Re: Typing in bar characters (accented characters?)

2013-08-21 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 05:10:05PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > I have the misfortune of never having learned Latin. If you've ever seen the "graffiti scene" in 'The Life of Brian' then you may use a word other than misfortune. :) -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the

Re: ksh i386 ##

2013-08-21 Thread Phi Debian
Thanx Bob for pre-filling the debian bug. I try to do the same on ubuntu and see how it goes. Cheers, Phi On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 10:30 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > Phi Debian wrote: >> Hi Bob, >> Well I dunno how to fill a report on ksh, is that at David Korn site? >> Or is it a debian specific. >

Re: Missing Makefile

2013-08-21 Thread Kailash
On Monday 05 August 2013 08:10 AM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > On 8/4/2013 5:22 PM, Tom H wrote: >> On Sat, 03 Aug 2013 22:11:16 -0400, Jerry Stuckle wrote: >> > On 8/3/2013 10:30 AM, Tom H wrote: >> >> >> >> Do the following four symlinks exist on your box >> >> (for 3.2 of course). >> >> >> >> /

Re: wireless problem

2013-08-21 Thread Bob Proulx
Charles Kroeger wrote: > Brian wrote: > > 1. Disable NM with > > update-rc.d network-manager disable > > What does this mean: > > charles# update-rc.d network-manager disable > > insserv: warning: current start runlevel(s) (empty) of script > `network-manager' > overrides LSB defaults (2 3

Re: Typing in bar characters (accented characters?)

2013-08-21 Thread Bob Proulx
Carl Johnson wrote: > Bob Proulx writes: > > That seemed to have been the best recommendation. So I went off and > > set up: > > setxkbmap -rules evdev -model evdev -layout us -variant altgr-intl > > ... > > I just have a Compose (AltGr) key set with LANG=en_US.UTF-8 and I can > type them by us

Re: Typing in bar characters (accented characters?)

2013-08-21 Thread Carl Johnson
Bob Proulx writes: > I am helping someone configure their Debian system. They said they > wished to type in "special" characters. Which I assumed meant > accented characters. > > I had previously read: > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/01/msg02068.html > > And that pointed me off

Re: What if I choose install text-based mode than X?

2013-08-21 Thread 郭靖
在 2013年8月22日星期四UTC+8上午2时30分02秒,Joe写道: > On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 09:30:22 -0700 (PDT) > > 郭靖 wrote: > > > > > I was going to install Debian on my MBP(i.e. Macbook Pro), but I > > > didn't know what to choose - Due to the existance of Mac OSX, I > > > didn't want to install X on my machine, I just

OT: Typing in bar characters (accented characters?)

2013-08-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-08-22 at 03:28 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Sum, es, est, sumus, estis, sunt, rusticus porcus est, errare humanum > est Perhaps I should translate: I am, you are, he|she|it is, we are, you are, they are, the farmer is a pig, to err is human -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-r

Re: Typing in bar characters (accented characters?)

2013-08-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2013-08-21 at 17:10 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > I have the misfortune of never having learned Latin. What a pity, such a useful language ;). Be happy, learning Latin does cause personality disorders ;). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: Typing in bar characters (accented characters?)

2013-08-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2013-08-21 at 18:33 -0400, Doug wrote: > The only time I have run into those odd-ball bar characters--the > bar is called a "macron"--is in schoolboy Latin, where the Romans > never heard of them! On of the school subjects I had was Latin and I never heard of them too :D. To be fair, I did

Re: lvm2 on top of dm-crypt - how to add new hard disk

2013-08-21 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 12:19:40PM -0300, Luther Blissett wrote: > My initial guess was that it should be possible to extend this > encryption scheme to the new hard disk using standard lvm tools and the > unencrypted "open" disk as physical volume to the already existing > volume group. However, a

Re: unable to get /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/network/interfaces configured properly in wheezy

2013-08-21 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 8/22/13, Mark Copper wrote: > As an aside, right there in the networking chapter of the debian > manual under "The basic syntax of /etc/network/interfaces" is says in > no uncertain terms, **Warning** Do not define duplicates of the > "iface" stanza for a network interface in /etc/network/inter

Re: bind9, openswan crashes wheezy VPS

2013-08-21 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 01:37:32PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > I will be curious to hear what you find out about your problem. > System crashes are always especially difficult for me to debug. > I'm closing this issue with my VPS provider, so wanted to follow up here as well. My VPS provider chang

Re: unable to get /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/network/interfaces configured properly in wheezy

2013-08-21 Thread Mark Copper
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 4:28 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > Tom H wrote: >> On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:17:11 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: >> > Tom H wrote: >> >> Mark Copper wrote: >> >>> Tom H wrote: >> You have "allow-hotplug eth0:0" without an "iface eth0:0 ..." line. > > I think the problem was the othe

Re: Typing in bar characters (accented characters?)

2013-08-21 Thread Doug
On 08/21/2013 06:33 PM, Doug wrote: /snip/ >> Because now I know that specifically they want to input the barred >> characters āēīōū what would be possible methods to type those in that >> I should recommend to them? >> >> Thanks! >> Bob >> > How did you create those characters in the email? And w

Re: Typing in bar characters (accented characters?)

2013-08-21 Thread Bob Proulx
Doug wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > input. But then the follow-up came back that they wanted to input the > > bar characters āēīōū. And I don't see how to input bar characters > > with the above. > > > > Because now I know that specifically they want to input the barred > > characters āēīōū what

Re: Typing in bar characters (accented characters?)

2013-08-21 Thread Doug
On 08/21/2013 05:37 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > I am helping someone configure their Debian system. They said they > wished to type in "special" characters. Which I assumed meant > accented characters. > > I had previously read: > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/01/msg02068.html > >

Typing in bar characters (accented characters?)

2013-08-21 Thread Bob Proulx
I am helping someone configure their Debian system. They said they wished to type in "special" characters. Which I assumed meant accented characters. I had previously read: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/01/msg02068.html And that pointed me off to the very nicely written article:

Re: ksh i386 ##

2013-08-21 Thread Bob Proulx
Phi Debian wrote: > Hi Bob, > Well I dunno how to fill a report on ksh, is that at David Korn site? > Or is it a debian specific. I would file a bug in Debian. Using the command line reportbug is easiest and most reliable. $ reportbug ksh93 > It happen on ubuntu as well. And the same thing f

Re: unable to get /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/network/interfaces configured properly in wheezy

2013-08-21 Thread Bob Proulx
Tom H wrote: > On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:17:11 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > > Tom H wrote: > >> Mark Copper wrote: > >>> Tom H wrote: > You have "allow-hotplug eth0:0" without an "iface eth0:0 ..." line. I think the problem was the other way around. It was allow-hotplug eth0:0 when it should have

Re: apt autoremove

2013-08-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf
There are reasons that packages sometimes are installed automatically as a dependency and there are reasons that such packages aren't needed anymore. The only reason that comes to mind, when a package management is "mistaken" is, if a package was installed automatically as a dependency, then the us

Re: apt autoremove

2013-08-21 Thread Steven Post
On Wed, 2013-08-21 at 22:24 +0200, Thierry Chatelet wrote: > The Wednesday 21 August 2013 21:50:17, Verde Denim wrote : > > Running updates this morning and got this - > > The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer > > required: > > dbconfig-common libapache2-mod-php5 l

Re: apt autoremove

2013-08-21 Thread Thierry Chatelet
The Wednesday 21 August 2013 21:50:17, Verde Denim wrote : > Running updates this morning and got this - > The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer > required: > dbconfig-common libapache2-mod-php5 libcurl3-gnutls:i386 > libdirac-decoder0 libenet1a libgmp10:i386 > l

apt autoremove

2013-08-21 Thread Verde Denim
Running updates this morning and got this - The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: dbconfig-common libapache2-mod-php5 libcurl3-gnutls:i386 libdirac-decoder0 libenet1a libgmp10:i386 libirrlicht1.7a liblapack3gf libmcrypt4 libmpc2:i386 libmpfr4:i386 libon

Re: trusting repository keys (was: deb-multimedia repository)

2013-08-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2013-08-21 at 16:53 +0200, Jochen Spieker wrote: > Ralf Mardorf: > No. Just because a keyserver happens to serve some key that does not > mean the key is valid. But if I upload a key it neither would have the same fingerprint, nor fit to the packages. So I must upload a key and then hack t

Re: What if I choose install text-based mode than X?

2013-08-21 Thread Joe
On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 09:30:22 -0700 (PDT) 郭靖 wrote: > I was going to install Debian on my MBP(i.e. Macbook Pro), but I > didn't know what to choose - Due to the existance of Mac OSX, I > didn't want to install X on my machine, I just want to learn Linux > and/or Debian. However, setting my Mac as

Re: file system analogue of blkid.

2013-08-21 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 8/21/2013 10:48 AM, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2013-08-21 16:49 +0200, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: > >> blkid gives the salient parameters of a partition. >> Is there an analogous command yielding parameters >> of a filesystem? Hypothetically, >> fsid /dev/sda1 >> yielding type of filesystem, whe

Re: wireless problem

2013-08-21 Thread Charles Kroeger
On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 15:00:01 +0200 Brian wrote: > 1. Disable NM with > > update-rc.d network-manager disable > > 2. In /etc/network/interfaces have only the loopback interface plus > > iface eth0 inet dhcp > wpa-ssid your_ssid > wpa-psk your_passphrase

Re: unable to get /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/network/interfaces configured properly in wheezy

2013-08-21 Thread Tom H
On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 18:17:11 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > Tom H wrote: >> Mark Copper wrote: >>> Tom H wrote: Mark Copper wrote: > Previously, my file followed this format for multiple IP addresses on > a single nic like this (cf > https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration): >>

What if I choose install text-based mode than X?

2013-08-21 Thread 郭靖
I was going to install Debian on my MBP(i.e. Macbook Pro), but I didn't know what to choose - Due to the existance of Mac OSX, I didn't want to install X on my machine, I just want to learn Linux and/or Debian. However, setting my Mac as a server is not necessary, so I just get confused. BTW, w

Re (2): file system analogue of blkid.

2013-08-21 Thread peasthope
From: Sven Joachim Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 17:48:45 +0200 > for ext[234] filesystems > ... dumpe2fs(8) gives quite a lot of useful information. Exactly what I was aiming for, thanks, ... Peter E. -- 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 12 Tel +13606390202 Bc

Re: file system analogue of blkid.

2013-08-21 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2013-08-21 16:49 +0200, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: > blkid gives the salient parameters of a partition. > Is there an analogous command yielding parameters > of a filesystem? Hypothetically, > fsid /dev/sda1 > yielding type of filesystem, whether it is bootable, > number of inodes, size of bl

lvm2 on top of dm-crypt - how to add new hard disk

2013-08-21 Thread Luther Blissett
Hello folks, So I might better ask before attempting something stupid. I need to add a new hard drive to an encrypted debian box. The encryption scheme was set using debian installer defaults which resulted in just /dev/sda1 -> /boot outside block device encryption. Everything else is encrypted an

lvm2 on top of dm-crypt - how to add new hard disk

2013-08-21 Thread Luther Blissett
Hello folks, So I might better ask before attempting something stupid. I need to add a new hard drive to an encrypted debian box. The encryption scheme was set using debian installer defaults which resulted in just /dev/sda1 -> /boot outside block device encryption. Everything else is encrypted an

file system analogue of blkid.

2013-08-21 Thread peasthope
blkid gives the salient parameters of a partition. Is there an analogous command yielding parameters of a filesystem? Hypothetically, fsid /dev/sda1 yielding type of filesystem, whether it is bootable, number of inodes, size of blocks & etc. Thanks, ... Peter E. -- 123456789 12

trusting repository keys (was: deb-multimedia repository)

2013-08-21 Thread Jochen Spieker
Ralf Mardorf: > On Wed, 2013-08-21 at 13:38 +0200, Jochen Spieker wrote: >> Essentially, you have a chicken and egg problem. > > Wrong! No. Your advice is dangerous. > Keys usually are available by a keyserver you could trust, No. Just because a keyserver happens to serve some key that does not

Re: I'm going to install Debian in my Macbook Pro

2013-08-21 Thread 郭靖
在 2013年8月21日星期三UTC+8下午7时50分01秒,Lisi Reisz写道: > On Tuesday 20 August 2013 07:20:18 郭靖 wrote: > > > BTW, What I wish is just to divide the disk, then install as what Live CD > > > tells me. > > > > I have not personally ever installed form the live CD, but I have gained the > > impression on t

RE: ip_conntrack again

2013-08-21 Thread Sub
-Original Message- From: Darac Marjal [mailto:mailingl...@darac.org.uk] Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 12:47 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: ip_conntrack again On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 12:25:11PM +0200, Sub wrote: > Sorry to bother with this well known topic. But I was n

Re: deb-multimedia repository

2013-08-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2013-08-21 at 22:20 +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > On 8/21/13, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Wed, 2013-08-21 at 13:38 +0200, Jochen Spieker wrote: > >> Essentially, you have a chicken and egg problem. > > > > Wrong! > > Subtle! > > > Keys usually are available by a keyserver you could trus

Re: deb-multimedia repository

2013-08-21 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 8/21/13, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Wed, 2013-08-21 at 13:38 +0200, Jochen Spieker wrote: >> Essentially, you have a chicken and egg problem. > > Wrong! Subtle! > Keys usually are available by a keyserver you could trust, so for the > first time you'll get the key this way. Such a package will

Re: deb-multimedia repository

2013-08-21 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 12:13:44PM +0200, François Patte wrote: > Bonjour, > > I tried to install libdvdcss2 from this repository and followed a tuto > explaining that: > > 1- install deb-multimedia-keyring > > this package was not found seems to be correct because the > sources-list file sh

Re: I'm going to install Debian in my Macbook Pro

2013-08-21 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 20 August 2013 07:20:18 郭靖 wrote: > BTW, What I wish is just to divide the disk, then install as what Live CD > tells me. I have not personally ever installed form the live CD, but I have gained the impression on this list, that using the live CD as a live CD is great, but if you want

Re: deb-multimedia repository

2013-08-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2013-08-21 at 13:38 +0200, Jochen Spieker wrote: > Essentially, you have a chicken and egg problem. Wrong! Keys usually are available by a keyserver you could trust, so for the first time you'll get the key this way. Such a package will update keys as long as the older keys still can be u

Re: deb-multimedia repository

2013-08-21 Thread Jochen Spieker
François Patte: > > ATTENTION : les paquets suivants n'ont pas été authentifiés. > deb-multimedia-keyring > Faut-il installer ces paquets sans vérification (o/N) ? > > OK! it seems to be "normal" because the right keyring is not installed... Exactly. Your apt is missing the key required to ver

Re: deb-multimedia repository

2013-08-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2013-08-21 at 12:33 +0200, Thierry Chatelet wrote: > You need to apt-get update after installing the keyring package. Assumed something unexpected should happen and he wants to post the output, then LANG=C apt-get update -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.or

Re: ip_conntrack again

2013-08-21 Thread Darac Marjal
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 12:25:11PM +0200, Sub wrote: > Sorry to bother with this well known topic. But I was not able to find any > similar situation in this list archive… > > > ~# wc -l /proc/net/ip_conntrack > wc: /proc/net/ip_conntrack: No space left on device > 0 /proc/net/ip_conntrack This

Re: deb-multimedia repository

2013-08-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf
François please use LANG=C to switch to English output. The keyring adds security. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1377081910.1192.44.camel@archlinux

Re: deb-multimedia repository

2013-08-21 Thread Thierry Chatelet
The Wednesday 21 August 2013 12:13:44, François Patte wrote : > Bonjour, > > I tried to install libdvdcss2 from this repository and followed a tuto > explaining that: > > 1- install deb-multimedia-keyring > > this package was not found seems to be correct because the > sources-list file shou

ip_conntrack again

2013-08-21 Thread Sub
Sorry to bother with this well known topic. But I was not able to find any similar situation in this list archive… ~# wc -l /proc/net/ip_conntrack wc: /proc/net/ip_conntrack: No space left on device 0 /proc/net/ip_conntrack So I checked ip_conntrack_max In my next step: # sysctl net.ipv4.netfi

deb-multimedia repository

2013-08-21 Thread François Patte
Bonjour, I tried to install libdvdcss2 from this repository and followed a tuto explaining that: 1- install deb-multimedia-keyring this package was not found seems to be correct because the sources-list file should be modified before. That's what I did, adding: deb http://www.deb-multimedia

Re: ksh i386 ##

2013-08-21 Thread Phi Debian
Hi Bob, Well I dunno how to fill a report on ksh, is that at David Korn site? Or is it a debian specific. It happen on ubuntu as well. I admit I am not a linux guru, working on it occasionally. Cheers, Phi On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 12:56 AM, Bob Proulx wrote: > Phi Debian wrote: >> On a fresh d