Debian Linux 7 and Realtek soundcards

2014-05-10 Thread Bret Busby
Hello. I have this weekend, managed to install Debian 7.5 amd64 xfce version onto a laptop computer. However, the sound does not work. In searching, I have found that the laptop apparently has a Realtek soundcard (and, an inbuilt Intel something soundcard thing). With Debian having elimina

Re: Confusion

2014-05-10 Thread Joel Rees
On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Joshua Anthony wrote: > > Hi all, > > Thanks for your responses - even from those who can't resist the opportunity > for rudeness. Unfortunately, we are not always in good moods, I guess. > > (I do NOT use microsoft windows in any form,) > > I confess to much i

Re: Confusion

2014-05-10 Thread Charlie
On Sat, 10 May 2014 18:03:35 -0700 (PDT) Joshua Anthony sent: > Doesn't anyone have a simple answer? > > Josh I will give it a go. Download the netinstall .iso file for the Debian version you want. Check the authenticity of the .iso file with md5sum Then, using whatever application you use to

Re: Confusion

2014-05-10 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 06:03:35PM -0700, Joshua Anthony wrote: > I have used GNU Linux for years - trying out several distros, all by > downloading the Iso file and writing to CD. Ubuntu, Slackware, Puppy, > and Gnewsense all install just fine after simply right-clicking on the > file and selectin

free space before the first and after the last partition if GPT partition scheme is used

2014-05-10 Thread Martin T
Hi, DebianInstaller shows "FREE SPACE" before the first partition and after the last partition if GPT scheme is used: http://i.imgur.com/qjNrdAx.jpg While there is nothing wrong with that as there is indeed some free space before the first partition and after the last partition(http://i.imgur.com/

Confusion

2014-05-10 Thread Joshua Anthony
Hi all, Thanks for your responses - even from those who can't resist the opportunity for rudeness. (I do NOT use microsoft windows in any form,) I confess to much ignorance of technical detail - despite 45 years as a computer support engineer, programmer and technical writer, I still find a lo

Re: Avoiding system d

2014-05-10 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 11/05/14 04:47, Brian wrote: > On Sat 10 May 2014 at 12:05:25 -0400, John wrote: > >> Thanks for practical help. I'm not looking for more flames. > > A couple of quotes from your mail: > > > "I find myself appalled at the rude and domineering attitudes of > > almost all systemd's defende

Re: How to get a log of fsck on boot partition when using systemd-sysv

2014-05-10 Thread Jape Person
On 05/10/2014 06:32 PM, Brandon Vincent wrote: On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Jape Person wrote: Hi, I just used # apt-get install systemd-sysv on several Debian testing systems (fully up-to-date). It has been my habit to use # touch /forcefsck to force a file system check at reboot on

minimal X.org xserver installation on Debian Wheezy

2014-05-10 Thread Martin T
Hi, I installed Debian Wheezy with no desktop environment as I would like to use lightweight dwm window manager instead. However, as a first step, I need to install xserver. I would like to install minimal components needed for running the xserver. What are the exact components(binaries, libraries

Re: Avoiding systemd

2014-05-10 Thread Steve Langasek
Hi John, On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 12:05:25PM -0400, John wrote: > After following the discussions of systemd (including everything on > debian-devel), I find myself appalled at the rude and domineering > attitudes of almost all systemd's defenders. I don't trust them. > Accordingly, I'd like to k

Anyone encountered the same "Mount failed" error when installing Debian 7.5 with "dmraid=true" on RAID1 server?

2014-05-10 Thread 釋淨明
Dear all, I'm a newbie in using Debian, my first task (and a good chance to learn using debian) is to setup an email server with the following hardware: Intel S1200btlr board (Intel C204 chipset) with a Xeon E3-1230v2 CPU on it 2*1T disks, form a RAID1 by intel embeded server raid technology II (

Re: How to get a log of fsck on boot partition when using systemd-sysv

2014-05-10 Thread Brandon Vincent
Jape, It sounds like the fsck is being conducted while the initramfs is loaded and thus no log is being saved. Ideally, there would be a way to have the console dumped to dmesg. Brandon Vincent On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Jape Person wrote: > Hi, > > I just used > > # apt-get install sys

How to get a log of fsck on boot partition when using systemd-sysv

2014-05-10 Thread Jape Person
Hi, I just used # apt-get install systemd-sysv on several Debian testing systems (fully up-to-date). It has been my habit to use # touch /forcefsck to force a file system check at reboot once per week on each system and to keep track of the results by copying the contents of /var/log/fsck/

Re: hdparm -t yields incorrect timings when Intel hyperthreading is enabled

2014-05-10 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 09 May 2014, Paul Ausbeck wrote: > I've actually done dummy file reads and writes previously. Well > actually just writes. And they go at full speed, no matter what > hparm says. For example, your example, works at full speed: > dd if=/dev/zero of=somefile bs=10M count=100 ; You have to c

Re: Default & supported service manager in Wheezy

2014-05-10 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2014-05-10 22:40 +0200, Tom H wrote: > On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 2:19 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby > wrote: > > >> A long time ago, when I was young ;-), services used to be managed with >> "invoke-rc.d" & "update-rc.d" on Debian. > > I've never understood why, but "invoke-rc.d" and "update-rc.d"

Re: Is Debian still Debian?

2014-05-10 Thread Tom H
On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 12:01 PM, John Hasler wrote: > David Guntner writes: >> >> Again, as someone else pointed out: The key word here is TESTING. You >> want less updates? Go with the current stable release. That has >> updates, but not as often. > > You can also just not install every update.

Re: Default & supported service manager in Wheezy

2014-05-10 Thread Tom H
On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 3:49 AM, Marko Randjelovic wrote: > On Wheezy, you can use: > > invoke-rc.d > service > /etc/init.d/ "invoke-rc.d" is meant for maintainer scripts and not users (don't ask me why). "/etc/init.d/ " doesn't sanitize the environment. > But Jessy will use systemd - sy

Re: Default & supported service manager in Wheezy

2014-05-10 Thread Tom H
On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 2:19 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby wrote: > A long time ago, when I was young ;-), services used to be managed with > "invoke-rc.d" & "update-rc.d" on Debian. I've never understood why, but "invoke-rc.d" and "update-rc.d" are meant for maintainer scripts not users. > Know

Re: Avoiding systemd

2014-05-10 Thread Cameron Norman
Greetings John, El Sat, 10 de May 2014 a las 9:05 AM, John escribió: After following the discussions of systemd (including everything on debian-devel), I find myself appalled at the rude and domineering attitudes of almost all systemd's defenders. I don't trust them. Accordingly, I'd like

Re: Avoiding system d

2014-05-10 Thread Brian
On Sat 10 May 2014 at 12:05:25 -0400, John wrote: > Thanks for practical help. I'm not looking for more flames. A couple of quotes from your mail: > "I find myself appalled at the rude and domineering attitudes of > almost all systemd's defenders." > "I don't trust them." You're not loo

Avoiding systemd

2014-05-10 Thread John
After following the discussions of systemd (including everything on debian-devel), I find myself appalled at the rude and domineering attitudes of almost all systemd's defenders. I don't trust them. Accordingly, I'd like to keep systemd off my machine (sid) to the extent practical until things

Re: Is Debian still Debian?

2014-05-10 Thread Jochen Spieker
Slavko: > > in last weeks (or months?) i see a lot of daily updates in Debian > testing. I am using the testing for years and i am surprised by this. The amount of updates that testing receives depends greatly on the current phase of the release cycle. I don't know whether there are hard numbers

Re: Is Debian still Debian?

2014-05-10 Thread David Guntner
John Hasler grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > David Guntner writes: >> Again, as someone else pointed out: The key word here is TESTING. You >> want less updates? Go with the current stable release. That has >> updates, but not as often. > > You can also just not install every update. There is n

Re: Is Debian still Debian?

2014-05-10 Thread John Hasler
David Guntner writes: > Again, as someone else pointed out: The key word here is TESTING. You > want less updates? Go with the current stable release. That has > updates, but not as often. You can also just not install every update. There is no reason to obsessively "track" Testing. -- John H

Re: Is Debian still Debian?

2014-05-10 Thread David Guntner
Slavko grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > Ahoj, > > Dňa Sat, 10 May 2014 13:00:56 +0100 Brian > napísal: > >> On Sat 10 May 2014 at 10:54:21 +0200, Slavko wrote: >> >>> in last weeks (or months?) i see a lot of daily updates in Debian >>> testing. I am using the testing for years and i am surprised

Re: How to use Debian ISOs as package sources in apt?

2014-05-10 Thread Brian
On Sat 10 May 2014 at 12:28:03 +1000, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 10/05/14 07:36, A Debian User wrote: > > > > Also, how do you make sure that apt checks that the packages on the DVDs > > are current, and retrieves the packages from the online mirrors, > > instead, if the aren't. > > I don't. Apt

Re: policykit and systemd

2014-05-10 Thread Slavko
Ahoj, Dňa Sat, 10 May 2014 14:09:45 +0200 Sven Joachim napísal: > On 2014-05-10 13:02 +0200, Slavko wrote: > > > E.g. policykit is updated and libpam-systemd and systemd installed > > as dependencies. There is not installation of the systemd-sysv (it > > is not installed yet of course)... > >

Re: Is Debian still Debian?

2014-05-10 Thread Brian
On Sat 10 May 2014 at 14:26:04 +0200, Slavko wrote: > Dňa Sat, 10 May 2014 13:00:56 +0100 Brian > napísal: > > > On Sat 10 May 2014 at 10:54:21 +0200, Slavko wrote: > > > > > in last weeks (or months?) i see a lot of daily updates in Debian > > > testing. I am using the testing for years and i

Re: Network Manager doesn't pick up network.

2014-05-10 Thread staticsafe
On 5/9/2014 21:44, Ed Jabbour wrote: > On Friday, May 09, 2014 12:47:45 PM staticsafe wrote: >> On 5/9/2014 11:28, Ed Jabbour wrote: >>> Running stable, kde and network-manager-gnome. The modem/router >>> provides two wireless network options - one 2.4 GHz, the other 5. >>> However, net/mgr only p

Re: iodined: open_tun: /dev/net/tun: Operation not permitted

2014-05-10 Thread Mr. Queue
On 5/10/2014 7:03 AM, Morning Star wrote: I got error when executing iodined at my vps: $ sudo iodined -f -P test1 192.168.0.1 localhost iodined: open_tun: /dev/net/tun: Operation not permitted: Operation not permitted You'll need to talk with your host. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-u

Re: policykit and systemd

2014-05-10 Thread Slavko
Ahoj, Dňa Sat, 10 May 2014 13:52:46 +0200 filip napísal: > On Sat, 10 May 2014 13:02:17 +0200 > Slavko wrote: > > > > > iuA policykit-1 > > piA libpam-systemd > > piA systemd > > > > E.g. policykit is updated and libpam-systemd and systemd installed > > as dependencies. There is not

Re: policykit and systemd

2014-05-10 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2014-05-10 13:02 +0200, Slavko wrote: > Dňa Sat, 10 May 2014 12:15:32 +0200 Sven Joachim > napísal: > >> On 2014-05-10 11:16 +0200, Slavko wrote: >> >> > Please, is the (in)direct dependency of the policykit on the >> > systemd bug or it is really needed? >> >> The dependency is needed, but

Re: Is Debian still Debian?

2014-05-10 Thread Slavko
Ahoj, Dňa Sat, 10 May 2014 13:00:56 +0100 Brian napísal: > On Sat 10 May 2014 at 10:54:21 +0200, Slavko wrote: > > > in last weeks (or months?) i see a lot of daily updates in Debian > > testing. I am using the testing for years and i am surprised by > > this. > > You are surprised that Debian

Re: policykit and systemd

2014-05-10 Thread filip
On Sat, 10 May 2014 13:02:17 +0200 Slavko wrote: > > iuA policykit-1 > piA libpam-systemd > piA systemd > > E.g. policykit is updated and libpam-systemd and systemd installed as > dependencies. There is not installation of the systemd-sysv (it is > not installed yet of course)... > > r

iodined: open_tun: /dev/net/tun: Operation not permitted

2014-05-10 Thread Morning Star
Hi guys, I got error when executing iodined at my vps: $ sudo iodined -f -P test1 192.168.0.1 localhost iodined: open_tun: /dev/net/tun: Operation not permitted: Operation not permitted so i check -. iodine version: iodine IP over DNS tunneling server version: 0.5.1 from 2009-03-21 -. uname 2.6

Re: Is Debian still Debian?

2014-05-10 Thread Brian
On Sat 10 May 2014 at 10:54:21 +0200, Slavko wrote: > in last weeks (or months?) i see a lot of daily updates in Debian > testing. I am using the testing for years and i am surprised by this. You are surprised that Debian developers are readying testing for the coming freeze by updating software

Re: policykit and systemd

2014-05-10 Thread Erwan David
Le 10/05/2014 12:15, Sven Joachim a écrit : > On 2014-05-10 11:16 +0200, Slavko wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> there was a lot of discussions about systemd. I don't want to start >> another one, but latest pilicykit update in testing gets policykit >> depends on systemd (via libpam-systemd). > What it reall

Re: Is Debian still Debian?

2014-05-10 Thread Alex Mestiashvili
Hi, On 05/10/2014 10:54 AM, Slavko wrote: Hi, in last weeks (or months?) i see a lot of daily updates in Debian testing. I am using the testing for years and i am surprised by this. testing is the key word, if you would use sid, you probably would wonder even more :) If there would be no upd

Re: policykit and systemd

2014-05-10 Thread Slavko
Hi, Dňa Sat, 10 May 2014 12:15:32 +0200 Sven Joachim napísal: > On 2014-05-10 11:16 +0200, Slavko wrote: > > > Please, is the (in)direct dependency of the policykit on the > > systemd bug or it is really needed? > > The dependency is needed, but you can still install systemd-shim > rather than

Re: policykit and systemd

2014-05-10 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2014-05-10 11:16 +0200, Slavko wrote: > Hi, > > there was a lot of discussions about systemd. I don't want to start > another one, but latest pilicykit update in testing gets policykit > depends on systemd (via libpam-systemd). What it really needs is a working logind, therefore the dependency

policykit and systemd

2014-05-10 Thread Slavko
Hi, there was a lot of discussions about systemd. I don't want to start another one, but latest pilicykit update in testing gets policykit depends on systemd (via libpam-systemd). I don't know, is it really needed? I don't want to switch to systemd yet. There was a lot of opinions (include me), t

Re: Is Debian still Debian?

2014-05-10 Thread Richard Hector
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/05/14 20:54, Slavko wrote: > in last weeks (or months?) i see a lot of daily updates in Debian > testing. I am using the testing for years and i am surprised by > this. My thoughts: If you're running testing, then it's reasonable you get updat

Is Debian still Debian?

2014-05-10 Thread Slavko
Hi, in last weeks (or months?) i see a lot of daily updates in Debian testing. I am using the testing for years and i am surprised by this. I encounter with this some years ago, when i was uisng Ubuntu as LTSP server, where i get 18 (by word eighteen) kernel updates in one year, and most of them