Re: Irony

2014-08-09 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sat, 9 Aug 2014 16:26:40 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > Within months of my switch, oops, here comes systemd. Consider switching to the Debian/kFreeBSD. It's the same Debian, yet there won't be no systemd in the foreseeable future. Reco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lis

RE: System broken after full-upgrade: please help!

2014-08-09 Thread Bonno Bloksma
Hi, > On Sat, 09 Aug 2014 10:46:51 + Rodolfo Medina sent: > > > >> I've always used `halt' to shutdown the machine. Is `poweroff' >> proper to do that? >> >> Rodolfo > > poweroff doesn't work for me, but I tried it as root, next time I use it I > will try it as user and see if it works th

Re: Mounting a FreeBSD USB Memory Stick Image rw

2014-08-09 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sat, 9 Aug 2014 20:34:35 +1000 Zenaan Harkness wrote: > Pity we don't have a generic FUSE module to run -all- filesystems in > userspace (as/when needed), so we could simply toggle 'experimental' > features on easily. Yet we do have UFS2 FUSE implementation :) http://sourceforge.net/p

Re: understanding Debian support on ARM architecture

2014-08-09 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 04:40:05 +0300 Martin T wrote: > Hi, > > according to wiki, Debian is supported on little-endian ARM > architecture. However, then wiki lists some sub-architectures which > are supported. For example iop32x, ixp4xx, kirkwood and orion5x. Does > this mean that Debian ARM

Re: disable keyboard outside of X Windows too

2014-08-09 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 11:02:13 +0800 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson wrote: > So how can I do it (and not zap the USB keyboard at the same time)? This should disable your PS/2 keyboard both in the console or X: echo -n manual > /sys/bus/serio/devices/serio0/bind_mode echo -n serio1 > /sys/bus/serio/driver

Re: Fonts for all Unicode glyphs?

2014-08-09 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 06:49:10PM -0400, The Wanderer wrote: > Is there any remotely straightforward way, in Debian, to install font > packages to explicitly satisfy the goal of "provide suitable glyphs to > cover the entire Unicode character space"? ('unifont' looks like it > would get me started

Re: End of hypocrisy ?

2014-08-09 Thread Bob Proulx
Tom H wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > I believe the point was that it should be "make before break". They > > should have allowed people to use systemd without preventing people > > from not using it. They didn't make a new system without breaking the > > old one. They broke the old one while try

Re: Partitioning of new machine

2014-08-09 Thread Bob Proulx
AW wrote: > "B. M." wrote: > > optimal partitioning scheme which should last for the > > next 10 years :-) > > I've found that using lvm is a great idea. Resizing volumes is incredibly > easy. You can even easily resize a volume to occupy a portion of a new HDD. > So, my recommendation for new

Re: IP Forwarding to Windows machine

2014-08-09 Thread Bob Proulx
Mike McClain wrote: > Pascal Hambourg wrote: > > Please describe your network topology. Where's the Win2k box ? > > __ > | Debian| LAN| Windows 2000 | > Inet|Linux|

disable keyboard outside of X Windows too

2014-08-09 Thread 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
Gentlemen, I wish to disable my built-in keyboard which is inhabited by a ghost occasionally typing bad things. I will instead use my USB keyboard. Of course in X windows, all that is needed is $ xinput --disable 'AT Translated Set 2 keyboard' The problem is I wish to disable the bad keyboard als

Re: Netflix in chrome-unstable on Debian Sid

2014-08-09 Thread Charles Kroeger
On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 02:30:01 +0200 John Holland wrote: > working in Debian Sid VM by jtotheh @slashdot > http://entertainment.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=5512583&cid=47639701 netflix is going into Europe where Linux is widely used, especially in Germany. I believe they will have a .deb in the

Re: Partitioning of new machine

2014-08-09 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sat, 09 Aug 2014, B. M. wrote: > Le 9 août 2014 à 05:44, Patrick Bartek a écrit : > > > On Fri, 08 Aug 2014, B. M. wrote: > > > >> Hi all, > >> > [snip] > >> > >> What do you think about the following: > >> > >> === SSD: === > >> /boot unencrypted, 300 MB > >> / ex

Re: Netflix in chrome-unstable on Debian Sid

2014-08-09 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
John Holland wrote: working in Debian Sid VM by jtotheh @slashdot http://entertainment.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=5512583&cid=47639701 That does not say how Netflix support was installed. With pipelight-multi? And what is that "google-chrome-unstable deb"? Does that have a version number

Re: Software compatibility between different architectures?

2014-08-09 Thread Stefan Monnier
> how compatible are drivers on ports for different CPU architectures, > e.g. I have a USB HSDPA modem which works great on Wheezy port for x86 > architecture, but can I expect it to work on Wheezy port for ARM? If your ARM platform's USB driver works, then yes, you can expect the exact same suppo

Re: clean up my system

2014-08-09 Thread Charles Kroeger
On Sun, 10 Aug 2014 00:00:02 +0200 Floris wrote: > I want to clean up my system You could always install: bleachbit That will clean you out -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: clean up my system

2014-08-09 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Floris wrote: It has a out-of-the-box working multi-seat. Yes, even with the nvidia module it is a no pain configuration. In other words two (or more) computers for one price. Could you elaborate? You mean that if you connect, lets say a ps/2 keyboard and an USB keyboard, 2 Nvidia video

Re: understanding Debian support on ARM architecture

2014-08-09 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 8/9/2014 9:40 PM, Martin T wrote: > Hi, > > according to wiki, Debian is supported on little-endian ARM > architecture. However, then wiki lists some sub-architectures which > are supported. For example iop32x, ixp4xx, kirkwood and orion5x. Does > this mean that Debian ARM port works on fairly

understanding Debian support on ARM architecture

2014-08-09 Thread Martin T
Hi, according to wiki, Debian is supported on little-endian ARM architecture. However, then wiki lists some sub-architectures which are supported. For example iop32x, ixp4xx, kirkwood and orion5x. Does this mean that Debian ARM port works on fairly limited number of sub-architectures? For example

Software compatibility between different architectures?

2014-08-09 Thread Martin T
Hi, how compatible are drivers on ports for different CPU architectures, e.g. I have a USB HSDPA modem which works great on Wheezy port for x86 architecture, but can I expect it to work on Wheezy port for ARM? Can one expect the same options(modprobe parameters) for drivers on all platforms? What

Re: par2

2014-08-09 Thread David Christensen
On 08/09/2014 12:24 PM, Gary Dale wrote: However I can see you wanting them to be out of the way. par2 actually puts them in the current directory unless you tell it differently so you could for example do: cd /mnt/datadrive/.par2/stuff par2 c files.par2 ../../stuff/* or just: par2 c /mn

Netflix in chrome-unstable on Debian Sid

2014-08-09 Thread John Holland
working in Debian Sid VM by jtotheh @slashdot http://entertainment.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=5512583&cid=47639701 -- John Holland jholl...@vin-dit.org gpg public key ID 0x9551CF2D signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: IP Forwarding to Windows machine

2014-08-09 Thread Mike McClain
On Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 09:13:23PM +0200, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Hello, > > Mike McClain a ?crit : > > I've been trying to get my hand rolled iptables firewall to > > masquerade traffic on the LAN to/from a Win2K box. > > Please describe your network topology. Where's the Win2k box ?

Re: IP Forwarding to Windows machine

2014-08-09 Thread Mike McClain
On Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 08:24:11PM +0200, Nemeth Gyorgy wrote: > 2014-08-08 09:04 keltez?ssel, Mike McClain ?rta: > > I've been trying to get my hand rolled iptables firewall to > > masquerade traffic on the LAN to/from a Win2K box. I've gotten it to > > the point that I can ping from the boxes

Re: IP Forwarding to Windows machine

2014-08-09 Thread Mike McClain
On Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 09:16:05PM -0700, Matt Ventura wrote: > On 8/8/2014 12:04 AM, Mike McClain wrote: > > I've been trying to get my hand rolled iptables firewall to > >masquerade traffic on the LAN to/from a Win2K box. I've gotten it to > >the point that I can ping from the boxes both ways

Re: IP Forwarding to Windows machine

2014-08-09 Thread Mike McClain
On Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 07:05:28PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: > On 08/08/2014 12:04 AM, Mike McClain wrote: > > I've been trying to get my hand rolled iptables firewall to > >masquerade traffic on the LAN to/from a Win2K box. > > I used to write my own firewall/ router rules, but then disc

Re: Irony

2014-08-09 Thread Brian
On Sat 09 Aug 2014 at 16:47:54 -0400, AW wrote: > On Sat, 9 Aug 2014 16:26:40 -0400 > Steve Litt wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > Some of the reasons I switched my desktop from Ubuntu to Debian were: > > > > 1) To do more config by editor and less by magical binary program. > > > > 2) To g

Re: par2

2014-08-09 Thread AW
On Sat, 09 Aug 2014 16:37:52 -0400 Gary Dale wrote: > The speed of the check is usually limited by the speed of reading the > file(s) from disk. A par2 check is more direct and will also > automatically repair any bit rot that has developed. Definitely not. For very small files nearly all

Re: clean up my system

2014-08-09 Thread Sven Hartge
Floris wrote: > Now I want to clean up my system. I know, it is not about disk space, > but more to get a neatly system. Is it possible to remove all the > /etc/rc*d directories? And which scripts are safe to remove from > /etc/init.d? Don't do this. Currently most of the needed services to ru

clean up my system

2014-08-09 Thread Floris
Hey, I know there are a lot off people who are skeptic about systemd, but I love it. It has a out-of-the-box working multi-seat. Yes, even with the nvidia module it is a no pain configuration. In other words two (or more) computers for one price. Now I want to clean up my system. I know,

Re: Irony

2014-08-09 Thread AW
On Sat, 9 Aug 2014 16:26:40 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > Some of the reasons I switched my desktop from Ubuntu to Debian were: > > 1) To do more config by editor and less by magical binary program. > > 2) To get rid of gratuitous boot gunge (in this case Plymouth) > > 3) To

[OT] [politics] Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7

2014-08-09 Thread Iain M Conochie
On 03/08/14 00:21, Joel Rees wrote: Google has too much money and is out of control. The NSA has too much money and is out of our control. I find it interesting that you feel more in control of a privately funded corporation than a legitimate arm of a sovereign government. It is obvious wha

Re: par2

2014-08-09 Thread Gary Dale
On 09/08/14 04:20 PM, AW wrote: On Sat, 09 Aug 2014 16:08:41 -0400 Gary Dale wrote: > Whatever for? There are better checksums and md5 doesn't provide error > correction? Even the MD5 man page advises using sha checksums instead. md5sum provides a relatively quick check... if it fails, the

Irony

2014-08-09 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all, Some of the reasons I switched my desktop from Ubuntu to Debian were: 1) To do more config by editor and less by magical binary program. 2) To get rid of gratuitous boot gunge (in this case Plymouth) 3) To get closer to the Unix Philosophy Within months of my switch, oops, here comes s

Re: par2

2014-08-09 Thread AW
On Sat, 09 Aug 2014 16:08:41 -0400 Gary Dale wrote: > Whatever for? There are better checksums and md5 doesn't provide error > correction? Even the MD5 man page advises using sha checksums instead. md5sum provides a relatively quick check... if it fails, then use the "real" check, i.e. pars.

Re: TCP fast open & IPv6

2014-08-09 Thread Georgi Naplatanov
On 08/09/2014 03:00 PM, Quentin Bourgeois wrote: > > > On 08/09/2014 11:36 AM, Georgi Naplatanov wrote: >> >> Hi everybody, >> > Hi, > >> I wonder if it is possible to enable/disable TCP fast open for IPv6 >> in Jessie (kernel 3.14) and how it can be done (if it's possible). >> >> In Jessie ther

Re: par2

2014-08-09 Thread Gary Dale
On 09/08/14 03:56 PM, AW wrote: On Sat, 09 Aug 2014 15:24:49 -0400 Gary Dale wrote: > Assuming you have both a backup copy and a live copy plus some par2 > files, you should be safe with the 5% to 10% I suggested. If going with an external backup and pars... I'd also add md5sums to the lis

Re: par2

2014-08-09 Thread AW
On Sat, 09 Aug 2014 15:24:49 -0400 Gary Dale wrote: > Assuming you have both a backup copy and a live copy plus some par2 > files, you should be safe with the 5% to 10% I suggested. If going with an external backup and pars... I'd also add md5sums to the list. I've had great success using ex

Re: NFS and iptables during bootup

2014-08-09 Thread Martin T
Yes, I erroneously used "lo0" instead of "lo" in iptables rules. I use FreeBSD on daily basis :) However, once I allowed traffic to loopback interface and started NFS("/etc/init.d/nfs-common start"), I saw some traffic on loopback interface: 48 560 ACCEPT all -- lo * 0.0.

Re: par2

2014-08-09 Thread Gary Dale
On 09/08/14 11:35 AM, David Christensen wrote: On 08/09/2014 08:11 AM, Gary Dale wrote: To preserve your archive, I'd advise PAR2 redundancy files to fix any problems that may crop up. So long as your HD copies are good, you don't need to go to the PAR2 files, but should one develop a problem, y

Re: Question about dch

2014-08-09 Thread George Shuklin
On 08/09/2014 07:16 PM, Tom H wrote: On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 10:52 AM, George Shuklin wrote: dch -i tool allows to add new version to debian/changelog file. When I add new version I make this: package (1.0.2-1myname1-ubuntu0) UNRELEASED; urgency=medium * -- signature and date package (1.

Re: journalctl and old entries [was: End of hypocrisy ?]

2014-08-09 Thread Slavko
Ahoj, Dňa Sat, 9 Aug 2014 17:23:31 +0200 Sven Hartge napísal: > Slavko wrote: > > > Please, how i can get the records from previous boot? > > Edit /etc/systemd/journald.conf and set "Storage=persistent" > Thanks for pointing. It works :) -- Slavko http://slavino.sk signature.asc Descri

Re: Question about dch

2014-08-09 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 10:52 AM, George Shuklin wrote: > > dch -i tool allows to add new version to debian/changelog file. > > When I add new version I make this: > > package (1.0.2-1myname1-ubuntu0) UNRELEASED; urgency=medium > > * > -- signature and date > > package (1.0.2-1myname1) unstable;

Re: End of hypocrisy ?

2014-08-09 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > Zenaan Harkness wrote: >> Joel Rees wrote: >>> >>> This is precisely why systemd should have been brought up to speed in >>> a separate, parallel, volunteer-only distro. >>> >>> (If you don't understand what I mean by a separate, parallel, >>> vo

Re: Partitioning of new machine

2014-08-09 Thread B. M.
Le 9 août 2014 à 05:44, Patrick Bartek a écrit : > On Fri, 08 Aug 2014, B. M. wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> While I'm waiting for the components of my new machine >> (testing/jessie) I'm thinking about the optimal partitioning scheme >> which should last for the next 10 years :-) > > 10 years migh

par2

2014-08-09 Thread David Christensen
On 08/09/2014 08:11 AM, Gary Dale wrote: To preserve your archive, I'd advise PAR2 redundancy files to fix any problems that may crop up. So long as your HD copies are good, you don't need to go to the PAR2 files, but should one develop a problem, you can fix it with the PAR2 files. Having 5% to

Re: journalctl and old entries [was: End of hypocrisy ?]

2014-08-09 Thread Sven Hartge
Slavko wrote: > Please, how i can get the records from previous boot? Edit /etc/systemd/journald.conf and set "Storage=persistent" Debians default (currently) is to just store the journal in memory which is obviously lost in reboot. Grüße, Sven. -- Sigmentation fault. Core dumped. -- To

journalctl and old entries [was: End of hypocrisy ?]

2014-08-09 Thread Slavko
Ahoj, Dňa Sat, 9 Aug 2014 17:22:33 +0300 Andrei POPESCU napísal: > On Vi, 08 aug 14, 20:51:14, Steve Litt wrote: > > On Fri, 8 Aug 2014 22:52:36 +0300 > > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > > On Vi, 08 aug 14, 10:34:24, Steve Litt wrote: > > > > > > > > 2) Write it to the screen. Relatively little

Re: Partitioning of new machine

2014-08-09 Thread Gary Dale
On 09/08/14 03:08 AM, B. M. wrote: Le 9 août 2014 à 06:04, Gary Dale a écrit : On 08/08/14 06:14 AM, B. M. wrote: Hi all, While I'm waiting for the components of my new machine (testing/jessie) I'm thinking about the optimal partitioning scheme which should last for the next 10 years :-) Th

Re: How to install init scripts manually?

2014-08-09 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 04 aug 14, 13:30:54, Martin T wrote: > > As a next step, I made the /etc/init.d/test-script file executable and > added a symlink to /etc/rc3.d/("ln -s ../init.d/test-script > /etc/rc3.d/S23test-script") directory and changed my runlevel from > 2(default) to 3 with "init 3". However, the te

Re: Question about dch

2014-08-09 Thread Slavko
Ahoj, Dňa Sat, 09 Aug 2014 17:52:15 +0300 George Shuklin napísal: > dch -i tool allows to add new version to debian/changelog file. > > When I add new version I make this: > > |package (1.0.2-1myname1-ubuntu0) UNRELEASED; urgency=medium > > * > -- signature and date > > package (1.0.2-1m

Re: How to install init scripts manually?

2014-08-09 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 04 aug 14, 11:37:08, Gary Dale wrote: > > OK. On Jessie it is a symbolic link to /bin/systemctl. The difference is > likely important to provide a standard way to change run levels despite not > everyone using init. Ditto for insserv which seems to have been created to > allow upstart and i

Re: aptitude / apt-get status output

2014-08-09 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 03 aug 14, 13:00:27, John Bleichert wrote: > > > On 08/03/2014 12:44 PM, Sven Joachim wrote: > >On 2014-08-03 18:04 +0200, John Bleichert wrote: > > >>root@boogie:~# aptitude upgrade > >><...> > >>Current status: 9 updates [-24]. > > > >24 packages have been upgraded, presumably the same

Question about dch

2014-08-09 Thread George Shuklin
dch -i tool allows to add new version to debian/changelog file. When I add new version I make this: |package (1.0.2-1myname1-ubuntu0) UNRELEASED; urgency=medium * -- signature and date package (1.0.2-1myname1) unstable; urgency=medium * old changes -- signature and date | If version end

Re: End of hypocrisy ?

2014-08-09 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 08 aug 14, 20:51:14, Steve Litt wrote: > On Fri, 8 Aug 2014 22:52:36 +0300 > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > On Vi, 08 aug 14, 10:34:24, Steve Litt wrote: > > > > > > 2) Write it to the screen. Relatively little happens before the > > >filesystem comes up, anyway. > > > > It's "only" abo

Re: End of hypocrisy ?

2014-08-09 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 8/8/2014 9:53 PM, AW wrote: > On Fri, 8 Aug 2014 20:50:14 -0400 > Steve Litt wrote: > > > Seventh, there's 40 years of experience with text logs. Are they > > perfect? No. > > The thread that doesn't die --- misinformation all over the place, and some it > that my misinformation -- sorry 'b

Re: End of hypocrisy ?

2014-08-09 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 8/8/2014 9:53 PM, AW wrote: > On Fri, 8 Aug 2014 20:50:14 -0400 > Steve Litt wrote: > > > Seventh, there's 40 years of experience with text logs. Are they > > perfect? No. > > The thread that doesn't die --- misinformation all over the place, and some it > that my misinformation -- sorry 'b

Re: System broken after full-upgrade: please help!

2014-08-09 Thread Charlie
On Sat, 09 Aug 2014 10:46:51 + Rodolfo Medina sent: > I've always used `halt' to shutdown the machine. Is `poweroff' > proper to do that? > > Rodolfo poweroff doesn't work for me, but I tried it as root, next time I use it I will try it as user and see if it works then. shutdown now does

Re: TCP fast open & IPv6

2014-08-09 Thread Quentin Bourgeois
On 08/09/2014 11:36 AM, Georgi Naplatanov wrote: > > Hi everybody, > Hi, > I wonder if it is possible to enable/disable TCP fast open for IPv6 > in Jessie (kernel 3.14) and how it can be done (if it's possible). > > In Jessie there is not /proc/sys/net/ipv6/tcp_fastopen > I think that TCP fa

Re: System broken after full-upgrade: please help!

2014-08-09 Thread The Wanderer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 08/08/2014 03:51 AM, Bonno Bloksma wrote: > Hi Rodolfo, > >> Two days ago, after full-upgrade, as explained, it was impossible >> to boot neither to reboot and I had to unplug the machine. Thanks >> to lister's help, the above commands through

Re: System broken after full-upgrade: please help!

2014-08-09 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Brian writes: > On Fri 08 Aug 2014 at 13:20:40 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote: > >> Brian writes: >> >> > Boot into the OS on sda6. Read the documentation for the version of grub >> > on it, Try 'grub-install /dev/sda'. >> >> Thanks. The last command (grub-install /dev/sda) succeded in putting s

Re: System broken after full-upgrade: please help!

2014-08-09 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Bonno Bloksma writes: > Hi Rodolfo, > >> Two days ago, after full-upgrade, as explained, it was impossible to boot >> neither to reboot and I had to unplug the machine. Thanks to lister's help, >> the above commands through debian-installer in rescue mode managed to repair >> the system. But no

Re: Mounting a FreeBSD USB Memory Stick Image rw

2014-08-09 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 8/9/14, didier gaumet wrote: > Le 08/08/2014 22:40, Martin Smith a écrit : > [...] >> try mount -t ufs -rw -o ufstype=ufs2,loop >> FreeBSD-9.1-RELEASE-amd64-memstick-headless.img /mnt >> >> specifying ufstype works with bsd disks in the same machine so should >> hopefully work with yours. > [..

TCP fast open & IPv6

2014-08-09 Thread Georgi Naplatanov
Hi everybody, I wonder if it is possible to enable/disable TCP fast open for IPv6 in Jessie (kernel 3.14) and how it can be done (if it's possible). In Jessie there is not /proc/sys/net/ipv6/tcp_fastopen Thanks in advance. Georgi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.o

Re: Mounting a FreeBSD USB Memory Stick Image rw

2014-08-09 Thread didier gaumet
Le 08/08/2014 22:40, Martin Smith a écrit : [...] > try mount -t ufs -rw -o ufstype=ufs2,loop > FreeBSD-9.1-RELEASE-amd64-memstick-headless.img /mnt > > specifying ufstype works with bsd disks in the same machine so should > hopefully work with yours. [...] I' m a little bit puzzled: have you reb

Re: Partitioning of new machine

2014-08-09 Thread B. M.
Le 9 août 2014 à 06:04, Gary Dale a écrit : > On 08/08/14 06:14 AM, B. M. wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> While I'm waiting for the components of my new machine (testing/jessie) >> I'm thinking about the optimal partitioning scheme which should last for the >> next 10 years :-) >> >> The system looks l