Re: how to activate php in apache

Jerry Stuckle wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > Jerry Stuckle wrote: > > > Ownership of the directory is root:root, but the scripts should > > > *never* be owned by root:root. > > > > Uhmm... No. There is no problem whatsoever with php files being > > owned by root:root. Why do you think it is a pr

Re: plese stop Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

AP grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > On Tuesday, December 03, 2013 01:27:31 PM David Guntner wrote: > >> There's a Debian >> "Off Topic" list for that, and you bloody well know it. > > Well, email client discussion is off-topic...? A wonder...! Look at this list's name. It's DEBIAN-user. Tie the

Re: "Best Mail Client" - Was: [closed] A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

On Tuesday, December 03, 2013 11:40:24 PM Neal Murphy wrote: > > Oh Okay. How can headers be read in KMail...? > Tap 'v'. Oh thanks...Long long description...covered every detail, I believe -- Regards, AP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject o

Re: "Best Mail Client" - Was: [closed] A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

On Tuesday, December 03, 2013 06:06:14 PM AP wrote: > On Tuesday, December 03, 2013 07:05:50 PM Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > I can see it in the header of your mail: > > > > "KMail/4.10.5 (Linux/3.7.10-1.16-desktop; KDE/4.10.5; i686; ; )" FWIW, > > your mail seems to be perfect :) but I didn't check if

Re: plese stop Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

On Tuesday, December 03, 2013 01:27:31 PM David Guntner wrote: > There's a Debian > "Off Topic" list for that, and you bloody well know it. Well, email client discussion is off-topic...? A wonder...! -- Regards, AP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subj

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

On Tuesday, December 03, 2013 02:38:38 PM Jerry Stuckle wrote: > >> And the best way to avoid is to type the website rather to click some > >> link. > I think what he's referring to is the visible link normally has a > recognizable website such as www.example.com, while the actual link > takes yo

Re: "Best Mail Client" - Was: [closed] A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

On Tuesday, December 03, 2013 07:05:50 PM Ralf Mardorf wrote: > I can see it in the header of your mail: > "KMail/4.10.5 (Linux/3.7.10-1.16-desktop; KDE/4.10.5; i686; ; )" FWIW, > your mail seems to be perfect :) but I didn't check if the thread is > ok ;). Oh Okay. How can headers be read in KM

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

On Tuesday, December 03, 2013 01:15:21 PM Jerry Stuckle wrote: > And exactly what is wrong with using cookies on a bank transaction? > In fact, all banks I know of need to use cookies to manage signons. > It's how the bank (or any site that uses signons) knows which computer > is signed on. > Yo

Re: "Best Mail Client" - Was: [closed] A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

On Tuesday, December 03, 2013 12:46:05 PM Brad Alexander wrote: > I like kmail's interfaces. It's just the backend encryption that has a > problem. For whatever reason, it won't let me decrypt and add my s/mime > certificate on my installation at work, and at home, it uses gpg Can you please l

Re: L2TP VPN configuration

On Tue, Dec 03, 2013 at 09:28:20AM -0500, Rob Owens wrote: > I've followed a couple different tutorials on the internet, but I haven't > been able to use L2TP to connect to a VPN from my Wheezy desktop. > Connecting from an Android device works, so I know the server and my > credentials are ok. >

Re: Stopping early crypto disks fails

On Tue, 03 Dec 2013 17:43:39 +0100 Volker Wysk wrote: > Hi ! > > I've encrypted my hard drives, but when I shut down the computer, amongst the > shutdown messages, I get the following message: > > [fail] Stopping early crypto disks vg-root_crypt (busy) failed > > I'm wondering what's goin on,

Re: how to activate php in apache

On 12/3/2013 7:59 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: Jerry Stuckle wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: Jerry Stuckle wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: does not work in /var/ (with 644 permissions) How did /var/www get 644 permissions? That is also incorrect. The OP is talking about a script. Look again: "does not wo

Re: how to activate php in apache

François Patte wrote: > Le 03/12/2013 00:14, Bob Proulx a écrit : > > François Patte wrote: > >> I'd like to anable php with apache web server. > >> > >> apache2 is installed > >> php5 is installed. > >> apache php module is activated > > > > The above is just too vague and ambiguous. Do you mean

Re: how to activate php in apache

Jerry Stuckle wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > >Jerry Stuckle wrote: > >>Bob Proulx wrote: > does not work in /var/ (with 644 permissions) > >>>How did /var/www get 644 permissions? That is also incorrect. > > The OP is talking about a script. Look again: > "does not work in /var/ (with 6

Re: Getting apt-cdrom to work

On Fri, 29 Nov 2013 21:56:37 -0500 Brian Sammon wrote: > I'm trying to get apt to install packages from a Debian 7.0.0 CD (just > disc 1) I made a while ago. So, it turns out that was apt was looking in varying places for the CD mount point. Sometimes it was looking in /media/apt, and sometim

Re: Getting apt-cdrom to work

On 12/4/13, Brian Sammon wrote: > On Fri, 29 Nov 2013 21:56:37 -0500 > Brian Sammon wrote: > >> I'm trying to get apt to install packages from a Debian 7.0.0 CD (just >> disc 1) I made a while ago. > > So, it turns out that was apt was looking in varying places for the CD mount > point. Sometime

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

Ralf Mardorf wrote: > I know the story, but I wasn't aware about this: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Iceweasel_13.png > > The Iceweasel logo, but the _Google_ text is: "Thanks for choosing > Firefox!" That text is from the Iceweasel start page not the Google start page. Google didn't sa

Re: Getting apt-cdrom to work

On Fri, 29 Nov 2013 21:56:37 -0500 Brian Sammon wrote: > I'm trying to get apt to install packages from a Debian 7.0.0 CD (just > disc 1) I made a while ago. So, it turns out that was apt was looking in varying places for the CD mount point. Sometimes it was looking in /media/apt, and sometim

Re: Squeeze dpkg --get-selections usable in any way in Wheezy?

On Tuesday 03 December 2013 22:51:11 Brad Alexander wrote: > On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Neal Murphy wrote: > > On Tuesday, December 03, 2013 05:26:37 PM Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > I have had another failed upgrade. Before I tried to upgrade, > > > I ran dpkg --get-selections and saved the resul

Re: My apologies

On Tue 03 Dec 2013 at 23:06:07 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > no doubt about it, many of my mails were unneeded, but the most mails > for "the thread", some from me, many from others, were absolutely ok. Most mails were OK? The original questions concerned (i) Which Distribution: and (ii)

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

On Tue, 03 Dec 2013 07:59:12 +0100 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Mon, 2013-12-02 at 23:38 -0500, Celejar wrote: > > On Mon, 02 Dec 2013 14:17:20 +0100 > > Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > > > On Mon, 2013-12-02 at 08:09 -0500, Celejar wrote: > > > > Sorry, don't know rocketmail. > > > > > > Nowadays occup

Re: My apologies

On 12/3/2013 4:06 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > no doubt about it, many of my mails were unneeded, but the most mails > for "the thread", some from me, many from others, were absolutely ok. Agreed, and thank you Ralf. > If I should write again too much off-topic, please send me a note > off-list. If

Re: Squeeze dpkg --get-selections usable in any way in Wheezy?

On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Neal Murphy wrote: > On Tuesday, December 03, 2013 05:26:37 PM Lisi Reisz wrote: > > I have had another failed upgrade. Before I tried to upgrade, I ran > > dpkg --get-selections and saved the result in a file. > > > > I am obviously going to have to install Wheezy

Re: Squeeze dpkg --get-selections usable in any way in Wheezy?

On Tuesday, December 03, 2013 05:26:37 PM Lisi Reisz wrote: > I have had another failed upgrade. Before I tried to upgrade, I ran > dpkg --get-selections and saved the result in a file. > > I am obviously going to have to install Wheezy from scratch. Is there > any way I can make use of Squeeze'

Squeeze dpkg --get-selections usable in any way in Wheezy?

I have had another failed upgrade. Before I tried to upgrade, I ran dpkg --get-selections and saved the result in a file. I am obviously going to have to install Wheezy from scratch. Is there any way I can make use of Squeeze's package list to give the owner of the box the same applications/p

My apologies

no doubt about it, many of my mails were unneeded, but the most mails for "the thread", some from me, many from others, were absolutely ok. If I should write again too much off-topic, please send me a note off-list. If a newbie does ask something that is not Debian related enough for your taste, p

Re: plese stop Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

On Tue 03 Dec 2013 at 22:43:19 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > JFTR it wasn't me who did the last replies, it were other users. Those > other users talked about cookies and IMO this explanations, opinions > about cookies are not off-topic. Don't call me stupid, while you plays It wasn't me, guv. Hon

Re: aptitude: cancel intended install

On 03/12/13 22:57, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Ma, 03 dec 13, 12:21:46, Richard Hector wrote: >> >> That doesn't remove all those packages from the list. Is that a bug? Is >> there another way to cancel these planned installations? I think that's >> doable with interactive aptitude, but I'd rather s

Re: OT: "Best Mail Client" - Was: [closed] A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 21:38 +, Brian wrote: > On Tue 03 Dec 2013 at 20:03:50 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > Grammar checking doesn't work until today, but psychotherapy done by > > ELIZA is quite close to a real psychotherapy ;). I really fear the > > weapon systems that are "perfect" and sh

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

On Tue 03 Dec 2013 at 21:21:30 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > I guess much more exemplary than "child porn detection" is "virus > detection". > > "We detect a virus on you Windows install", on a Linux only machine ;). > > There must be some hidden Windows installs with tons of child porn > routeki

Re: plese stop Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 15:22 -0600, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > On 12/3/2013 2:45 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 14:39 -0600, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > >> This thread began on Nov 24th, 10 days ago. There have been 211 posts > >> (including this one) in this thread. I dare say it ceased

Re: OT: "Best Mail Client" - Was: [closed] A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

On Tue 03 Dec 2013 at 20:03:50 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Grammar checking doesn't work until today, but psychotherapy done by > ELIZA is quite close to a real psychotherapy ;). I really fear the > weapon systems that are "perfect" and should not cause collateral > damages. Some of my childhood

Re: plese stop Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

Ralf Mardorf grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 14:39 -0600, Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> This thread began on Nov 24th, 10 days ago. There have been 211 posts >> (including this one) in this thread. I dare say it ceased being >> productive or insightful many, many posts ago. And i

Re: plese stop Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

On 12/3/2013 2:45 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 14:39 -0600, Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> This thread began on Nov 24th, 10 days ago. There have been 211 posts >> (including this one) in this thread. I dare say it ceased being >> productive or insightful many, many posts ago. And it

Re: plese stop Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 14:39 -0600, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > This thread began on Nov 24th, 10 days ago. There have been 211 posts > (including this one) in this thread. I dare say it ceased being > productive or insightful many, many posts ago. And it ceased having > anything to do with Debian Lin

Re: Problem Installing VMWare Tools in Debian Testing/Jessie

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Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

On Tue, 03 Dec 2013 22:28:31 +0630 AP wrote: > On Tuesday, December 03, 2013 11:56:34 AM Jerry Stuckle wrote: > > > Cookies themselves are not evil. It's how some marketers have used > > cookies that is evil. > > Unless you did a bank transaction! > One would hope that no bank was stupid eno

plese stop Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

This thread began on Nov 24th, 10 days ago. There have been 211 posts (including this one) in this thread. I dare say it ceased being productive or insightful many, many posts ago. And it ceased having anything to do with Debian Linux quite a while ago. Let's move on to something worthwhile. -

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

On Tue, Dec 03, 2013 at 01:07:59PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: ...snip... > > You can use all of the mentioned MUAs. > > Kmail, Evolution, Sylpheed-Claws, Thunderbird/Icedove and Opera, they > all are usable. Regarding to security there are other options, that are > independent

Re: cifs mount problem

On 12/03/2013 05:22 AM, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: Still waiting for help, if possible. You might want to try the Samba mailing list: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba HTH, David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe"

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

On Tue, Dec 03, 2013 at 09:38:51AM -0600, y...@marupa.net wrote: > On Tuesday, December 03, 2013 12:12:36 AM Robert Holtzman wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 02, 2013 at 11:51:41AM -0600, y...@marupa.net wrote: > > > > .snip. > > > > > Oh, that does clear it up. But again, I don't

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 21:16 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 19:45 +, Brad Rogers wrote: > > On Tue, 3 Dec 2013 12:24:50 -0700 > > Robert Holtzman wrote: > > > > Hello Robert, > > > > >Wrong. Evil web sites don't care how you access them, clicking or > > >typing. > > > > T

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 19:45 +, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Tue, 3 Dec 2013 12:24:50 -0700 > Robert Holtzman wrote: > > Hello Robert, > > >Wrong. Evil web sites don't care how you access them, clicking or > >typing. > > That's true of course. I think AP's point (expressed poorly perhaps) is > t

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

On Tue, 3 Dec 2013 12:24:50 -0700 Robert Holtzman wrote: Hello Robert, >Wrong. Evil web sites don't care how you access them, clicking or >typing. That's true of course. I think AP's point (expressed poorly perhaps) is that a phishing email will likely contain a link to a web site that imperso

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

On 12/3/2013 2:24 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: On Tue, Dec 03, 2013 at 03:56:21PM +0530, AP wrote: On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 5:06 AM, Paul E Condon wrote: Phishing is not virus. Phishing is play tricks on your mind and senses. Finding ways to make you believe things that are not true. To the exten

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

On Tue, Dec 03, 2013 at 08:51:44PM +0630, AP wrote: > On Tuesday, December 03, 2013 08:19:27 AM John Hasler wrote: > > > Gnus is very different from all other MUAs. > > Well. A wonderful post, filled with information. -- Bob Holtzman Your mail is being read by tight lipped NSA agents who fail

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

On Tue, Dec 03, 2013 at 03:56:21PM +0530, AP wrote: > On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 5:06 AM, Paul E Condon > wrote: > > > Phishing is not virus. Phishing is play tricks on your mind and > > senses. Finding ways to make you believe things that are not true. To > > the extent that your environment is kno

Re: CD drive not showing up anymore

Ahoj, Dňa Tue, 03 Dec 2013 10:38:00 +0100 Ralf Mardorf napísal: > On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 10:31 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 10:23 +0100, Matthias Bodenbinder wrote: > > > Can this be a dbus issue? > > > > MO it could, but as written off-list in German, udev might be the >

Re: aptitude: cancel intended install

On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 12:14 AM, Richard Hector wrote: > On 03/12/13 12:55, Tom H wrote: >> >> I don't know whether or not it's a bug but this should work: >> >> aptitude remove $(aptitude search ~ainstall -F%p) > > That's great, thanks - the -F option is new to me and will be very > useful :-) Y

OT: "Best Mail Client" - Was: [closed] A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 13:35 -0500, Neal Murphy wrote: > On Tuesday, December 03, 2013 01:05:50 PM Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > I'm a dyslexic and spell checking is > > a default for all MUAs I use ... but not really helpful. Spell checking > > doesn't notice the difference between "be" and "bee" or "

Re: "Best Mail Client" - Was: [closed] A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

On Tuesday, December 03, 2013 01:05:50 PM Ralf Mardorf wrote: > I'm a dyslexic and spell checking is > a default for all MUAs I use ... but not really helpful. Spell checking > doesn't notice the difference between "be" and "bee" or "then" and > "than", it still allows me to write as an idiot :D.

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 12:29 -0500, Stephen P. Molnar wrote: > > -Original Message- > From: John Hasler [mailto:jhas...@newsguy.com] > Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 12:17 PM > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related > > Ple

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

On 12/3/2013 10:58 AM, AP wrote: On Tuesday, December 03, 2013 11:56:34 AM Jerry Stuckle wrote: Cookies themselves are not evil. It's how some marketers have used cookies that is evil. Unless you did a bank transaction! And exactly what is wrong with using cookies on a bank transaction?

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 09:38 -0600, y...@marupa.net wrote: > Google Yesno, people who use twitter and facebook don't need to care about a Google search ;). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.

Re: "Best Mail Client" - Was: [closed] A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 21:02 +0630, AP wrote: > On Tuesday, December 03, 2013 02:42:10 PM Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > Then it's time for me to post this link: > > > http://dot.kde.org/2004/11/02/kontactkmail-awarded-best-mail-client > > > KMail was an award winner, for being the best GUI MUA. I dis

Re: "Best Mail Client" - Was: [closed] A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 8:42 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 18:19 +0530, AP wrote: > > close this thread now > > Then it's time for me to post this link: > > http://dot.kde.org/2004/11/02/kontactkmail-awarded-best-mail-client > > KMail was an award winner, for being the best GUI MU

RE: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

-Original Message- From: John Hasler [mailto:jhas...@newsguy.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 12:17 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related Please read this: -- John Hasler

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

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Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

On Tuesday, December 03, 2013 11:56:34 AM Jerry Stuckle wrote: > Cookies themselves are not evil. It's how some marketers have used > cookies that is evil. Unless you did a bank transaction! -- Regards, AP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "

Stopping early crypto disks fails

Hi ! I've encrypted my hard drives, but when I shut down the computer, amongst the shutdown messages, I get the following message: [fail] Stopping early crypto disks vg-root_crypt (busy) failed I'm wondering what's goin on, and if there needs to be done something about it. Except for the messa

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

On Tuesday, December 03, 2013 11:02:17 AM John Hasler wrote: > Iceweasel -> Preferences -> Privacy -> follow instructions Or: Firefox -> Preferences -> Privacy -> follow instructions Thanks. -- Regards, AP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

On 12/3/2013 9:22 AM, AP wrote: On Tuesday, December 03, 2013 08:16:33 AM John Hasler wrote: Google is great I agree but only it should not collect one's personal information It won't collect anything you don't give it. Google search works fine with no Google account, no scripts, no cookies

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

I wrote: > You don't need addons to refuse cookies. AP writes: > Well, what I know is that by default it saves and it never prompted me > to ask if to store or not. By my own decision I had to install Better > Privacy and then I was assured for it. Can you please elaborate the > other method...?

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

On Tuesday, December 03, 2013 10:12:50 AM John Hasler wrote: > You don't need addons to refuse cookies. Well, what I know is that by default it saves and it never prompted me to ask if to store or not. By my own decision I had to install Better Privacy and then I was assured for it. Can you ple

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

AP writes: > Oh I see, you mean like using BetterPrivacy type Addons...right. You don't need addons to refuse cookies. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

I wrote: > [Google search] won't collect anything you don't give it. Google > search works fine with no Google account, no scripts, no cookies, and > no referrers. AP writes: > Doesn't it store cookies? Only if you allow it to. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBS

Pinning OwnCloud

Hello, I'm trying to install owncloud-client. It's in testing repository and is not compatible with some libraries. It seams that version from http://software.opensuse.org/download is working OK with wheezy. With that repository, aptitude does not complain. If I remove testing from sources.list e

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

On Tuesday, December 03, 2013 05:00:49 PM Siard wrote: > JH means: Google search still works fine when you refuse cookies. Oh I see, you mean like using BetterPrivacy type Addons...right. -- Regards, AP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsu

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

AP: > John Hasler: > > AP: > > > Google is great I agree but only it should not collect one's > > > personal information > > > It won't collect anything you don't give it. Google search works > > fine with no Google account, no scripts, no cookies, and no > > referrers. > > Doesn't it store cook

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

On Tuesday, December 03, 2013 12:12:36 AM Robert Holtzman wrote: > On Mon, Dec 02, 2013 at 11:51:41AM -0600, y...@marupa.net wrote: > > .snip. > > > Oh, that does clear it up. But again, I don't see that as a "free vs. > > nonfree" issue. Most software will choose defaul

Re: "Best Mail Client" - Was: [closed] A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

On Tuesday, December 03, 2013 02:42:10 PM Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Then it's time for me to post this link: > http://dot.kde.org/2004/11/02/kontactkmail-awarded-best-mail-client > KMail was an award winner, for being the best GUI MUA. I disagree ;), > for me there still is no best or "less best". I

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

On Tuesday, December 03, 2013 08:16:33 AM John Hasler wrote: > > Google is great I agree but only it should not collect one's personal > > information > It won't collect anything you don't give it. Google search works fine > with no Google account, no scripts, no cookies, and no referrers. Does

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

On Tuesday, December 03, 2013 08:19:27 AM John Hasler wrote: > Gnus is very different from all other MUAs. Well. -- Thanks & Regards, AP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: ht

Re: how to activate php in apache[solved]

On 12/3/2013 8:18 AM, François Patte wrote: Le 03/12/2013 14:07, Linux-Fan a écrit : On 12/03/2013 10:50 AM, François Patte wrote: You misunderstood the sentence: the file where the php command is written is in /var/www and has 644 permissions... (/var/www has, of course, 755 permissions). Re-

L2TP VPN configuration

I've followed a couple different tutorials on the internet, but I haven't been able to use L2TP to connect to a VPN from my Wheezy desktop. Connecting from an Android device works, so I know the server and my credentials are ok. Has anybody on the list successfully connected to a VPN using L2TP?

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

AP writes: > Why this is [Gnus] an exception? Gnus is very different from all other MUAs. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

AP writes: > Google is great I agree but only it should not collect one's personal > information It won't collect anything you don't give it. Google search works fine with no Google account, no scripts, no cookies, and no referrers. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UN

Re: how to activate php in apache

On 12/3/2013 3:03 AM, Bob Proulx wrote: Jerry Stuckle wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: does not work in /var/ (with 644 permissions) How did /var/www get 644 permissions? That is also incorrect. chmod u=rwx,go+rx /var/www 'x' is not required for Apache php scripts. Unlike PHP CLI, the scr

"Best Mail Client" - Was: [closed] A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 18:19 +0530, AP wrote: > close this thread now Then it's time for me to post this link: http://dot.kde.org/2004/11/02/kontactkmail-awarded-best-mail-client KMail was an award winner, for being the best GUI MUA. I disagree ;), for me there still is no best or "less best". I

Evolution - Error to empty the trash

Hi, I can't empty the trash folder. I see an error message when I do that "File > Empty Trash" How can I do it manually? I read the tutorial at http://taufanlubis.wordpress.com/2010/11/13/cant-empty-evolution-trash-bin-–-error-while-expunging-folder/ but didn't work. I'm using POP server, Evo

Re: cifs mount problem

On Mon, 2 Dec 2013, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: Password: Password for root@//wehd/hdd: Please note the difference for the 2 paswword requests. I suppose that this can help to explain the difference of behaviour between the 2 nachines. forget this: it's just becaus the cifs-utils versions a

Re: how to activate php in apache[solved]

Le 03/12/2013 14:07, Linux-Fan a écrit : > On 12/03/2013 10:50 AM, François Patte wrote: >> You misunderstood the sentence: the file where the php command is >> written is in /var/www and has 644 permissions... (/var/www has, of >> course, 755 permissions). >> >> Re-reading my first message, I can'

Re: how to activate php in apache

On 12/03/2013 10:50 AM, François Patte wrote: > You misunderstood the sentence: the file where the php command is > written is in /var/www and has 644 permissions... (/var/www has, of > course, 755 permissions). > > Re-reading my first message, I can't see any extra w in /var/www ! http://lists.d

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 18:12 +0530, AP wrote: > You concluded very well. I guess I must start with KMail because of > the K-factor (yes, I am on KDE). And then later can try Thunderbird > and Evolution. I just asked about Thunderbird with a bit more emphasis > because I just heard it here and there.

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 6:12 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > You already said: "I guess our life is a race!" > and we know the end of the race ;), the end is some kind of "issue" ;p. The end is not any kind of issue because the end is sure and this is known. If you call it an issue, I can call it an e

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 5:37 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Since you're using KDE (IIRC), start with using KMail. If you should use > a MUA based on something else, but Qt, you might experience theme and > icon issues. Those issues can be solved, but then you need to install > more dependencies than y

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

A last note to this thread, I won't reply again too this thread. "Finagle's Law of Dynamic Negatives (also known as Finagle's corollary to Murphy's Law) is usually rendered: Anything that can go wrong, will—at the worst possible moment" - Wiki What MUA should I use, Kmail or Thunderbird? is anal

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

Since you're using KDE (IIRC), start with using KMail. If you should use a MUA based on something else, but Qt, you might experience theme and icon issues. Those issues can be solved, but then you need to install more dependencies than you might want to install and you need to learn more, than you

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 5:07 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Everything can be hacked, it's a race! Agreed but what I meant is that as soon as something is hacked/prone to be hacked, developers can do the proper required patching or editing the code so that the existing hole can be blocked. If a furthe

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Gilles Mocellin wrote: > It seems that your mail client breaks threads. > I see all your mails as new threads, disconnected from thoses you're > responded to. Yes it is agreed because I heard it a type of Mozilla bug too! I am not sure of it and that's why have de

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

You don't need to be subscribe, to take a look at mailing lists archives or to read forums ;). Take a look at lists and forms for the MUAs and make your own opinion, when on mailing lists and forums, distros are blamed for bugs. If there is less good compatibility to older versions of the MUA or if

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

Le 03/12/2013 11:18, AP a écrit : [...] It seems that your mail client breaks threads. I see all your mails as new threads, disconnected from thoses you're responded to. Not easy to read. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Troub

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 12:39 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 15:59 +0530, AP wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Ralf Mardorf > > wrote: > > > > > My aversion against Mozillas is not objective. > > > > But at least it is better than Safari or Windows Explorer. > > Yes,

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 15:59 +0530, AP wrote: > On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Ralf Mardorf > wrote: > > > My aversion against Mozillas is not objective. > > But at least it is better than Safari or Windows Explorer. Yes, regarding to the open source code. But simply start using some MUAs ;).

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 15:39 +0530, AP wrote: > But then developers should create such clients which have such codes > that are [...] not possible to hack Everything can be hacked, it's a race! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Tro

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

On Tue, 2013-12-03 at 15:38 +0530, AP wrote: > On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 10:26 PM, Ralf Mardorf > wrote: > > > Mozilla software is excellent regarding to technically aspects, but not > > regarding to > > freedom. > > Your mean privacy? Yes + the whole "philosophy" isn't too _my_ taste. -- To

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 5:06 AM, Paul E Condon wrote: > Phishing is not virus. Phishing is play tricks on your mind and > senses. Finding ways to make you believe things that are not true. To > the extent that your environment is known to the phishers they have > you at a disadvantage. Note that I

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 12:21 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > The last time I wanted to test Thunderbird again, some month ago, > it opened with advertisings. Okay, that's why you feel the other one is better...ok, fair enough. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > My aversion against Mozillas is not objective. But at least it is better than Safari or Windows Explorer. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists

Re: A rookie's query: Want to about Debian and the related

On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 1:45 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > Yes, I have experience of it. It is good email client. But I > personally do not like it as much as many people do. It used to be > much better for newbies than other clients, but I think that that is > no longer true. > Depending on circums

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