Re: how many users is enough?

2012-11-29 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 11/30/12, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > I would describe the relationship between Ubuntu and Debian like this: > > Without Debian there would be no successful Ubuntu, but without Ubuntu > there still would be a successful Debian. This is true, Debian being what it is, a community based, largely volunt

Re: how many users is enough?

2012-11-29 Thread Ralf Mardorf
I would describe the relationship between Ubuntu and Debian like this: Without Debian there would be no successful Ubuntu, but without Ubuntu there still would be a successful Debian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Con

Re: Boot loaders for Linux that can also boot FreeBSD

2012-11-29 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Thank you all, I'll report back ASAP. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1354233984.3059.74.camel@q

Re: how many users is enough?

2012-11-29 Thread Miles Fidelman
Slavko wrote: I did search and i found the source, here it is: http://raphaelhertzog.com/2010/11/22/how-ubuntu-builds-up-on-debian/ Thanks for the pointer, I just went and read it. It's a pretty good and informative read. So are the comments. Still timely and worth reading. Miles -- In t

legacy-bootordering in Wheezy?

2012-11-29 Thread Rob van der Putten
Hi Does wheezy support /etc/init.d/.legacy-bootordering? When Upgrading from Lenny to Squeeze I run into trouble because NFS wanted to mount before Bind was running. legacy-bootordering fixed this for me. I also use legacy-bootordering on my GUI box: I use /etc/rc.local to start inputattach

Re: how many users is enough?

2012-11-29 Thread Slavko
Hi, Dňa Wed, 28 Nov 2012 17:35:07 + Jon Dowland napísal: > Slavko phrased it as 'Ubuntu leaves 93 % of packages untouched', which > does not imply that packages only existing in Ubuntu and not Debian > are considered in that 7%. I want no flame, i want point that compare the Ubuntu and Debi

Re: Help - My apologies

2012-11-29 Thread Ethan Rosenberg, PhD
Dear list - My messages were bouncing, and Hostway  thought that it was from your  end. I thought, mistakenly, that was the format to get a feedback on list list operations. I NEVER intentionally send spam.  Both you and I are way to busy for that.

Re: User group in SW Missouri?

2012-11-29 Thread Richard Owlett
Russell L. Harris wrote: * Richard Owlett [121129 13:21]: Russell L. Harris wrote: Check with local colleges. Snicker ;/ What are you saying? It was an editorial comment based past experience of a member of the public getting any useful information out of the two most prominent local t

Re: a question about firewalls (or whatever else that might cause packet drop)

2012-11-29 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Matej Kosik a écrit : >>> I am experiencing some deterministic packet drop: >>> - when I tcpreplay on "lo" some pcap (0.pcap) file, >>> that traffic does not reach listening applications > > I have discovered the following regularity: > - if source IP address in given pcap is one of "my" IP addr

Re: Printer brand recommendations

2012-11-29 Thread Russell L. Harris
* Tyler D [121129 19:30]: > On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Anthony Campbell > wrote: > > On 26 Nov 2012, Curt Howland wrote: ... > At least for my specific printer, Brother has put out Linux drivers... Recently I picked up a "close-out" special -- a Brother laser printer with Brother's Posts

Re: User group in SW Missouri?

2012-11-29 Thread Russell L. Harris
* Richard Owlett [121129 13:21]: > Russell L. Harris wrote: > >Check with local colleges. > > Snicker ;/ What are you saying? Even if you are in a rural area, is there not a college (or "community college") within easy driving distance? Even a drive of, say, fifty miles each way, is not unre

Re: PNG borked

2012-11-29 Thread S Scharf
The thumbnail files are generated, but they are entirely transparent png's with no image content. I am using both nautilus and thunar (under xcfe) On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Thu, 2012-11-29 at 10:23 -0500, S Scharf wrote: > > Lately on my Testing systems the PNG

Re: linux-vserver (or equvalent) in wheezy

2012-11-29 Thread Darren Baginski
08.06.2012, 17:41, "John A. Sullivan III" : > On Fri, 2012-06-08 at 09:40 +0100, Jon Dowland wrote: > >>  On Fri, Jun 08, 2012 at 12:58:16AM +0400, Darren Baginski wrote: >>>  Looks promising. Is there any infrastructure around yet?  I mean init >>> scripts >>>  for auto start , /etc/ files like

Re: Printer brand recommendations

2012-11-29 Thread Tyler D
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Anthony Campbell wrote: > On 26 Nov 2012, Curt Howland wrote: >> Hi. I have a HP inkjet printer, PSC2100 from 2003, which still works >> fine but something in Debian has changed. >> >> It used to print graphics and photographs very well. But a year or so >> ago g

Re: Boot loaders for Linux that can also boot FreeBSD

2012-11-29 Thread Weaver
On Thu, November 29, 2012 10:37 am, Tom H wrote: > On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 8:58 AM, Ralf Mardorf > wrote: >> >> I need a boot loader for Linux, that is comfortable to use for my needs, >> a Linux multi-boot with >> trillions of Linux installs, >> trillions ^ 2 kernels and >> (trillions ^ 2) * 102

Re: repost: xev on Thinkpad t61 ver. 6.0.4 squeeze

2012-11-29 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 22 Nov 2012 13:52:23 -0600 "B. T. Raven" wrote: > [tried linux.debian.user and now gmane.linux.debian.user] > > > I am not able to get xmodmap to work reliably on this laptop since xev > won't report the keycode on all the mod keys. Usually, one or the other > Ctrl keys generate a Focus

Re: Can Debian's paranoia be tamed

2012-11-29 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 23 Nov 2012 09:36:35 +0100 berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > > Display managers, and particularly window managers and desktop > > environments are > > often confounded. A window manager is a component of a desktop > > environment. D

Re: Boot loaders for Linux that can also boot FreeBSD

2012-11-29 Thread Tom H
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 8:58 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > I need a boot loader for Linux, that is comfortable to use for my needs, > a Linux multi-boot with > trillions of Linux installs, > trillions ^ 2 kernels and > (trillions ^ 2) * 1024 entries with different boot options, so something > as GRU

Re: Memory errors on new memory in new system

2012-11-29 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 11/28/2012 9:14 AM, Marc Shapiro wrote: > On 11/27/2012 11:09 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> On 11/27/2012 11:29 PM, Marc Shapiro wrote: >>> Gigabyte 970A-DS3 MB >>> 8GB (2x4GB) Patriot G3 RAM > The DIMMS are 1600. According to the BIOS the CPU Timing is at 200 and > the memory is at

Re: ASUS K55VJ sound and video install

2012-11-29 Thread Gábor Hársfalvi
The Audio card - Altec Lansing, SonicMaster Sound - and Nvidia Graphics card - Nvidia Geforce GT 635M 2GB Someone please help :( 2012/11/23 Gábor Hársfalvi > Hi, > > I succesfully installed Debian Squeeze x64 to a K55VJ Notebook, everything > works perfectly but I couldn't install Nvidia drive

Re: Boot loaders for Linux that can also boot FreeBSD

2012-11-29 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 5:58 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Hi :) > > my apologies for cross-posting this to several Linux mailing lists. > > I need a boot loader for Linux, that is comfortable to use for my needs, > a Linux multi-boot with > trillions of Linux installs, > trillions ^ 2 kernels and > (

Re: Kobo desktop (native)

2012-11-29 Thread Darac Marjal
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 01:43:57PM -0300, Beco wrote: > On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Beco wrote: > > (1) Native > > - > > PS. Errors: > > > > > > # dpkg -i kobo-desktop.deb > > (Reading database ... 308087 files and directories currently installed.) > > Preparing to replac

Re: Kobo desktop (3 attempts)

2012-11-29 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On Qui, 29 Nov 2012, Beco wrote: On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI I have a Kobo Touch, and I only used it once, to "register" the device. After that, it is completely unnecessary. So perhaps you don't need to worry so much about it. Hi Eduardo, Thats nice. But how do yo

Re: Kobo desktop (native)

2012-11-29 Thread Beco
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 12:02 PM, Beco wrote: > (1) Native > - > PS. Errors: > > > # dpkg -i kobo-desktop.deb > (Reading database ... 308087 files and directories currently installed.) > Preparing to replace kobo-desktop 2.1.3-1 (using kobo-desktop.deb) ... > Unpacking replacem

Re: Kobo desktop (3 attempts)

2012-11-29 Thread Beco
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > On Qui, 29 Nov 2012, Beco wrote: >> >> Hi guys, >> >> As I decided to buy a Kobo, now I'm having some trouble with its software. > > > I have a Kobo Touch, and I only used it once, to "register" the device. > After that, it is complet

Re: User group in SW Missouri?

2012-11-29 Thread Brad Alexander
Richard, I just talked to Russ Woodman (k5tux) who used to run the Springfield LUG. He is trying to start up a semi-online group. The website is at http://417oss.org. You could check that out... --b On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 8:12 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > Russell L. Harris wrote: >> >> * slick.

Re: PNG borked

2012-11-29 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2012-11-29 at 10:23 -0500, S Scharf wrote: > Lately on my Testing systems the PNG thumbnails are all showing up as > blank images. Anyone know what broke? I guess /usr/share/thumbnailers is not a place to check in this case. What file browser do you use? Nautilus/GNOME3? If there should be

Kobo and Blackberry desktop (virtualbox)

2012-11-29 Thread Beco
(3) Virtualbox - This is an attempt to run Kobo and Blackberry inside a virtual machine. The problem described here is for the Blackberry device, as I don't have the Kobo yet. I'm using it on the thread name to save this thread to next week, when I'll get my hands on Kobo and t

Kobo desktop (3 attempts)

2012-11-29 Thread Beco
Hi guys, As I decided to buy a Kobo, now I'm having some trouble with its software. I see 3 solutions: wine, virtualbox and a native app. I'll break this thread in three, so we can organize better. But also, if have some tip regarding all of them, this is thread is for you. Thanks! Kelly Clower

Kobo desktop (wine)

2012-11-29 Thread Beco
(2) Wine - This attempt is for installing #wine kobosetup.exe Wine installed kobosetup.exe ok, it works at least the minimal, but no connection to the net. It doesn't let me to sign in. It says: "Sorry! We can't seem to connect to the Webstore. Please check your network con

Kobo desktop (native)

2012-11-29 Thread Beco
(1) Native - This attempt is for installing the ".deb" package (non-official) found here. I found this guy, George Talusan, http://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=82378&page=14 a Kobo developer intern. He prepared a debian package. But I got some dependency proble

Re: User group in SW Missouri?

2012-11-29 Thread Richard Owlett
Russell L. Harris wrote: * slick.coo...@gmail.com [121129 05:00]: On Saturday, July 14, 2012 4:20:01 PM UTC-5, Richard Owlett wrote: Stan Hoeppner wrote: On 7/14/2012 9:39 AM, Chris wrote: From: "Richard Owlett" ... In my experience these gatherings serve mostly a social function, not a te

Re: Memory errors on new memory in new system

2012-11-29 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 23:38 -0800, Marc Shapiro wrote: > Do I really have bad memory? You are using the computer without issues, while your RAM is stressed. Did you run a RAM test that is not from a Debian distribution? You RAM could be bad, but it's not likely. As I've written several times. He

Re: User group in SW Missouri?

2012-11-29 Thread Richard Owlett
slick.coo...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] I just found and joined this *new* lug started by a Joe Swietzer in Stotts City. Counting me, there are now 2 members, but who knows? Maybe we will grow into a good group. I started getting serious about learning and using Linux in May of this year. I've e

Implementing Zimbra Collaborative Space on Debian 64 bit

2012-11-29 Thread Harshad Joshi
Has anybody implemented Zimbra Open source collaborative software on debian 6, 64 bit machine? If yes, please mail me..this mailing list replies are for some reasons not received on gmail.. -- Harshad Joshi

Re: Memory errors on new memory in new system

2012-11-29 Thread Gary Dale
On 29/11/12 02:38 AM, Marc Shapiro wrote: On 11/28/2012 09:24 AM, Gary Dale wrote: I'm afraid I can't really answer that. All I can do is repeat that when MemTest86+ reports an error, it is a good indication that you have a problem. I've seen this on systems where MemTest86+ reported only a fe

Re: "Abberant symptopm" or "bug worth attempting to duplicate"?

2012-11-29 Thread Richard Owlett
Karl E. Jorgensen wrote: Hi On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 09:25:12AM +, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Mi, 28 nov 12, 18:33:43, Richard Owlett wrote: 1st trial, 1st install, 1st try no swap, after "su & password" attempted "apt-get install gdm3 gedit gparted" result - massive crash The error me

Re: "Abberant symptopm" or "bug worth attempting to duplicate"?

2012-11-29 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 29 nov 12, 11:03:51, Karl E. Jorgensen wrote: > On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 09:25:12AM +, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > How much RAM does your test machine have? Assuming lack of memory is the > > problem apt-get might have been killed by the OOM killer and as far as I > > know this is lo

Re: "Abberant symptopm" or "bug worth attempting to duplicate"?

2012-11-29 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
Hi On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 09:25:12AM +, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Mi, 28 nov 12, 18:33:43, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > 1st trial, 1st install, 1st try > > no swap, after "su & password" attempted "apt-get install gdm3 > > gedit gparted" > > result - massive crash > > The error message

Re: Can not get fan control going in wheezy. Any help appreciated

2012-11-29 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 29 nov 12, 14:08:33, Tim Long wrote: > > I think that the problem is that the kernel can not figure out how to > control the fan. Is this the correct diagnosis or have I done a > misdiagnosis? In my google searches I found references to control > files like /sys/class/hwmon/hwmon0/device/fa

Re: "Abberant symptopm" or "bug worth attempting to duplicate"?

2012-11-29 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 28 nov 12, 18:33:43, Richard Owlett wrote: > > 1st trial, 1st install, 1st try > no swap, after "su & password" attempted "apt-get install gdm3 > gedit gparted" > result - massive crash The error messages would have been very useful. > as there had been warning message of strangeness p

Re: a question about firewalls (or whatever else that might cause packet drop)

2012-11-29 Thread Matej Kosik
On 11/28/2012 12:04 PM, Darac Marjal wrote: > On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 11:54:04AM +, Matej Kosik wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I am experiencing some deterministic packet drop: >> - when I tcpreplay on "lo" some pcap (0.pcap) file, >> that traffic does not reach listening applications >> - when I change

Re: a question about firewalls (or whatever else that might cause packet drop)

2012-11-29 Thread Matej Kosik
On 11/29/2012 12:21 AM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Hello, > > Matej Kosik a écrit : >> >> I am experiencing some deterministic packet drop: >> - when I tcpreplay on "lo" some pcap (0.pcap) file, >> that traffic does not reach listening applications >> - when I change source IP address from whateve

Re: Kobo or Kindle

2012-11-29 Thread Johann Spies
Previously I used my Nokia N900 to read ebooks but since I bought my Kindle Touch I was enjoying my reading a lot more. With Calibre I have no problems converting epubs to mobi format and sometimes I even have success converting pdf's to mobi format. Communication with the Kindle from Debian has

Re: which package has a binary like this sendmail one in exim?

2012-11-29 Thread Jon Dowland
Some interesting replies , many of which seem to have not read your message ;) On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 09:42:31AM -0900, Britton Kerin wrote: > I know exim sometimes contains a sendmail binary because on one system I > get this: > > britt...@brittonkerin.com [~]# sendmail --version > Exim ver

Re: which package has a binary like this sendmail one in exim?

2012-11-29 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 09:40:18PM +0100, Cosme Domínguez Díaz wrote: > El 28/11/12 19:42, Britton Kerin escribió: > >Does anyone know what debian package provides the /usr/bin/sendmail program ^^^ > >or its equivalent like on the first syst