Random crashes that won't allow rebooting easily

I'm running an up-to-date Debian Squeeze 64-bit on a laptop. It's usually been stable, as I might expect from Debian Stable. From time to time, though, it freezes at seemingly random times. I notice it mostly when I'm typing and the keyboard stops responding, but I'm not sure it always freezes w

Re: what's your Debian uptime?

Linux STRUMMER 2.6.26-2-amd64 #1 SMP Wed Sep 21 03:36:44 UTC 2011 x86_64 GNU/Linux 22:46:24 up 272 days, 14:08, 2 users, load average: 1.00, 1.10, 1.07 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian

Re: what's your Debian uptime?

On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 04:02:45 -0500 Stan Hoeppner wrote: > On 4/17/2013 1:10 AM, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: > > Am Mittwoch, 17. April 2013 schrieb Tixy: > >> On Tue, 2013-04-16 at 22:59 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > >>> Linux greer 3.2.6 #1 SMP Mon Feb 20 17:05:10 CST 2012 i686 GNU/Linux > >>> > >>>

Re: what's your Debian uptime?

Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: On Qua, 17 Abr 2013, Bob Proulx wrote: I believe linux only accrues uptime when it is on and running. Suspended it will pause the uptime. Resumed it will start ticking again. Not really. uptime reports the amount of time elapsed since the system was booted, but I'

Re: what's your Debian uptime?

I agree with Hans. For instance, I had a sid box back in the day which was my dhcp server (an old laptop). It was behind a firewall, and not accessible from the internet. (I know, no security is 100%, but i have defense in depth.) Plus, I too had built a minimal kernel. In any case, my record is s

Re: make-kpkg doesn't work properly when compiling i386 kernel on amd64 host

In article you write: >Hello, I am trying to build a kernel for my i386 PC on a amd64 server. > >I follow a old instrusion at >http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2008/07/msg00926.html . It can build >the kernel itself correctly, but the problem is script tools such as >genksyms are build as amd

Re: administration of initscripts

On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 08:55:42PM +0200, Thilo Six wrote: > Hello Roger > > > Excerpt from Roger Leigh: > > >>> update-rc.d foo disable|enable > > -- -- > >> It might be a nuisance but running the stop part of the initscript isn't > >> the > >> same as not touching it all? > > > > Sorry, I

Re: what's your Debian uptime?

It is interesting. Whenever I someone is telling of big uptime, the arguiment is: Your server can not be secure! You have an old kernel! You MUST install/update the newest kernel and of course reboot. But this is not correct. For which reason a new kernel is necessary? 1. If there are extrem

rc-update() 1.0

Hello you might have read: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2013/04/msg00644.html In case you are interested i updated rc-update() to be able to handle several services at once: # rc-update enable|disable|show ... The API has changed (not good), but i consider the feature addition signific

Re: administration of initscripts

> On 04/16/2013 03:02 PM, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > >>> Lets not pollute this useful thread with systemd > >> It seems a thread about init systems and administration/tweaking of them > >> is the > >> most appropriate place for systemd to be mentioned. Not least that it can > >> solve > >> the pro

Re: administration of initscripts

> > I believe very strongly that it is. universality with Linux supporting > > smaller and smaller Arm chips is part of what I was touching on in the > > paragraph you had a hard time deciphering. This is something BSD is > > having a hard time competing with atleast in my experience of wanting > >

Re: administration of initscripts

> Although, I accept there is no real excuse for my rudeness. No worries, I have a thick actually english skin as I hope those I talk to do too. If you think that's rude, you are probably a gent. -- ___ 'Write programs that do

Re: what's your Debian uptime?

> > > Linux greer 3.2.6 #1 SMP Mon Feb 20 17:05:10 CST 2012 i686 GNU/Linux > > > > > > 22:35:31 up 412 days, 10:05, 1 user, load average: 1.18, 0.97, 0.44 > > > > So you are over a year behind in installing security updates for the > > kernel. (I know, if your machine doesn't have untrusted

Re: Unexpected results attempting to install Squeeze(6.0.5) to USB flash drive

Curt wrote: > Richard Owlett wrote: > > I think we have different ideas of "full install to a USB > > flash drive" ;/ > > We do? > > > I want to wander from machine to machine carrying only the > > flash drive resulting in picking up my work where I left off. > > If I understand your descriptio

Re: administration of initscripts

Joel Roth wrote: > I suppose the answer is that there is no shortcut to > administering a system than learning the details. Nope. No such thing as a free lunch. And in the free(dom) software community we have the additional free market burden of many different sources. There are many different

Re: make-kpkg doesn't work properly when compiling i386 kernel on amd64 host

On 04/17/2013 12:44 PM, 曹思亮 wrote: > Hello, I am trying to build a kernel for my i386 PC on a amd64 server. You might also try to build it inside an i386 chroot-environment on your amd64 server. > I follow a old instrusion at > http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2008/07/msg00926.html . It can bu

Re: Unexpected results attempting to install Squeeze(6.0.5) to USB flash drive

On 2013-04-17, Richard Owlett wrote: > > I think we have different ideas of "full install to a USB > flash drive" ;/ We do? > I want to wander from machine to machine carrying only the > flash drive resulting in picking up my work where I left off. > If I understand your description correctly,

Re: administration of initscripts

Hello Roger Excerpt from Roger Leigh: >>> update-rc.d foo disable|enable -- -- >> It might be a nuisance but running the stop part of the initscript isn't the >> same as not touching it all? > > Sorry, I don't quite understand the question here. update-rc.d > never starts or stops anything--

Re: Unexpected results attempting to install Squeeze(6.0.5) to USB flash drive

Curt wrote: On 2013-04-16, Richard Owlett wrote: CAUTION: My goal does *NOT* resemble a normal install I want to do a full install to a USB flash drive (thumb drive). I am not looking to run the installer ISO from the flash drive. I do not want a "LIVE install" with or without persistence. I

Re: Terminals

Lars Nooden wrote: > Another option is "cu", I'm not sure how it compares to minicom directly, > but I find it useful. A flashback to 1980/1990... An advantage of cu is that it integrates perfectly with uucp. If you have uucp installed, configured and running then it might be using the serial

Re: administration of initscripts

Bob Proulx wrote: > Joel Roth wrote: > > Roger Leigh wrote: > > > Getting rid of all the /etc/default disable options will be a release > > > goal for jessie. > > > > Good. I'd prefer to be rid of /etc/default entirely! > > So you would rather that people edit the /ec/init.d/* scripts > themselve

Re: Terminals

On Wed, 17 Apr 2013, Bob Proulx wrote: [snip] > # apt-get install minicom [snip] > Then just leave it running forever. It will always be there when you > come back to that vt with Alt-F4. [snip] Another option is "cu", I'm not sure how it compares to minicom directly, but I find it useful.

Re: what's your Debian uptime?

On Qua, 17 Abr 2013, Bob Proulx wrote: I believe linux only accrues uptime when it is on and running. Suspended it will pause the uptime. Resumed it will start ticking again. Not really. uptime reports the amount of time elapsed since the system was booted, but I've noticed it is not paused

Re: Terminals

Darac Marjal wrote: > ja...@jatos.co.uk wrote: > > Firstly need to know the name of the feature that allows me to > > access /dev/tty0, /dev/tty1 etc and switch between them by press > > alt+F1, alt+F2 and so on. > > These are "Virtual Terminals" or "Virtual Consoles". They are "Virtual" > in the

Re: Highlighting CLI output: what are these terms called?

Dotan Cohen wrote: > The following page has a nice example of how to highlight text in logfiles: > http://www.euperia.com/linux/how-to-highlight-keywords-when-using-tail/903 > > Here is the example: > tail -f file.log | perl -pe 's/keyword/\e[1;31;43m$&\e[0m/g' > > What are the regex replacements

Re: Equivalent of --append-to-version for deb-pkg ?

On 2013-04-17 18:04 +0200, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > What is deb-pkg or where did you get it from? I couldn't find any such binary > name in any package in Debian via a search at packages.debian.org. It's a target in the Linux Makefile that produces a linux-image (and linux-headers, linux-libc-de

Re: what's your Debian uptime?

Jonathan Dowland wrote: > My laptop is at 112 days. Of course it hasn't actually been "on" all > of those days. If that is the kernel reported uptime then I think it has been on all of those reported uptime days. I believe linux only accrues uptime when it is on and running. Suspended it will pa

Re: vnc server

ChadDavis wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > And then people found that starting a server was inconvenient. > > Wouldn't it be better to export the current desktop? Instead of > > exporting a new, unique and different desktop? It is possible. > > Clarification. Are you saying that some vnc servers

Re: what's your Debian uptime?

On Wed, 17 Apr 2013, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 17:41:12 +0300 (EEST) > Lars Noodén wrote: > > Hello Lars, > > >What's the status of ksplice in Debian? Oracle hasn't been the best > > TBH, I don't know. It's in testing at v0.9.9-4. How that compares with > upstream, I'm not su

Re: administration of initscripts

Joel Roth wrote: > Roger Leigh wrote: > > Getting rid of all the /etc/default disable options will be a release > > goal for jessie. > > Good. I'd prefer to be rid of /etc/default entirely! So you would rather that people edit the /ec/init.d/* scripts themselves and manage them as conffiles at up

Re: what's your Debian uptime?

On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 18:24:33 +0200 Jochen Spieker wrote: Hello Jochen, >Lars Noodén: >> Oracle hasn't been the best steward for the other FOSS projects […] >You are hereby given the Understatement of the Year Award! :-)) -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is

Re: what's your Debian uptime?

On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 17:41:12 +0300 (EEST) Lars Noodén wrote: Hello Lars, >What's the status of ksplice in Debian? Oracle hasn't been the best TBH, I don't know. It's in testing at v0.9.9-4. How that compares with upstream, I'm not sure, as the Oracle web site seems reluctant to let me find o

Re: what's your Debian uptime?

Lars Noodén: > > Oracle hasn't been the best steward for the other FOSS projects […] You are hereby given the Understatement of the Year Award! J. -- I have been manipulated and permanently distorted. [Agree] [Disagree]

Re: Equivalent of --append-to-version for deb-pkg ?

What is deb-pkg or where did you get it from? I couldn't find any such binary name in any package in Debian via a search at packages.debian.org. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive

Re: vnc server

If you want to share your existing GNOME 3 desktop session, it's "vino", and you want to run "vino-preferences" to set the password, whether it's read only, etc. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.d

Re: administration of initscripts

On 04/16/2013 03:02 PM, Kevin Chadwick wrote: Lets not pollute this useful thread with systemd It seems a thread about init systems and administration/tweaking of them is the most appropriate place for systemd to be mentioned. Not least that it can solve the problem the OP had. It should not be

Re: Unexpected results attempting to install Squeeze(6.0.5) to USB flash drive

On 2013-04-16, Richard Owlett wrote: > CAUTION: My goal does *NOT* resemble a normal install > > I want to do a full install to a USB flash drive (thumb > drive). I am not looking to run the installer ISO from the > flash drive. I do not want a "LIVE install" with or without > persistence. I j

Re: administration of initscripts

On 04/16/2013 11:55 AM, Thilo Six wrote: Hello Michael, Excerpt from Michael Biebl: -- -- + dropping human readable textfiles in favour of c binary code, which makes it needless more complex to debug the whole show. That's non-sense. systemd unit files are text-files in ini-like format and

Re: vnc server

> > The vncserver and xvncviewer names use the Debian Alternatives > system. You can read more about that here: > > That helps! > > And then people found that starting a server was inconvenient. > Wouldn't it be better to export the current desktop? Instead of > exporting a new, unique and diffe

Re: what's your Debian uptime?

On 4/17/13 3:12 PM, Brad Rogers wrote: [snip] > ksplice can be used for security patching the kernel. [snip] What's the status of ksplice in Debian? Oracle hasn't been the best steward for the other FOSS projects and it's been a while since ksplice was in the news. Regards, /Lars -- To UNSUB

Re: what's your Debian uptime?

On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 09:59:45 + Bonno Bloksma wrote: Hello Bonno, >Now I applaud a long uptime but... After a kernel upgrade or a Debian >point release one must or should do a reboot or the updates are not >applied so.. ksplice can be used for security patching the kernel. This goes some wa

Re: administration of initscripts

Roger Leigh wrote: > Getting rid of all the /etc/default disable options will be a release > goal for jessie. Good. I'd prefer to be rid of /etc/default entirely! For example, I just learned about /etc/default/keyboard. Why not /etc/keyboard or /etc/keyboard.default? Having a central location fo

Re: administration of initscripts

On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 08:30:45PM -0400, staticsafe wrote: > On 4/16/2013 19:33, Chris Bannister wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 10:21:02PM +0100, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > >> I believe very strongly that it is. universality with Linux supporting > >

Re: administration of initscripts

On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 10:21:02PM +0100, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > I believe very strongly that it is. universality with Linux supporting > smaller and smaller Arm chips is part of what I was touching on in the > paragraph you had a hard time deciphering. This is something BSD is > having a hard tim

Re: Terminals

On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 11:13:22AM +, ja...@jatos.co.uk wrote: > Hi > > Firstly need to know the name of the feature that allows me to access > /dev/tty0, /dev/tty1 etc and switch between them by press alt+F1, alt+F2 and > so on. These are "Virtual Terminals" or "Virtual Consoles". They are

Re: what's your Debian uptime?

My laptop is at 112 days. Of course it hasn't actually been "on" all of those days. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130417115728.GE19117@debian

Terminals

Hi Firstly need to know the name of the feature that allows me to access /dev/tty0, /dev/tty1 etc and switch between them by press alt+F1, alt+F2 and so on. Secondly, how would I configure this feature, in particular I'd like to configure it to allow me to press probably alt+F7 and access a se

make-kpkg doesn't work properly when compiling i386 kernel on amd64 host

Hello, I am trying to build a kernel for my i386 PC on a amd64 server. I follow a old instrusion at http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2008/07/msg00926.html . It can build the kernel itself correctly, but the problem is script tools such as genksyms are build as amd64 format. I notice that Linux

RE: what's your Debian uptime?

Hello hans, > Am Mittwoch, 17. April 2013 schrieb Stan Hoeppner: >> Linux greer 3.2.6 #1 SMP Mon Feb 20 17:05:10 CST 2012 i686 GNU/Linux >> 22:35:31 up 412 days, 10:05, 1 user, load average: 1.18, 0.97, 0.44 > > Great, but beat this! More than 500 days. At about 650 days uptime I rebooted > ac

Re: what's your Debian uptime?

On 4/17/2013 1:10 AM, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: > Am Mittwoch, 17. April 2013 schrieb Tixy: >> On Tue, 2013-04-16 at 22:59 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote: >>> Linux greer 3.2.6 #1 SMP Mon Feb 20 17:05:10 CST 2012 i686 GNU/Linux >>> >>> 22:35:31 up 412 days, 10:05, 1 user, load average: 1.18, 0.97, 0.44

Re: Highlighting CLI output: what are these terms called?

On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Loïc Grenié wrote: > Hi, > > these are ANSI escape codes, ANSI escape sequences, > ANSI control codes, ANSI control sequences, ... > Great, thank you Loïc. -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to deb

Re: Unexpected results attempting to install Squeeze(6.0.5) to USB flash drive

Le Mar 16 avril 2013 21:46, Richard Owlett a écrit : > CAUTION: My goal does *NOT* resemble a normal install > > > I want to do a full install to a USB flash drive (thumb > drive). I am not looking to run the installer ISO from the flash drive. I > do not want a "LIVE install" with or without persi

Re: Highlighting CLI output: what are these terms called?

Le Mer 17 avril 2013 10:22, Dotan Cohen a écrit : > The following page has a nice example of how to highlight text in > logfiles: > http://www.euperia.com/linux/how-to-highlight-keywords-when-using-tail/903 > > > Here is the example: > tail -f file.log | perl -pe 's/keyword/\e[1;31;43m$&\e[0m/g' >

Re: Highlighting CLI output: what are these terms called?

2013/4/17 Dotan Cohen : > The following page has a nice example of how to highlight text in logfiles: > http://www.euperia.com/linux/how-to-highlight-keywords-when-using-tail/903 > > Here is the example: > tail -f file.log | perl -pe 's/keyword/\e[1;31;43m$&\e[0m/g' > > What are the regex replaceme

Highlighting CLI output: what are these terms called?

The following page has a nice example of how to highlight text in logfiles: http://www.euperia.com/linux/how-to-highlight-keywords-when-using-tail/903 Here is the example: tail -f file.log | perl -pe 's/keyword/\e[1;31;43m$&\e[0m/g' What are the regex replacements in the second part of the replac