Re: You can have any color you want - as long as it's Gnome?

2013-10-07 Thread Jape Person
On 10/07/2013 09:37 AM, david...@ling.ohio-state.edu wrote: On Sun, 6 Oct 2013, Jape Person wrote: On 10/06/2013 05:33 PM, david...@ling.ohio-state.edu wrote: On Sun, 6 Oct 2013, Jape Person wrote: For both stable and testing I tried both LXDE and Xfce desktop environment installations. But

Re: NEWBIE installation report - was [Re: You can have any color you want - as long as it's Gnome?]

2013-10-07 Thread davidson
On Mon, 7 Oct 2013, Richard Owlett wrote: I just did an install from [Debian GNU/Linux 7.1.0 "Wheezy" - Official i386 DVD Binary-1 20130615-21:54] My choices from the the opening set of menus were: Advanced Options Alternative desktop environments Xfce Advanced options Expert install

Re: What does 'apt' in /etc/cron.daily do?

2013-10-07 Thread Bob Proulx
Harry Putnam wrote: > One final question: I decided to rename the /etc/cron.daily/logrotate > script to /etc/cron.daily/00logrotate, so that it runs first. Just in > case what ever caused my problem ... comes up again. At least > 00logrotate will have the best chance of getting run. I just find

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Mounting a Samsung Galaxy S3.

2013-10-07 Thread David Emerson
I simply wanted to share that I've been happy with a completely different (and fully CLI) approach/solution: the android debug bridge. IIRC JellyBean requires adb version 1.0.31, which I had to compile for squeeze (and which is also provided within the android development tools package provided

Re: What does 'apt' in /etc/cron.daily do?

2013-10-07 Thread Bob Proulx
Harry Putnam wrote: > Further testing... first take anacron out of play as BobP suggests. > I removed the the anacron part of the line in /etc/crontab > original(except dates) : Just for the record I was suggesting: apt-get remove anacron That by itself should be sufficient. And then if you

Re: Debian installer and raid0

2013-10-07 Thread Bob Proulx
Francesco Pietra wrote: > I forgot asking naively how to boot safely to the grub menu. Press a key on the keyboard before the 5 second count down timer counts all of the way down. Pressing a key stops the timer and causes it to stay on the menu waiting for keyboard input. Bob signature.asc Des

Re: About debain kernel stable repo

2013-10-07 Thread Dmitrii Kashin
Man, why don't you use an ordinary command: % apt-get source linux It is the most preferred way to find sources for stable release. And yes. As you have seen, the main tree of linux kernel is stored in svn repository: svn://anonscm.debian.org/svn/kernel/dists/trunk/linux/ For other questions it

NEWBIE installation report - was [Re: You can have any color you want - as long as it's Gnome?]

2013-10-07 Thread Richard Owlett
Jape Person wrote: On 10/07/2013 09:37 AM, david...@ling.ohio-state.edu wrote: On Sun, 6 Oct 2013, Jape Person wrote: On 10/06/2013 05:33 PM, david...@ling.ohio-state.edu wrote: On Sun, 6 Oct 2013, Jape Person wrote: For both stable and testing I tried both LXDE and Xfce desktop environment

Re: You can have any color you want - as long as it's Gnome?

2013-10-07 Thread Joe
On Mon, 07 Oct 2013 11:01:15 -0400 Jape Person wrote: > > I hope that is actually the case. I am sober now and not kibbitzing > with my buddies, but don't have much time. If I can get some free > time I'll try again with my eyes open and taking notes for a possible > contribution to the bug rep

Re: schroot

2013-10-07 Thread shawn wilson
On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 2:20 PM, wrote: > Le 07.10.2013 19:50, shawn wilson a écrit : > >> Not a bad idea. However: >> find / -type f -print0 | xargs -0 -i{} -P 10 grep -H 'SETUP_DATA_DIR=' >> {} 2> /dev/null >> >> found nothing. Just to be complete (so that maybe this shows up on google when the

Re: ddrescue and windowsxp

2013-10-07 Thread steef
On 05-10-13 13:26, Doug wrote: On 10/05/2013 04:05 AM, steef wrote: hi folks, my eldest daughter has an old laptop with windowsxp loaded on it. the machine crashed yesterday. my question: can i use debian and the ddrescue-procedure to save the data of this laptop like i did about 7 years ago w

Re: schroot

2013-10-07 Thread berenger . morel
Le 07.10.2013 19:50, shawn wilson a écrit : Not a bad idea. However: find / -type f -print0 | xargs -0 -i{} -P 10 grep -H 'SETUP_DATA_DIR=' {} 2> /dev/null found nothing. On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 1:05 PM, wrote: Le 07.10.2013 18:59, Shawn Wilson a écrit : berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wro

Re: ddrescue and windowsxp

2013-10-07 Thread André Nunes Batista
On Sat, 2013-10-05 at 03:43 -0500, Robert Crawford wrote: > On Oct 5, 2013 1:05 AM, "steef" wrote: > > > > hi folks, > > > > my eldest daughter has an old laptop with windowsxp loaded on it. the > machine crashed yesterday. > > > > my question: can i use debian and the ddrescue-procedure to save t

Re: schroot

2013-10-07 Thread berenger . morel
Le 07.10.2013 18:59, Shawn Wilson a écrit : berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 07.10.2013 18:38, shawn wilson a écrit : This is at the top of every config file, but I can't find it documented: . "$SETUP_DATA_DIR/common-data" . "$SETUP_DATA_DIR/common-functions" . "$SETUP_DATA_DIR/common

Re: Debian wheezy boot problem - Boot sector not identified by board

2013-10-07 Thread berenger . morel
Le 07.10.2013 09:54, Roland RoLaNd a écrit : All, I have an intel dh77kc board. it previously had windows 7 installed on it. i tried installing debian wheezy net install. installation goes perfectly fine up untill reboot. once reboot is done, i get " Initializing and establishing link" and imm

Re: schroot

2013-10-07 Thread Shawn Wilson
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > > >Le 07.10.2013 18:38, shawn wilson a écrit : >> This is at the top of every config file, but I can't find it >> documented: >> >> . "$SETUP_DATA_DIR/common-data" >> . "$SETUP_DATA_DIR/common-functions" >> . "$SETUP_DATA_DIR/common-config" >> >> Where is t

Re: What does 'apt' in /etc/cron.daily do?

2013-10-07 Thread Harry Putnam
Curt writes: > On 2013-10-06, Bob Proulx wrote: >> >> I think that comment was basically that /etc/cron.daily/apt doesn't >> have anything to do with log rotation. So you are barking up the >> wrong tree. > > Maybe he thought that given the apt script is run before the logrotate > script in cro

Re: schroot

2013-10-07 Thread berenger . morel
Le 07.10.2013 18:38, shawn wilson a écrit : This is at the top of every config file, but I can't find it documented: . "$SETUP_DATA_DIR/common-data" . "$SETUP_DATA_DIR/common-functions" . "$SETUP_DATA_DIR/common-config" Where is this being sourced from (ie, where is the 'common-data' file?)

schroot

2013-10-07 Thread shawn wilson
This is at the top of every config file, but I can't find it documented: . "$SETUP_DATA_DIR/common-data" . "$SETUP_DATA_DIR/common-functions" . "$SETUP_DATA_DIR/common-config" Where is this being sourced from (ie, where is the 'common-data' file?) and (more important) where is this documented?

Re: You can have any color you want - as long as it's Gnome?

2013-10-07 Thread Jape Person
On 10/07/2013 11:37 AM, Paul Cartwright wrote: On 10/07/2013 10:43 AM, Jape Person wrote: These folks are sophisticated enough to want to use VPN connections when they're connecting to public wireless locations. They just don't know enough about package management to sort this sort of thing out

Re: You can have any color you want - as long as it's Gnome?

2013-10-07 Thread Paul Cartwright
On 10/07/2013 10:43 AM, Jape Person wrote: > > These folks are sophisticated enough to want to use VPN connections > when they're connecting to public wireless locations. They just don't > know enough about package management to sort this sort of thing out > for themselves. I wanted to leave them w

Re: You can have any color you want - as long as it's Gnome?

2013-10-07 Thread Jape Person
On 10/07/2013 03:10 AM, Oliver Fairhall wrote: Thanks for posting on this Jape. I'm new to Debian (preparing to install soon) and will likely be caught by this. Hope it's OK to ask some newby questions. If you don't mind getting (possibly) dumb answers. ;-) I want a light weight DE, and was

Re: You can have any color you want - as long as it's Gnome?

2013-10-07 Thread Jape Person
On 10/07/2013 09:37 AM, david...@ling.ohio-state.edu wrote: On Sun, 6 Oct 2013, Jape Person wrote: On 10/06/2013 05:33 PM, david...@ling.ohio-state.edu wrote: On Sun, 6 Oct 2013, Jape Person wrote: For both stable and testing I tried both LXDE and Xfce desktop environment installations. But

Re: You can have any color you want - as long as it's Gnome?

2013-10-07 Thread berenger . morel
Le 07.10.2013 16:02, Curt a écrit : On 2013-10-07, Curt wrote: With the wheezy netinstaller you simply choose 'Advanced Options' on the first page you're presented with, then 'Alternative desktop environments," then 'Xfce.' No Gnome. With this version of the netinstaller at least that's t

Re: You can have any color you want - as long as it's Gnome?

2013-10-07 Thread Jape Person
On 10/07/2013 10:02 AM, Curt wrote: On 2013-10-07, Curt wrote: With the wheezy netinstaller you simply choose 'Advanced Options' on the first page you're presented with, then 'Alternative desktop environments," then 'Xfce.' No Gnome. With this version of the netinstaller at least that's the w

Re: You can have any color you want - as long as it's Gnome?

2013-10-07 Thread Curt
On 2013-10-07, Curt wrote: >>> >>> With the wheezy netinstaller you simply choose 'Advanced Options' on >>> the >>> first page you're presented with, then 'Alternative desktop >>> environments," then 'Xfce.' No Gnome. >>> >>> With this version of the netinstaller at least that's the way it's >>>

Re: You can have any color you want - as long as it's Gnome?

2013-10-07 Thread Curt
On 2013-10-07, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > > >> >> With the wheezy netinstaller you simply choose 'Advanced Options' on >> the >> first page you're presented with, then 'Alternative desktop >> environments," then 'Xfce.' No Gnome. >> >> With this version of the netinstaller at least t

Re: You can have any color you want - as long as it's Gnome?

2013-10-07 Thread davidson
On Sun, 6 Oct 2013, Jape Person wrote: On 10/06/2013 05:33 PM, david...@ling.ohio-state.edu wrote: On Sun, 6 Oct 2013, Jape Person wrote: For both stable and testing I tried both LXDE and Xfce desktop environment installations. But when the systems rebooted, I was at the Gnome desktop. [snip

Re: You can have any color you want - as long as it's Gnome?

2013-10-07 Thread berenger . morel
Le 07.10.2013 15:12, Curt a écrit : On 2013-10-07, Oliver Fairhall wrote: I want a light weight DE, and was thinking to use XFCE (been fine on my other distros). I'm at best an intermediate level with Linux, so will likely struggle with not installing Gnome (really don't want Gnome or KDE

Re: You can have any color you want - as long as it's Gnome?

2013-10-07 Thread Curt
On 2013-10-07, Oliver Fairhall wrote: > > I want a light weight DE, and was thinking to use XFCE (been fine on my > other distros). I'm at best an intermediate level with Linux, so will > likely struggle with not installing Gnome (really don't want Gnome or KDE). > With the wheezy netinstaller

Re: What does 'apt' in /etc/cron.daily do?

2013-10-07 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Oct 07, 2013 at 12:09:27PM +, Curt wrote: > On 2013-10-07, Chris Bannister wrote: > > Remember what Benny Hill said: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6jaKkE0RsI > > but not an assumption > > a statement that is assumed to be true and from which a > conclusion can be drawn; >

Re: What does 'apt' in /etc/cron.daily do?

2013-10-07 Thread Curt
On 2013-10-07, Chris Bannister wrote: >> >> Maybe he thought that given the apt script is run before the logrotate >> script in cron.daily (if indeed they're handled in alphabetical order? >> (apparently, yes, they're run in 'lexical sort order' order according to >> the run-parts man page)), if

Re: Compiz on Debian 7.1 problem

2013-10-07 Thread berenger . morel
Le 07.10.2013 12:44, Douglas Brito a écrit : good day, please be possible to add repositories in compiz again, many users here in Brazil, the viviaolinux.org need this package and it is no longer possible to use the debian, some are switching distributions for this problem, it is not possible t

Compiz on Debian 7.1 problem

2013-10-07 Thread Douglas Brito
good day, please be possible to add repositories in compiz again, many users here in Brazil, the viviaolinux.org need this package and it is no longer possible to use the debian, some are switching distributions for this problem, it is not possible to compile it, or use the version 0.9.9 of ubun

Re: What does 'apt' in /etc/cron.daily do?

2013-10-07 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Oct 07, 2013 at 07:57:46AM +, Curt wrote: > On 2013-10-06, Bob Proulx wrote: > > > > I think that comment was basically that /etc/cron.daily/apt doesn't > > have anything to do with log rotation. So you are barking up the > > wrong tree. > > Maybe he thought that given the apt script

Re: Recovery mode: impossible to run dpkg ( was Re: boot problem: stuck at "Switching to clocksource tsc" )

2013-10-07 Thread berenger . morel
Le 06.10.2013 18:34, Curt a écrit : On 2013-10-06, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Any idea about how to be able to run terminal stuff correctly in recovery mode? Maybe changing the terminal (if so, how could I do that?)? export TERM=linux says google Thanks. But, this line does o

Re: You can have any color you want - as long as it's Gnome?

2013-10-07 Thread berenger . morel
Le 07.10.2013 09:10, Oliver Fairhall a écrit : Thanks for posting on this Jape. I'm new to Debian (preparing to install soon) and will likely be caught by this. Hope it's OK to ask some newby questions. I do not remember having read that this list is for experts only ;) On 07/10/13 02:31, Jap

Re: You can have any color you want - as long as it's Gnome?

2013-10-07 Thread Kailash
> Is there an alternative network manager for XFCE, and can one be > selected during initial installation? https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#Wicd HTH, K. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.de

Debian wheezy boot problem - Boot sector not identified by board

2013-10-07 Thread Roland RoLaNd
All, I have an intel dh77kc board. it previously had windows 7 installed on it.i tried installing debian wheezy net install. installation goes perfectly fine up untill reboot.once reboot is done, i get " Initializing and establishing link" and immediately goes into network bootI tried resetting

Re: What does 'apt' in /etc/cron.daily do?

2013-10-07 Thread Curt
On 2013-10-06, Bob Proulx wrote: > > I think that comment was basically that /etc/cron.daily/apt doesn't > have anything to do with log rotation. So you are barking up the > wrong tree. Maybe he thought that given the apt script is run before the logrotate script in cron.daily (if indeed they're

Re: ATI graphic card and Jessie.

2013-10-07 Thread Umarzuki Mochlis
2013/10/7 Erwan David : > Hello, > > I am in testing, and I have a radeom 4000 graphic card. I used to use > the radeon driver but I had to switch after kernel 3.10, because I > got GUI freeze of 20 to 30 s avery 15 to 20 minutes, making it > unusable. > > But now I see that fglrx-legacy is not com

ATI graphic card and Jessie.

2013-10-07 Thread Erwan David
Hello, I am in testing, and I have a radeom 4000 graphic card. I used to use the radeon driver but I had to switch after kernel 3.10, because I got GUI freeze of 20 to 30 s avery 15 to 20 minutes, making it unusable. But now I see that fglrx-legacy is not compatible with the new xorg. Is there a

Re: You can have any color you want - as long as it's Gnome?

2013-10-07 Thread Oliver Fairhall
Thanks for posting on this Jape. I'm new to Debian (preparing to install soon) and will likely be caught by this. Hope it's OK to ask some newby questions. I want a light weight DE, and was thinking to use XFCE (been fine on my other distros). I'm at best an intermediate level with Linux, so w

Re: Debian installer and raid0

2013-10-07 Thread Francesco Pietra
I have no other machines than the said two servers. As soon as a machine was dismissed, parts were recovered for the new machines. Does not matter, I'll try. What I was also asking, however, was how to boot to the grub only: I forgot asking naively how to boot safely to the grub menu. > > With bot