Re: Debian Lenny support?

2011-11-15 Thread Raf Czlonka
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 06:31:06AM GMT, Brent Clark wrote: > Hiya > > Does anyone know when support for Debian Lenny will come to an end? > Has there been notice on Debian Announce? Support for old-stable usually ends a year after the now stable has been released (Feb 2011) so it'll probably be

Re: GNOME3 Ugh! Reverted to XFCE4

2011-11-15 Thread Erwan David
On 16/11/2011 07:13, George wrote: On 11/15/11, Harry Putnam wrote: Might I suggest "awesome" window manager? It uses almost no resources, can be manipulated entirely with the keyboard (although it also has complete mouse support), can be customized extremely easily (although the defaults are

Re: GNOME 3 Alt-Tab takes two hands now?

2011-11-15 Thread Paul Scott
On 11/14/2011 09:33 AM, Camaleón wrote: On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 19:38:03 -0800, Kevin Ross wrote: If you have two windows open for the same application, the Alt-Tab popup combines them into a single icon. To switch between windows of the same application, you have to hit the down arrow while the p

Re: GNOME3 Ugh! Reverted to XFCE4

2011-11-15 Thread George
On 11/15/11, Victor Nitu wrote: > On 11/15/2011 08:42 AM, George wrote: >> Might I suggest "awesome" window manager? It uses almost no resources, >> can be manipulated entirely with the keyboard (although it also has >> complete mouse support), can be customized extremely easily (although >> the

Re: GNOME3 Ugh! Reverted to XFCE4

2011-11-15 Thread George
On 11/15/11, Harry Putnam wrote: >> Might I suggest "awesome" window manager? It uses almost no resources, >> can be manipulated entirely with the keyboard (although it also has >> complete mouse support), can be customized extremely easily (although >> the defaults are sane so it is by no means

Debian Lenny support?

2011-11-15 Thread Brent Clark
Hiya Does anyone know when support for Debian Lenny will come to an end? Has there been notice on Debian Announce? Kind Regards Brent Clark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Re: GUI for mic testing ?

2011-11-15 Thread J. Bakshi
On Wed, 16 Nov 2011 08:54:26 +0200 Johann Spies wrote: > On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 07:50:21AM +0200, J. Bakshi wrote: > > Dear list, > > > > Any small GUI tool for mic testing ? > > audacity (but it is not small). yes , it is an elephant fir just testing mic > gnome-sound-recorder mine is a g

Re: GUI for mic testing ?

2011-11-15 Thread Johann Spies
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 07:50:21AM +0200, J. Bakshi wrote: > Dear list, > > Any small GUI tool for mic testing ? audacity (but it is not small). gnome-sound-recorder Regards Johann -- Johann SpiesTelefoon: 021-808 4699 Databestuurder / Data manager Sentrum vir Na

GUI for mic testing ?

2011-11-15 Thread J. Bakshi
Dear list, Any small GUI tool for mic testing ? Mine is Icewm with alsamixer gtk. But can't check the mic; no visual. Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.deb

Postfix with authenticated SMTP my ISP

2011-11-15 Thread cosme
Hello I do not quite get my postfix mails sent to my ISP MDaemon uses ... These are the logs cronos.abc.co.cu relay = [192.168.1.1]: 25, delay = 0.12, delays = 0.04/0/0.08/0, dsn = 5.0.0, status = bounced (host cronos.abc.co.cu [192.168.1.1] said: 530 Authentication? N required (in reply to MAIL

Re: How to get an IP address

2011-11-15 Thread Bob Proulx
T o n g wrote: > Bob Proulx wrote: > >> . . . how to get *only* the IP address of my current > >> Intranet address 192.168...? > > Thanks for your answer Bob, > > > Or if you don't like loopback addresses showing up in the list: > > > > $ ip addr show | awk '/ inet / && !/127\./{print$2}' >

sources.list best practices

2011-11-15 Thread Brad Alexander
Hey all, I've been doing the same thing the same way, but I would be interested to hear what others are doing and the pros and cons of the various approaches. Traditionally, I have replaced /etc/apt/sources.list with a universal one that includes stanzas for stable, testing, unstable, and in some

Re: How to get an IP address

2011-11-15 Thread Bob Proulx
T o n g wrote: > Now a related question, how to get *only* the IP address of my > current Intranet address 192.168...? > > Is there easier answers than analysing results from the following? > > ifconfig eth0 > ip addr > ip -f inet addr Please remember that hosts have devices and devices have

Re: checkrestart and dovecot

2011-11-15 Thread Bob Proulx
Andrew McGlashan wrote: > >>These processes do not seem to have an associated init script to > >>restart them: > >>dovecot-imapd: > >> 18981 /usr/lib/dovecot/imap > >> 14795 /usr/lib/dovecot/imap > > Yes, but I've stopped and restarted dovecot. New processes *later* > come up a

Default applications in Gnome 3 not respected

2011-11-15 Thread Steven
Hi list, I'm running wheezy here. Despite seeing all the negative messages about Gnome 3, I decided to upgrade anyway, now that the nvidia drivers have been updated for x 1.11. I have a few problem I'm still trying to solve (dual monitor and keyboard layout in gdm3 being the other on top of my lis

Re: iceweasel 8.0 www.bsi.de triggers "The connection was reset"

2011-11-15 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
I finally remembered to take a look into the error console of iceweasel after trying to load http://www.bsi.de and found the following information: www.bsi.bund.de : server does not support RFC 5746, see CVE-2009-3555 There seems to be a server side problem with the https protocol. -- Best regar

Re: What's DE-specific, what's independent?

2011-11-15 Thread Erwan David
On 15/11/2011 18:58, Claudius Hubig wrote: "Dan B." wrote: For the various things that get installed for Gnome, KDE, etc., which are specific to the chosen desktop environment, and which work with any desktop environment (or perhaps any sufficiently capable DE (e.g., FreeDesktop-compliant))? W

Re: What's DE-specific, what's independent? (was: Re: KDE package manager)

2011-11-15 Thread Claudius Hubig
"Dan B." wrote: >For the various things that get installed for Gnome, KDE, etc., >which are specific to the chosen desktop environment, and which >work with any desktop environment (or perhaps any sufficiently >capable DE (e.g., FreeDesktop-compliant))? > >When a DE includes a (default) audio play

Re: [SOLVED] Re: My post mail server is used for spam

2011-11-15 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 11/15/2011 10:07 AM, Olivier BATARD wrote: >> mynetworks = !192.168.150.254 192.168.150.0/24 >> >> The "!" excludes the address. > > Thanks that solve my problem You're welcome. Due to the NAT source address rewrite problem, the previous mynetworks configuration made Postfix a wide open rela

Re: Skype - how to get the microphone test

2011-11-15 Thread Sian Mountbatten
Brian writes: > On Tue 15 Nov 2011 at 16:15:06 +, Sian Mountbatten wrote: > >> There is a way of testing one's microphone using Skype. Unfortunately, >> I accidentally deleted it from amongst my contacts. > > echo123 Many thanks for your prompt reply. -- Dr S Mountbatten -- To UNSUBSCRIBE

Sound wheezy/KDE -- testing the microphone

2011-11-15 Thread Sian Mountbatten
Hello! I am having trouble with a microphone plugged into my soundcard. According to Kmix, the Playback Devices are set to about 55%, the Capture Devices are set to 100% and both playback and capture are shown as not muted. speaker-test shows that the right speaker is working, but not the left. Th

Re: "capturing" console resolution from auto-detection for when KVM switched away?

2011-11-15 Thread Brian
On Tue 15 Nov 2011 at 11:03:33 -0500, Dan B. wrote: > What tools (commands) are there in console-data or console-tools or > whatever for getting (and changing) the console video settings? dpkg-reconfigure console-setup -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a su

Re: Skype - how to get the microphone test

2011-11-15 Thread Brian
On Tue 15 Nov 2011 at 16:15:06 +, Sian Mountbatten wrote: > There is a way of testing one's microphone using Skype. Unfortunately, > I accidentally deleted it from amongst my contacts. echo123 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe"

What's DE-specific, what's independent? (was: Re: KDE package manager)

2011-11-15 Thread Dan B.
Sian Mountbatten wrote: Doug writes: On 11/09/2011 03:33 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Jo, 03 nov 11, 10:59:43, Ken Heard wrote: Sian Mountbatten wrote, in part: Is there a KDE package manager available? For the various things that get installed for Gnome, KDE, etc., which are specific to

Skype - how to get the microphone test

2011-11-15 Thread Sian Mountbatten
There is a way of testing one's microphone using Skype. Unfortunately, I accidentally deleted it from amongst my contacts. Does anybody know how to get it back? My microphone does not appear to be working on wheezy/KDE. -- Dr S Mountbatten -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.

Re: Why can't why have both GNOME 2 and GNOME 3?

2011-11-15 Thread Lorenzo Bandieri
> You can make Gnome3-shell look as near as damn it like gnome2-shell That's good news :) > The only thing I haven't been able to do with 3 that i could do with 2 is > right click > on an app in the drop down menu to put a short cut of the app either on the > desktop or the panel. > And I haven

Re: Why can't why have both GNOME 2 and GNOME 3?

2011-11-15 Thread Lorenzo Bandieri
> You have therefore missed the posts about it on this very list.  Many > people do now use it, and support is growing.  The most recent > version, 3.10.13, was released a few days ago.  (KDE3 ended at > 3.5.10.)  TDE It is unlikely ever to rival KDE4 or GNOME3, but the > option is valuable and is

Re: checkrestart and dovecot

2011-11-15 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Hi, On 15/11/2011 7:31 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: Andrew McGlashan wrote: # checkrestart Found 2 processes using old versions of upgraded files (1 distinct program) (1 distinct packages) These processes do not seem to have an associated init script to restart them: dovecot-imapd: 18981 /u

Re: Getting mail using gnus

2011-11-15 Thread Sian Mountbatten
Sian Mountbatten writes: > Memnon Anon writes: > >> Sian Mountbatten writes: >> >>> When I issue the command M-x gnus in Emacs, some messages flash >>> by in the echo area, but I do not get any mail. >> >> Have a look at your message buffer: *Messages* > No joy there. Solved the problem by us

Re: update-flashplugin-nonfree issue

2011-11-15 Thread Dan B.
J. Bakshi wrote: Dear list, I have run "update-flashplugin-nonfree --install" and it downloads the latest plugin at /var/cache/flashplugin-nonfree/install_flash_player_11_linux.x86_64.tar.gz after uncompromising it I get .. Once something has been compromised by the taint of being commercial

[SOLVED] Re: My post mail server is used for spam

2011-11-15 Thread Olivier BATARD
2011/11/15 Stan Hoeppner : > On 11/15/2011 5:44 AM, Olivier BATARD wrote: >> Thanks for the answer, when I run a grep -e "connect from" on the >> syslog I got this : >> >> Nov 15 12:32:47 VOLTALIAMSG postfix/smtpd[31110]: disconnect from >> unknown[192.168.150.254] >> Nov 15 12:32:49 VOLTALIAMSG po

Re: iceweasel 8.0 www.bsi.de triggers "The connection was reset"

2011-11-15 Thread Weaver
On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 16:08:38 +0100 Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote: > Hello Hugo, > > thank you for your investigation. Meanwhile I also tried to load > http://www.bsi.de with iceweasel 7.0 with the same result. > And also "wget" is unable to download the web-page. > > wget -d https://www.bsi.de > >

Re: "capturing" console resolution from auto-detection for when KVM switched away?

2011-11-15 Thread Dan B.
Brian wrote: On Mon 14 Nov 2011 at 21:48:05 -0500, Dan B. wrote: When I boot with my monitor connected (through a KVM), I end up with high-resolution virtual consoles (67 rows by 240 columns). However, when I boot with the KVM switched away, then since the kernel/etc. can't auto-detect my moni

Re: Why can't why have both GNOME 2 and GNOME 3?

2011-11-15 Thread Richard
On Tue, 15 Nov 2011 16:40:58 +0100 Lorenzo Bandieri wrote: > >> Why weren't the new gnome packages named with a "3" in their name, to allow > >> both gnome 2 and gnome 3 to exist in the repositories, and allow the user > >> to > >> choose which one they want? After all, we had apache and apache2

Re: Why can't why have both GNOME 2 and GNOME 3?

2011-11-15 Thread Lorenzo Bandieri
>> Why weren't the new gnome packages named with a "3" in their name, to allow >> both gnome 2 and gnome 3 to exist in the repositories, and allow the user to >> choose which one they want? After all, we had apache and apache2, php4 and >> php5, mysql4 and mysql5, etc, etc. >> >> I'm not saying the

Re: iceweasel 8.0 www.bsi.de triggers "The connection was reset"

2011-11-15 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
Hello Hugo, thank you for your investigation. Meanwhile I also tried to load http://www.bsi.de with iceweasel 7.0 with the same result. And also "wget" is unable to download the web-page. wget -d https://www.bsi.de results in "GnuTLS: A TLS fatal alert has been received." among others. -- Bes

Re: GNOME3 Ugh! Reverted to XFCE4

2011-11-15 Thread Jochen Spieker
Victor Nitu: > On 11/15/2011 08:42 AM, George wrote: > >> Might I suggest "awesome" window manager? It uses almost no resources, >> can be manipulated entirely with the keyboard (although it also has >> complete mouse support), can be customized extremely easily (although >> the defaults are sane s

Re: KVM networking.

2011-11-15 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, Chris: >Personally, I'd rather run up a bridge and use the libvirt tools to run >my VM for me (avoids giving root rights to a user, but allows the guest >to run with the necessary root network privs). Libvirt is a new thing to me. Do You suggest the bin package

Re: KVM networking.

2011-11-15 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, Arno: >> >Just remember to leave eth0 unconfigured... >> >> Then how do host's app.s will get to Internet? > >Through the bridge. I can't tell what's missing until you show us your >bridge configuration, if you have any. I'll show my config for >comparison: OK

Re: GNOME3 Ugh! Reverted to XFCE4

2011-11-15 Thread Victor Nitu
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/15/2011 08:42 AM, George wrote: > Might I suggest "awesome" window manager? It uses almost no resources, > can be manipulated entirely with the keyboard (although it also has > complete mouse support), can be customized extremely easily (although

Re: How to get an IP address

2011-11-15 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 5:02 AM, Chris Davies wrote: >> On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 11:44 AM, T o n g wrote: > Tom H wrote: >>> >>> I know how to get an IP address *info* using dig, but has anyone looked >>> into how to get *only* the IP address? so that I can use, eg. >>> >>>  the_ip=`get_ip host`

Re: Why can't why have both GNOME 2 and GNOME 3?

2011-11-15 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 3:27 AM, Kevin Ross wrote: > > Why weren't the new gnome packages named with a "3" in their name, to allow > both gnome 2 and gnome 3 to exist in the repositories, and allow the user to > choose which one they want? After all, we had apache and apache2, php4 and > php5, mys

Re: My post mail server is used for spam

2011-11-15 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 11/15/2011 5:44 AM, Olivier BATARD wrote: > Thanks for the answer, when I run a grep -e "connect from" on the > syslog I got this : > > Nov 15 12:32:47 VOLTALIAMSG postfix/smtpd[31110]: disconnect from > unknown[192.168.150.254] > Nov 15 12:32:49 VOLTALIAMSG postfix/smtpd[31102]: connect from >

Re: UCARP Behind NAT

2011-11-15 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 11/14/2011 6:09 PM, Chris Snyder wrote: > I'm guessing, after a bit more research, that what is happening is the > router is keeping an ARP cache. It looks to be set at around 5 > minutes. > > I was under the impression that UCARP used a virtual MAC address, but > that doesn't seem to be the c

Re: My post mail server is used for spam

2011-11-15 Thread Olivier BATARD
Thanks for the answer, when I run a grep -e "connect from" on the syslog I got this : Nov 15 12:32:47 VOLTALIAMSG postfix/smtpd[31110]: disconnect from unknown[192.168.150.254] Nov 15 12:32:49 VOLTALIAMSG postfix/smtpd[31102]: connect from unknown[192.168.150.254] Nov 15 12:32:53 VOLTALIAMSG postf

Re: GNOME3 Ugh! Reverted to XFCE4

2011-11-15 Thread Harry Putnam
George writes: > Might I suggest "awesome" window manager? It uses almost no resources, > can be manipulated entirely with the keyboard (although it also has > complete mouse support), can be customized extremely easily (although > the defaults are sane so it is by no means necessary to customize

Re: why does apt-mirror's service always running even after scheduled

2011-11-15 Thread Raf Czlonka
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 03:53:53AM GMT, Umarzuki Mochlis wrote: > Hi, > > On Squeeze AMD64, apt-mirror seems to always run even after configured with > below config in crontab > > # crontab -l apt-mirror comes with it's own cron entry - no need to set your own. > # m h dom mon dow command >

Re: How to get an IP address

2011-11-15 Thread Bob Proulx
Chris Davies wrote: > Fails for CNAME chains, sorry! > > $ dig +short www.bbc.co.uk > www.bbc.net.uk. > 212.58.246.94 > > (You could try dig +short ... | grep -v '\.$', but I've not tested that > exhaustively.) You might use the bind9-host 'host' command. $ host www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk

Re: How to get an IP address

2011-11-15 Thread Chris Davies
> On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 11:44 AM, T o n g wrote: >> I know how to get an IP address *info* using dig, but has anyone looked >> into how to get *only* the IP address? so that I can use, eg. >> >>  the_ip=`get_ip host` Tom H wrote: > dig +short ... Fails for CNAME chains, sorry! $ dig +short w

Re: "capturing" console resolution from auto-detection for when KVM switched away?

2011-11-15 Thread Brian
On Mon 14 Nov 2011 at 21:48:05 -0500, Dan B. wrote: > When I boot with my monitor connected (through a KVM), I end up with > high-resolution virtual consoles (67 rows by 240 columns). > > However, when I boot with the KVM switched away, then since the > kernel/etc. can't auto-detect my monitor, I

Re: My post mail server is used for spam

2011-11-15 Thread Kevin Ross
On 11/15/2011 01:20 AM, Kevin Ross wrote: On 11/15/2011 12:41 AM, Olivier BATARD wrote: HI, I'm a little in double because my postfix server is used to send an huge amount of spam, generating huge logs like that : postfix/error[2120]: 993AE145D: to=, relay=none, delay=101, delays=100/0.07/0/0

Re: My post mail server is used for spam

2011-11-15 Thread Kevin Ross
On 11/15/2011 12:41 AM, Olivier BATARD wrote: HI, I'm a little in double because my postfix server is used to send an huge amount of spam, generating huge logs like that : postfix/error[2120]: 993AE145D: to=, relay=none, delay=101, delays=100/0.07/0/0.31, dsn=4.7.0, status=deferred (delivery t

My post mail server is used for spam

2011-11-15 Thread Olivier BATARD
HI, I'm a little in double because my postfix server is used to send an huge amount of spam, generating huge logs like that : postfix/error[2120]: 993AE145D: to=, relay=none, delay=101, delays=100/0.07/0/0.31, dsn=4.7.0, status=deferred (delivery temporarily suspended: host mx1.mail.tw.yahoo.com

Re: checkrestart and dovecot

2011-11-15 Thread Bob Proulx
Andrew McGlashan wrote: > # checkrestart > Found 2 processes using old versions of upgraded files > (1 distinct program) > (1 distinct packages) > These processes do not seem to have an associated init script to > restart them: > dovecot-imapd: > 18981 /usr/lib/dovecot/imap > 1479

Why can't why have both GNOME 2 and GNOME 3?

2011-11-15 Thread Kevin Ross
Why weren't the new gnome packages named with a "3" in their name, to allow both gnome 2 and gnome 3 to exist in the repositories, and allow the user to choose which one they want? After all, we had apache and apache2, php4 and php5, mysql4 and mysql5, etc, etc. I'm not saying they should be

Re: UCARP Behind NAT

2011-11-15 Thread Volkan YAZICI
Why not asking it directly to the UCARP author (Frank DENIS) via email? (See http://ucarp.org for details.) On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 11:36:41 -0500, Chris Snyder writes: > Any ideas where a good place to ask for help on this topic is? Is > there a UCARP mailing list? I realize it might be a little spec