Re: Advice on system purchase

2012-10-28 Thread David Christensen
On 10/28/12 19:07, Marc Shapiro wrote: I have run memtest86+ for over a day with no errors, or lockups. I have asked questions here. I have done web searches on various possibilities. The closest I could find to my situation is the graphics driver problem referred to by Johan in the thread "Debia

Re: Advice on system purchase

2012-10-28 Thread Mark Allums
On 10/28/2012 3:14 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Du, 28 oct 12, 06:32:45, Mark Allums wrote: My own opinion on i3 is that it;s a bit underpowered for a modern system, even a Linux system. If i7 seems like overkill to you, then the obvious compromise is i5, which is what i recommend to most non-

Re: Advice on system purchase

2012-10-28 Thread Marc Shapiro
On 10/28/2012 05:26 PM, David Christensen wrote: On 10/28/12 15:48, Marc Shapiro wrote: If not, then I might have lockups anyway. If it continues to lockup then I will retire the whole box. It sounds like you need to figure out why it is locking up. I have tried to do so. I have run memtest86

Re: obsolete df (file system disk space usage) values and NFS

2012-10-28 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2012-10-25 13:27:33 -0200, Pedro EugĂȘnio Rocha wrote: > Maybe the file was opened by another user? Did you check lsof? I didn't check with lsof, but did a "ls -la" to see whether there were .nfs* files (usually created after removing a file that is already open, and there wasn't any). I would

Re: Advice on system purchase

2012-10-28 Thread David Christensen
On 10/28/12 15:48, Marc Shapiro wrote: The question is not whether or not it can be used as a server. The question is whether the problem I have with lockups is caused by the graphics card, drivers, some other user software that is running, etc, or not. If so, then the system will run fine as a s

Modoarchive - Again

2012-10-28 Thread Ethan Rosenberg, PhD
Dear List - Any Ideas?? I am having problems w/ Mondoarchive. 1] For some unknown reason the system thinks that the hard drive is sda. Maybe, the file system was corrupted and I ran fsck with hard drive unmounted. 2] My com

Re: Is Wheezy going to be more stable than Squeeze?

2012-10-28 Thread Go Linux
--- On Sun, 10/28/12, Russell Gadd wrote: > From: Russell Gadd > Subject: Is Wheezy going to be more stable than Squeeze? > To: "Debian User" > Date: Sunday, October 28, 2012, 1:43 PM > Is Debian Wheezy going to be any > better than Squeeze when it's > released? I know this is a leading questio

Re: Is Wheezy going to be more stable than Squeeze?

2012-10-28 Thread Jochen Spieker
Russell Gadd: > > I can't remember many details, but one issue stands out in my memory. > When printing a second document to my HP Laserjet it would wait up to > 4 seconds before the GUI panel to initiate the print would complete. > This was reported as a bug but not solved at least for many weeks

Re: Advice on system purchase

2012-10-28 Thread David Christensen
On 10/28/12 13:40, Doug wrote: If you build a powerful machine with 8 cores, can't you make it a server, with two more terminals, so the wife and daughter can log in and work while you do? I don't know how to do that, but there must be some Unix maven here who cah=n tell you. http://www.ltsp.or

Re: Advice on system purchase

2012-10-28 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 10/28/2012 4:38 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Sb, 27 oct 12, 22:27:30, Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> >> Coming from a 2800+ which is a ~60 watt CPU, and given the fact you'll >> never make use of more than 2 of those 8 cores, I recommend a dual core >> AthlonII X2 @ 3.4GHz. I have the 3GHz model and

Re: Advice on system purchase

2012-10-28 Thread Marc Shapiro
On 10/28/2012 03:12 PM, David Christensen wrote: On 10/28/12 11:46, Marc Shapiro wrote: > Is there anything that speaks against keeping it? What is the make and model number of the 1 TB HDD? > ... there are three of us here. Myself, my wife and daughter. ... if the old box stays up as a server

Re: Advice on system purchase

2012-10-28 Thread David Christensen
On 10/28/12 11:46, Marc Shapiro wrote: > Is there anything that speaks against keeping it? What is the make and model number of the 1 TB HDD? > ... there are three of us here. Myself, my wife and daughter. ... if the old box stays up as a server. If it does not, then the 1 TB drive goes into

Re: compiling a Debian package

2012-10-28 Thread John Hasler
I wrote: > "apt-get build-dep" should establish the required environment. Andrei writes: > Assuming a pure Debian environment. As it turns out the OP does have > foreign libraries installed. I don't. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subj

Re: Is Wheezy going to be more stable than Squeeze?

2012-10-28 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 28 October 2012 18:43:14 Russell Gadd wrote: > Really I'm just looking for personal views not necessarily with any > particularly well-reasoned justification. My personal view? I love Debian and dislike Ubuntu. I loved KDE 3.x.x and strongly dislike KDE4. I run Squeeze and Trinity, b

Re: Advice on system purchase

2012-10-28 Thread David Christensen
On 10/28/12 04:54, Martin Steigerwald wrote: SSD might still be good bet. They are like switching from floppy disk to harddisk for me. +1 On 10/28/12 11:11, Mark Allums wrote: > The principle is sound, but the prices are 10x too much. Intel 520 series 60 GB SSD -- $91.93 http://www.amazon.

Re: Advice on system purchase

2012-10-28 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Mark Allums wrote: > > ext4 has been found to be dangerous right now in kernels 3.4, 3.5, and 3.6, > due to a data loss bug. They are working on the patch as we speak, of > course, but in the meantime, minimize the number of times you mount the ext4 > filesystem.

Re: Is Wheezy going to be more stable than Squeeze?

2012-10-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2012-10-28 at 23:19 +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Du, 28 oct 12, 18:43:14, Russell Gadd wrote: > > > > I'm just looking for a desktop PC OS which is a practical workhorse > > for everyday needs. Any mainstream modern Linux would probably suit in > > terms of facilities. Of course the c

Re: Is Wheezy going to be more stable than Squeeze?

2012-10-28 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 28 oct 12, 18:43:14, Russell Gadd wrote: > > I'm just looking for a desktop PC OS which is a practical workhorse > for everyday needs. Any mainstream modern Linux would probably suit in > terms of facilities. Of course the choice of desktop will be material > and comments on that will be we

Re: compiling a Debian package

2012-10-28 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 28 oct 12, 07:51:17, John Hasler wrote: > Andrei POPESCU writes: > > Yes, but only if you can prove it is not due to a problem in your > > build environment. You could post console output here. > > "apt-get build-dep" should establish the required environment. Assuming a pure Debian enviro

Re: Advice on system purchase

2012-10-28 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Marc Shapiro wrote: On 10/28/2012 01:40 PM, Doug wrote: On 10/28/2012 03:49 PM, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: /snip/ Marc Shapiro wrote: OI don't know if this makes a difference, but... While this is a home machine there are three of us here. Myself, my wife and daughter. We are all logged in all th

Re: Advice on system purchase

2012-10-28 Thread Marc Shapiro
On 10/28/2012 01:40 PM, Doug wrote: On 10/28/2012 03:49 PM, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: /snip/ Marc Shapiro wrote: OI don't know if this makes a difference, but... While this is a home machine there are three of us here. Myself, my wife and daughter. We are all logged in all the time and we are all

Re: Advice on system purchase

2012-10-28 Thread Marc Shapiro
On 10/28/2012 12:49 PM, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Marc Shapiro wrote: On 10/27/2012 08:27 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: On 10/27/2012 7:29 PM, Marc Shapiro wrote: I'm really getting annoyed by my random system lockups, so I have been looking at new motherboards, new systems, etc. ... I saw a Fry's a

Re: Advice on system purchase

2012-10-28 Thread Doug
On 10/28/2012 03:49 PM, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: /snip/ Marc Shapiro wrote: OI don't know if this makes a difference, but... While this is a home machine there are three of us here. Myself, my wife and daughter. We are all logged in all the time and we are all running separate X sessions all the

Re: Advice on system purchase

2012-10-28 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 28 oct 12, 06:32:45, Mark Allums wrote: > > My own opinion on i3 is that it;s a bit underpowered for a modern > system, even a Linux system. If i7 seems like overkill to you, then > the obvious compromise is i5, which is what i recommend to most > non-technical people. But yeah. Go Ivy b

Re: Advice on system purchase

2012-10-28 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Marc Shapiro wrote: On 10/27/2012 08:27 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: On 10/27/2012 7:29 PM, Marc Shapiro wrote: I'm really getting annoyed by my random system lockups, so I have been looking at new motherboards, new systems, etc. ... I saw a Fry's add for a motherboard, an AMD 8 Core CPU and memo

Re: ALSA website

2012-10-28 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2012-10-27 at 08:31 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > Checking for ALSA audio ... no You don't need the source code to compile another version of ALSA, you need the headers from the package libasound2-dev to compile mplayer. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: Is Wheezy going to be more stable than Squeeze?

2012-10-28 Thread Gary Dale
On 28/10/12 02:43 PM, Russell Gadd wrote: Is Debian Wheezy going to be any better than Squeeze when it's released? I know this is a leading question since many of you may think Squeeze couldn't be faulted. Better in what way I hear you ask. Well really my main focus is stability. My experience w

Re: Advice on system purchase

2012-10-28 Thread Marc Shapiro
On 10/27/2012 08:27 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: On 10/27/2012 7:29 PM, Marc Shapiro wrote: I'm really getting annoyed by my random system lockups, so I have been looking at new motherboards, new systems, etc. ... I saw a Fry's add for a motherboard, an AMD 8 Core CPU and memory for That's a 125

Re: Advice on system purchase

2012-10-28 Thread Mark Allums
On 10/28/2012 12:36 PM, David Christensen wrote: On 10/27/12 23:10, David Christensen wrote: > I finally settled on Wheezy OOTB as much as possible with LUKS, ext4, > and VirtualBox, Correction: And Intel HD 2000 graphics support, single head. On 10/28/12 04:32, Mark Allums wrote: I don't

Re: Log flooding: Oct 28 11:44:21 localhost kernel: [ 3348.008429] option: option_instat_callback: error -2

2012-10-28 Thread Jude DaShiell
On Sun, 28 Oct 2012, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: > Hi Folks, > > since some time my logs are flooded with the folowwing message: > > Oct 28 11:45:09 localhost kernel: [ 3395.992226] option: > option_instat_callback: error -2 > Oct 28 11:45:14 localhost kernel: [ 3401.009057] option: > option_insta

Re: Advice on system purchase

2012-10-28 Thread David Christensen
On 10/27/12 23:10, David Christensen wrote: > I finally settled on Wheezy OOTB as much as possible with LUKS, ext4, > and VirtualBox, Correction: And Intel HD 2000 graphics support, single head. On 10/28/12 04:32, Mark Allums wrote: I don't bother with SSDs on Linux machines for personal use.

Re: compiling a Debian package

2012-10-28 Thread John Hasler
lee writes: > Do you have packages from dmo installed? No. I have no need for them. I just compiled dvbcut to check out the bug. I've already deleted it. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listm

Re: compiling a Debian package

2012-10-28 Thread lee
John Hasler writes: > lee writes: >> is it a bug that should be reported when a source package doesn't >> compile? > > Yes. > >> And how come that there is a binary package though it cannot be >> compiled? > > It compiled on the developer's machine and on the buildds. Most likely > one or more o

Re: Log flooding: Oct 28 11:44:21 localhost kernel: [ 3348.008429] option: option_instat_callback: error -2

2012-10-28 Thread Mark Allums
On 10/28/2012 5:49 AM, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: Hi Folks, since some time my logs are flooded with the folowwing message: Oct 28 11:45:09 localhost kernel: [ 3395.992226] option: option_instat_callback: error -2 Oct 28 11:45:14 localhost kernel: [ 3401.009057] option: option_instat_callback: erro

Log flooding: Oct 28 11:44:21 localhost kernel: [ 3348.008429] option: option_instat_callback: error -2

2012-10-28 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Hi Folks, since some time my logs are flooded with the folowwing message: Oct 28 11:45:09 localhost kernel: [ 3395.992226] option: option_instat_callback: error -2 Oct 28 11:45:14 localhost kernel: [ 3401.009057] option: option_instat_callback: error -2 Oct 28 11:45:19 localhost kernel: [ 3406

Re: Advice on system purchase

2012-10-28 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 28/10/12 11:39, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 28 October 2012 09:38:58 Andrei POPESCU wrote: >> On Sb, 27 oct 12, 22:27:30, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > [snip] >> Andrei >> P.S. your hardware prices make me drool. Here we have higher numbers and >> in EUR for the same stuff :( > > You needn't rub it

Re: compiling a Debian package

2012-10-28 Thread John Hasler
lee writes: > is it a bug that should be reported when a source package doesn't > compile? Yes. > And how come that there is a binary package though it cannot be > compiled? It compiled on the developer's machine and on the buildds. Most likely one or more of the dependencies is not sufficientl

Re: compiling a Debian package

2012-10-28 Thread John Hasler
Andrei POPESCU writes: > Yes, but only if you can prove it is not due to a problem in your > build environment. You could post console output here. "apt-get build-dep" should establish the required environment. > Debian packages are built in controlled minimal environments that may > be very diff

Re: Advice on system purchase

2012-10-28 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Sonntag, 28. Oktober 2012 schrieb Marc Shapiro: > My main worry is the hard drive. I currently have what I think is its > older cousin, a 1 TB SATA II drive. It works perfectly and I have > always liked Seagate drives. I know that there are people out there > who have had trouble with Seag

Re: Advice on system purchase

2012-10-28 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Sonntag, 28. Oktober 2012 schrieb Mark Allums: > On 10/28/2012 4:38 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Sb, 27 oct 12, 22:27:30, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > >> Coming from a 2800+ which is a ~60 watt CPU, and given the fact > >> you'll never make use of more than 2 of those 8 cores, I recommend > >> a d

Re: Advice on system purchase

2012-10-28 Thread Mark Allums
On 10/28/2012 4:38 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Sb, 27 oct 12, 22:27:30, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Coming from a 2800+ which is a ~60 watt CPU, and given the fact you'll never make use of more than 2 of those 8 cores, I recommend a dual core AthlonII X2 @ 3.4GHz. I have the 3GHz model and the 2nd c

Re: Advice on system purchase

2012-10-28 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 28 October 2012 09:38:58 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Sb, 27 oct 12, 22:27:30, Stan Hoeppner wrote: [snip] > Andrei > P.S. your hardware prices make me drool. Here we have higher numbers and > in EUR for the same stuff :( You needn't rub it in!! You at least still pay in Euros. We pay bi

Re: compiling a Debian package

2012-10-28 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 28 oct 12, 11:44:57, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > Yes, but only if you can prove it is not due to a problem in your build > environment. You could post console output here. I meant "more". For example the output of the 'configure' step could be useful. Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic dis

Re: compiling a Debian package

2012-10-28 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 28 oct 12, 05:18:14, lee wrote: > Hi, > > is it a bug that should be reported when a source package doesn't > compile? Yes, but only if you can prove it is not due to a problem in your build environment. You could post console output here. > And how come that there is a binary package th

Re: Advice on system purchase

2012-10-28 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 27 oct 12, 22:27:30, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > > Coming from a 2800+ which is a ~60 watt CPU, and given the fact you'll > never make use of more than 2 of those 8 cores, I recommend a dual core > AthlonII X2 @ 3.4GHz. I have the 3GHz model and the 2nd core is pretty > much always idle, with p

Re: Login music in console

2012-10-28 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 27 oct 12, 09:55:44, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > > But the problem with using that is that you are stuck with the > volume that the mixer is set at. There ought to be a way to check > those settings, adjust for loudness, play the sound, and reset back > to what the settings were. ;-) That's n