard Owlett wrote:
> > It would more resemble "Who pulls which string when?"
> > In one iteration of my experiments I had been burned by not adding
> > "exec openbox" as last line of xinitrc.
The man page for xinit says:
An important point is that programs which are run b
Hi Paul,
Paul E Condon wrote:
> I have been cleaning up old email files and in the process created a
> mess I have several mail directories containing emails from different
> times and collected under slightly different operating condition. I
> want to merge them into a single directory with the e
On Ma, 12 aug 14, 14:10:52, pe...@easthope.ca wrote:
> Squeeze, with kernel linux-image-2.6.32-5-686, is working on
> an old Compaq Armada E500. The wheezy installer gave a black
> screen.
>
> According to apt and aptitude, linux-image-2.6-686-pae and
> linux-image-3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae are av
I adopted Mr. Gyorgy's suggested iptables rules with only a
couple of additions based on nmap's report that port 411 was open
because it passed with flying colors nmaps tcp and udp scan of the
first 1056 ports, grc.com tests and pcflank.com tests.
For a single user system running no service
On 8/12/14, Harry Putnam wrote:
> Zenaan Harkness writes:
>> Use getmail.
>>
>> I have used mpop. getmail maintainer lurks around here, so that's what
>> I'm planning to use when I next stop pop DLing.
>
> No thanks. Fetchmail should be working. I really doubt that
> fetchmail itself is the pro
On Tue, 12 Aug 2014, Brian wrote:
> On Tue 12 Aug 2014 at 09:15:59 -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 12 Aug 2014, Brian wrote:
> >
> > > xserver-xorg-core and xinit are insufficient by themselves. To
> > > have startx bring up X you need /usr/bin/X, which is in the
> > > xserver-xorg pa
On 08/12/2014 08:35 PM, Stephen Powell wrote:
On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 15:19:16 -0400 (EDT), Martin Smith wrote:
On 11/08/2014 12:16, Stephen Powell wrote:
On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 01:15:31 -0400 (EDT), Reco wrote:
...
cp -a /var/www/* /media/lin50
This may work if there are no "hidden" files in the d
On 08/12/2014 08:02 PM, Richard Hector wrote:
On 11/08/14 06:05, Sven Hartge wrote:
The release will be sometimes after that, probably in
the spring.
Ahem. Spring happens at different times in different places (if at all).
I don't consider it an appropriate description on an international list
On 8/13/14, Paul E Condon wrote:
> I interpret the quoted string in the Subject: header as being flawed
> use of English language. 'stop' should be 'stopped'. And, there is a
That would definitely be clearer.
I was interpreting it as some special systemd shutdown-ey thing which
runs around tryin
On 8/13/14, Michael Biebl wrote:
>> The last message is:
>> "A stop job is running for Session 2 of user me"
>>
>> Red asterisks (up to 3) appear to oscillate at left
>> edge in an ascii "wait for me" animation.
"eye of cylon" (thanks to who mentioned that)
> Have you waited at least 90 secs, wh
On 8/13/14, Tom H wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
>>
>> Debian sid
>>
>> systemd currently fails to poweroff for me
>>
>> XFCE (appears to) exit, the mouse point shows
>> for a while, then the kernel/ shutdown log appears.
>>
>> The last message is:
>> "A stop jo
John Hasler wrote:
I wrote:
Churchill: "If you're not a liberal when you're young there's something
wrong with your heart. If you're not a conservative when you're old
there's something wrong with your brain."
Celejar writes:
FTR, it's not clear that Churchill actually said it,
Then it must
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 05:51:03PM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
> In saying that, I don't know how long 3.16 has been out and no linux
> distribution is an Island in that respect. But still ... 2 years to
> supposedly get a rock solid stable distribution and the default kernel
> hasn't entered Jes
On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 19:34:51 -0500
John Hasler wrote:
> I wrote:
> > Churchill: "If you're not a liberal when you're young there's something
> > wrong with your heart. If you're not a conservative when you're old
> > there's something wrong with your brain."
>
> Celejar writes:
> > FTR, it's no
On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 15:19:16 -0400 (EDT), Martin Smith wrote:
> On 11/08/2014 12:16, Stephen Powell wrote:
>> On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 01:15:31 -0400 (EDT), Reco wrote:
>>> ...
>>> cp -a /var/www/* /media/lin50
>>
>> This may work if there are no "hidden" files in the directory (files whose
>> names be
I wrote:
> Churchill: "If you're not a liberal when you're young there's something
> wrong with your heart. If you're not a conservative when you're old
> there's something wrong with your brain."
Celejar writes:
> FTR, it's not clear that Churchill actually said it,
Then it must have been Mark
On 11/08/14 06:05, Sven Hartge wrote:
The release will be sometimes after that, probably in
the spring.
Ahem. Spring happens at different times in different places (if at all).
I don't consider it an appropriate description on an international list ;-)
Richard
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On Tue, 12 Aug 2014, david...@ling.ohio-state.edu wrote:
Regarding whether keys used to sign debian-live releases are present
(or not) in debian-keyring.gpg or debian-role-keys.gpg :
On Mon, 11 Aug 2014, Francesco Ariis wrote:
On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 10:34:21PM -0400, david...@ling.ohio-state.
On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 16:46:38 -0500
John Hasler wrote:
> Charles Kroeger writes:
> > You know what they say, If you're not a communist when you're young,
> > there's something wrong with your heart.
>
> Churchill: "If you're not a liberal when you're young there's something
> wrong with your hear
Regarding whether keys used to sign debian-live releases are present
(or not) in debian-keyring.gpg or debian-role-keys.gpg :
On Mon, 11 Aug 2014, Francesco Ariis wrote:
On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 10:34:21PM -0400, david...@ling.ohio-state.edu wrote:
| $ gpgv --keyring /usr/share/keyrings/debian-
Squeeze, with kernel linux-image-2.6.32-5-686, is working on
an old Compaq Armada E500. The wheezy installer gave a black
screen.
According to apt and aptitude, linux-image-2.6-686-pae and
linux-image-3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae are available; attempted
installation of either leads to a conflict of
On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 15:36:01 -0600
Paul E Condon wrote:
> I have been cleaning up old email files and in the process created a
> mess I have several mail directories containing emails from different
> times and collected under slightly different operating condition. I
> want to merge them into a
On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 17:06:44 -0400
Charles Kroeger wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 11:50:02 +0200
> Tom H wrote:
>
> > Debian isn't as special as you think, at least not from this
> > perspective.
>
> Everybody earns money and needs money in this development.
> Organizations like Debian go forwar
Charles Kroeger writes:
> You know what they say, If you're not a communist when you're young,
> there's something wrong with your heart.
Churchill: "If you're not a liberal when you're young there's something
wrong with your heart. If you're not a conservative when you're old
there's something w
On Tuesday 12 August 2014 17:53:19 Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> But if the english meaning of the words give
> exact this difference, so well. In my understanding there never was much of
> a difference between halt and poweroff.
I'm not quite clear what you are saying, but if you are saying that th
I have been cleaning up old email files and in the process created a
mess I have several mail directories containing emails from different
times and collected under slightly different operating condition. I
want to merge them into a single directory with the emails arranged in
threads by topic and
Floris wrote:
Op Sun, 10 Aug 2014 04:32:00 +0200 schreef Hugo Vanwoerkom
:
Could you elaborate? You mean that if you connect, lets say a ps/2
keyboard and an USB keyboard, 2 Nvidia video cards with 2 monitors
attached and 2 USB mice and I run systemd, then it will figure out how
to make
On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 11:50:02 +0200
Tom H wrote:
> Debian isn't as special as you think, at least not from this perspective.
Everybody earns money and needs money in this development. Organizations like
Debian go forward by people with jobs volunteering time and expertise. I knew
for
instance in
On Ma, 12 aug 14, 12:51:12, Paul E Condon wrote:
> I interpret the quoted string in the Subject: header as being flawed
> use of English language. 'stop' should be 'stopped'. And, there is a
...
> In a better formulated message, there should be a comma ',' between
> 'user' and '$USER'. Thus if the
On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 21:14:48 +0300
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Ma, 12 aug 14, 14:31:29, Joe wrote:
> > >
> > I believe there is, though I have not yet tried to use it. The
> > point is that, going back two of your paragraphs, it is a *change*,
> > and if not manually corrected will therefore brea
2014-08-10 22:30 keltezéssel, Joe írta:
> Why is it unresolvable? A DROP/REJECT policy is fail-safe, ACCEPT
> isn't. If the rest of the rules are correct, (and more importantly,
> guaranteed always to stay that way in the face of editing, sometimes
> rushed) an ACCEPT policy is redundant, and if th
Hi guys,
Last semester I made some calendars.
Specially a brazilian one, that is not current on the system.
I wonder, to whom should I send them, to ask Debian to keep them in the
next version?
Thanks!
Beco.
PS. Bellow a teaser. If you like, please save as a plain text file under
the directory
On 11/08/2014 12:16, Stephen Powell wrote:
On Mon, 11 Aug 2014 01:15:31 -0400 (EDT), Reco wrote:
While dd can be used to copy a directory, it cannot be used alone for
this task. Try this:
...
cp -a /var/www/* /media/lin50
This may work if there are no "hidden" files in the directory (files wh
I interpret the quoted string in the Subject: header as being flawed
use of English language. 'stop' should be 'stopped'. And, there is a
bug in the script that fails to evaluate the variable USER and
therefore fails to print the name of the user (aka. owner) of the
stopped job in Session 2.
Did O
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
>
> Debian sid
>
> systemd currently fails to poweroff for me
>
> XFCE (appears to) exit, the mouse point shows
> for a while, then the kernel/ shutdown log appears.
>
> The last message is:
> "A stop job is running for Session 2 of user me"
On Ma, 12 aug 14, 14:31:29, Joe wrote:
> >
> I believe there is, though I have not yet tried to use it. The point is
> that, going back two of your paragraphs, it is a *change*, and if
> not manually corrected will therefore break existing systems on
> upgrade. I would have preferred to see it don
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 5:19 AM, Joe wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 04:53:51 -0400
> Tom H wrote:
>>
>> And you've proven my point...
>
> Agreed, I just can't see why there is any controversy.
You misunderstand. The fact that you can't accept that there may be
others who have good reason (whatever
Am Dienstag, 12. August 2014, 17:48:10 schrieb Michael Biebl:
> Am 12.08.2014 17:16, schrieb Hugo Vanwoerkom:
> > Right. Debian Sid. 'halt' does not poweroff with systemd.
>
> Well, yeah. halt is not supposed to power off your system.
Interestingly in the last ten years I have used "halt" exactl
On Tue 12 Aug 2014 at 09:15:59 -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Aug 2014, Brian wrote:
>
> > xserver-xorg-core and xinit are insufficient by themselves. To have
> > startx bring up X you need /usr/bin/X, which is in the xserver-xorg
> > package. But xserver-org depends on one of xserver-
On Sunday 10 August 2014 18:44:28 Steve Litt wrote:
> 1) Make yourself a network install boot disk.
His Linux computer has no Internet connection.
Lisi
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On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> Zenaan Harkness wrote:
>>
>> Debian sid
>>
>> systemd currently fails to poweroff for me
>>
>> XFCE (appears to) exit, the mouse point shows
>> for a while, then the kernel/ shutdown log appears.
>>
>> The last message is:
>> "A stop job is
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 10:16:27AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> >Debian sid
> >
> >systemd currently fails to poweroff for me
> >
> >XFCE (appears to) exit, the mouse point shows
> >for a while, then the kernel/ shutdown log appears.
> >
> >The last message is:
> >"A sto
On Tue, 12 Aug 2014, Brian wrote:
> On Mon 11 Aug 2014 at 18:47:40 -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 11 Aug 2014, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> >
> > > On Du, 10 aug 14, 17:30:20, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> > >
> > > > III. INSTALL X
> > > >
> > > > A. Quick & Dirty, but bloated: 'apt
Am 12.08.2014 17:16, schrieb Hugo Vanwoerkom:
> Right. Debian Sid. 'halt' does not poweroff with systemd.
Well, yeah. halt is not supposed to power off your system.
But that is most likely not the issue Zenaan is having
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On Wed, 13 Aug 2014 00:50:31 +1000
Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> Red asterisks (up to 3) appear to oscillate at left
> edge in an ascii "wait for me" animation.
You're a lucky guy: I don't have even one asterisk (only
a white underscore and a blinking cursor - on a laptop).
But I'm not that sure it
On Tue, 12 Aug 2014, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Lu, 11 aug 14, 18:47:40, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> >
> > IIRC, the base install (terminal only) installed the default video
> > driver for my nVidia-based card -- nouveau. That was before I did
>
> There's a 'nouveau' kernel module and a 'nouveau' X
Zenaan Harkness wrote:
Debian sid
systemd currently fails to poweroff for me
XFCE (appears to) exit, the mouse point shows
for a while, then the kernel/ shutdown log appears.
The last message is:
"A stop job is running for Session 2 of user me"
Red asterisks (up to 3) appear to oscillate at l
Floris wrote:
Op Sun, 10 Aug 2014 23:29:50 +0200 schreef Hugo Vanwoerkom
:
I forgot to ask: is systemd also necessary?
Hugo
you need loginctl, so the answer is yes, you need systemd
success,
Right. I found your bug 711351.
Hugo
That bug is already solved. systemd version 44-11 doesn
Am 12.08.2014 16:50, schrieb Zenaan Harkness:
> Debian sid
>
> systemd currently fails to poweroff for me
>
> XFCE (appears to) exit, the mouse point shows
> for a while, then the kernel/ shutdown log appears.
>
> The last message is:
> "A stop job is running for Session 2 of user me"
>
> Red a
Debian sid
systemd currently fails to poweroff for me
XFCE (appears to) exit, the mouse point shows
for a while, then the kernel/ shutdown log appears.
The last message is:
"A stop job is running for Session 2 of user me"
Red asterisks (up to 3) appear to oscillate at left
edge in an ascii "wai
On Tuesday 12 August 2014 10:36:51 Rob Owens wrote:
> - Original Message -
>
> > From: "David Baron"
> >
> > On Tuesday 12 August 2014 10:10:58 Rob Owens wrote:
> > > - Original Message -
> > >
> > > > From: "David Baron"
> > > >
> > > > I have no 64-bit .exe's. The few apps I
- Original Message -
> From: "David Baron"
>
> On Tuesday 12 August 2014 10:10:58 Rob Owens wrote:
> > - Original Message -
> >
> > > From: "David Baron"
> > >
> > > I have no 64-bit .exe's. The few apps I need to run are all fairly old.
> > > Seems to be no way to run them.
>
On Tuesday 12 August 2014 10:10:58 Rob Owens wrote:
> - Original Message -
>
> > From: "David Baron"
> >
> > I have no 64-bit .exe's. The few apps I need to run are all fairly old.
> > Seems to be no way to run them.
> >
> > Wine64 complains about the .exe format. Placing win32:i386 on
- Original Message -
> From: "David Baron"
>
> I have no 64-bit .exe's. The few apps I need to run are all fairly old. Seems
> to be no way to run them.
>
> Wine64 complains about the .exe format. Placing win32:i386 on top of all this
> complains that the .wine is for a 64bit installatio
On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 14:07:36 +0200
Sven Hartge wrote:
> Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> > On Du, 10 aug 14, 22:22:20, Sven Hartge wrote:
>
> >> All other were mostly misconfigrations which kinda worked before,
> >> because sysvinit was more forgiving or just papered over the error,
> >> for example un
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Du, 10 aug 14, 22:22:20, Sven Hartge wrote:
>> All other were mostly misconfigrations which kinda worked before,
>> because sysvinit was more forgiving or just papered over the error,
>> for example unavailable volumes during boot without "nofail" or
>> "_netdev".
> I
On Mon 11 Aug 2014 at 18:47:40 -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Aug 2014, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>
> > On Du, 10 aug 14, 17:30:20, Patrick Bartek wrote:
> >
> > > III. INSTALL X
> > >
> > > A. Quick & Dirty, but bloated: 'apt-get install xorg'
> > > B. Lean & Mean: 'apt-get instal
On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Charles Kroeger
wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 21:50:01 +0200
> Lisi Reisz wrote:
>>
>> I had understood that Debian is in this, as in many things, different from
>> most Linux distros.
>
> Yes you're right, that's what makes Debian special, passion always trumps
>
On Lu, 11 aug 14, 07:57:05, Rusi Mody wrote:
>
> If I start from grub using init=/bin/systemd it boots but networking
> does not work.
Please attach the file 'bootlog' after running:
journalctl -alb > bootlog
Kind regards,
Andrei
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On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 04:53:51 -0400
Tom H wrote:
>
> And you've proven my point...
>
>
Agreed, I just can't see why there is any controversy.
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On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 4:30 PM, Joe wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 16:07:01 -0400
> Tom H wrote:
>> On Sun, Aug 10, 2014 at 2:24 PM, Nemeth Gyorgy
>> wrote:
>>> 2014-08-10 11:33 keltezéssel, Pascal Hambourg írta:
sysctl -w net.ipv4.ip_forward=1
iptables -t nat -P ACCEPT
iptabl
On Mi, 06 aug 14, 16:50:56, Hans wrote:
> Hello list,
>
> I am looking for some strange problem. Please let me describe:
>
> I installed pulseaudio, and everything worked fine, sound was running well,
> everything could be configured with pavucontrol. So far so well. But,
> after reboot, sound
On Lu, 11 aug 14, 18:47:40, Patrick Bartek wrote:
>
> IIRC, the base install (terminal only) installed the default video
> driver for my nVidia-based card -- nouveau. That was before I did
There's a 'nouveau' kernel module and a 'nouveau' X driver, installed
with package xserver-xorg-video-nouv
On Monday 11 August 2014 08:36:23 The Wanderer wrote:
> On 08/11/2014 06:27 AM, David Baron wrote:
> > I have no 64-bit .exe's. The few apps I need to run are all fairly
> > old. Seems to be no way to run them.
> >
> > Wine64 complains about the .exe format. Placing win32:i386 on top of
> > all th
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