I finally had a chance to try this today.
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 07:36:27PM +0200, Andreas Weber wrote:
> Of all MTP stuff that I tested so far [1] I can recommend go-mtpfs the
> most because it's fast [2] and reliable IMHO:
>
> sudo apt-get install golang fuse git-core libmtp-dev libfuse-dev
>
On 5/24/14, Ric Moore wrote:
> On 05/23/2014 03:33 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
>> Please continue on d-community-offtopic.
> ...and, it's more fun there. :) Ric
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Ralf Mardorf writes:
> I don't use Google anymore, but to be fair, Google shows suggestions
> while you're typing, so assumed you misspell or you don't remember
> some terms...
Not if you disallow all their cookies and scripts (and, of course, have
no Google "account").
> Google is easier to use
On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 12:51:34AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Sun, 2014-05-25 at 00:27 +0200, Filip wrote:
> > On Sat, 24 May 2014 21:50:32 +0200
> > Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> >
> > > On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 15:34 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> > > > feh to set the root window to a nice background ima
On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 3:00 PM, Ralf Mardorf
wrote:
> +1 for StartPage. I'm a StartPage user, I don't use Google anymore, but
> to be fair, Google shows suggestions while you're typing, so assumed you
> misspell or you don't remember some terms, Google is easier to use than
> StartPage, IOW becau
On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 02:30:33PM -0700, bri...@aracnet.com wrote:
> On Sat, 24 May 2014 23:09:04 +0200
> Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>
> >
> > > > xfe
> >
> > Nice, I didn't know it. I likely will use it in the future.
> >
> >
> >
>
> i run openbox and one thing i would really like is an automoun
On Sun, 2014-05-25 at 00:27 +0200, Filip wrote:
> On Sat, 24 May 2014 21:50:32 +0200
> Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 15:34 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> > > feh to set the root window to a nice background image.
> >
> > I use feh --bg-scale for my Arch's JWM, but Esetroot -m f
On Sun, 2014-05-25 at 00:04 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 22:31 +0100, Padraig Rocks wrote:
>
> > If one has an objection to using google (privacy, tracking, cookies)
> > is it not a little hypocritical to use Startpage which is still
> > relying on Google search anyway ?
>
On Sat, 24 May 2014 21:50:32 +0200
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 15:34 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> > feh to set the root window to a nice background image.
>
> I use feh --bg-scale for my Arch's JWM, but Esetroot -m for my
> Debian's JWM. Perhaps Esetroot is obsolete.
>
Both a
On Sat, 24 May 2014 14:30:33 -0700
wrote:
> On Sat, 24 May 2014 23:09:04 +0200
> Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>
> >
> > > > xfe
> >
> > Nice, I didn't know it. I likely will use it in the future.
> >
> >
> >
>
> i run openbox and one thing i would really like is an automounter for
> things like fl
On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 22:31 +0100, Padraig Rocks wrote:
> If one has an objection to using google (privacy, tracking, cookies)
> is it not a little hypocritical to use Startpage which is still
> relying on Google search anyway ?
Yesno, it is and it isn't at the same time, if you ask this questio
On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 14:30 -0700, bri...@aracnet.com wrote:
> On Sat, 24 May 2014 23:09:04 +0200
> Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>
> >
> > > > xfe
> >
> > Nice, I didn't know it. I likely will use it in the future.
> >
> >
> >
>
> i run openbox and one thing i would really like is an automounter for
On Saturday, 24 May 2014, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 12:29:39PM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> > Reco writes:
> > > He meant that StartPage wants anybody to believe that they don't show
> > > any ads, don't place any cookies, they don't use any javascript on
> > > their site, and
On Sat, 24 May 2014 23:09:04 +0200
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>
> > > xfe
>
> Nice, I didn't know it. I likely will use it in the future.
>
>
>
i run openbox and one thing i would really like is an automounter for things
like flash drives.
any suggestions ?
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I wanted to take a look at Pitivi and Openshot, but both installation require
removing *lots* of important things like cups and gimp ?!?
I run wheezy, with some backports (required by my motherboard) and a newer
version of glibc (to run Master PDF Editor). I can live without these two
programs,
> > xfe
Nice, I didn't know it. I likely will use it in the future.
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On Sat, 24 May 2014 18:27:28 +0200
Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> Huh ? NAT does not make things simpler but more complicated !
> What would be the benefit of using NAT here ?
Security by obscurity. NAT is one more hassle the badguys have to get
through to get to your stuff. As botnets turn into brute
On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 15:34 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> I switch back from Xfce to Openbox
What accessory apps that usually are part of a DE do you need?
A nice calculator IMO is Galculator, but I didn't use it's scientific
mode yet. If you're from an Europe contry whre the "," vs ".".
Galculator
On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 15:34 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> feh to set the root window to a nice background image.
I use feh --bg-scale for my Arch's JWM, but Esetroot -m for my
Debian's JWM. Perhaps Esetroot is obsolete.
Did anybody already mention a terminal emulation? IMO a good terminal
emulat
Pascal Hambourg writes:
> csanyi...@gmail.com a écrit :
>> Reco writes:
>>
>>>
>>> /24 net allows 256 addresses. You've tried one (and is using another
>>> one), so it's 254 to go.
>
> Less. .0 and .255 are reserved as network and broadcast addresses.
>
>> Also, I get no documentation else with
On Fri, 23 May 2014 17:42:44 +0200
filip wrote:
> Openbox works very well. It's not a complete desktop environment of
> course, just one component, so you will need to pick and choose the
> applications to make it a workable environment. Which is actually a
> good thing because the application th
Tony Baldwin writes:
> Startpage proxies google results, so it already brings you those
> results without all the filtering, manipulating, tracking, etc. with
> no further effort on your part to block that crap.
Since I always block all that crap no further effort is required.
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On Sat, 24 May 2014 12:07:04 -0500
Richard Owlett wrote:
I'm running a series of experiments tweaking my Debian install.
The procedure I wish to follow is:
0. Primary partition will have a normal install and will NOT
be modified
Grub2 installed to a second primary parti
Tony Baldwin writes:
> They DO show ads. They just don't do the tracking and the
> filtering/manipulation of your search results.
You know this how?
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On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 14:50 -0400, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 09:59:40PM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> > Joel Rees writes:
> > > The question of how evil google is/was/is becoming aside...
> >
> > Google search works just fine with all ads, cookies, scripts, and
> > trackers block
Reco wrote:
Hi.
On Sat, 24 May 2014 12:07:04 -0500
Richard Owlett wrote:
How can I have each of the "clones" have a unique UUID. All
partitions will be bootable and I suspect Grub could have problems.
This should do it for the ext* filesystem:
tune2fs -U
Thank you. Reading the man p
On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 12:29:39PM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> Reco writes:
> > He meant that StartPage wants anybody to believe that they don't show
> > any ads, don't place any cookies, they don't use any javascript on
> > their site, and of course, they would not track anyone while they're
> > l
On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 07:34:18AM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> I wrote:
> > Google search works just fine with all ads, cookies, scripts, and
> > trackers blocked.
>
> Chris Bannister writes:
> > It's probably easier to use https://startpage.com/ :-)
>
> How is that easier?
Startpage proxies goo
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 09:59:40PM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> Joel Rees writes:
> > The question of how evil google is/was/is becoming aside...
>
> Google search works just fine with all ads, cookies, scripts, and
> trackers blocked.
Which is essentially exactly what startpage.com gives you.
Or,
Hi.
On Sat, 24 May 2014 12:29:39 -0500
John Hasler wrote:
> Reco writes:
> > He meant that StartPage wants anybody to believe that they don't show
> > any ads, don't place any cookies, they don't use any javascript on
> > their site, and of course, they would not track anyone while they're
> >
Reco writes:
> He meant that StartPage wants anybody to believe that they don't show
> any ads, don't place any cookies, they don't use any javascript on
> their site, and of course, they would not track anyone while they're
> lifting Google's search results.
But I always block ads, cookies, scrip
On Sat, 24 May 2014 12:07:04 -0500
Richard Owlett wrote:
> I'm running a series of experiments tweaking my Debian install.
> The procedure I wish to follow is:
>0. Primary partition will have a normal install and will NOT
> be modified
> Grub2 installed to a second primary partition
>
On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 07:34:18AM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> I wrote:
> > Google search works just fine with all ads, cookies, scripts, and
> > trackers blocked.
>
> Chris Bannister writes:
> > It's probably easier to use https://startpage.com/ :-)
>
> How is that easier?
They do it all for yo
when i google QOS for linux i always find HTB in most of my searches, i
have been working on a linux base DD-WRT router and HTB is the part of it.
my question is not related to DDWRT my question is does HTB works on DSCP
base classes from AF21 to AF40 or HTB is some thing else. i am asking
this
Hi.
On Sat, 24 May 2014 12:07:04 -0500
Richard Owlett wrote:
> How can I have each of the "clones" have a unique UUID. All
> partitions will be bootable and I suspect Grub could have problems.
This should do it for the ext* filesystem:
tune2fs -U
Reco
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On Sat, 24 May 2014 18:45:38 +0200
Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> Reco a écrit :
> > Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> >
> >>> Reco writes:
> >>>
> /24 net allows 256 addresses. You've tried one (and is using another
> one), so it's 254 to go.
> >> Less. .0 and .255 are reserved as network and broa
I'm running a series of experiments tweaking my Debian install.
The procedure I wish to follow is:
0. Primary partition will have a normal install and will NOT
be modified
Grub2 installed to a second primary partition
1. install a minimal system to a logical partition
2. "clone" that
Hi.
On Sat, 24 May 2014 18:27:28 +0200
Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> Reco a écrit :
> >
> > To keep things simple. Two host can communicate with each other without
> > third party (router) only if they have their IPs from the same network.
>
> No. Only if they share the same broadcast domain (link
Reco a écrit :
> Pascal Hambourg wrote:
>
>>> Reco writes:
>>>
/24 net allows 256 addresses. You've tried one (and is using another
one), so it's 254 to go.
>> Less. .0 and .255 are reserved as network and broadcast addresses.
>
> I seen ISPs that advertise routes ending with 0. A vio
Reco a écrit :
>
> To keep things simple. Two host can communicate with each other without
> third party (router) only if they have their IPs from the same network.
No. Only if they share the same broadcast domain (link layer network),
regardless of IP addressing. Usually IP subnetting matches li
On Sat, 24 May 2014 17:56:53 +0200
Pascal Hambourg wrote:
> csanyi...@gmail.com a écrit :
> > Reco writes:
> >
> >>
> >> /24 net allows 256 addresses. You've tried one (and is using another
> >> one), so it's 254 to go.
>
> Less. .0 and .255 are reserved as network and broadcast addresses.
I
csanyi...@gmail.com a écrit :
> Reco writes:
>
>>
>> /24 net allows 256 addresses. You've tried one (and is using another
>> one), so it's 254 to go.
Less. .0 and .255 are reserved as network and broadcast addresses.
> Also, I get no documentation else with the static IP address from my ISP
> b
Hi.
On Sat, 24 May 2014 07:34:18 -0500
John Hasler wrote:
> I wrote:
> > Google search works just fine with all ads, cookies, scripts, and
> > trackers blocked.
>
> Chris Bannister writes:
> > It's probably easier to use https://startpage.com/ :-)
>
> How is that easier?
He meant that StartP
On Sat, 24 May 2014 17:45:35 +0200
csanyi...@gmail.com wrote:
> Well, I tried the default gateway with IP address:
> 217.17.111.1
> and
> 217.17.111.254
>
> None of them works. I rebooted every time when changed the default gw
> address.
Ok. Just to avoid sloppy wording I'd like to add that I me
On 05/24/2014 11:43 AM, Reco wrote:
# service networking restart
Good intention on your part, but this is bad advice.
In /etc/init.d/networking 'force-reload' and 'restart' methods are
marked as deprecated. Specifically corresponding script says:
log_warning_msg "Running $0 $1 is deprecate
Reco writes:
> Hi.
>
> On Sat, 24 May 2014 15:06:52 +0200
> csanyi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Well, I just tried that, but without success.
>
> /24 net allows 256 addresses. You've tried one (and is using another
> one), so it's 254 to go.
>
> As I wrote, if you don't want to guess - check with yo
Hi.
On Sat, 24 May 2014 10:36:23 -0400
John Bleichert wrote:
> You may have to restart the networking or network-manager service or
> just reboot. I had to when I first setup static. Not sure why but it
> needed more than ifdown/ifup.
>
> e.g.:
>
> # service networking restart
Good intenti
Ralf Mardorf grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
> On Fri, 2014-05-23 at 17:33 +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
>> Please continue on d-community-offtopic.
>
> True, but I have to clarify something, see below.
Then how about clarifying it on off-topic as requested, rather than
stirring it up over here? O
On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 09:58:11AM +, Curt wrote:
> On 2014-05-24, Chris Bannister wrote:
> > On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 06:13:17AM -0400, Rodney D. Myers wrote:
> >>
> >> I always thought this mail list stripped attachments. I now know
> >
> > ... that it depends on their size?
> >
>
> At what
On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 09:52:43AM +, Curt wrote:
> On 2014-05-23, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
> >
> > While you are correct, the sentence structure leads one to expect 'box'
> > as a verb and 'ethernets' as a noun. Speaking as another native
> > speaker, it took me two passes to read what was intend
On 05/24/2014 09:06 AM, csanyi...@gmail.com wrote:
Well, I just tried that, but without success.
/etc/network/interfaces
---
auto eth0
iface eth0 inet static
address 217.17.111.173
netmask 255.255.255.0
gateway 217.17.111.1
# ifdown eth0
# ifup eth0
$ ping 8.8.8
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA512
On 05/24/2014 09:33 AM, Stephen Allen wrote:
> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 06:37:35PM +0200, Wim Bertels wrote:
>
>> Hallo,
>>
>> does anyone know a free program to display pictures and movies as a
>> presentation
>> (mplayer and vlc don't seem to do
On Sat 24 May 2014 at 21:16:26 +1200, C.T.F. Jansen wrote:
> Grub2 missed Microsoft Windows 8.1 on the internal hard disk during
> the install of Debian 7.1 to an external hard disk. It failed to
> detect another operating system in the mbr and was primed to over
> write it. A trap waiting to be s
On Sat 24 May 2014 at 09:56:59 -0400, Harry Putnam wrote:
> Apparently in all my fiddling, having changed the line in
> exim4.conf.template from satellite to internet, It has corrected
> update-exim4.conf.conf so that it reads:
>
> dc_eximconfig_configtype='smarthost'
A little apology from me he
On 25/05/14 02:04, Reco wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Sat, 24 May 2014 15:06:52 +0200
> csanyi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Well, I just tried that, but without success.
>
> /24 net allows 256 addresses. You've tried one (and is using another
> one), so it's 254 to go.
>
> As I wrote, if you don't want to g
Hi.
On Sat, 24 May 2014 15:06:52 +0200
csanyi...@gmail.com wrote:
> Well, I just tried that, but without success.
/24 net allows 256 addresses. You've tried one (and is using another
one), so it's 254 to go.
As I wrote, if you don't want to guess - check with your ISP.
Reco
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Brian writes:
> On Sat 24 May 2014 at 01:29:04 -0400, Harry Putnam wrote:
>
>> Brian writes:
>>
>> > On Thu 22 May 2014 at 22:43:37 -0400, Harry Putnam wrote:
>> >
>> >> I'll be back at it in 2wks or so.. I suspect it will be pretty simple
>> >> now.
>> >
>> > It should be after what follows:
On 25/05/14 01:06, csanyi...@gmail.com wrote:
>> > Assuming that your 217.17.111.173/24 address on eth0 is correct, you
>> > probably need to set up default gateway as 217.17.111.1 (and you really
>> > should check it with your ISP, they are the only ones who know this).
> I just mail to my ISP and
On 24/05/14 23:04, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> On 5/23/2014 11:41 PM, Richard Hector wrote:
>> On 24/05/14 12:27, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>> So, where is it storing files now? Just because they aren't in /tmp
>>> doesn't mean they don't exist - and won't eventually use up your inodes.
>>
>> Except that i
On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 08:55 -0400, Jeff Bauer wrote:
> "intellectual piss"
Ok, it's not my native language and possibly it could be misinterpreted
in a way, as advertisings give things human features, e.g. the engine
oil that is able to think. However, even piss might be able to think
more sophist
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 06:37:35PM +0200, Wim Bertels wrote:
> Hallo,
>
> does anyone know a free program to display pictures and movies as a
> presentation
> (mplayer and vlc don't seem to do that)
>
> eg ideally as simple as:
> $ programX -r media/
> would show them in a random order
>
> where
Brian writes:
> On Sat 24 May 2014 at 01:29:04 -0400, Harry Putnam wrote:
>
>> Brian writes:
>>
>> > On Thu 22 May 2014 at 22:43:37 -0400, Harry Putnam wrote:
>> >
>> >> I'll be back at it in 2wks or so.. I suspect it will be pretty simple
>> >> now.
>> >
>> > It should be after what follows:
On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 08:55 -0400, Jeff Bauer wrote:
> lulz "intellectual piss"
>
> Try a different translator, Ralf.
I guess the context is good enough to understand, that I tried to say
"intellectual work" that is not more helpful than a bottle of piss would
be, when you want to barter this int
Reco writes:
> On Sat, 24 May 2014 12:21:05 +0200
> csanyi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Yes, I thought as much, but don't know which IP address to add as a
>> default gateway in my case?
>>
>> The command should look like this:
>> # route add -net 10.0.0.0 netmask 255.0.0.0 gw 192.168.0.1 dev eth0
>
On 05/24/2014 08:49 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 14:07 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 13:58 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
Being against DRM isn't clownery :(. I made a living from artwork many
snip
PS: A "pirate" copy, shared cracked software could be good prom
On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 14:07 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 13:58 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > Being against DRM isn't clownery :(. I made a living from artwork many
> > times in my live, without the need of idiotic copy protections. If the
> > people who like your work don't l
I wrote:
> Google search works just fine with all ads, cookies, scripts, and
> trackers blocked.
Chris Bannister writes:
> It's probably easier to use https://startpage.com/ :-)
How is that easier?
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On Sat, 2014-05-24 at 13:58 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> Being against DRM isn't clownery :(. I made a living from artwork many
> times in my live, without the need of idiotic copy protections. If the
> people who like your work don't like to pay you, consider for what
> people you're making your w
On Fri, 2014-05-23 at 17:33 +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> Please continue on d-community-offtopic.
True, but I have to clarify something, see below.
> On 5/23/14, Steve Litt wrote:
> > On Sun, 18 May 2014 22:31:18 -0400
> > Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> >
> >
> >> > ...
> >> Copyright violation
On 24/05/14 12:04, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> On 5/23/2014 11:41 PM, Richard Hector wrote:
>> On 24/05/14 12:27, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>> So, where is it storing files now? Just because they aren't in /tmp
>>> doesn't mean they don't exist - and won't eventually use up your inodes.
>>
>> Except that i
On 5/23/2014 11:41 PM, Richard Hector wrote:
On 24/05/14 12:27, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
So, where is it storing files now? Just because they aren't in /tmp
doesn't mean they don't exist - and won't eventually use up your inodes.
Except that if they're in the 'normal' place (/var/lib/php5), there
Hi.
On Sat, 24 May 2014 12:21:05 +0200
csanyi...@gmail.com wrote:
> Yes, I thought as much, but don't know which IP address to add as a
> default gateway in my case?
>
> The command should look like this:
> # route add -net 10.0.0.0 netmask 255.0.0.0 gw 192.168.0.1 dev eth0
> ?
Mike McGinn writes:
> Comments below
> On Friday, May 23, 2014 11:52:43 csanyi...@gmail.com wrote:
>> csanyi...@gmail.com writes:
>> > So I tried with this setup:
>> > iface eth0 inet static
>> >
>> > address 217.17.111.173
>> > netmask 255.255.255.0
>>
>> but it doesn't work.
> I bui
On 2014-05-23, Wim Bertels wrote:
> Hallo,
>
> does anyone know a free program to display pictures and movies as a
> presentation
> (mplayer and vlc don't seem to do that)
>
Okular with latex-beamer, which probably doesn't satisfy the "easy
as pie" stipulation, but what the heck, it's Saturday.
On 2014-05-24, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 06:13:17AM -0400, Rodney D. Myers wrote:
>>
>> I always thought this mail list stripped attachments. I now know
>
> ... that it depends on their size?
>
At what kbyte threshold do they strip off all your attachments and leave your
a
On 2014-05-23, Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
>
> While you are correct, the sentence structure leads one to expect 'box'
> as a verb and 'ethernets' as a noun. Speaking as another native
> speaker, it took me two passes to read what was intended there.
>
Speaking as a disgruntled and often restless native
On Vi, 23 mai 14, 20:05:57, Tony Baldwin wrote:
>
> I found that /etc/apache2/php5.ini had session.save_path set to "/tmp".
> I rent a server from contabo, where this line is commented out, so I
> commented it out here on the little home server.
> No more sess files are being written to /tmp.
> I'
Greetings,
Grub2 missed Microsoft Windows 8.1 on the internal hard disk during the
install of Debian 7.1 to an external hard disk. It failed to detect
another operating system in the mbr and was primed to over write it. A
trap waiting to be sprung.
This was on a Toshiba C50D-A with the UEFI
On Sat 24 May 2014 at 17:51:19 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 01:29:04AM -0400, Harry Putnam wrote:
> > Brian writes:
> >
> > > On Thu 22 May 2014 at 22:43:37 -0400, Harry Putnam wrote:
> > >
> > >> I'll be back at it in 2wks or so.. I suspect it will be pretty simple
>
On Sat 24 May 2014 at 01:29:04 -0400, Harry Putnam wrote:
> Brian writes:
>
> > On Thu 22 May 2014 at 22:43:37 -0400, Harry Putnam wrote:
> >
> >> I'll be back at it in 2wks or so.. I suspect it will be pretty simple
> >> now.
> >
> > It should be after what follows::)
> >
> > In update-exim
On Sat 24 May 2014 at 00:54:07 -0400, Harry Putnam wrote:
> Brian writes:
>
> Darac Marjal wrote:
> >> For exim,
> >> http://www.manu-j.com/blog/wordpress-exim4-ubuntu-gmail-smtp/75/
> >> suggests to set the smarthost to "mail.messagingengine.com::587" (when
> >> using debconf) and to add a new
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