Re: what's your Debian uptime?

2013-04-18 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 10:31:35PM -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > This isn't a manhood measurement contest. Let's avoid alienating some debian-user readers with such language. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact list

Re: what's your Debian uptime?

2013-04-18 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 4/18/2013 11:56 AM, Bob Proulx wrote: > I don't think uptime challenges are useful. It makes people want to > do something that they shouldn't want to do. Uptime is about continuous availability and reliability of infrastructure, systems, and software, with least disruption to users, and mi

Re: connect directly to another computer bypassing firewalls using a third server

2013-04-18 Thread green
alberto fuentes wrote at 2013-04-18 16:18 -0500: > Its a long shot because i can really picture how could it work > > I know I can connect using the third server, but I just want to use the > server to establish the connection Perhaps the nat-traverse package is of interest to you. signature.as

Re: connect directly to another computer bypassing firewalls using a third server

2013-04-18 Thread Bob Proulx
alberto fuentes wrote: > That way all the packages would be forwarded via the server. > > The server is overseas. Im trying to connect to a computer in my city. > Packages have to travel and comeback. I was hoping some kind of magic that > would allow me to use the server overseas *just* to establ

Re: connect directly to another computer bypassing firewalls using a third server

2013-04-18 Thread alberto fuentes
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 11:27 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > alberto fuentes wrote: > > Subject: connect directly to another computer bypassing firewalls > > using a third server > > Its a long shot because i can really picture how could it work > > > > I know I can connect using the third server, but I

Re: Three trials installing LILO - was [Re: Unexpected results attempting to install Squeeze(6.0.5) to USB flash drive]

2013-04-18 Thread Richard Owlett
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 18.04.2013 20:56, Richard Owlett a écrit : CASE 2 Installation ran to normal finish. On reboot I had a correct shell which accepted login. After executing su, I did apt-get install gnome-session gdm3 gedit gnome-terminal gparted

Re: connect directly to another computer bypassing firewalls using a third server

2013-04-18 Thread Bob Proulx
alberto fuentes wrote: > Subject: connect directly to another computer bypassing firewalls > using a third server > Its a long shot because i can really picture how could it work > > I know I can connect using the third server, but I just want to use the > server to establish the connection The c

connect directly to another computer bypassing firewalls using a third server

2013-04-18 Thread alberto fuentes
Its a long shot because i can really picture how could it work I know I can connect using the third server, but I just want to use the server to establish the connection Any ideas :)

Re: Profiling a dlopened library

2013-04-18 Thread berenger . morel
Le 18.04.2013 20:12, Niklaus a écrit : Hi, How do i profile a library which is dlopened from an executable. The executable and the library are compiled with -g using gcc . Can somone tell me tool that would profile it at runtime. Regards, Nik Try to search about valgrind. I do not know h

Re: Three trials installing LILO - was [Re: Unexpected results attempting to install Squeeze(6.0.5) to USB flash drive]

2013-04-18 Thread berenger . morel
Le 18.04.2013 20:56, Richard Owlett a écrit : CASE 2 Installation ran to normal finish. On reboot I had a correct shell which accepted login. After executing su, I did apt-get install gnome-session gdm3 gedit gnome-terminal gparted which ran to completion without erro

Three trials installing LILO - was [Re: Unexpected results attempting to install Squeeze(6.0.5) to USB flash drive]

2013-04-18 Thread Richard Owlett
I made three attempts to install using LILO as boot loader from most defaults to most customized: 1. install using all of the single install hard drive (using guided partitioning) 2. install to a logical partition after resizing partition created above 3. install to flash drive Installat

Re: what's your Debian uptime?

2013-04-18 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> > > > If i am not mistaken, The OpenBSD Team recommends a clean installation > > every 6 > > month. > > For users following -stable instead of -current, the support goes back two > releases which means about 12 to 18 months, since the releases have been > every 6 months: > > http://

Re: what's your Debian uptime?

2013-04-18 Thread Bob Proulx
Kevin Chadwick wrote: > Well I wouldn't go that far but I have taken the insert of a matchbox > cut a slot in it and stuck it over the power button so that when > reaching round the back there is no way of holding it down by accident. Protecting the power switch from accidentally switching off is

Re: wake on lan: power on, no boot

2013-04-18 Thread Soare Catalin
On Apr 18, 2013 10:14 AM, "Freddie" wrote: > > Hi Debian users, > > I asked this question to the debian-laptop list a few weeks ago but there's been no solution found. As I'm not convinced my issues are laptop specific I thought I'd open it up to the wider group. > > I'm wanting to wake my philips

Re: what's your Debian uptime?

2013-04-18 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> On the humor side though I rememeber a story about a guy who moved his > apartment. His machine was on a UPS. He determined a way to borrow a > second UPS and daisy chain them for more uptime and then drove like a > madman halfway to his new place where he had previously scouted and > found a p

Re: what's your Debian uptime?

2013-04-18 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> > OpenBSD has only had something like two holes in over a decade which is > > nice for uptime. > > Two holes in the default install, which is a very different thing to two > holes in the entire distribution. It is but you can see the erratas for the whole base system at openbsd.org/errata.htm

Profiling a dlopened library

2013-04-18 Thread Niklaus
Hi, How do i profile a library which is dlopened from an executable. The executable and the library are compiled with -g using gcc . Can somone tell me tool that would profile it at runtime. Regards, Nik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "un

Re: what's your Debian uptime?

2013-04-18 Thread Dan Ritter
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 10:56:53AM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > I don't think uptime challenges are useful. It makes people want to > do something that they shouldn't want to do. When kernel security > upgrades come along just install them and reboot. Human made > "machines" of all types have been

Re: Highlighting CLI output: what are these terms called?

2013-04-18 Thread Bob Proulx
Dotan Cohen wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > >> tail -f file.log | perl -pe 's/keyword/\e[1;31;43m$&\e[0m/g' > > > > Instead of that I would be inclined to use grep's --color option. > > Same thing but easier to type and remember. > > > > tail -f file.log | grep --color keyword > > > > Thank you Bob

Re: administration of initscripts

2013-04-18 Thread Thilo Six
Hello Roger Excerpt from Roger Leigh: -- -- >> Yes, the man page says it swaps the S for a K. >> e.g. say we have the following link: >> /etc/rc2.d/K10cups >> >> Then afaik - and please correct if i am wrong - init will call the stop part >> of >> this initscript when ever runlevel 2 is entere

Re: what's your Debian uptime?

2013-04-18 Thread Bob Proulx
Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 18. April 2013 schrieb Vincent Lefevre: > > On 2013-04-17 17:22:32 +1030, John Elliot wrote: > > > $ uptime 16:51:12 up 1136 days, 17:01, 1 user, load average: 0.22, > > > 0.12, 0.08 > > > > I got on 2012-11-01: > > > > 10:48:16 up 1150 days, 8:00,

Re: XEN 4.0 and Debian 6 HVM Problem.

2013-04-18 Thread Alan Drees
Hi, I know this thread is a little old, but was wondering if you figured out any solution to this problem? I have successfully run HVMs with the xen 4.1 in the repository for Debian 7 (Wheezy), but was running into stability issues. But as it stands, it still reboots on HVM execution. My h

Re: what's your Debian uptime?

2013-04-18 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 18 April 2013 14:33:51 green wrote: > Darac Marjal wrote at 2013-04-18 04:05 -0500: > > On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 10:43:27PM +0200, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: > > > Security issues, which affect modules, but not the kernel itself, may > > > not cause the need of a new kernel. When people lik

Re: Re: Random crashes that won't allow rebooting easily

2013-04-18 Thread Bill Harris
Soare, Thanks for your quick response. The laptop is currently crashed, and so I'll check logs and more later. I discovered uprecords a while back, and I've had uptimes as long as 136 days. I think the current mode of uptime is around 10-20 days, but it may be longer. I do sense that it's shor

Re: make deb-pkg

2013-04-18 Thread laurent Debian
Le 18/04/2013 02:53, Tom H a écrit : $ vi Makefile EXTRAVERSION = - where "-" is "" in "linux-image-__amd64.deb" Thanks that will do the job. Regards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: Highlighting CLI output: what are these terms called?

2013-04-18 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Chris Davies wrote: > These escape sequences do not need to be embedded into your programs; > they can be derived in a terminal-independent manner. See "man 5 terminfo" > for gory details. > > Here's an example that will display "world" in standout - but only on >

Re: Highlighting CLI output: what are these terms called?

2013-04-18 Thread berenger . morel
Le 18.04.2013 16:25, Dotan Cohen a écrit : On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 11:38 AM, "Morel Bérenger" wrote: Those are escape sequences from VT100 IIRC. And, if I am not wrong, they are quite the same as those used in ecma-48, which have free (as in free beer) specifications downloadable here: htt

Re: Highlighting CLI output: what are these terms called?

2013-04-18 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 8:17 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > The only regexp replacement in the right hand side is "$&". The > perlre docs say: > >man perlre > >$& returns the entire matched string. (At one point $0 did >also, but now it returns the name of the program.) > > This com

Re: Highlighting CLI output: what are these terms called?

2013-04-18 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 11:38 AM, "Morel Bérenger" wrote: > Those are escape sequences from VT100 IIRC. > And, if I am not wrong, they are quite the same as those used in ecma-48, > which have free (as in free beer) specifications downloadable here: > http://www.ecma-international.org/publications

Re: what's your Debian uptime?

2013-04-18 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Donnerstag, 18. April 2013 schrieb Vincent Lefevre: > On 2013-04-17 17:22:32 +1030, John Elliot wrote: > > $ uptime 16:51:12 up 1136 days, 17:01, 1 user, load average: 0.22, > > 0.12, 0.08 > > I got on 2012-11-01: > > 10:48:16 up 1150 days, 8:00, 1 user, load average: 0.83, 0.69, 0.31 >

Re: what's your Debian uptime?

2013-04-18 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Mittwoch, 17. April 2013 schrieb Stan Hoeppner: > Linux greer 3.2.6 #1 SMP Mon Feb 20 17:05:10 CST 2012 i686 GNU/Linux > 22:35:31 up 412 days, 10:05, 1 user, load average: 1.18, 0.97, 0.44 mondschein:~> uprecords # Uptime | System Boot u

Re: what's your Debian uptime?

2013-04-18 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Mittwoch, 17. April 2013 schrieb Jonathan Dowland: > My laptop is at 112 days. Of course it hasn't actually been "on" all > of those days. Had about 200 days on a hibernating workstation at work. And its nice in Juni or July to type who and see 18 Apr as login time for display :0 :) Ciao, --

Re: what's your Debian uptime?

2013-04-18 Thread green
Darac Marjal wrote at 2013-04-18 04:05 -0500: > On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 10:43:27PM +0200, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: > > Security issues, which affect modules, but not the kernel itself, may not > > cause > > the need of a new kernel. When people lik me and others on this list, are > > using a very

Re: Equivalent of --append-to-version for deb-pkg ?

2013-04-18 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 07:16:25PM +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: > It's a target in the Linux Makefile that produces a linux-image (and > linux-headers, linux-libc-dev) Debian package, see > scripts/package/builddeb in the Linux source tree. Thanks for the explanation: I haven't built a custom kernel

Re: what's your Debian uptime?

2013-04-18 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 09:22:18PM +0100, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > OpenBSD has only had something like two holes in over a decade which is > nice for uptime. Two holes in the default install, which is a very different thing to two holes in the entire distribution. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to deb

Re: what's your Debian uptime?

2013-04-18 Thread Jonathan Dowland
Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: >Not really. uptime reports the amount of time elapsed since the >system was booted, but I've noticed it is not paused for suspend >and hibernation. Yes: $ uprecords # Uptime | System Boot up --

Re: what's your Debian uptime?

2013-04-18 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2013-04-17 17:22:32 +1030, John Elliot wrote: > $ uptime 16:51:12 up 1136 days, 17:01, 1 user, load average: 0.22, 0.12, > 0.08 I got on 2012-11-01: 10:48:16 up 1150 days, 8:00, 1 user, load average: 0.83, 0.69, 0.31 But then there was a disk failure and the machine is no longer worki

Re: Fwd: Minor issue with reprepro...

2013-04-18 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 11:57:46AM +0100, Trey Blancher wrote: > I set up reprepro to replace my broken debmirror partial mirror, and it has > worked great.  Configure and forget about it.  I have one slight issue, > though. >  I have configured reprepro correctly, as far as I can tell, but I get

Réagir efficacement ?

2013-04-18 Thread marie-claire . gravillon
Bonjour, On rencontre dans tous les groupes des personnes dont le comportement désagréable complique la vie des autres. Nous en avons tous fait l'expérience. Et lorsque vient le temps de travailler au sein d'une organisation, cette loi de la vie se vérifie invariablement. Nous avons tous assi

Fwd: Minor issue with reprepro...

2013-04-18 Thread Trey Blancher
I set up reprepro to replace my broken debmirror partial mirror, and it has worked great. Configure and forget about it. I have one slight issue, though. I have configured reprepro correctly, as far as I can tell, but I get 404 warnings in my apache2 log, like so [Sat Apr 13 20:16:07 2013] [err

Re: Unexpected results attempting to install Squeeze(6.0.5) to USB flash drive

2013-04-18 Thread Richard Owlett
agroconsultor0 wrote: On 04/18/2013 02:43 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: agroconsultor0 wrote: On 04/16/2013 12:46 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: CAUTION: My goal does *NOT* resemble a normal install I want to do a full install to a USB flash drive (thumb drive). I am not looking to run the installer I

Re: Random crashes that won't allow rebooting easily

2013-04-18 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
Hi On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 06:41:58AM +0100, Bill Harris wrote: > I'm running an up-to-date Debian Squeeze 64-bit on a laptop. It's usually > been > stable, as I might expect from Debian Stable. From time to time, though, it > freezes at seemingly random times. I notice it mostly when I'm typi

Re: Unexpected results attempting to install Squeeze(6.0.5) to USB flash drive

2013-04-18 Thread agroconsultor0
On 04/18/2013 02:43 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: agroconsultor0 wrote: On 04/16/2013 12:46 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: CAUTION: My goal does *NOT* resemble a normal install I want to do a full install to a USB flash drive (thumb drive). I am not looking to run the installer ISO from the flash drive

Re: Unexpected results attempting to install Squeeze(6.0.5) to USB flash drive

2013-04-18 Thread Richard Owlett
agroconsultor0 wrote: On 04/16/2013 12:46 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: CAUTION: My goal does *NOT* resemble a normal install I want to do a full install to a USB flash drive (thumb drive). I am not looking to run the installer ISO from the flash drive. I do not want a "LIVE install" with or withou

Re: Unexpected results attempting to install Squeeze(6.0.5) to USB flash drive

2013-04-18 Thread Richard Owlett
Curt wrote: On 2013-04-17, Bob Proulx wrote: I booted the installation up in kvm (with -m 1024) (I chose the LXDE desktop); it's pretty damn snappy even when run inside the virtual machine. Much snappier than the live isohybrid with LXDE I put on a usb stick and ran in kvm in the same way.

Re: what's your Debian uptime?

2013-04-18 Thread Darac Marjal
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 10:43:27PM +0200, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: > It is interesting. Whenever I someone is telling of big uptime, the arguiment > is: > [cut] > > 2. Security issues > > But a kernel can stay very, verry long time. On machines, where you do not > change hard or software (i.e.

Re: Random crashes that won't allow rebooting easily

2013-04-18 Thread Soare Catalin
On Apr 18, 2013 11:29 AM, "Soare Catalin" wrote: > > On Apr 18, 2013 8:42 AM, "Bill Harris" wrote: > > > > I'm running an up-to-date Debian Squeeze 64-bit on a laptop. It's usually been stable, as I might expect from Debian Stable. From time to time, though, it freezes at seemingly random times

Re: what's your Debian uptime?

2013-04-18 Thread Lars Nooden
On Thu, 18 Apr 2013, agroconsultor0 wrote: > On 04/17/2013 01:22 PM, Kevin Chadwick wrote: [snip] > > OpenBSD has only had something like two holes in over a decade which is > > nice for uptime. > > If i am not mistaken, The OpenBSD Team recommends a clean installation every 6 > month. For users

Re: Random crashes that won't allow rebooting easily

2013-04-18 Thread Soare Catalin
On Apr 18, 2013 8:42 AM, "Bill Harris" wrote: > > I'm running an up-to-date Debian Squeeze 64-bit on a laptop. It's usually been stable, as I might expect from Debian Stable. From time to time, though, it freezes at seemingly random times. I notice it mostly when I'm typing and the keyboard sto

Re: Unexpected results attempting to install Squeeze(6.0.5) to USB flash drive

2013-04-18 Thread Curt
On 2013-04-17, Bob Proulx wrote: > >> I booted the installation up in kvm (with -m 1024) (I chose the LXDE >> desktop); it's pretty damn snappy even when run inside the virtual >> machine. Much snappier than the live isohybrid with LXDE I put on a >> usb stick and ran in kvm in the same way. > > C

Re: Highlighting CLI output: what are these terms called?

2013-04-18 Thread Chris Davies
"Morel Bérenger" wrote: > Le Mer 17 avril 2013 10:22, Dotan Cohen a écrit : >> tail -f file.log | perl -pe 's/keyword/\e[1;31;43m$&\e[0m/g' > Those are escape sequences from VT100 IIRC. These escape sequences do not need to be embedded into your programs; they can be derived in a terminal-indepe

Re: vnc server

2013-04-18 Thread Chris Davies
ChadDavis wrote: > Clarification. Are you saying that some vnc servers serve up a remote > login to a new session, while others simply share an existing gnome > session? Yes. vino shares the existing Gnome session (see System > Preferences > Remote Desktop). I'm sure there's an equivalent for KD

Re: what's your Debian uptime?

2013-04-18 Thread agroconsultor0
On 04/17/2013 01:22 PM, Kevin Chadwick wrote: Linux greer 3.2.6 #1 SMP Mon Feb 20 17:05:10 CST 2012 i686 GNU/Linux 22:35:31 up 412 days, 10:05, 1 user, load average: 1.18, 0.97, 0.44 So you are over a year behind in installing security updates for the kernel. (I know, if your machine doesn'

Re: Unexpected results attempting to install Squeeze(6.0.5) to USB flash drive

2013-04-18 Thread agroconsultor0
On 04/16/2013 12:46 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: CAUTION: My goal does *NOT* resemble a normal install I want to do a full install to a USB flash drive (thumb drive). I am not looking to run the installer ISO from the flash drive. I do not want a "LIVE install" with or without persistence. Due

wake on lan: power on, no boot

2013-04-18 Thread Freddie
Hi Debian users, I asked this question to the debian-laptop list a few weeks ago but there's been no solution found. As I'm not convinced my issues are laptop specific I thought I'd open it up to the wider group. I'm wanting to wake my philips freeline X10 laptop (circa 2004) using wol. I've