Re: reinstalling Nginx & others usin apt from command line

2013-10-10 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 11:10:16PM -0500, John W. Foster wrote: > I suppose I should have asked a more precise question. Thanks to all of > you that offered suggestions; > I think the real issue with what I need to do is that I do indeed want > to know if there is a "debian" way to completely purge

Re: which MTA to choose for a simple client?

2013-10-10 Thread Jochen Spieker
Celejar: > On Wed, 9 Oct 2013 11:08:41 +0200 > Jochen Spieker wrote: > >> (BTW, I had assumed fetchmail was dead while getmail is alive. It is >> actually the other way round!) > > Not exactly sure what you mean here, but getmail looks alive to me - the > latest version was released less than tw

Re: reinstalling Nginx & others usin apt from command line

2013-10-10 Thread John W. Foster
On Wed, 2013-10-09 at 11:21 -0500, John W. Foster wrote: > I want to know if there is a way to use reinstall with some command to > overwrite all the existing configs using the dist configs. I want a > complete new installation with no modifications. I have tried this but > so far apt uses the exi

Re: reinstalling Nginx & others usin apt from command line

2013-10-10 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 10/10/2013 5:23 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 10.10.2013 21:59, Jerry Stuckle a écrit : On 10/10/2013 3:08 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 10.10.2013 20:20, Brad Rogers a écrit : On Thu, 10 Oct 2013 10:54:57 -0700 Gregory Nowak wrote: Hello Gregory, "purge

Re: reinstalling Nginx & others usin apt from command line

2013-10-10 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 10/10/2013 4:10 PM, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Thu, 10 Oct 2013 15:59:42 -0400 > Jerry Stuckle wrote: > > Hello Jerry, > Hi, Brad, >> I'm not sure what the confusion is here. Sure, it deletes all > > See what Gregory wrote. He, for one, expected a purge to delete user > space config files and

Re: which MTA to choose for a simple client?

2013-10-10 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 9 Oct 2013 11:08:41 +0200 Jochen Spieker wrote: ... > (BTW, I had assumed fetchmail was dead while getmail is alive. It is > actually the other way round!) Not exactly sure what you mean here, but getmail looks alive to me - the latest version was released less than two months ago: htt

Re: apt-get update fails after wheezy update

2013-10-10 Thread Steven G. Johnson
Jochen Spieker wrote: Very strange. Did you try changing to another mirror, just to see if that helps? Did you set a proxy in /etc/apt/apt.conf{,.d}? That was the problem: we had previously been using the approx proxy server, and there was an Acquire::http::proxy set in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d.

Re: reinstalling Nginx & others usin apt from command line

2013-10-10 Thread berenger . morel
Le 11.10.2013 01:20, Gregory Nowak a écrit : On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 12:59:32AM +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Yes, I know that this is the normal behavior. It purged system-wide configuration. But, the point is, that for some people, when they read the man page, they think that i

Re: reinstalling Nginx & others usin apt from command line

2013-10-10 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 12:59:32AM +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > Yes, I know that this is the normal behavior. It purged system-wide > configuration. But, the point is, that for some people, when they > read the man page, they think that it removes *all* configuration > files, inclu

Re: Mail logs missing in wheezy

2013-10-10 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 8:24 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Tue, 01 Oct 2013 09:19:30 -0700, David Guntner >> >> What things are logged where is controlled by the /etc/rsyslog.conf >> file. "man rsyslog.conf" for more information about the layout of the >> file. > > Here's an extract from the rsyslo

Re: reinstalling Nginx & others usin apt from command line

2013-10-10 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 09:10:24PM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > See what Gregory wrote. He, for one, expected a purge to delete user > space config files and/or directories as well, based on what he read in > the man pages for apt-get. Brad, I would appreciate it if you would please not put words

Re: apt-get vs. aptitude

2013-10-10 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Dmitrii Kashin wrote: > Florian Lindner writes: >> >> What is the prefered tool for installing on the CLI? apt-get or >> aptitude? Last time I read about it, it was aptitude, due to better >> dependency checking. What is the current state? apt-get or aptitude? >> D

Re: reinstalling Nginx & others usin apt from command line

2013-10-10 Thread berenger . morel
Le 11.10.2013 00:49, Gregory Nowak a écrit : On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 11:23:50PM +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Maybe you, since you know how it works. But, someone with no knowledge would think that it also removes userland configuration files, since it claims to remove all config

Re: reinstalling Nginx & others usin apt from command line

2013-10-10 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 11:23:50PM +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > Maybe you, since you know how it works. But, someone with no > knowledge would think that it also removes userland configuration > files, since it claims to remove all configuration files. Ok, since the man page is sa

Re: should an end user stick to a kernel with an initrd?

2013-10-10 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Regid Ichira wrote: > > It seems newer hardware is much more problematic in this sense. I > think MS ovecomes this difficulty by somehow attaching a signature for > each device. I don't have the details, don't know the pros and cons. On a UEFI box, partitions are a

Re: reinstalling Nginx & others usin apt from command line

2013-10-10 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 10 Oct 2013 15:59:42 -0400 Jerry Stuckle wrote: Hello Jerry, >I'm not sure what the confusion is here. Sure, it deletes all See what Gregory wrote. He, for one, expected a purge to delete user space config files and/or directories as well, based on what he read in the man pages for a

Re: apt-pinning, strange behavior

2013-10-10 Thread berenger . morel
Le 10.10.2013 23:06, Dmitrii Kashin a écrit : berenger.mo...@neutralite.org writes: In the same priority range, the package which will be installed is the one with the highest priority, so it is fine to have one set of package with 500 ( or I could take 600 or any other value ) for low prior

Re: reinstalling Nginx & others usin apt from command line

2013-10-10 Thread berenger . morel
Le 10.10.2013 21:59, Jerry Stuckle a écrit : On 10/10/2013 3:08 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 10.10.2013 20:20, Brad Rogers a écrit : On Thu, 10 Oct 2013 10:54:57 -0700 Gregory Nowak wrote: Hello Gregory, "purge purge is identical to remove except that packages a

Re: apt-get update fails after wheezy update

2013-10-10 Thread Jochen Spieker
Steven G. Johnson: > > I am not behind a firewall. The only uncommented line in my > /etc/apt/sources.list is: > > deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stable main contrib non-free > > Running "apt-get update" yields the "Connection failed" errors > listed below. I've also run "apt-get upd

Re: apt-get update fails after wheezy update

2013-10-10 Thread Steven G. Johnson
On 10/10/13 3:54 PM, Danilo Sampaio wrote: > sometimes, the commands below works for me: > > sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf > sudo apt-get clean > sudo apt-get update Unfortunately, this doesn't seem to help. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: apt-pinning, strange behavior

2013-10-10 Thread Dmitrii Kashin
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org writes: > In the same priority range, the package which will be installed is the > one with the highest priority, so it is fine to have one set of > package with 500 ( or I could take 600 or any other value ) for low > priority, and the other at 900 ( or 800 or... ),

Re: which file should I download

2013-10-10 Thread berenger . morel
Le 10.10.2013 22:06, Anjan Mitra a écrit : debian-7.1.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso [1] 2013-06-16 01:39 3.7G debian-7.1.0-amd64-DVD-2.iso [2] 2013-06-16 01:39 4.4G debian-7.1.0-amd64-DVD-3.iso [3] 2013-06-16 01:39 4.4G debian-update-7.1.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso [4] 2013-06-16 05:34 2.9G Links: -- [1] h

Re: Set widescreen resolution in console

2013-10-10 Thread Dmitrii Kashin
Antonio Paiva writes: > Hi everyone, > > I have recently acquired an old Sony Vaio PCG-C1VN (aka, a "PictureBook") > and installed Debian wheezy. The problem is that I can only get the > *console* to run at 640x480 resolution. First of all, have you tried to boot your kernel with vga=ask option?

which file should I download

2013-10-10 Thread Anjan Mitra
debian-7.1.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso 2013-06-16 01:39 3.7G debian-7.1.0-amd64-DVD-2.iso 2013-06-16 01:39 4.4G debia

Re: [SOLVED] Static IP /etc/network/interfaces, but got leased by dhcp

2013-10-10 Thread Ivan Kovnatsky
On Oct 10, 2013 at 22:53, "Karl E. Jorgensen" wrote: > Hm. This should not be happening. > > Was it DHCP recently? (i.e. at any time since the last reboot) Because > this sequence of events would produce what you saw: I have uptime: -- sevenfourk@lefrat ~ $ uptime 22:59:36 up 17 days, 22:25, 0

Re: reinstalling Nginx & others usin apt from command line

2013-10-10 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 10/10/2013 3:08 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 10.10.2013 20:20, Brad Rogers a écrit : On Thu, 10 Oct 2013 10:54:57 -0700 Gregory Nowak wrote: Hello Gregory, "purge purge is identical to remove except that packages are removed and purged (any c

Re: apt-get update fails after wheezy update

2013-10-10 Thread Danilo Sampaio
sometimes, the commands below works for me: sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* -vf sudo apt-get clean sudo apt-get update On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Steven G. Johnson wrote: > A few days ago I did an "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade" on our > amd64 Debian system to update it to wheezy.

Re: Static IP /etc/network/interfaces, but got leased by dhcp

2013-10-10 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 09:45:22PM +0300, Ivan Kovnatsky wrote: > Hi Guys, > > I have static IP assignment in /etc/network/interfaces: > -- > # Wireless > auto wlan0 > iface wlan0 inet static > wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf > address 192.168.1.49 > netmas

Re: reinstalling Nginx & others usin apt from command line

2013-10-10 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 10 Oct 2013 21:08:35 +0200 berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Hello berenger.mo...@neutralite.org, >I wonder if that could justify a bug report? Speaking about that, I It's not something I'd considered, but maybe it would. >have no idea about what exactly does the reinstall option: s

Re: reinstalling Nginx & others usin apt from command line

2013-10-10 Thread berenger . morel
Le 10.10.2013 20:20, Brad Rogers a écrit : On Thu, 10 Oct 2013 10:54:57 -0700 Gregory Nowak wrote: Hello Gregory, "purge purge is identical to remove except that packages are removed and purged (any configuration files are deleted too)." As has been said, the

Re: I have an Openoffice question for small business.

2013-10-10 Thread Paul van der Vlis
Hi Ezequiel, Op 08-10-13 14:10, Ezequiel schreef: > Hi all: > > I am Sysadmin at a small business. We have a complete mail-web-vpn > infrastructure and my boss is happy with it. I guess we are a successful > case of open software use in the "real world" I do support for many of such firms. > Bu

Static IP /etc/network/interfaces, but got leased by dhcp

2013-10-10 Thread Ivan Kovnatsky
Hi Guys, I have static IP assignment in /etc/network/interfaces: -- # Wireless auto wlan0 iface wlan0 inet static wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf address 192.168.1.49 netmask 255.255.255.0 gateway 192.168.1.1 -- But somehow I could not ssh to my ho

Re: reinstalling Nginx & others usin apt from command line

2013-10-10 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 10 Oct 2013 10:54:57 -0700 Gregory Nowak wrote: Hello Gregory, >"purge > purge is identical to remove except that packages are > removed and > purged (any configuration files are deleted too)." As has been said, the man page is imprecise. -- Regards _

Re: I have an Openoffice question for small business.

2013-10-10 Thread Joe
On Thu, 10 Oct 2013 13:49:57 +0200 berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > To be honest, I also thought that it was written in Java until > recently ( well, I think I discovered that in the beginning of the > year ), but someday I said that on a forum and was instantly replied > that it was written

Re: reinstalling Nginx & others usin apt from command line

2013-10-10 Thread berenger . morel
Le 10.10.2013 19:54, Gregory Nowak a écrit : On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 06:21:55PM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: Hello Brad, Not entirely true; Any package that has configuration files/directories in user space will have those left even after an apt-get(1) purge. So, to be sure, one has to dele

apt-get update fails after wheezy update

2013-10-10 Thread Steven G. Johnson
A few days ago I did an "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade" on our amd64 Debian system to update it to wheezy. Things went mostly okay (although it got stuck once on a php update and I had to kill and restart apt-get). However, ever since then apt-get update has failed. I am not behind

Re: reinstalling Nginx & others usin apt from command line

2013-10-10 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 06:21:55PM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: Hello Brad, > Not entirely true; Any package that has configuration files/directories > in user space will have those left even after an apt-get(1) purge. So, > to be sure, one has to delete those as well. > $ man 1 apt-get No manua

Re: reinstalling Nginx & others usin apt from command line

2013-10-10 Thread Brad Rogers
On Thu, 10 Oct 2013 10:09:27 -0700 Gregory Nowak wrote: Hello Gregory, >then completely gone from your system, configs and all. When you >install package_name again it will be installed fresh as if it had >never been installed on the system before. HTH. Not entirely true; Any package that has

Re: reinstalling Nginx & others usin apt from command line

2013-10-10 Thread Erick Ocrospoma
Hi, Yes, it is possible, you can do apt-get install package --reinstall It will work even if the package is installed, but a full removing will be even a better solution ~ Happy install ! Cellphone : +51 950307809 Blog: http://zerick.me/ LUG: http://www.utpinux.org IRC

Re: reinstalling Nginx & others usin apt from command line

2013-10-10 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 11:21:39AM -0500, John W. Foster wrote: > I want to know if there is a way to use reinstall with some command to > overwrite all the existing configs using the dist configs. I want a > complete new installation with no modifications. I have tried this but > so far apt uses t

reinstalling Nginx & others usin apt from command line

2013-10-10 Thread John W. Foster
I want to know if there is a way to use reinstall with some command to overwrite all the existing configs using the dist configs. I want a complete new installation with no modifications. I have tried this but so far apt uses the existing configs. I end up with a non working server. I had this same

Re: Mouse scrolling speed

2013-10-10 Thread Curt
On 2013-10-10, Curt wrote: > > > curty@einstein:~$ xinput list-props 9 > Device 'ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse': > Device Enabled (142): 1 > Device Accel Profile (261): 0 > Device Accel Constant Deceleration (262): 1.00 > Device Accel Adaptive Decelera

Re: mdadm gives segmentatin fault on wheezy. RAID array now incomplete.

2013-10-10 Thread Marc Auslander
Hendrik Boom writes: > I ran > > mdadm /dev/md1 --add /dev/sdd2 > > and got a segmentation fault. > > > april:/farhome/hendrik# cat /proc/mdstat > Personalities : [raid1] > md1 : active raid1 sdb2[1] > 2391295864 blocks super 1.2 [2/1] [_U] > > md0 : active raid1 sda4[0] sdc4[1] >

Re: Mouse scrolling speed

2013-10-10 Thread Curt
On 2013-10-06, Dolev Farhi wrote: > Hi all > I'm running Debian 6 with GNOME. > My mouse scroll is somewhat slow, It takes about 5-6 scrolls to get to > the bottom of a page. > in the mouse control GUI there is no indication of scrolling speed. > Googling about this brought no solutions except usi

Re: Tool for investigating dependency chains?

2013-10-10 Thread berenger . morel
Le 10.10.2013 15:02, Richard Owlett a écrit : berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 10.10.2013 13:36, Richard Owlett a écrit : It does not tell me: A. the names of packages it recommends be also installed B. the description of those packages It does. Go on that package, and press "ent

debian weather not giving weather for sid last couple of days?

2013-10-10 Thread Mitchell Laks
Hi, Last couple of days, the debian weather page http://edos.debian.net/weather/ has not given the weather for unstable, with no explanation. Does anyone know what is going on? Sounds ominous. Thanks Mitchell -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "un

Re: Tool for investigating dependency chains?

2013-10-10 Thread Richard Owlett
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 10.10.2013 13:36, Richard Owlett a écrit : It does not tell me: A. the names of packages it recommends be also installed B. the description of those packages It does. Go on that package, and press "enter". This will open a new tab with the same info,

Re: apt-get vs. aptitude

2013-10-10 Thread berenger . morel
Le 10.10.2013 14:30, Erwan David a écrit : On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 12:47:08PM CEST, "David L. Craig" said: On 13Oct09:2153+0100, Joe wrote: > On Wed, 09 Oct 2013 13:24:57 -0500 > Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > > Being retired, I've no aspirations of being a sysadmin. > > > > > > > If you run

Re: apt-get vs. aptitude

2013-10-10 Thread Erwan David
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 12:47:08PM CEST, "David L. Craig" said: > On 13Oct09:2153+0100, Joe wrote: > > > On Wed, 09 Oct 2013 13:24:57 -0500 > > Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > > > > > Being retired, I've no aspirations of being a sysadmin. > > > > > > > > > > > If you run Linux, you already

Re: Tool for investigating dependency chains?

2013-10-10 Thread berenger . morel
Le 10.10.2013 13:36, Richard Owlett a écrit : It does not tell me: A. the names of packages it recommends be also installed B. the description of those packages It does. Go on that package, and press "enter". This will open a new tab with the same info, but with the targeted package being

Re: I have an Openoffice question for small business.

2013-10-10 Thread berenger . morel
Le 10.10.2013 10:24, Joe a écrit : On Wed, 09 Oct 2013 23:21:29 +0200 berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 09.10.2013 23:04, Joe a écrit : > On Wed, 9 Oct 2013 12:52:43 -0300 > Ezequiel wrote: > >> Thanks to all for your replies. I am actually pinning OO in order >> to use oldstable versi

Re: apt-get vs. aptitude

2013-10-10 Thread Richard Owlett
Joe wrote: On Wed, 09 Oct 2013 13:24:57 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: Being retired, I've no aspirations of being a sysadmin. If you run Linux, you already are. You don't get to choose. I disagree. I may perform sysadmin tasks, that does not make me one. For comparison: A chef prepares me

Re: Tool for investigating dependency chains?

2013-10-10 Thread Richard Owlett
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 09.10.2013 19:49, Richard Owlett a écrit : If I can correctly read and follow instructions (friends and family tend to doubt), the above tells me too much about what is already installed and not enough about what is not installed :( Hehe, I can understan

Re: apt-pinning, strange behavior

2013-10-10 Thread berenger . morel
Le 09.10.2013 19:28, Dmitrii Kashin a écrit : berenger.mo...@neutralite.org writes: Since I had to reinstall from my last kernel error, I decided to stay with stable on that computer, but I need some softwares in less outdated versions, like development libraries or i3 ( this one is not a ne

Re: apt-get vs. aptitude

2013-10-10 Thread David L. Craig
On 13Oct09:2153+0100, Joe wrote: > On Wed, 09 Oct 2013 13:24:57 -0500 > Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > > Being retired, I've no aspirations of being a sysadmin. > > > > > > > If you run Linux, you already are. You don't get to choose. Probably. There have been reports of parents set up on L

Bind logging

2013-10-10 Thread Paweł Ch .
Hi list, My server don't log to proper file. It should be /var/log/named/security.log but is /var/log/daemon.log. I configure bind with this page https://wiki.debian.org/Bind9 and in /var/bind9/chroot/etc/bind/named.conf.options is: options { . . }; logging { channel security_file { file

Re: I have an Openoffice question for small business.

2013-10-10 Thread Joe
On Wed, 09 Oct 2013 23:21:29 +0200 berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > Le 09.10.2013 23:04, Joe a écrit : > > On Wed, 9 Oct 2013 12:52:43 -0300 > > Ezequiel wrote: > > > >> Thanks to all for your replies. I am actually pinning OO in order > >> to use oldstable versions. I guess I will try to c