Dist-upgrade or upgrade. Which?

2013-04-20 Thread Patrick Bartek
I've been using Wheezy 64-bit for several months now, and as recommended[1] having been using "dist-upgrade" for upgrading it.  My sources-list[2] is set to "Wheezy" and not "testing" as per those same instructions.  When Wheezy is promoted to "Stable" should I switch to "apt-get upgrade" instea

Re: LILO documentation

2013-04-20 Thread berenger . morel
Le 20.04.2013 19:58, Richard Owlett a écrit : Wayne Topa wrote: I KNOW. I KNOW ;) But you need to know the right key words. As a matter of fact Mr. Powell had just responded to my post suggesting I read one of his pagers. He beat you by minutes. Thanks. HTH -- Wayne So, may we conclu

Re: netconsole over pppoe

2013-04-20 Thread jidanni
http://www.aboutdebian.com/network.htm says Note: With point-to-point serial links like a dial-up connection between two modems (PPP Layer 2 protocol) ... but there is no addressing information in the frame header. OK so what do I use then? # ifconfig | grep HW eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWad

netconsole over pppoe

2013-04-20 Thread jidanni
All it takes is a few pluggin in and pulling out of USB devices to cause kernel 3.8 to panic. I can take a picture with a camera of the screen and send it to somebody, but I would rather try http://www.cmdln.org/2009/01/21/remote-kernel-logging-with-netconsole-for-fun-and-profit/ But it says I

Re: what's your Debian uptime?

2013-04-20 Thread Bob Proulx
Vincent Lefevre wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > I don't think uptime challenges are useful. It makes people want to > > do something that they shouldn't want to do. When kernel security > > upgrades come along just install them and reboot. > > That's theory. In practice, old machines get no longe

touch /var/lib/sudo/$USER / use sudo when unlocking xscreensaver (xfce)

2013-04-20 Thread Zenaan Harkness
I run sid XFCE, and have some keyboard shortcuts for docked-with-external-monitor, no-external-monitor (.screenlayout files) and corresponding networking configs. In rc.local, I put touch /var/lib/sudo/{my-usr} and I find this very convenient. I would like the same in principle, when unlocking xs

Re: what's your Debian uptime?

2013-04-20 Thread Bob Proulx
Chris Bannister wrote: > Over here in New Zealand, power switch up equals power off. I noticed that behavior when visiting your beautiful country! But I figured that since it was on the south side of the planet that the switches pointed toward the south pole for off and toward the north pole for

Re: rootfs

2013-04-20 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> > - With a package manager, if any of the rootfs, /usr or /var are > > damaged, you need to either restore the entire set from a backup > > or reinstall. This comes back to the fact that all locations > > under the control of the package manager are a unified whole: if one > > part bre

Suggestions for Debian

2013-04-20 Thread Nathan Owens
Where should we give suggestions on ideas? I would like to proprose the idea of maybe Debian offering a community repo like Arch Linux's AUR or does anybody know of a site that allows people to upload deb files to be shared with others? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.de

Re: rootfs

2013-04-20 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 09:43:08PM +0100, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > > > I am, as a matter of fact, subscribed to the FHS list. If you > > > read the specification, you'll see that it does not in any way > > > require /usr to be a *mountpoint*; it can be located on the root > > > filesystem without

Re: .wav to text?

2013-04-20 Thread John Hasler
Package: festival Version: 1:2.1~release-5.1 Installed-Size: 2651 Maintainer: Jean-Philippe MENGUAL Architecture: amd64 Depends: libaudiofile1 (>= 0.3.4), libc6 (>= 2.7), libesd0 (>= 0.2.35), libestools2.1, libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.1), libncurses5 (>= 5.5-5~), libstdc++6 (>= 4.4.0), libtinfo5, dpkg (>=

Re: administration of initscripts

2013-04-20 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 09:51:02PM +0100, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > > And that's a Linux problem where some BSDs put lots of effort into > > compliance only to have the standard changed to suit linux due to > > pressure. > > Which standard, POSIX? http://www.itwire.com/business-it-news/open-sourc

Re: rootfs

2013-04-20 Thread Roger Leigh
On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 09:43:08PM +0100, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > > I am, as a matter of fact, subscribed to the FHS list. If you read > > the specification, you'll see that it does not in any way require > > /usr to be a *mountpoint*; it can be located on the root filesystem > > without any probl

Re: .wav to text?

2013-04-20 Thread green
Karen Lewellen wrote at 2013-04-20 15:10 -0500: > Any open source Linux programs for this process? > Please note I am talking of a .wav file of a voice converted to a > text file. I know approximately nothing about speech recognition, but I have noticed ; you coul

Re: Image viewer with geotagging support

2013-04-20 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2013-04-20 12:40:56 -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > I'm looking for an image viewer that can read the geotagging information > from EXIF and display where the pictures were taken in a map, and > perhaps have the ability to edit that information (but I can live > without that). > > digiKam

Re: Serveur with encrypted partition : 2 steps boot.

2013-04-20 Thread Erwan David
Le 11/04/2013 08:25, Bob Proulx a écrit : Erwan David wrote: 2) add at the beginning of each /etc/init.d/myserv a test to stop if the encrypted partition is not mounted Neither of those solutions seems acceptable for me. So if someone has an idea, I'm listening. I would do one of two things.

Re: Serveur with encrypted partition : 2 steps boot.

2013-04-20 Thread Erwan David
Le 17/04/2013 01:15, Bob Proulx a écrit : Erwan David wrote: update-rc.d dovecot disable 2 reboot, indeed dovecot is not started telinit 3 dovecot does not start (even if there is a Sxxdovecot in /etc/rc3.d) Hmm... It should start. I just tested this on a service locally and it starts for me.

Re: what's your Debian uptime?

2013-04-20 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> > > > OpenBSD has only had something like two holes in over a decade > > which is nice for uptime. > > Let's not get carried away here. I was under the impression that > openbsd was one of the best things since sliced bread ... then I read > this: > http://allthatiswrong.wordpress.com/2010/01

.wav to text?

2013-04-20 Thread Karen Lewellen
Hi folks, Any open source Linux programs for this process? Please note I am talking of a .wav file of a voice converted to a text file. I know it can be done in windows, people use them for meeting transcript making. I suppose even a .mp3 tot ext file might work although mp3 can be low on the q

Re: rootfs

2013-04-20 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> I am, as a matter of fact, subscribed to the FHS list. If you read > the specification, you'll see that it does not in any way require > /usr to be a *mountpoint*; it can be located on the root filesystem > without any problems. It's actually the default partitioning method. > > Do you have a

Re: setting the system mail location

2013-04-20 Thread Wayne Topa
On 04/20/2013 02:47 PM, Rob Owens wrote: On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 02:39:12PM -0400, Wayne Topa wrote: On 04/20/2013 02:19 PM, Rob Owens wrote: My system mail is getting sent to $HOME/Mail/mbox instead of to /var/spool/mail/rob. I may have set that on purpose a long time ago, but I don't remembe

Re: setting the system mail location

2013-04-20 Thread Rob Owens
On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 02:39:12PM -0400, Wayne Topa wrote: > On 04/20/2013 02:19 PM, Rob Owens wrote: > >My system mail is getting sent to $HOME/Mail/mbox instead of to > >/var/spool/mail/rob. I may have set that on purpose a long time ago, > >but I don't remember. I'd like it to go to the norma

Re: setting the system mail location

2013-04-20 Thread Wayne Topa
On 04/20/2013 02:19 PM, Rob Owens wrote: My system mail is getting sent to $HOME/Mail/mbox instead of to /var/spool/mail/rob. I may have set that on purpose a long time ago, but I don't remember. I'd like it to go to the normal mail spool now. How do I set that? -Rob Check /etc/aliases and/

setting the system mail location

2013-04-20 Thread Rob Owens
My system mail is getting sent to $HOME/Mail/mbox instead of to /var/spool/mail/rob. I may have set that on purpose a long time ago, but I don't remember. I'd like it to go to the normal mail spool now. How do I set that? -Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: LILO documentation

2013-04-20 Thread Wayne Topa
On 04/20/2013 02:07 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Saturday 20 April 2013 17:51:54 Stephen Powell wrote: On Sat, 20 Apr 2013 10:12:51 -0400 (EDT), Richard Owlett wrote: I need complete documentation on LILO with emphasis on lilo.conf. I don't know about complete documentation, but the best lilo tut

Re: LILO documentation

2013-04-20 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Saturday 20 April 2013 17:51:54 Stephen Powell wrote: > On Sat, 20 Apr 2013 10:12:51 -0400 (EDT), Richard Owlett wrote: > > I need complete documentation on LILO with emphasis on lilo.conf. > > I don't know about complete documentation, but the best lilo tutorial > that I know of is > >http:

Re: LILO documentation

2013-04-20 Thread Richard Owlett
Wayne Topa wrote: On 04/20/2013 12:11 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: Tony van der Hoff wrote: On 20/04/13 16:19, Richard Owlett wrote: Tony van der Hoff wrote: On 20/04/13 15:50, Richard Owlett wrote: Tony van der Hoff wrote: On 20/04/13 15:12, Richard Owlett wrote: I need complete documentatio

Re: LILO documentation

2013-04-20 Thread Richard Owlett
Stephen Powell wrote: On Sat, 20 Apr 2013 10:12:51 -0400 (EDT), Richard Owlett wrote: I need complete documentation on LILO with emphasis on lilo.conf. I don't know about complete documentation, but the best lilo tutorial that I know of is http://users.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/lilo.htm I w

Re: LILO documentation

2013-04-20 Thread Wayne Topa
On 04/20/2013 12:11 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: Tony van der Hoff wrote: On 20/04/13 16:19, Richard Owlett wrote: Tony van der Hoff wrote: On 20/04/13 15:50, Richard Owlett wrote: Tony van der Hoff wrote: On 20/04/13 15:12, Richard Owlett wrote: I need complete documentation on LILO with emph

Re: LILO documentation

2013-04-20 Thread Stephen Powell
On Sat, 20 Apr 2013 10:12:51 -0400 (EDT), Richard Owlett wrote: > > I need complete documentation on LILO with emphasis on lilo.conf. I don't know about complete documentation, but the best lilo tutorial that I know of is http://users.wowway.com/~zlinuxman/lilo.htm I wrote the above-mentione

Re: rootfs

2013-04-20 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 10:50:05AM +0200, Raffaele Morelli wrote: > 2013/4/20 Jude DaShiell > > > Sorry, wrong list for reply. > > > ...though interesting :-) Although, not quite correct: http://www.lowellsmilecenter.com/blog/2008/02/04/calcium-and-stronger-teeth/ -- "If you're not careful,

Re: rc-update() 1.2

2013-04-20 Thread Thilo Six
Hello a bug has been identified which does make it necessary to update the above. -- Regards, Thilo 4096R/0xC70B1A8F 721B 1BA0 095C 1ABA 3FC6 7C18 89A4 A2A0 C70B 1A8F _myservice() { local cur prev words cword _init_completion || return if [[ $cword -ge 1 ]]; then _servic

Re: LILO documentation

2013-04-20 Thread Richard Owlett
Tony van der Hoff wrote: On 20/04/13 16:19, Richard Owlett wrote: Tony van der Hoff wrote: On 20/04/13 15:50, Richard Owlett wrote: Tony van der Hoff wrote: On 20/04/13 15:12, Richard Owlett wrote: I need complete documentation on LILO with emphasis on lilo.conf . Assume I'm stranded on a de

Re: administration of initscripts

2013-04-20 Thread Thilo Six
Hello Roger, Excerpt from myself: -- -- > insserv clearly complains instead that other services are affected by this > change. Generally to a admin insserv seems to be nicer API over update-rc.d to > me. Apart from that, by this i found a major bug in rc-update(). Will fix > that. i have que

Re: LILO documentation

2013-04-20 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 20/04/13 16:19, Richard Owlett wrote: > Tony van der Hoff wrote: >> On 20/04/13 15:50, Richard Owlett wrote: >>> Tony van der Hoff wrote: On 20/04/13 15:12, Richard Owlett wrote: > I need complete documentation on LILO with emphasis on lilo.conf . > Assume I'm stranded on a desert i

Image viewer with geotagging support

2013-04-20 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
I'm looking for an image viewer that can read the geotagging information from EXIF and display where the pictures were taken in a map, and perhaps have the ability to edit that information (but I can live without that). digiKam can do that and much more, and that's exactly why I'd like to avoid it

Re: LILO documentation

2013-04-20 Thread Richard Owlett
Tony van der Hoff wrote: On 20/04/13 15:50, Richard Owlett wrote: Tony van der Hoff wrote: On 20/04/13 15:12, Richard Owlett wrote: I need complete documentation on LILO with emphasis on lilo.conf . Assume I'm stranded on a desert isle (SW Missouri is a fair approximation) with a computer and

Re: LILO documentation

2013-04-20 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 20/04/13 15:50, Richard Owlett wrote: > Tony van der Hoff wrote: >> On 20/04/13 15:12, Richard Owlett wrote: >>> I need complete documentation on LILO with emphasis on lilo.conf . >>> Assume I'm stranded on a desert isle (SW Missouri is a fair >>> approximation) with a computer and a set of inst

Re: LILO documentation

2013-04-20 Thread Richard Owlett
Tony van der Hoff wrote: On 20/04/13 15:12, Richard Owlett wrote: I need complete documentation on LILO with emphasis on lilo.conf . Assume I'm stranded on a desert isle (SW Missouri is a fair approximation) with a computer and a set of install disks. What *ONE* document will answer ALL my LILO

Re: LILO documentation

2013-04-20 Thread Richard Owlett
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 20.04.2013 16:12, Richard Owlett a écrit : I need complete documentation on LILO with emphasis on lilo.conf . Assume I'm stranded on a desert isle (SW Missouri is a fair approximation) with a computer and a set of install disks. What *ONE* document will an

Re: administration of initscripts

2013-04-20 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 09:51:02PM +0100, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > And that's a Linux problem where some BSDs put lots of effort into > compliance only to have the standard changed to suit linux due to > pressure. Which standard, POSIX? > POSIX is a very good thing. Do you disagree? I could perhap

Re: LILO documentation

2013-04-20 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 20/04/13 15:12, Richard Owlett wrote: > I need complete documentation on LILO with emphasis on lilo.conf . > Assume I'm stranded on a desert isle (SW Missouri is a fair > approximation) with a computer and a set of install disks. > What *ONE* document will answer ALL my LILO questions. > Hint: m

Re: LILO documentation

2013-04-20 Thread berenger . morel
Le 20.04.2013 16:12, Richard Owlett a écrit : I need complete documentation on LILO with emphasis on lilo.conf . Assume I'm stranded on a desert isle (SW Missouri is a fair approximation) with a computer and a set of install disks. What *ONE* document will answer ALL my LILO questions. Hint: man

Re: administration of initscripts

2013-04-20 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 09:52:04PM +0100, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > And did it boot slower than with init scripts and waste valuable > memory. Lookup systemd on the buildroot list and you will see. Debian > may run on even a cheap toaster one day but systemd would causes issues > when that is possibl

LILO documentation

2013-04-20 Thread Richard Owlett
I need complete documentation on LILO with emphasis on lilo.conf . Assume I'm stranded on a desert isle (SW Missouri is a fair approximation) with a computer and a set of install disks. What *ONE* document will answer ALL my LILO questions. Hint: man pages and mini-HOTO's don't hack it. They pre

Re: what's your Debian uptime?

2013-04-20 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 09:22:18PM +0100, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > > OpenBSD has only had something like two holes in over a decade which is > nice for uptime. Let's not get carried away here. I was under the impression that openbsd was one of the best things since sliced bread ... then I read thi

Re: what's your Debian uptime?

2013-04-20 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 01:00:01AM -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > >From now on I *will* use male genital analogies, using "phallus", > "phalli", and "phallic", the academically correct words for describing > the sociological phenomenon. Then you can sit there and squirm in your > chair screaming lo

Re: what's your Debian uptime?

2013-04-20 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 09:45:21AM +0200, Helmut Wollmersdorfer wrote: > > In 1992 I worked late after usual office hours on my laptop (an IBM > 386) connected to the power supply and battery removed (to save > lifetime of the battery). > > Then the cleaning woman stepped in and asked: "May I vac

Re: what's your Debian uptime?

2013-04-20 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 08:18:15PM +0100, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > > On the humor side though I rememeber a story about a guy who moved his > > apartment. His machine was on a UPS. He determined a way to borrow a > > second UPS and daisy chain them for more uptime and then drove like a > > madman

Re: what's your Debian uptime?

2013-04-20 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 06:24:33PM +0200, Jochen Spieker wrote: > Lars Noodén: > > > > Oracle hasn't been the best steward for the other FOSS projects […] > > You are hereby given the Understatement of the Year Award! And it's only April!! :-D -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will hav

Re: what's your Debian uptime?

2013-04-20 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2013-04-18 10:56:53 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > I don't think uptime challenges are useful. It makes people want to > do something that they shouldn't want to do. When kernel security > upgrades come along just install them and reboot. That's theory. In practice, old machines get no longer sup

Re: administration of initscripts

2013-04-20 Thread Thilo Six
Hello Excerpt from Roger Leigh: -- -- > update-rc.d foo disable|enable > > is one method. -- -- i did played further around with this. First have a look at this: # find /etc/rc[S0-6].d/ -iname '*mountkernfs.sh*' /etc/rcS.d/S01mountkernfs.sh # update-rc.d mountkernfs.sh disable update-rc.

Re: rootfs

2013-04-20 Thread Roger Leigh
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 08:09:24PM +0100, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > > > /dev/mapper/debian-usr 4,6G 1,2G3,2G 28% /usr > > > > There's no real need to have /usr separate from / > > You could potentially merge the two. > > Unless you follow the installer, best practice and the Filesystem >

Re: rootfs

2013-04-20 Thread Raffaele Morelli
2013/4/20 Jude DaShiell > Sorry, wrong list for reply. ...though interesting :-)

100% cpu usage by hwC0D0, amd & usb 2.0-crw

2013-04-20 Thread war dhan
os: wheezy rc1. the 100% cpu usage is worrying me. i have updated grub with pcie_aspm=force. but the cpu usage is unchanged. should i download & install amd catalyst ? if you need any more information, please provide me appropriate & detailed commands. please always cc me [ i am not yet subscribe