Re: Refining the question - was [Re: Wanted: an internet free minimal Debian install]

2013-03-10 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 09:04:12AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > There may be some 386 machines > (dealing with those on a case by case basis would be feasible). Unless I'm very much mistaken, for 386, you'll have to look at BSD. -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating t

Re: Wanted: an internet free minimal Debian install

2013-03-10 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 09:32:59AM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > Perhaps there's a marketing opportunity: > Instead of "netinst.iso" perhaps "damn-thats-minimal.iso" Might get confused with Damn Small Linux. -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are bei

Re: Two copies of E-Mail (Re: I wish to advocate linux)

2013-03-10 Thread David Guntner
Bob Proulx grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > David Guntner wrote: >> Brian grabbed a keyboard and wrote: Would it be possible to also pipe outgoing mail through procmail or similar, on its way to the MTA/SMTP server? >>> ... >>> There is a Debian package of proxsmtp. This program can proxy

Re: A question about how to ask a question

2013-03-10 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 01:21:23PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > Freedom does not mean free of effort. I like it! :) Although in this case the OP is not sure what to look for and seems to have made quite a bit of effort IMHO. Not knowing Ubuntu myself, and not using HDMI either I can't offer a

Re: Two copies of E-Mail (Re: I wish to advocate linux)

2013-03-10 Thread Bob Proulx
David Guntner wrote: > Brian grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > > > Would it be possible to also pipe outgoing mail through procmail or > > > similar, on its way to the MTA/SMTP server? > > ... > > There is a Debian package of proxsmtp. This program can proxy mail to a > > local or remote MTA. More to

Re: grey screen in googleearth

2013-03-10 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 10:29 PM, sp113438 wrote: > Hello, > > I ran 'make-googleearth-package' and installed google-earth. > Result: grey screen in the Google-earth window instead of the globe, map. > > My system: > Squeeze > amd64 > nvidia-driver 'NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-310.32.run' > kernel 2.6.32-

grey screen in googleearth

2013-03-10 Thread sp113438
Hello, I ran 'make-googleearth-package' and installed google-earth. Result: grey screen in the Google-earth window instead of the globe, map. My system: Squeeze amd64 nvidia-driver 'NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-310.32.run' kernel 2.6.32-5-amd64 Google Earth about shows: Google Earth 6.0.3.2197 Buil

Re: display issues

2013-03-10 Thread Harvey Kelly
Hi Michael, > On 03/10/2013 07:23 PM, Michael wrote: >> My display is skewed to the right about 1/4 inch. While in a terminal >> window, I run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and it comes back to the >> prompt after about two seconds. On 11 March 2013 00:02, Wayne Topa wrote: > It would be h

Re: cannot uninstall linux-image-2.6.32-5-686 (SOLVED)

2013-03-10 Thread David Zelinsky
Hugo Vanwoerkom writes: > David Zelinsky wrote: >> ... Worse, the linux-image package did not install properly, with >> some part of the post-install script returning errors (zz-update-grub). >> The rest of the dist-upgrade appeared to succeed, but the >> linux-image-2.6.32-5-686 package is in a

Re: display issues

2013-03-10 Thread Wayne Topa
On 03/10/2013 07:23 PM, Michael wrote: Debian 6.0.7 gdm3 LG Flatron monitor model W2253VP My display is skewed to the right about 1/4 inch. While in a terminal window, I run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and it comes back to the prompt after about two seconds. I rebooted and logged into r

Re: Two copies of E-Mail (Re: I wish to advocate linux)

2013-03-10 Thread David Guntner
Brian grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > On Sun 10 Mar 2013 at 15:00:29 +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > >> Would it be possible to also pipe outgoing mail through procmail or >> similar, on its way to the MTA/SMTP server? > > When I initially looked at this I thought "maybe", but it did not seem > p

Re: A question about how to ask a question

2013-03-10 Thread Zenaan Harkness
Hi Olivier, I prefer the other guy's answer "put it down to bad luck" [that you did not get answer so quickly]. On 3/11/13, Olivier Cailloux wrote: > Le 10/03/2013 03:21, Zenaan Harkness a écrit : >>> My graphic card is connected through HDMI to my screen. I get no sound, > Yes indeed, my speaker

display issues

2013-03-10 Thread Michael
Debian 6.0.7 gdm3 LG Flatron monitor model W2253VP My display is skewed to the right about 1/4 inch. While in a terminal window, I run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and it comes back to the prompt after about two seconds. I rebooted and logged into root terminal and the same results occur

Re: Two copies of E-Mail (Re: I wish to advocate linux)

2013-03-10 Thread Brian
On Sun 10 Mar 2013 at 00:37:59 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: > Zenaan Harkness wrote: > > > > Cool :) > > > > Thanks for sharing. Appreciated. > > +1. I also think that is pretty cool. Since Message-Id is one of the > few that would be passed through. However many clients do not do > this. I hav

Re: Two copies of E-Mail (Re: I wish to advocate linux)

2013-03-10 Thread Brian
On Sun 10 Mar 2013 at 15:00:29 +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > Would it be possible to also pipe outgoing mail through procmail or > similar, on its way to the MTA/SMTP server? When I initially looked at this I thought "maybe", but it did not seem particularly friendly to do. More to the point, I

Re: Rooting an Android Tablet on Debian

2013-03-10 Thread Carl Fink
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 02:57:18PM -0400, Charles Kroeger wrote: > I got a Kobo Arc that runs Android 4.0.4 and would like to become su for this > device. There are paid services but I don't like the sound of them and they're > expensive. Since Android is Debian several times removed, I was wonder

Re: Wanted: an internet free minimal Debian install

2013-03-10 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 3/11/13, Bob Proulx wrote: > Kelly Clowers wrote: >> Bob Proulx wrote: >> > Tom H poked me that the netinst image can be used without a network. >> > It is 168M and much smaller than the full CD#1. I just did an install .. >> That is how I always install, I never install more packages than wh

Re: A question about how to ask a question

2013-03-10 Thread Olivier Cailloux
Hello Zenaan, Thanks for your detailed answer. On a general note, I tried to include details that I thought are at least a bit relevant (thus exclude details that I thought are not), in order not to make my post overly long. But that also requires some expertise I may lack... Le 10/03/2013 0

Re: Refining the question - was [Re: Wanted: an internet free minimal Debian install]

2013-03-10 Thread Richard Owlett
Lisi Reisz wrote: On Sunday 10 March 2013 14:04:12 Richard Owlett wrote: How to define "minimal install"? ;/ [snip] Richard - had you thought of the Debian Business Card installer? No. But see my reply to Mr. Owens. I saw his note moments before yours ;) Even smaller and nearer to min

Re: cannot uninstall linux-image-2.6.32-5-686

2013-03-10 Thread Bob Proulx
David Zelinsky wrote: > I just did an 'apt-get dist-upgrade' from the lasted squeeze update, and > failed to notice it had decided to install a stock kernel image: > linux-image-2.6.32-5-686_2.6.32-48squeeze1. I did not want this, since > I'm using a custom kernel, and I'm not sure the stock kerne

Re: Refining the question - was [Re: Wanted: an internet free minimal Debian install]

2013-03-10 Thread Brian
On Sun 10 Mar 2013 at 10:24:30 -0400, Rob Owens wrote: > There is a smaller installation CD called the businesscard CD. I'm not > sure if it contains everything you need for a minimal system, or if it > requires downloading packages from the internet. It contains only the installer components. E

Re: Refining the question - was [Re: Wanted: an internet free minimal Debian install]

2013-03-10 Thread Richard Owlett
Rob Owens wrote: On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 09:04:12AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: The next next issue is CPU and memory. My home machines are GHz dual core with GBytes of ram etc. However there are donated machines at church that I wish to migrate from OSes as old as Win95. I know I'll have to de

Re: Wanted: an internet free minimal Debian install

2013-03-10 Thread Bob Proulx
Kelly Clowers wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > > Tom H poked me that the netinst image can be used without a network. > > It is 168M and much smaller than the full CD#1. I just did an install > > test using it in Expert mode and was able to verify that it is indeed > > possible to use the smaller neti

Problem with LAN Printer in Testing

2013-03-10 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
I have just installed Debian Wheezy/Testing on my main production machine. HPLIP-3.12.6 sets up the LAN printer, but when I attempt printing a test page I get the following messages: computation@abnormal:~$ /usr/bin/hp-printsettings HP Linux Imaging and Printing System (ver. 3.12.6) Printer Sett

Rooting an Android Tablet on Debian

2013-03-10 Thread Charles Kroeger
I got a Kobo Arc that runs Android 4.0.4 and would like to become su for this device. There are paid services but I don't like the sound of them and they're expensive. Since Android is Debian several times removed, I was wondering if anyone here had a script that might help? I use Calibre with t

Re: cannot uninstall linux-image-2.6.32-5-686

2013-03-10 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
David Zelinsky wrote: I just did an 'apt-get dist-upgrade' from the lasted squeeze update, and failed to notice it had decided to install a stock kernel image: linux-image-2.6.32-5-686_2.6.32-48squeeze1. I did not want this, since I'm using a custom kernel, and I'm not sure the stock kernel will

Re: Refining the question - was [Re: Wanted: an internet free minimal Debian install]

2013-03-10 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 10 March 2013 14:04:12 Richard Owlett wrote: > How to define "minimal install"? ;/ [snip] Richard - had you thought of the Debian Business Card installer? Even smaller and nearer to minimal than the netinstall CD. And there is a nice howto: http://www.debiantutorials.org/talkitup/

cannot uninstall linux-image-2.6.32-5-686

2013-03-10 Thread David Zelinsky
I just did an 'apt-get dist-upgrade' from the lasted squeeze update, and failed to notice it had decided to install a stock kernel image: linux-image-2.6.32-5-686_2.6.32-48squeeze1. I did not want this, since I'm using a custom kernel, and I'm not sure the stock kernel will even work. Worse, the

Re: A question about how to ask a question

2013-03-10 Thread Rob Owens
On Sat, Mar 09, 2013 at 08:51:47PM +0100, Olivier Cailloux wrote: > Hi list, > > My question is about... how to best ask a question! That is because > I have the feeling I am not asking it in the best possible way. > I am very little time these days, so short questions are simply more attractive

Re: choosing a web browser

2013-03-10 Thread Rob Owens
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 12:03:53PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > I need a "sane" webbrowser. > > Firstly, I'm not interested in rolling releases. In my experience, > Firefox 3.6 was the pinnacle in browsers, in the days when Epiphany > was also a fine option. Things appear to have gone downhill

Re: choosing a web browser

2013-03-10 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 3/11/13, Karl E. wrote: > On 10/03/13 01:03:53, Zenaan Harkness wrote: >> I need a "sane" webbrowser. >> ... >> * Epiphany >> Epiphany. How I loved epiphany back in the days of Gnome 2 and >> Firefox >> 3.5, when I took a walk on the wild side of Ubuntu, and settled in on >> Ubuntu 8.04. >> Fir

Re: Refining the question - was [Re: Wanted: an internet free minimal Debian install]

2013-03-10 Thread Rob Owens
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 09:04:12AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > The next next issue is CPU and memory. My home machines are GHz dual > core with GBytes of ram etc. However there are donated machines at > church that I wish to migrate from OSes as old as Win95. I know I'll > have to deal with 486

Re: choosing a web browser

2013-03-10 Thread Karl E.
Hi On 10/03/13 01:03:53, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > I need a "sane" webbrowser. > > ... > > What I've tried: > ... > * Epiphany > Epiphany. How I loved epiphany back in the days of Gnome 2 and > Firefox > 3.5, when I took a walk on the wild side of Ubuntu, and settled in on > Ubuntu 8.04. > Firef

Refining the question - was [Re: Wanted: an internet free minimal Debian install]

2013-03-10 Thread Richard Owlett
Thank you for the replies received. They made clear that I had not adequately separated background information, physical constraints, preferences, and ideas on what solution should look like [for want of better term - the aesthetics of the solution]. I will take my cue from Brian's reply whic

Re: Wanted: an internet free minimal Debian install

2013-03-10 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: >> >> AFAIK Debian CD#1 is the smallest fully standalone install supported. >> But at the time that you are committed to booting from cdrom then >> might as well commit to a fully populated cdrom. In for a penny, in >> for a pou

Re: Installer not reading preseed.cfg

2013-03-10 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 6:25 PM, keshav prabhakar wrote: > > d-i mirror/country string manual > d-i mirror/suite string stable > > yes, those two lines did the magic! Thanks. > It started reading from the local server but...now, it's stopping next at > this error: > >No root file system > No ro

Re: Installer not reading preseed.cfg

2013-03-10 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 8:20 AM, Brian wrote: > On Fri 08 Mar 2013 at 22:22:25 -0500, Tom H wrote: >> On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 8:30 PM, Brian wrote: >>> On Fri 08 Mar 2013 at 19:04:41 -0600, keshav prabhakar wrote: netcfg/wireless_wep string#d-i mirror/country string USd-i >>> >>> The first p

Re: Installer not reading preseed.cfg

2013-03-10 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 7:54 AM, keshav prabhakar wrote: > > oh wow! Frankly, this is the best, most detailed response I have ever gotten > on any list so far. :) > but seriously, I can't thank enough for your time and interest. really > appreciate it. > I didn't pay much attention to my preseed.cf

Re: choosing a web browser

2013-03-10 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 11:44 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote: > the seamonkey package may be what you're looking for. It combines firefox > with thunderbird in a single package and uses less system resources. It > also doesn't update constantly either. Technically, it does not combine them; rather FF a

Re: Wanted: an internet free minimal Debian install

2013-03-10 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: >> Richard Owlett wrote: >> > Installation iso on a CD or flash drive as desired. ( target iso >> > size is ~100MB, smaller if possible) >> >> AFAIK Debian CD#1 is the smallest fully standalone install supported. >> But at the

RE: Debian-goodies package error

2013-03-10 Thread Bonno Bloksma
Hi Dom, >> The "No space left on drive" is the wrong symptom, there is plenty of space >> on all partitions. >> >> # df >> Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on >> /dev/mapper/linbobo-root >> 2064208 2064208 0 100% / > > Is not that l

Re: choosing a web browser

2013-03-10 Thread Zenaan Harkness
> try seamonkey (mozilla-branch) i use it to my needs (browsing and mailing) > for years without any trouble. Thanks guys, I forgot about seamonkey. Found iceape. Will give it a try. Very much appreciate the pointer/reminder, Zenaan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debia

Re: Debian-goodies package error

2013-03-10 Thread Dom
On 10/03/13 08:47, Bonno Bloksma wrote: Hi, Today I've run `apt-get update` and `apt-get upgrade` to get security fixes. It updated libc6 and some other essential packages. Should I reboot my production Web server? If yes, how often? If you install the debian-goodies package, you can run c

Debian-goodies package error (was: RE: How often to reboot a production Web server?)

2013-03-10 Thread Bonno Bloksma
Hi, >> Today I've run `apt-get update` and `apt-get upgrade` to get security fixes. >> >> It updated libc6 and some other essential packages. >> >> Should I reboot my production Web server? If yes, how often? >> > > If you install the debian-goodies package, you can run checkrestart to see > wh

Re: choosing a web browser

2013-03-10 Thread steef
Zenaan Harkness schreef: I need a "sane" webbrowser. Firstly, I'm not interested in rolling releases. In my experience, Firefox 3.6 was the pinnacle in browsers, in the days when Epiphany was also a fine option. Things appear to have gone downhill bigtime since then, as far as I can tell. Seeki