Re: xfce4-panels - bottom panel disappeared off the screen, after reboot without docking the laptop

2013-12-14 Thread Kailash Kalyani
On Sunday 15 December 2013 09:43 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: On 12/15/13, Kailash Kalyani wrote: On Sunday 15 December 2013 07:02 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: Any idea if there is some way to bring back my bottom xfce4-panel? I started with two external monitors, 1920x1200. I logout (save session

Re: xfce4-panels - bottom panel disappeared off the screen, after reboot without docking the laptop

2013-12-14 Thread Kailash Kalyani
On Sunday 15 December 2013 09:43 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: On 12/15/13, Kailash Kalyani wrote: On Sunday 15 December 2013 07:02 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: Any idea if there is some way to bring back my bottom xfce4-panel? I started with two external monitors, 1920x1200. I logout (save session

Re: taming syslog

2013-12-14 Thread Bob Proulx
Tony van der Hoff wrote: > So I thought I'd try to suppress these messages in syslog. Some googling > and reading man (5) syslog.conf, I decided that the line On Debian Wheezy the default is now rsyslog which has replaced the previous sysklogd package. AFAIK the rsyslog uses /etc/rsyslog.conf not

Re: xfce4-panels - bottom panel disappeared off the screen, after reboot without docking the laptop

2013-12-14 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 12/15/13, Kailash Kalyani wrote: > On Sunday 15 December 2013 07:02 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: >> Any idea if there is some way to bring back my bottom xfce4-panel? >> I started with two external monitors, 1920x1200. >> I logout (save session on exit), shutdown. >> Un-dock the laptop (disconnec

Re: xfce4-panels - bottom panel disappeared off the screen, after reboot without docking the laptop

2013-12-14 Thread Kailash Kalyani
On Sunday 15 December 2013 07:02 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: Any idea if there is some way to bring back my bottom xfce4-panel? I started with two external monitors, 1920x1200. I logout (save session on exit), shutdown. Un-dock the laptop (disconnecting both monitors). Now reboot (laptop only)

update-grub hangs when starting with systemd

2013-12-14 Thread Zenaan Harkness
Anyone know why update-grub would hang when started with systemd? Here is a successful normal run after booting with sysvinit: $ sudo update-grub Generating grub.cfg ... Found background image: /usr/share/images/desktop-base/desktop-grub.png Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.11-2-amd64 Found init

Re: systemd: truecrypt fails to mount with "Failed to set up a loop device: /my-data-file.tc"

2013-12-14 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 12/15/13, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > When booting with systemd, I can no longer mount truecrypt volumes, > with a pop-up error window displaying this message: > > Failed to set up a loop device: /my-data-file.tc Turns out, loop devices were no longer being created on bootup. I have following li

xfce4-panels - bottom panel disappeared off the screen, after reboot without docking the laptop

2013-12-14 Thread Zenaan Harkness
Any idea if there is some way to bring back my bottom xfce4-panel? I started with two external monitors, 1920x1200. I logout (save session on exit), shutdown. Un-dock the laptop (disconnecting both monitors). Now reboot (laptop only). Laptop has 1366x768 resolution. left hand dock is visible

Re: Soliciting hardware recommendations

2013-12-14 Thread Linux-Fan
On 12/14/2013 10:48 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > On Sat, 14 Dec 2013, Stephen Powell wrote: > >> On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 23:21:22 -0500 (EST), Patrick Bartek wrote: >>> >>> On Fri, 13 Dec 2013, Stephen Powell wrote: I have decided to buy a 64-bit system for myself for Christmas. But [sni

Re: sid? + xfce + kdm + systemd => problem

2013-12-14 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 12/15/13, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > 1) > I have only ever run eg the following, to disable a service (under > sysvinit): > cd /etc/init.d > mv S20kdm K20kdm systemctl disable kdm works fine here, and shows the sysvinit command that it runs for me: Executing /usr/sbin/update-rc.d kdm disable

systemd hanging on ls -l /media/

2013-12-14 Thread Zenaan Harkness
When I run ls -l /media/, the command hangs. Ctrl-C breaks the hang. For a minute or two, I get this: $ ls -l /media/ ^Cls: cannot access /media/SNAP01: Interrupted system call Now I get just this when I Ctrl-C: $ ls /media/ -l ^C Also (with artificial newlines added by me, to compensate fo

Re: sudo umount hangs when booting with systemd

2013-12-14 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 12/15/13, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On 12/15/13, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > >> /etc/fstab : > >> /zenlocal/zen/justa /home/justa none bind >> /zenlocal/zen/ /home/justa/zen none bind > > Removing these solved the problem. > Another small issue that arose when I uncommented the first of the > ab

Re: startx (with no per-user config) works, kdm has _issues_

2013-12-14 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 12/13/13, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > So I have no per-user config, such as ~/.xinitrc , ~/.xsession and > ~/.xsessionrc . > > startx after linux console login works well. That is, to start xfce > When I login to Linux console, then run > sudo service kdm start, and then login from there to xfce

Re: sudo umount hangs when booting with systemd

2013-12-14 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 12/15/13, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > /etc/fstab : > /zenlocal/zen/justa /home/justa none bind > /zenlocal/zen/ /home/justa/zen none bind Removing these solved the problem. I have unwound my two bind mount mounts (with the sequence as above - not recursive, but the latter bind mounted inside t

sudo umount hangs when booting with systemd

2013-12-14 Thread Zenaan Harkness
I have a directory /media/USB01 Nothing is mounted on this directory. When I run the following, after booting up with systemd, the command hangs: sudo umount /media/USB01 A Ctrl-C breaks the hang. $ cat /etc/fstab # /etc/fstab: static file system information. # # Use 'blkid' to print the univer

systemd: truecrypt fails to mount with "Failed to set up a loop device: /my-data-file.tc"

2013-12-14 Thread Zenaan Harkness
When booting with systemd, I can no longer mount truecrypt volumes, with a pop-up error window displaying this message: Failed to set up a loop device: /my-data-file.tc Any ideas? This has not happened normally - I use truecrypt every day just about. TIA Zenaan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to de

Re: taming syslog

2013-12-14 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 12/15/13, Tony van der Hoff wrote: > Running wheezy, fully up-to-date, with quite a busy postfix mail server, > my syslog is filling up with multi-millions of mail messages. Whilst > So I thought I'd try to suppress these messages in syslog. Some googling > Unfortunately, now nothing gets log

Using the GPU on the Intel i7-477

2013-12-14 Thread Robin Kipp
Hi all, I’ve got a server running Debian 7.1 Wheezy which uses an Intel Haswell i7-477 processor. This processor should have an on-board GPU that I’d like to use - first for scientific calculations using BOINC, and later for automated video rendering possibly. However, I don’t think Debian nati

Re: dselect in wheezy; Old timers question

2013-12-14 Thread Selim T. Erdogan
John W. Foster, 14.12.2013: > I'm managing a couple of remote VPS servers with no GUI access except > putty. I have been using dselect to assist with this process & up to > yesterday it worked well as it has for years. I did a apt-get > distupgrade and all went as expected and the system is running

Re: Deadline for jessie init system choice

2013-12-14 Thread Bob Proulx
Pavel Volkov wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > In the future if Debian changes to a new init then it will be set up > > such that there is an upgrade path from one to the other. Because > > there are *lots* of Debian machines out in the world and Debian is all > > about being able to upgrade. > > It

Re: Deadline for jessie init system choice

2013-12-14 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 09:06:43 +0100, Pavel Volkov wrote: Why do you think it will be systemd? Read the wiki page from my initial mail https://wiki.debian.org/Debate/initsystem You can click on "systemd", "upstart" etc. there and see why it's considered good or bad. I ask, because this is wha

sid? + xfce + kdm + systemd => problem

2013-12-14 Thread Zenaan Harkness
0) I'm running sid, xfce, kdm, now testing systemd, on a Lenovo Intel-based laptop with Intel graphics. 1) I have only ever run eg the following, to disable a service (under sysvinit): cd /etc/init.d mv S20kdm K20kdm I realise this is not quite right (the K_number should be 100 - S_number, but al

Re: Soliciting hardware recommendations

2013-12-14 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Sat, 14 Dec 2013, Stephen Powell wrote: > On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 23:21:22 -0500 (EST), Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > > On Fri, 13 Dec 2013, Stephen Powell wrote: > >> > >> I have decided to buy a 64-bit system for myself for Christmas. > >> But [snip] > >> > >> (1) As a host system for Hercules.

Re: Deadline for jessie init system choice

2013-12-14 Thread Bob Proulx
Pavel Volkov wrote: > Brian wrote: > > The call for release goals has finished and we have received the > > following proposals: > > > >* UTF-8 > > What's wrong with UTF-8 currently? fmt: incorrect formatting of UTF-8 text http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=650381 tr

Re: Printer problem

2013-12-14 Thread Brian
On Sat 14 Dec 2013 at 20:37:09 +0100, Siard wrote: > Gábor Hársfalvi wrote off-list: If his reply to my post was off-list it will never be seen by me (I only receive and respond to on-list mail) or (obviously) anyone else. If Gábor is looking for a response he should check whether any mail was se

Re: startx + ~/.xsession and no ~/.xinitrc, results in reduced functionality (xfce4, sid)

2013-12-14 Thread Brian
On Sun 15 Dec 2013 at 06:29:52 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > JFTR, I am running FVWM and have the following: > tal% less .xsessionrc > /home/chrisb/background.sh & > > xterm -fn 10x20 -xrm "XTerm.vt100.background: #CCA8AA" -xrm \ > "XTerm.vt100.foreground: blue" -geom 120x15 & > tal% You sta

Re: startx + ~/.xsession and no ~/.xinitrc, results in reduced functionality (xfce4, sid)

2013-12-14 Thread Charlie
On Sun, 15 Dec 2013 06:29:52 +1300 Chris Bannister sent: > I do remember this issue in the past, a google was not very helpful - > and may even have been misleading - e.g. suggesting that .xsessionrc > was the correct file to use. And since .xsession or .xinitrc didn't > work I must have assumed

Re: Printer problem

2013-12-14 Thread Siard
Gábor Hársfalvi wrote off-list: > Thanks. > > So we could tell the driver to use only the black ink for black > texts/images? No. A document containing composite black text is simply not suitable for printing. You should try to get a better document. Of course, you can tell the driver to print

Re: Soliciting hardware recommendations

2013-12-14 Thread David Christensen
On 12/14/2013 09:05 AM, Glenn English wrote: Over the past decade or so, I've had amazingly good luck with plain old low-end Dell tower servers (small business area). +1 on used Dell Optiplex, Precision, and PowerEdge products. David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.d

Re: dselect in wheezy; Old timers question

2013-12-14 Thread Nate Bargmann
Perhaps using the Aptitude UI (Ncurses TUI) will let you unselect the currently selected packages. - Nate -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://www.n0nb.us -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: How to install Packages on Debian-Wheezy

2013-12-14 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 03:11:47PM -0200, André Nunes Batista wrote: > might have and you will be able to use "dpkg" which stands for > "de-package" to install it on your system. Otherwise you will have to Just wondering what your source was for that info. e.g: http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.co

Re: How to install Packages on Debian-Wheezy

2013-12-14 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 09:21:19AM -0500, Wally Lepore wrote: > Hi Scott, > > On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Scott Ferguson > wrote: > > On 13/12/13 00:59, Wally Lepore wrote: > >> > >> http://www.aboutdebian.com/packages.htm > > > > Wow! What a... site :/ > > Not sure I understand. This stan

Re: Printer problem

2013-12-14 Thread Siard
Gábor Hársfalvi wrote: > We have got a HP Inkjet f2180 printer and we need use pure black ink > instead of composite black every time. > > How to do this? The document to be printed should contain pure black, that is, CMYK values C=0% M=0% Y=0% K=100%. Printing offices also require this if you ha

Re: startx + ~/.xsession and no ~/.xinitrc, results in reduced functionality (xfce4, sid)

2013-12-14 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 02:23:48PM +, Brian wrote: > On Thu 12 Dec 2013 at 00:21:18 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: > > > The man page for Xsession documents ~/.xsessionrc and ~/.xsession. It > > says that ~/.xsessionrc is only for setting variables and the > > ~/.xsession is for executing commands.

taming syslog

2013-12-14 Thread Tony van der Hoff
Hi, Running wheezy, fully up-to-date, with quite a busy postfix mail server, my syslog is filling up with multi-millions of mail messages. Whilst these are useful at times, they are obscuring other important stuff, and appear in /var/log/mail.log in any case. So I thought I'd try to suppress thes

Re: Soliciting hardware recommendations

2013-12-14 Thread Glenn English
On Dec 14, 2013, at 6:23 AM, Stephen Powell wrote: > I have a four-year college degree in Electrical Engineering. I graduated > a long time ago, and my degree is probably not marketable for anything > other than engineering management at this point, but at least I have the > background. My "da

dselect in wheezy; Old timers question

2013-12-14 Thread John W. Foster
I'm managing a couple of remote VPS servers with no GUI access except putty. I have been using dselect to assist with this process & up to yesterday it worked well as it has for years. I did a apt-get distupgrade and all went as expected and the system is running fine. However after I did the upgra

Re: Installation needs some work on

2013-12-14 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 13 December 2013 21:32:25 Userx Xbw wrote: > you people wrote it No, we didn't actually. This is the USERS list. Those who wrote it are on the developers list. (Some do in fact use this list, but this is still the wrong list to discuss development.) Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: coloured prompt for root (was ... Re: Reporting missing package during install)

2013-12-14 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 02:13:18PM +0100, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: > Chris Bannister writes: > > > This is in a tty, so don't know what will happen in an xterm or other > > virtual terminal. > > The virtual terminals usually honour ANSI escape sequences. For sure > xterm, the rxvt family and th

Re: Soliciting hardware recommendations

2013-12-14 Thread Stephen Powell
On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 02:39:04 -0500 (EST), David Christensen wrote: > > I did something similar ~1.5 years ago. I wanted virtualization, > whole-drive encryption, on-board video, on-board sound, on-board > Gigabit, and reduced energy consumption/ noise. You have requirements that I don't have.

Re: Printer problem

2013-12-14 Thread Brian
On Sat 14 Dec 2013 at 11:22:08 +0100, Gábor Hársfalvi wrote: > We have got a HP Inkjet f2180 printer and we need use pure black ink > instead of composite black every time. > > How to do this? What driver package and PPD are you using? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.deb

Re: Soliciting hardware recommendations

2013-12-14 Thread Stephen Powell
On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 23:21:22 -0500 (EST), Patrick Bartek wrote: > > On Fri, 13 Dec 2013, Stephen Powell wrote: >> >> I have decided to buy a 64-bit system for myself for Christmas. But >> [snip] >> >> (1) As a host system for Hercules. Hercules is an open source >> [snip] >> >> (2) This syste

Re: Having weird seqfaults

2013-12-14 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Goren Buckwalk a écrit : > > Could the segfaulting be caused by overheating? I thought when older > CPUs overheated they just ran until the circuits melted (this is an AMD > K6-2 450). More recent ones shutdown before damage can occur. But > whatever occurs I thought happend to everything, there i

Re: Hardware Question about RAM and Capacitors

2013-12-14 Thread Curt
On 2013-12-13, Goren Buckwalk wrote: > > Maybe that is it, I'll replace it when I get the chance (as Jerry and > others suggest), but keep the board to see if I get the time to try > replacing the capacitors and not really care if it works or not, as > entertainment. I'll probably just burn myself

Re: Deadline for jessie init system choice

2013-12-14 Thread Brian
On Fri 13 Dec 2013 at 18:13:29 +, Brian wrote: > On Fri 13 Dec 2013 at 11:38:31 +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > On Jo, 12 dec 13, 20:00:44, Brian wrote: > > > > > > Debian doesn't have deadlines. You'll have to wait. Think in terms of > > > a couple of years for a decision to be made. > >

Re: sudo security Was: Reporting missing package during install

2013-12-14 Thread Gian Uberto Lauri
The same terminal or the same shell? -- Gian Uberto Lauri Messaggio inviato da un tablet > On 14/dic/2013, at 09:09, Nemeth Gyorgy wrote: > > 2013-12-13 17:22 keltezéssel, John Hasler írta: >>> ...must have successfully authenticated >>> to execute a sudo command once >> >> Within the last 15

Printer problem

2013-12-14 Thread Gábor Hársfalvi
Hi, We have got a HP Inkjet f2180 printer and we need use pure black ink instead of composite black every time. How to do this?

Re: (SOLVED) Re: Backported Kernel - install question

2013-12-14 Thread Kailash Kalyani
On Saturday 14 December 2013 02:22 PM, Reco wrote: Hi. On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 12:06:15 +0530 Kailash Kalyani wrote: Apt-get gave me the following error: The following packages have unmet dependencies: linux-image-3.11-0.bpo.2-686-pae : Breaks: initramfs-tools (< 0.110~) but 0.109.1 is to b

Re: (SOLVED) Re: Backported Kernel - install question

2013-12-14 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 12:06:15 +0530 Kailash Kalyani wrote: > Apt-get gave me the following error: > > The following packages have unmet dependencies: > linux-image-3.11-0.bpo.2-686-pae : Breaks: initramfs-tools (< 0.110~) > but 0.109.1 is to be installed > E: Unable to correct problems,

Re: (SOLVED) Re: Backported Kernel - install question

2013-12-14 Thread Kailash Kalyani
On Saturday 14 December 2013 12:06 PM, Kailash Kalyani wrote: On Friday 13 December 2013 02:32 AM, Reco wrote: Hi. On Thu, 12 Dec 2013 21:33:45 +0100 Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Thu, 2013-12-12 at 21:32 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: I experienced that synaptic for *buntu Saucy is broken, perhaps i

Re: sudo security Was: Reporting missing package during install

2013-12-14 Thread Nemeth Gyorgy
2013-12-13 17:22 keltezéssel, John Hasler írta: >> ...must have successfully authenticated >> to execute a sudo command once > > Within the last 15 minutes. ... from the same terminal. Don't forget this criteria because it is important. -- --- Friczy --- 'Death is not a bug, it's a feature'

Re: Deadline for jessie init system choice

2013-12-14 Thread Pavel Volkov
On Friday 13 December 2013 17:26:01 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > So if I later today set up Debian stable, I better directly drop init > and install systemd during installation? I dislike systemd, but I > already use it for a long time with my Arch Linux. > > IOW, Debian will drop init and will switch to

Re: Deadline for jessie init system choice

2013-12-14 Thread Pavel Volkov
On Friday 13 December 2013 10:44:24 Bob Proulx wrote: > In the future if Debian changes to a new init then it will be set up > such that there is an upgrade path from one to the other. Because > there are *lots* of Debian machines out in the world and Debian is all > about being able to upgrade.