3D printer

2013-11-02 Thread Beco
Hi guys, This is an open thread, if that is allowed. I would like to start a topic on 3d printers. Does anyone here have experience in using such printers with debian/linux? What brand would you recommend? How about kits? What software is there available in debian repositories to create 3D pro

Re: Lenovo R61 Think Pad dead after fewer than five years

2013-11-02 Thread Celejar
On Sat, 02 Nov 2013 14:53:46 -0400 Ken Heard wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > In May 2008 I purchased new and started using a Lenovo R61 Think Pad. > Originally I installed Lenny on it and subsequently upgraded it to > Squeeze. > > Starting from 2013-01-01 various t

Re: NVIDIA Problem?

2013-11-02 Thread erosenberg
- Original Message - From: "Darac Marjal" To: Cc: Sent: Thu, 31 Oct 2013 09:42:10 + Subject: Re: NVIDIA Problem? On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 12:16:52AM -0400, erosenb...@hygeiabiomedical.com wrote: > I  am running jessie/sid. > > When I boot, prior to the login screen I receive t

Re: Init system deba{te|cle}

2013-11-02 Thread Reco
On Sat, 2 Nov 2013 21:08:29 + Tom H wrote: > Misrepresenting what systemd is and the reasons for its existence > doesn't make sense: > > http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/systemd.html > > OS X and Solaris switched to launchd and smf respectively in 2005 and, > to borrow an expression from As

Re: Init system deba{te|cle}

2013-11-02 Thread Reco
On Sat, 2 Nov 2013 21:23:01 + Tom H wrote: > On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Reco wrote: > I don't trust this guy. He's generally very abrasive and very > aggressive. He joined or started a debian-devel thread on init systems > and tried to convince people that openrc was the solution to Deb

Re: Lenovo R61 Think Pad dead after fewer than five years

2013-11-02 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 6:53 PM, Ken Heard wrote: > > In May 2008 I purchased new and started using a Lenovo R61 Think Pad. > Originally I installed Lenny on it and subsequently upgraded it to > Squeeze. > > Starting from 2013-01-01 various things started going wrong. For > example I began to get

Re: Init system deba{te|cle}

2013-11-02 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 2:30 PM, wrote: > > Now, I wonder. Gnome was said portable, am I wrong? If they now have a hard > dependency on systemd, they can no longer be considered portable, since > systemd is itself only targeting linux kernels (and this is fine, since they > do not claim to be port

Re: Init system deba{te|cle}

2013-11-02 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Reco wrote: > On Sat, 2 Nov 2013 12:09:51 + > Tom H wrote: >> >> As I said up-thread, it's a question of decoupling logind from systemd. >> >> The Gentoo GNOME developers decided that it was simpler for them not to do >> so. >> >> Given its attachment to upsta

Re: Init system deba{te|cle}

2013-11-02 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Joel Rees wrote: > I'm a former Fedora user. Got my start on MkLinux and openBSD, but the > companies I worked for seemed to think the commercial support approach > from Red Hat was more in line with what they needed, so I shifted to > Red Hat and followed that l

Re: Why syslog is not rotating?

2013-11-02 Thread Sven Hartge
Itay wrote: > Can someone help me, please, to understand why syslog is not rotating? The system ist not running at the time when cron.daily is scheduled to run? --> anacron takes care of that. Or somehow there is an error and logrotate refuses to run. In that case run logrotate manually with t

Re: Only in America! ? (was ... Re: sudo and UNIXes (was: audacity export wma format[1 more question]))

2013-11-02 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 09:35:16PM +, Curt wrote: > On 2013-10-31, Chris Bannister wrote: > > > > So you could shoot kids in halloween costumes for illegally being on > > your property? > > Only if they've been through your underwear (_very_ > puritanical country). If it was Halloween, it wo

Why syslog is not rotating?

2013-11-02 Thread Itay
Hi, Can someone help me, please, to understand why syslog is not rotating? # ls -gh /var/log/syslog* -rw-r- 1 adm 219M Nov 2 21:50 syslog -rw-r- 1 adm 2.5K Jun 5 2010 syslog.1 -rw-r- 1 adm0 Nov 1 07:50 syslog.1.gz -rw-r- 1 adm 661 Jun 5 2010 syslog.2.gz -rw-r- 1 ad

Re: [OT] Ping mystery

2013-11-02 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
Hi On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 01:09:31PM -0400, Brad Alexander wrote: > I have sort of a weird one here. On my network, I have my firewall, which has > 3 > interfaces. eth0 to the internal network, eth1 to the DMZ with a wireless > access point hanging off of it, and eth2 out to the interwebs. > >

Re: Lenovo R61 Think Pad dead after fewer than five years

2013-11-02 Thread Mr Smiley
Hi, e-bay is your friend, there are thousands of spares for IBM thinkpads :o) On 02/11/13 18:53, Ken Heard wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In May 2008 I purchased new and started using a Lenovo R61 Think Pad. Originally I installed Lenny on it and subsequently upgraded

Re: [OT] Ping mystery

2013-11-02 Thread Sven Hartge
Brad Alexander wrote: > I have sort of a weird one here. On my network, I have my firewall, > which has 3 interfaces. eth0 to the internal network, eth1 to the DMZ > with a wireless access point hanging off of it, and eth2 out to the > interwebs. > My workstation is on the internal network, and

Lenovo R61 Think Pad dead after fewer than five years

2013-11-02 Thread Ken Heard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In May 2008 I purchased new and started using a Lenovo R61 Think Pad. Originally I installed Lenny on it and subsequently upgraded it to Squeeze. Starting from 2013-01-01 various things started going wrong. For example I began to get segmentation fa

Installing same packages in a Squeeze installation in a new Wheezy installation

2013-11-02 Thread Ken Heard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In a new box where the Wheezy OS will be freshly installed I want to install all the packages which I presently have in a box with Squeeze. In section 2.7.16 of Aoki Osamu San's excellent Debian Reference, titled "Recording and copying system configur

Re: sudo and UNIXes

2013-11-02 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sat, 2 Nov 2013 11:46:48 -0500 "Cybe R. Wizard" wrote: > > How about this bug: > > > > http://www.sudo.ws/sudo/alerts/sudo_debug.html > > > > Impact: Successful exploitation of the bug will allow a user to run > > arbitrary commands as root. > > > > Exploitation of the bug does not

Re: sudo and UNIXes

2013-11-02 Thread Curt
On 2013-11-02, Cybe R. Wizard wrote: >> http://www.sudo.ws/sudo/alerts/sudo_debug.html >> >> Impact: Successful exploitation of the bug will allow a user to run >> arbitrary commands as root. >> >> Exploitation of the bug does not require that the attacker be listed >> in the sudoers file. As

[OT] Ping mystery

2013-11-02 Thread Brad Alexander
I have sort of a weird one here. On my network, I have my firewall, which has 3 interfaces. eth0 to the internal network, eth1 to the DMZ with a wireless access point hanging off of it, and eth2 out to the interwebs. My workstation is on the internal network, and i have a Nokia N900 on the wifi. I

Re: sudo and UNIXes

2013-11-02 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
On Sat, 2 Nov 2013 15:34:13 + (UTC) Curt wrote: > On 2013-11-02, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: > >>> > >>> Again -- isn't "basically equivalent to giving everyone uid=0." > >>> Permits someone who *has* sudo access to avoid retyping a > >>> password. > >> > >> Not only that. Permits someone who alrea

Re: Init system deba{te|cle}

2013-11-02 Thread Neal Murphy
On Saturday, November 02, 2013 08:23:45 AM Joel Rees wrote: > I'm repeating myself, but good engineers don't do that. No, they don't. They prepare new footings and pour a new foundation before moving the house to the new location. It's nice to know I haven't misperceived the situation. -- To

Re: sd card not detected

2013-11-02 Thread Neal Murphy
On Saturday, November 02, 2013 06:55:39 AM Alex Mestiashvili wrote: > I use xfce4 4.10, but in this case I think it has nothing to do with the > problem. > The problem is that the device is not detected by the kernel . > > it is not visible in the dmesg output and not visible in the output of > fd

Re: sudo and UNIXes

2013-11-02 Thread Curt
On 2013-11-02, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: >>> >>> Again -- isn't "basically equivalent to giving everyone uid=0." Permits >>> someone who *has* sudo access to avoid retyping a password. >> >> Not only that. Permits someone who already has sudo access to continue >> having such access indefinitely, igno

Re: Hosting advice

2013-11-02 Thread Go Linux
On Sat, 11/2/13, Simon Bell wrote: Subject: Re: Hosting advice To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Saturday, November 2, 2013, 4:37 AM On Saturday 02 Nov 2013 12:46:21 Igor Cicimov wrote: > > May I trouble you good people for suggestions th

Re: Init system deba{te|cle}

2013-11-02 Thread berenger . morel
Le 02.11.2013 13:23, Joel Rees a écrit : On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 5:55 AM, John wrote: Could someone who has been following the giant fuss on -devel over init systems explain why there's such a sense of dire urgency? Probably not. At least, it seems incomprehensible to me why there should ev

Re: Init system deba{te|cle}

2013-11-02 Thread berenger . morel
Le 02.11.2013 13:09, Tom H a écrit : On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 1:42 AM, wrote: Le 01.11.2013 20:01, Tom H a écrit : On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 8:58 PM, wrote: Le 31.10.2013 21:06, André Nunes Batista a écrit : On Wed, 2013-10-30 at 14:22 +, Tom H wrote: On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 8:55 PM, Jo

Re: Init system deba{te|cle}

2013-11-02 Thread Reco
Hi. On Sat, 2 Nov 2013 12:09:51 + Tom H wrote: > As I said up-thread, it's a question of decoupling logind from systemd. > > The Gentoo GNOME developers decided that it was simpler for them not to do so. > > Given its attachment to upstart, Ubuntu must be planning to keep on > doing so; bu

Re: Problem with upgrade from wheezy to jessie

2013-11-02 Thread André Büsgen
Am 31.10.2013 15:41, schrieb Jochen Spieker: > André Büsgen: >> I've got an problem with upgrading my debian wheezy to jessie. >> While the upgrade was running the system got a problem with the graphics >> drivers. >> Since this upgrade I get an error by excecuting 'startx'. >> Even starting other

Re: sd card not detected

2013-11-02 Thread Linux-Fan
On 11/01/2013 07:35 PM, Alex Mestiashvili wrote: > Hi All, > > A card inserted into card reader is not mounted automatically and even > doesn't shown up in the dmesg output, but if I switch off and on the > monitor with cardreader or run lshw the card appears and is mounted. > > the same happens

Re: Init system deba{te|cle}

2013-11-02 Thread Joel Rees
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 5:55 AM, John wrote: > Could someone who has been following the giant fuss on -devel over > init systems explain why there's such a sense of dire urgency? Probably not. At least, it seems incomprehensible to me why there should even be a debate. > Is it provoked by system

Re: Init system deba{te|cle}

2013-11-02 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 1:42 AM, wrote: > Le 01.11.2013 20:01, Tom H a écrit : >> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 8:58 PM, wrote: >>> Le 31.10.2013 21:06, André Nunes Batista a écrit : On Wed, 2013-10-30 at 14:22 +, Tom H wrote: > On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 8:55 PM, John wrote: >> >>

Re: apt-get aptitude dependencies purge

2013-11-02 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 7:07 PM, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2013-11-01 19:39 +0100, Tom H wrote: > >> So the "bad" variables are still documented in the aptitude docs and >> the "good" variables are undocumented except in the changelog. :( > > There seems to be a misunderstanding, the aptitude docume

Re: sd card not detected

2013-11-02 Thread Alex Mestiashvili
On 11/02/2013 04:18 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote: On Fri, 01 Nov 2013, Alex Mestiashvili wrote: Hi All, A card inserted into card reader is not mounted automatically and even doesn't shown up in the dmesg output, but if I switch off and on the monitor with cardreader or run lshw the card appears a

Re: Hosting advice

2013-11-02 Thread Simon Bell
On Saturday 02 Nov 2013 12:46:21 Igor Cicimov wrote: > > May I trouble you good people for suggestions that meet these needs? We > > would like to have at least one working email address by close of business > > tomorrow (Friday, 1 November), or Monday at the latest. > > > > Thanks, > > Craig I r

Re: Debian setup for python django development

2013-11-02 Thread Curt
On 2013-10-31, Chris Bannister wrote: > > Have you actually set up a python, django, mysql development project > using the Debian packages? If not, then it is best not to guess, it > will just further confuse the OP! > The crux of the matter is that the OP shouldn't mix pip modules and debian pa